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  1. Harsher punishments, a safer society? (source: eur.nl/en/news/harsher-punishm)

    Empirical studies have found that increasing the probability of punishment has a greater effect on crime than the severity of punishment (source: sciencedirect.com/science/arti).

    #punishment #crime #justice #society #penalties #SpeedingFine #SpeedingTicket

  2. Harsher punishments, a safer society? (source: eur.nl/en/news/harsher-punishm)

    Empirical studies have found that increasing the probability of punishment has a greater effect on crime than the severity of punishment (source: sciencedirect.com/science/arti).

    #punishment #crime #justice #society #penalties #SpeedingFine #SpeedingTicket

  3. A quotation from Robert Ingersoll

    Infinite punishment is infinite cruelty, endless injustice, immortal meanness. To worship an eternal gaoler hardens, debases, and pollutes even the vilest soul. While there is one sad and breaking heart in the universe, no good being can be perfectly happy.

    Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator
    Lecture (1881-05-01) “The Great Infidels,” Booth’s Theater, New York

    More about this quote: wist.info/ingersoll-robert-gre…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #robertingersoll #robertgreeningersoll #afterlife #Christianity #cruelty #divinejudgment #divinejustice #divinepunishment #eternalpunishment #eternity #heaven #hell #injustice #punishment

  4. A quotation from Euripides

    JASON: The curse of children’s blood be on you!
       Avenging Justice, blast your being!
    MEDEA: What god will hear your imprecation,
       Oath-breaker, guest-deceiver, liar?
     
    [ἸΆΣΩΝ: ἀλλά σ᾽ Ἐρινὺς ὀλέσειε τέκνων
       φονία τε Δίκη.
    ΜΉΔΕΙΑ: τίς δὲ κλύει σοῦ θεὸς ἢ δαίμων,
       τοῦ ψευδόρκου καὶ ξειναπάτου;]

    Euripides (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist
    Medea [Μήδεια], l. 1389ff (431 BC) [tr. Vellacott (1963)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/euripides/85172/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #euripides #medea #argument #bickering #curse #deprecation #dishonesty #dishonor #divineanger #divineretribution #divinewrath #dvinepunishment #gods #hospitality #punishment #reputation #unworthiness #vengeance

  5. A quotation from Homer

    The recklessness of their ways destroyed them all.
     
    [Αὐτῶν γὰρ σφετέρῃσιν ἀτασθαλίῃσιν ὄλοντο.]

    Homer (fl. 7th-8th C. BC) Greek author
    The Odyssey [Ὀδύσσεια], Book 1, l. 7ff (1.7) (c. 700 BC) [tr. Fagles (1996)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/homer/46491/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #homer #odyssey #consequence #death #destruction #divinejudgment #folly #incaution #punishment #recklessness

  6. A quotation from Ingersoll

    The God of Hell should be held in loathing, contempt and scorn. A God who threatens eternal pain should be hated, not loved — cursed, not worshiped. A heaven presided over by such a God must be below the lowest hell. I want no part in any heaven in which the saved, the ransomed and redeemed will drown with shouts of joy the cries and sobs of hell — in which happiness will forget misery, where the tears of the lost only increase laughter and double bliss.

    Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator
    Lecture (1881-05-01) “The Great Infidels,” Booth’s Theater, New York

    More about this quote: wist.info/ingersoll-robert-gre…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #ingersoll #robertingersoll #robertgreeningersoll #christianity #afterlife #divinejustice #divinepunishment #divinewrath #eternity #God #heaven #hell #punishment #worship

  7. A quotation from Robert Green Ingersoll

       Is it necessary that Heaven should borrow its light from the glare of Hell?
       Infinite punishment is infinite cruelty, endless injustice, immortal meanness. To worship an eternal gaoler hardens, debases, and pollutes even the vilest soul. While there is one sad and breaking heart in the universe, no good being can be perfectly happy.

    Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator
    Lecture (1881-05-01) “The Great Infidels,” Booth’s Theater, New York

    More about this quote: wist.info/ingersoll-robert-gre…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #ingersoll #robertingersoll #robertgreeningersoll #afterlife #Christianity #cruelty #damnation #divinejudgment #divinejustice #divinepunishment #divinewrath #eternity #God #heaven #hell #punishment #universalism

  8. A quotation from Thomas More

    It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
     
    [Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery

  9. A quotation from Thomas More

    It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
     
    [Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery

  10. A quotation from Thomas More

    It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
     
    [Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery

  11. A quotation from Thomas More

    It seems to me a very unjust thing to take away a man’s life for a little money, for nothing in the world can be of equal value with a man’s life: and if it be said, “that it is not for the money that one suffers, but for his breaking the law,” I must say, extreme justice is an extreme injury: for we ought not to approve of those terrible laws that make the smallest offences capital, nor of that opinion of the Stoics that makes all crimes equal; as if there were no difference to be made between the killing a man and the taking his purse, between which, if we examine things impartially, there is no likeness nor proportion.
     
    [Omnino mihi uidetur inquam pater benignissime homini uitam eripi propter ereptam pecuniam prorsus iniquum esse. Siquidem cum humana uita ne omnibus quidem fortunae possessionibus paria fieri posse arbitror. Quod si laesam iustitiam, si leges uiolatas, hac rependi poena dicant, haud pecuniam; quid ni merito summum illud ius, summa uocetur iniuria! Nam neque legum probanda sunt tam Manliana imperia, ut sicubi in leuissimis parum obtemperetur, illico stringant gladium; neque tam Stoica scita, ut omnia peccata adeo existiment paria, uti nihil iudicent interesse, occidatne aliquis hominem, an nummum ei surripiat, inter quae (si quicquam aequitas ualet) nihil omnino simile aut affine.]

    Thomas More (1478-1535) English lawyer, social philosopher, statesman, humanist, Christian martyr
    Utopia, Book 1, ch. 1 “Discourses of Raphael Hythloday” (1518 ed.) [tr. Burnet/Morley (1901)]

    More about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/more-thomas/84005/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #thomasmore #utopia #capitalpunishment #crime #crimeandpunishment #deathpenalty #equity #execution #injustice #justice #law #lawbreaker #lawbreaking #legality #proportionality #punishment #stealing #thief #thievery

  12. A quotation from Robert Ingersoll

    Happiness is not a reward — it is a consequence. Suffering is not a punishment — it is a result.

    Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator
    Essay (1881-11) “The Christian Religion,” “Part 2” North American Review, Vol. 133, No. 300

    More about this quote: wist.info/ingersoll-robert-gre…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #robertingersoll #robertgreeningersoll #consequence #divinejudgment #divinejustice #happiness #karma #punishment #purpose #results #reward #unhappiness

  13. A quotation from Robert Ingersoll

    In this world we never will be perfectly civilized as long as a gallows casts its shadow upon the earth. As long as there is a penitentiary, within the walls of which a human being is immured, we are not a perfectly civilized people. We shall never be perfectly civilized until we do away with crime.
       And yet, according to this Christian religion, God is to have an eternal penitentiary; he is to be an everlasting jailer, an everlasting turnkey, a warden of an infinite dungeon, and he is going to keep prisoners there forever, not for the purpose of reforming them — because they are never going to get any better, only worse — but for the purpose of purposeless punishment. And for what? For something they failed to believe in this world. Born in ignorance, supported by poverty, caught in the snares of temptation, deformed by toil, stupefied by want — and yet held responsible through the countless ages of eternity! No man can think of a greater horror; no man can dream of a greater absurdity.

    Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator
    Lecture (1884-01-20), “Orthodoxy,” Tabor Opera House, Denver, Colorado

    More about this quote: wist.info/ingersoll-robert-gre…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #robertingersoll #robertgreeningersoll #afterlife #Christianity #civilization #crime #crimeandpunishment #criminal #damnation #divinejustice #divinepunishment #divinewrath #eternalpunishment #hell #jail #punishment

  14. A quotation from Terry Pratchett

    And Sergeant Colon once again knew a secret about bravery. It was arguably a kind of enhanced cowardice — the knowledge that while death may await you if you advance it will be a picnic compared to the certain living hell that awaits should you retreat.

