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  1. @65_percenter How do we as end users (technical or not) make informed choices as to the security of a given browser?

    Is Helium more or less secure than unGoogled Chromium.

    Is unGoogled Chromium more or less secure than Chromium.

    Is Chromium more or less secure than Chrome.

    Is LibreWolf more or less secure than Firefox.

    How do SeaMonkey, Waterfox and Palemoon compare to what their parent project has become.

    All rhetorical I guess.

    #palemoon #ungoogledchromium #waterfox #seamonkey #firefox

  2. Some time ago Mozilla decided that tabs had to be on top.

    I still know where I want my tabs, and it still disturbs me that the tabs are in the wrong place.

    I have just spent a peaceful retro hour or so browsing with Palemoon. Tabs in the right spot and coloured icons to ease the stress on my ageing eyes.

    Just like SeaMonkey.

    Why do "UX experts" these days have to constantly keep reminding us older folk that we cannot have what we need?

    #ageing #seamonkey #palemoon #tabsunderneath #firefox

  3. Konform Browser 140.9.0-100 has been released!

    See release notes for details.

    codeberg.org/konform-browser/s

    Besides latest security fixes from #mozilla there is a bunch of updates from #konform #browser. To name a few:

    - Reorganized Security Settings with new global configuration for WASM, JIT, WebRTC, WebGPU, Geolocation, DOM Push, etc...

    - Security Settings also expose UI for enabling First-Party Isolation (same behavior as Tor Browser) and tweaking Enhanced Tracking Protection.

    - Bundled depropped Multi-Account Containers allows configuring per-container proxies and makes container tabs part of core browser experience without having to install telemetry-laden addons.

    - Profile Import now supports importing profiles from #firefox and compatible #browsers (#firefox_esr, #floorp, #ironfox, #librewolf, #midori, #palemoon, #waterfox, #zenbrowser)

    - Spoofing of Navigator.sendBeacon.

    - #privacy improvements and defense-in-depth

    - Various bugfixes and minor improvements

    Check it out and spread the word ☮️ 🕉️

  4. @inlovewithpda Using a mix of , , , , and , depending on the context.
    The one and only browser suitable for everything does not exist.

  5. Reemplazando Mozilla Firefox

    Como comenté anteriormente, estoy dejando de usar Firefox. Una condición del cambio es no usar un navegador basado en el motor de Google Chrome (el IE6 de éstos tiempos).

    Acá comento cuáles he ido probando, mi experiencia y con cuáles me quedé.

    picandocodigo.net/2026/reempla

    #FireDragon #Firefox #GNUIcecat #PaleMoon #SeaMonkey #Waterfox

  6. Donc oui aujourd'hui j'utilise des forks de #Firefox ( @librewolf et @zenbrowser ) je regarde du côté des projets qui se sont éloignés de Mozilla il y a un moment (@Waterfox et @palemoon )

    J'utilise de + en + #Epiphany #GnomeWeb (webkit).

    Et oui, c'est la PREMIÈRE FOIS EN 25 ANS de « vie informatique » que je lorgne vers une application privatrice ( @Vivaldi )

    #librewolf #zenbrowser #waterfox #palemoon #vivaldi

  7. Mmh..

    #Palemoon, un navigateur web que je croyais mouru depuis des années semble encore bien vivant !

    Long Live #Xul 😄

    M'en vais peut-être l'essayer tient !

    palemoon.org/

  8. Except us. Proudly hard-forked from #Firefox and the #Mozilla platform starting in 2014, and completely separated with finality since 2018 (not that we had any other feasible choice for what we wanted anyway) ;-)

    There's no going back.

    #UXP #Goanna #PaleMoon
  9. Welp, I don't know why does what it does, but is cooked. What are some non-Firefox, and non-Chromium based browsers which are reasonably usable? ? ? (yeah I'm giving Qt WebEngine a pass but what other choice do I have?)

    I wish devs could just do things that are cool, but they seem complacent and stubborn. In my ideal world Palemoon would align itself with FOSS and we'd all use it.

