#isolategab — Public Fediverse posts

@rwg I’ll work to quantify that - it def existed. I was a leader in #isolategab efforts… but almost all were “federate gab regardless” as a pure libertarian stance & suspect those are now still “federate Threads regardless” (a camp as you read in my blog I’m not in )…but in both cases they were a fringe, if a loud one sometimes.

#isolategab - for those choosing “what is gab?” Here is your answer and a good summary of how things started: https://www.vice.com/en/article/mb8y3x/the-nazi-free-alternative-to-twitter-is-now-home-to-the-biggest-far-right-social-network

@tchambers I very staunchly opposed #IsolateGab and would be interested in hearing your take.

Am seeing some (to my memory) mistaken history on the Fediverse organizing that I was senior in, that successfully fought to #isolategab back in the day. Was thinking about writing up a detailed, sourced account of that movement as I was very much on those front lines advocating to block. I’d also list differences between then and now with Meta in my view. What do you think?

@probgoblin @timmy @nexusofprivacy

I think more like this:

The fight started May 2019 when gab announced the fork. But hadn't done anything yet.

July 4th, 2019 is when they launched with federation. *After* that the mass #IsolateGab effort kicked in fast.

Sometime around June *2020* ... gab dropped federation, but we didn't know.

And we learned we won that Dec 2020.

So it took a while.

@nexusofprivacy Second suggestion for an addition: I was very involved in the #IsolateGab movement.

I'd add the note that one of the reasons for the full unity there is that it *wasn't* a preemptive strike at defederating.

It was NOT doing a first strike that helped us unify around a full fediverse-wide fediblock once they showed their intent. And even then, prior to the full fediblock, moderation tools helped off one by one cases well protecting our people.

@jdp23 @edendestroyer @fancysandwiches

Yes: I was very involved in the #IsolateGab movement back in the day.
But for Gab itself that wasn't a feiblock first strike on the Fediverse side. Gab made clear their policies on hate and moderation they would use on the Fedi.

And if Meta did the same in how they join the Fediverse - that is what we are working to verify if they do and go from there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify

@lrhodes Technically there is a brand that predates all the ones mentioned but apparently a lot of people don't know about it because it was rightfully yeeted from the fedi: Pawoo.

Oh and addendum: don't just block Facebook, but also everyone who doesn't block Facebook.
Remember #isolategab ? Same thing.

@Are0h See the #IsolateGab history with the Fediverse.

@bewildergeist the #mastoadmins have good muscle memory on how to quickly block those instances at scale. See the #isolategab effort and many since.

@schock yes and see the #isolategab past campaign for lessons on what worked…

@handle I guess its good we all have a different view of how situations went down to keep us all on our feet (:

I was all for the #IsolateGab movement. But... I saw a lot of people here who had varying opinions on how to tackle that situation get pretty thoroughly bulldozed by the prevailing tactic...

@elipariser More reporting on this written before the #IsolateGab effort won the day.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/mb8y3x/the-nazi-free-alternative-to-twitter-is-now-home-to-the-biggest-far-right-social-network

@elipariser Not a particular instance, but groups of instances --> See the past #IsolateGab effort... its on hold now until the next threat emerges but it successfully beat back Gab trying to join the Fediverse and drove it off...It also did a preemptive strike on TruthSocial for same.

https://todon.nl/web/@isolategab/105216274857838767

@emc2 Actualy see the #IsolateGab efforts to see that already having occurred to the Fediverse and them pushing back.

You did that. #IsolateGab

@jessica #isolategab but with kpop stands

This has always been our case. Platforms like #gab
are like "roach motels" that alt-right voices go into and then over time fracture from within. They have every right to exist, but when isolated away from communities who don't welcome them, they wither...

#isolateGab #IsolateTrump

https://politicalwire.com/2022/01/20/pro-trump-audiences-stall-on-alternative-social-networks/

@Linux_in_a_Bit Not yet, but it still is good news. They were forced to honor the AGPLv3 license.... #IsolateGab