    Terry Pratchett (1948-2015) English author
    Discworld No. 21, Jingo (1988)

    More about this quote: wist.info/pratchett-terry/8091…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #terrypratchett #discworld #alternatives #bravery #costbenefit #courage #cowardice #danger #death #informeddecision #punishment #retreat #riskanalysis #riskassessment

  15. A quotation from Euripides

    NURSE:                             But not long
       Can the extremes of grandeur ever last;
       And heavier are the curses which it brings
       When Fortune visits us in all her wrath.
     
    [ΤΡΟΦΌΣ:           Τὰ δ᾽ ὑπερβάλλοντ᾽
       οὐδένα καιρὸν δύναται θνητοῖς,
       μείζους δ᾽ ἄτας, ὅταν ὀργισθῇ
       δαίμων οἴκοις, ἀπέδωκεν.]

    Euripides (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist
    Medea [Μήδεια], l. 127ff (431 BC) [tr. Wodhull (1782)]

    More info about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/euripides/80709/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #euripides #medea #divineanger #divinejustice #divinepunishment #divinewill #divinewrath #fall #greatness #power #proportionality #punishment #wealth

  16. A quotation from Euripides

    NURSE:                             But not long
       Can the extremes of grandeur ever last;
       And heavier are the curses which it brings
       When Fortune visits us in all her wrath.
     
    [ΤΡΟΦΌΣ:           Τὰ δ᾽ ὑπερβάλλοντ᾽
       οὐδένα καιρὸν δύναται θνητοῖς,
       μείζους δ᾽ ἄτας, ὅταν ὀργισθῇ
       δαίμων οἴκοις, ἀπέδωκεν.]

    Euripides (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist
    Medea [Μήδεια], l. 127ff (431 BC) [tr. Wodhull (1782)]

    More info about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/euripides/80709/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #euripides #medea #divineanger #divinejustice #divinepunishment #divinewill #divinewrath #fall #greatness #power #proportionality #punishment #wealth

  17. A quotation from Euripides

    NURSE:                             But not long
       Can the extremes of grandeur ever last;
       And heavier are the curses which it brings
       When Fortune visits us in all her wrath.
     
    [ΤΡΟΦΌΣ:           Τὰ δ᾽ ὑπερβάλλοντ᾽
       οὐδένα καιρὸν δύναται θνητοῖς,
       μείζους δ᾽ ἄτας, ὅταν ὀργισθῇ
       δαίμων οἴκοις, ἀπέδωκεν.]

    Euripides (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist
    Medea [Μήδεια], l. 127ff (431 BC) [tr. Wodhull (1782)]

    More info about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/euripides/80709/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #euripides #medea #divineanger #divinejustice #divinepunishment #divinewill #divinewrath #fall #greatness #power #proportionality #punishment #wealth

  18. A quotation from Euripides

    NURSE:                             But not long
       Can the extremes of grandeur ever last;
       And heavier are the curses which it brings
       When Fortune visits us in all her wrath.
     
    [ΤΡΟΦΌΣ:           Τὰ δ᾽ ὑπερβάλλοντ᾽
       οὐδένα καιρὸν δύναται θνητοῖς,
       μείζους δ᾽ ἄτας, ὅταν ὀργισθῇ
       δαίμων οἴκοις, ἀπέδωκεν.]

    Euripides (485?-406? BC) Greek tragic dramatist
    Medea [Μήδεια], l. 127ff (431 BC) [tr. Wodhull (1782)]

    More info about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/euripides/80709/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #euripides #medea #divineanger #divinejustice #divinepunishment #divinewill #divinewrath #fall #greatness #power #proportionality #punishment #wealth

  19. Fuck the #psychiatric #system. if you don't comply with what they think is best they take away what's helping you as #punishment. It doesn't matter if something is already helping - if you don't do everything they recommend, they remove all the progress you've made and strand you out in the cold. They're not here to help, they're here to put us through the #system and spit us out when we refuse.

  20. A quotation from The Bible

    Do not judge, and you will not be judged; do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven. Give, and there will be gifts for you: a full measure, pressed down, shaken together, and overflowing, will be poured into your lap; because the standard you use will be the standard used for you.
     