  10. Want to help improve an independent #web #browser's web compatibility AND get paid? We've just marked two high priority issues in the #UnifiedXULPlatform as eligible for bounty payment: https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/UXP/issues?labels=280

    #PaleMoon #UXP #HTML #JS #JavaScript #webbrowser
  11. Just in case people worry about the latest critical #CVE in #Firefox, which as listed in MFSA 2024-51 is CVE-2024-9680 (Use-after-free in Animation timeline):

    This vulnerability does not apply to #PaleMoon or the #UnifiedXULPlatform / #UXP.

    https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=31692

  12. Alllright, hello lunarians! We've moved instances again (4 hours has to be a world record for shortest stay in a #Mastodon before migrating :P), and hopefully this will be the final time we will do that. It would be a shame, because "Outer Heaven" does sorta fit more for a #browser named "Pale Moon"! ;)

    So, with a permanent #fediverse home, here's the short #introduction again done two instances ago on what #PaleMoon is all about:

    We are one of the first projects out there to have forked from #Firefox / #Mozilla. We've started as a humble rebuild aiming to bring an optimized Firefox, but we've soon evolved into a full-fledged fork (hard fork if you will) which kept what we believe were the good stuff that Mozilla axed and didn't deserve axing, like #XUL (which we believe is the most powerful language for extending a browser, up to its internals), #RSS, and <style scoped>, and kept out the ones that we believe were not good for our userbase (like Pocket, the LLM cruft, and if you're old enough, Australis!). We aim to keep evolving this mature platform in order to keep up with the latest feature additions to the web as we reasonably can (even though we believe they're becoming increasingly silly) while, if possible and necessary, adding up some of our own. All of that, as an independent effort supported primarily by nothing else but you: the users!

    If you want to explore more about our history, roadmap, and what you can do with this browser, then please give our website below a visit! 🌕

    https://www.palemoon.org/

    #introductions #UXP #UnifiedXULPlatform #web #openweb #webbrowser #browsers
  13. Hello everyone in the #fediverse! This is will be our official SNS after we've left Twitter last year in June due to it crossing too many lines for us to even continue using it as a channel for notifications. We will be doing that stuff here too: announce important updates such as new releases and scheduled downtimes for our services whenever they come. However, with this account not being directly managed by our project owner (it is instead managed by @job), this social media account could try to be a bit more flexible this time, such as boosting relevant #PaleMoon commentary and sometimes posting about less-known features we have that deserve attention. We will see how this goes! ;)

    As our first post, let me, the operator of this account write a short #introduction of what this #browser is: we are one of the first projects out there to have forked from #Firefox / #Mozilla. We've started as a humble rebuild aiming to bring an optimized Firefox, but we've soon evolved into a full-fledged fork (hard fork if you will) which kept what we believe were the good stuff that Mozilla axed and didn't deserve axing, like #XUL (which we believe is the most powerful language for extending a browser, up to its internals), #RSS, and <style scoped>, and kept out the ones that we believe were not good for our userbase (like Pocket, the LLM cruft, and if you're old enough, Australis!). We aim to keep evolving this mature platform in order to keep up with the latest feature additions to the web as we reasonably can (even though we believe they're becoming increasingly silly) while, if possible and necessary, adding up some of our own. All of that, as an independent effort supported primarily by nothing else but you: the users!

    I would love to explain more, but it would take too long to write here, so we suggest exploring our website if you want to learn more!

    🌕 https://www.palemoon.org/

    #introductions #UXP #UnifiedXULPlatform #web #openweb #webbrowser #browsers
  14. #PaleMoon will be requiring #AVX support in CPUs for its official binaries starting from version 33.3.0, which can be expected to release on the second Tuesday of this August.

    For those still stuck with #SSE2 you will either have to upgrade your processor to something more recent (AVX support has been commonly available for 10 years now) or switch to a community build that still builds support for SSE2.

    forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.p

    EDIT: Oh and I forgot to mention too that this is only for 64-bit. 32-bit Windows binaries will still support SSE2 (there are not 32-bit only processors that supports AVX as far as I know anyway, and even if there are it would most likely result in worse performance due to how 32-bit x86 and AVX work)

  15. Is #FIPS140 still relevant nowadays? #PaleMoon via #UXP is planning to remove #FIPS from their #NSS, and apparently the last validation #Mozilla did for FIPS 140 is in 2009...

    repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildPro

  16. @CenturyAvocado The UI / #XUL application frontendof #PaleMoon is based on #Firefox 28 (before #Australis)

    The #UXP platform/backend Pale Moon is built to work on is hard forked from the ESR 52 branch of the #Mozilla platform (which is erroneously referred to as the "Firefox platform" no thanks to Mozilla focusing so much on the browser to the detriment of building a sustainable XUL platform for other desktop app developers to use), and has since come a long way when it comes to #webcompat

    So "really ancient" can be pretty misleading on the surface.

    @Tourma

  17. The great thing about this arrangement is that the development of each project can be flexible. So the platform is shared with all and developed with the projects' needs in mind, and then the development of #PaleMoon itself is basically like one-man, and then you get community-owned projects like #Hyperbola's Ice* projects

    #Mozilla really made a mistake with making the platform synonymous with the #Firefox browser.

  18. This is how it's basically being done in the development of #PaleMoon's #UXP platform (browser development is a different story), minus the paid membership. Want something to be done in the platform? Then make a #PullRequest, and they'll most likely merge it!

    They really need the code

    #MissedQuoteBoost of mastodon.social/@blogdiva/1119

  19. A reminder that #CSSnesting is still a working draft in the #W3C under the #CSSWG. Please mind #webcompat when using this relatively new feature. IOW, don't make your #CSS break because you assumed everyone right now is using the latest version of #Chrome / #Chromium, #Firefox, #Safari, or #Edge. They might not even be using a mainstream #browser to visit your website (I am using #PaleMoon for example)... ​:seija_coffee:​

    RE:
    https://c.im/users/youronlyone/statuses/111884225846166170

  20. then implements modern features in Safari/Webkit really slowly

    That's good actually, because you #webdevs keep chasing the shiny new features #Chrome / #Chromium / #Blink is pushing to the #web like fucking fireflies, to the detriment of #webcompat with small #browsers like #PaleMoon, #Basilisk, and others based on #UXP / #Goanna / #XUL (like #SeaMonkey).

    As someone who used to work actively in Pale Moon's development, I am witness to a website that almost broke its #compatibility with my #browser but was stopped because the new feature it wanted to require was not yet available in an old #Safari / #WebKit version they're still supporting.

    So yes, from my point of view, #Apple does more to support the #openweb than #Mozilla and #Firefox (which always follows Chrome whenever it's not controversial) does, even if it didn't intend to. And to be clear, I am not even an Apple fanboy. The only Apple device I own is this ancient 1st generation of the iPad mini. I don't like their ecosystem.

    So it's not a bad take. It's the reality we independent desktop browser developers see in #webdev. ☕

    #MissedQuoteBoost of tenforward.social/@packetcat/1

  21. Finally got my #PaleMoon challenge #coin! I thought it's never gonna arrive lol (I didn't opt for the mail tracking which would cost extra)...

    There are still 89 coins left in stock so get one if you want to support one of the last independent #web #browsers out there!

    #kofi: ko-fi.com/palemoon

    #openweb #donation #opensource #freesoftware #webbrowser #browser #collectible

    #MissedQuoteBoost of tilde.zone/@job/11155389237474

  22. #PaleMoon needs your help more than ever! If you are regularly using this #web #browser like I do, please consider chipping in by donating or buying one of their physical coin collectibles (87 left as of writing) in #KoFi. Let's help keep one of the last truly independent #browsers out there afloat and keep the lingering spirit of the #openweb alive!

    forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.p

    #UXP #FinancialAid #MutualAid #MoneyRequest

  23. It's so funny how I can easily disprove the http://httpvshttps.com webpage by simply using #PaleMoon, since it has #HTTP/1.1 #pipelining enabled by default. ​:koakuma_giggle:​ Some might also be surprised by how a 1.9s result with cleartext HTTP/1.1 in private browsing mode is even possible when it usually takes like 14 seconds. Well that's because the #web #browser you used probably never supported or enabled (cough cough #Mozilla bug 264354, such a shame because #Firefox's HTTP pipelining implementation is actually one of the best of all browsers, thankfully it lives on in Pale Moon) pipelining by default!