    [Καὶ μὴ κρίνετε, καὶ οὐ μὴ κριθῆτε· καὶ μὴ καταδικάζετε, καὶ οὐ μὴ καταδικασθῆτε. ἀπολύετε, καὶ ἀπολυθήσεσθε· δίδοτε, καὶ δοθήσεται ὑμῖν· μέτρον καλὸν πεπιεσμένον σεσαλευμένον ὑπερεκχυννόμενον δώσουσιν εἰς τὸν κόλπον ὑμῶν· ᾧ γὰρ μέτρῳ μετρεῖτε ἀντιμετρηθήσεται ὑμῖν.]

    The Bible (The New Testament) (AD 1st - 2nd C) Christian sacred scripture
    Luke 6:37-38 (Jesus) [NJB (1985)]

    Sourcing, notes, alternate translations: wist.info/bible-nt/4397/

    #quote #quotes #quotation #bible #newtestament #jesus #condemnation #consistency #damnation #divinejudgment #forgiveness #giving #God #integrity #judgment #karma #mercy #punishment #rules #standards

  21. Government bureaucracies need occasional overhaul and rejuvenation.

    Trump’s motivation is more about #punishment and #retribution.

    His Cabinet choices point to that.

    At the Justice Department, he is prepared to fire the team that worked with special counsel Jack Smith on two indictments of the president-elect.

    More broadly, he looks to dismantle what he regards as an unresponsive and oppositional administrative state.

    Experts say what Trump, Musk and Ramaswamy are talking about
    — both in terms of money saved and workforce reductions
    — is unrealistic and that they will soon bump into political and economic realities that will leave them far short of what they claim.

    That doesn’t mean, however, that at the outset the president-elect should not be taken seriously about how #disruptive he will try to be in his efforts.

    Musk has claimed he can cut the budget by roughly $2 trillion,
    but analysts say that would require drastic (and unpopular) cuts in entitlements programs, defense or other vital services.

    #Elaine #Kamarck of the Brookings Institution, who oversaw Gore’s reinventing government initiative, offered counsel to the incoming administration in a piece on the Brookings website entitled,
    “Cut the government with a scalpel, not an axe.”

    That was the approach taken during the Clinton administration, which resulted in the elimination of 640,000 pages of internal agency rules
    and a reduction in the federal workforce of 426,000 employees.

    Kamarck, however, questioned whether the federal bureaucracy is truly bloated,
    as Ramaswamy and the Trump team claim.

    There are, she noted about 19,000 Border Patrol agents.

    How many of those would Trump cut while still making good on his promise to secure the border and deport millions?

    There are about 1,800 air traffic controllers, she said. Would Trump’s team cut that workforce significantly, causing potential flight cancellations and disruption?

    “It will take about a week and Congress will say, ‘Hey, you can’t do this,’” she said.
    
And how deeply would he try to cut the workforce at the Social Security Administration,
    at the risk of checks not being sent out promptly or other breakdowns in a program that he has otherwise vowed not to touch?
    
Kamarck offered other examples of where the Trump team could produce only symbolic victories.

    Trump has targeted the Department of Education for elimination.

    Kamarck said the department could be eliminated but two key programs likely would remain
    — the student loan program and Title 1,
    which adds to state and local governments for low-achieving students in areas of higher poverty.
    
The student loan program could be shifted to the Treasury Department
    and Title 1 to the Department of Health and Human Services, she said,
    which means a portion of its budget would be shifted rather than cut.

    Its workforce is the smallest of any Cabinet agency.

    Kamarck’s point is that after programs are shifted, the money saved might not be significant and the number of workers eliminated would be tiny.
    washingtonpost.com/politics/20

  22. Any time you see four matronly women sitting and standing in a close group, they're wearing informal house clothes, and they ALL have wooden hairbrushes in their hands, it's a sure bet that SOMEBODY is about to get the spanking of a lifetime:

    spankingblog.com/2005/10/16/fo

    #WoodenHairbrush #Hairbrush #HairbrushSpanking #Spanking #DomesticDiscipline #FemDom #OTK #OTKSpanking #Punishment #Vintage #VintagePorn #VintageErotica