    "Significantly Faster" my ass
    #HTTP2 simp ​:kyou:​

  24. It's so funny how I can easily disprove the http://httpvshttps.com webpage by simply using #PaleMoon, since it has #HTTP/1.1 #pipelining enabled by default. ​:koakuma_giggle:​ Some might also be surprised by how a 1.9s result with cleartext HTTP/1.1 in private browsing mode is even possible when it usually takes like 14 seconds. Well that's because the #web #browser you used probably never supported or enabled (cough cough #Mozilla bug 264354, such a shame because #Firefox's HTTP pipelining implementation is actually one of the best of all browsers, thankfully it lives on in Pale Moon) pipelining by default!

    "Significantly Faster" my ass
    #HTTP2 simp ​:kyou:​

  25. It's so funny how I can easily disprove the http://httpvshttps.com webpage by simply using #PaleMoon, since it has #HTTP/1.1 #pipelining enabled by default. ​:koakuma_giggle:​ Some might also be surprised by how a 1.9s result with cleartext HTTP/1.1 in private browsing mode is even possible when it usually takes like 14 seconds. Well that's because the #web #browser you used probably never supported or enabled (cough cough #Mozilla bug 264354, such a shame because #Firefox's HTTP pipelining implementation is actually one of the best of all browsers, thankfully it lives on in Pale Moon) pipelining by default!

    "Significantly Faster" my ass
    #HTTP2 simp ​:kyou:​

  26. It's so funny how I can easily disprove the http://httpvshttps.com webpage by simply using #PaleMoon, since it has #HTTP/1.1 #pipelining enabled by default. ​:koakuma_giggle:​ Some might also be surprised by how a 1.9s result with cleartext HTTP/1.1 in private browsing mode is even possible when it usually takes like 14 seconds. Well that's because the #web #browser you used probably never supported or enabled (cough cough #Mozilla bug 264354, such a shame because #Firefox's HTTP pipelining implementation is actually one of the best of all browsers, thankfully it lives on in Pale Moon) pipelining by default!

    "Significantly Faster" my ass
    #HTTP2 simp ​:kyou:​

  27. It's so funny how I can easily disprove the http://httpvshttps.com webpage by simply using #PaleMoon, since it has #HTTP/1.1 #pipelining enabled by default. ​:koakuma_giggle:​ Some might also be surprised by how a 1.9s result with cleartext HTTP/1.1 in private browsing mode is even possible when it usually takes like 14 seconds. Well that's because the #web #browser you used probably never supported or enabled (cough cough #Mozilla bug 264354, such a shame because #Firefox's HTTP pipelining implementation is actually one of the best of all browsers, thankfully it lives on in Pale Moon) pipelining by default!

    "Significantly Faster" my ass
    #HTTP2 simp ​:kyou:​

  28. Behold, Nazrin, a successor to the OverbiteFF extension for legacy #Mozilla like #Firefox 38-56, #PaleMoon, and #SeaMonkey!

    Differences from
    #Overbite:
    - Video and audio can now be played inline!
    - Recognize
    < item type from Gopher+
    - Fix compatibility for later SeaMonkey 2.53 versions
    - Formal compatibility with Pale Moon 28 and above (no longer piggybacking on Firefox's UUID)

    #Floodgap #XUL

    http://geidontei.chaotic.ninja/usr/mima/nazrin/

    RE:
    https://makai.chaotic.ninja/notes/9jvcvprl3q

  29. @puffinux
    @gecko

    A bit late to the party but... my frequently used apps:

    #Firefox #PaleMoon (browser)
    #Vim + #rst + #rst2pdf #LyX (documents)
    #Thunar #MidnightCommander (file manager)
    #Geeqie (image viewer)
    #abcde (CD ripper)
    #Sakura (terminal)
    #Vim (text)
    #ClawsMail #mutt (email)
    #Xfce (desktop)
    #Xpdf (PDF viewer)
    #scrot (screenshots)
    #screen (terminal multiplexer)
    #GIMP #RawTherapee #Inkscape (image editing)
    #MPV #VLC (media viewer)
    #Qmmp (audio)
    #QuiteRSS (RSS)

    #FOSS #FLOSS