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  1. @serapath @strypey well #Holochain has had far-right personalities leading its communities, and #Keet actively includes them, so there's that. Holochain has repeatedly championed White Nationalist hate actors and marketed itself to the far-right through its founding members and ecosystem growth manager.

    IMO (as someone who collaborated with them for a long time and knows the architecture deeply) the DHT scenario and Holochain's forkable network architecture makes this a much more dangerous combination. No trust or consent is needed to replicate peer data to new group members, and data and code can be forked off to new groups any time. At least in Keet replication is up to the individual and not the volk.

  2. @serapath @strypey well #Holochain has had far-right personalities leading its communities, and #Keet actively includes them, so there's that. Holochain has repeatedly championed White Nationalist hate actors and marketed itself to the far-right through its founding members and ecosystem growth manager.

    IMO (as someone who collaborated with them for a long time and knows the architecture deeply) the DHT scenario and Holochain's forkable network architecture makes this a much more dangerous combination. No trust or consent is needed to replicate peer data to new group members, and data and code can be forked off to new groups any time. At least in Keet replication is up to the individual and not the volk.

  3. @serapath @strypey well #Holochain has had far-right personalities leading its communities, and #Keet actively includes them, so there's that. Holochain has repeatedly championed White Nationalist hate actors and marketed itself to the far-right through its founding members and ecosystem growth manager.

    IMO (as someone who collaborated with them for a long time and knows the architecture deeply) the DHT scenario and Holochain's forkable network architecture makes this a much more dangerous combination. No trust or consent is needed to replicate peer data to new group members, and data and code can be forked off to new groups any time. At least in Keet replication is up to the individual and not the volk.

  4. @serapath @strypey well #Holochain has had far-right personalities leading its communities, and #Keet actively includes them, so there's that. Holochain has repeatedly championed White Nationalist hate actors and marketed itself to the far-right through its founding members and ecosystem growth manager.

    IMO (as someone who collaborated with them for a long time and knows the architecture deeply) the DHT scenario and Holochain's forkable network architecture makes this a much more dangerous combination. No trust or consent is needed to replicate peer data to new group members, and data and code can be forked off to new groups any time. At least in Keet replication is up to the individual and not the volk.

  5. To anybody in the DAT ecosystem interested in confronting these cultural problems, please feel free to reach out. Though my capacity is low, I have extensive experience understanding these toxic ideologies and their effects on marginalised communities after being a long-term contributor to #Holochain (effectively a #FarRight psyop designed to recruit progressive talent toward building software for hate actors and White Nationalist networks).

    That's all for now. I may reflect more when I return from an impending whitewater rafting holiday.

  6. To anybody in the DAT ecosystem interested in confronting these cultural problems, please feel free to reach out. Though my capacity is low, I have extensive experience understanding these toxic ideologies and their effects on marginalised communities after being a long-term contributor to #Holochain (effectively a #FarRight psyop designed to recruit progressive talent toward building software for hate actors and White Nationalist networks).

    That's all for now. I may reflect more when I return from an impending whitewater rafting holiday.

  7. To anybody in the DAT ecosystem interested in confronting these cultural problems, please feel free to reach out. Though my capacity is low, I have extensive experience understanding these toxic ideologies and their effects on marginalised communities after being a long-term contributor to #Holochain (effectively a #FarRight psyop designed to recruit progressive talent toward building software for hate actors and White Nationalist networks).

    That's all for now. I may reflect more when I return from an impending whitewater rafting holiday.

  8. To anybody in the DAT ecosystem interested in confronting these cultural problems, please feel free to reach out. Though my capacity is low, I have extensive experience understanding these toxic ideologies and their effects on marginalised communities after being a long-term contributor to #Holochain (effectively a #FarRight psyop designed to recruit progressive talent toward building software for hate actors and White Nationalist networks).

    That's all for now. I may reflect more when I return from an impending whitewater rafting holiday.

  9. @iwein oh thanks, I appreciate that!

    There is not much help to be had anymore, really- this is a reflective piece on traumatic experiences / revelations from years ago. Nobody in the movement wants to acknowledge its faults or the damage done- I've given up on that. But I do have a lot of research on accelerationist philosophies and #Holochain's origins as a far-right psyop designed to recruit progressive talent for the creation of 'uncancelable' hate networks... so, um, if you feel inclined to specify a more specific interest I might be able to find some interesting links.

    In the meantime, I think this is incredibly worthwhile historical background for understanding #RedBrownAlliances - which, I will assert, #DWeb is.

    breakingpatterns.noblogs.org/p

  10. @iwein oh thanks, I appreciate that!

    There is not much help to be had anymore, really- this is a reflective piece on traumatic experiences / revelations from years ago. Nobody in the movement wants to acknowledge its faults or the damage done- I've given up on that. But I do have a lot of research on accelerationist philosophies and #Holochain's origins as a far-right psyop designed to recruit progressive talent for the creation of 'uncancelable' hate networks... so, um, if you feel inclined to specify a more specific interest I might be able to find some interesting links.

    In the meantime, I think this is incredibly worthwhile historical background for understanding #RedBrownAlliances - which, I will assert, #DWeb is.

    breakingpatterns.noblogs.org/p

  11. @iwein oh thanks, I appreciate that!

    There is not much help to be had anymore, really- this is a reflective piece on traumatic experiences / revelations from years ago. Nobody in the movement wants to acknowledge its faults or the damage done- I've given up on that. But I do have a lot of research on accelerationist philosophies and #Holochain's origins as a far-right psyop designed to recruit progressive talent for the creation of 'uncancelable' hate networks... so, um, if you feel inclined to specify a more specific interest I might be able to find some interesting links.

    In the meantime, I think this is incredibly worthwhile historical background for understanding #RedBrownAlliances - which, I will assert, #DWeb is.

    breakingpatterns.noblogs.org/p

  12. @jwcph @pluralistic @courtcan "yes, and" on the title of the linked article... you should also know that one of #Holochain's founders authored a "satirical" paper on crypto-economically incentivised #GangStalking (HATEcoin), then built tech fit for the purpose (AutonomousOrganization) and marketed it to far-right communities.
    It may be largely a paranoid delusion, but there are people out there trying to make it real.

  13. @jwcph @pluralistic @courtcan "yes, and" on the title of the linked article... you should also know that one of #Holochain's founders authored a "satirical" paper on crypto-economically incentivised #GangStalking (HATEcoin), then built tech fit for the purpose (AutonomousOrganization) and marketed it to far-right communities.
    It may be largely a paranoid delusion, but there are people out there trying to make it real.

  14. @jwcph @pluralistic @courtcan "yes, and" on the title of the linked article... you should also know that one of #Holochain's founders authored a "satirical" paper on crypto-economically incentivised #GangStalking (HATEcoin), then built tech fit for the purpose (AutonomousOrganization) and marketed it to far-right communities.
    It may be largely a paranoid delusion, but there are people out there trying to make it real.

  15. @jwcph @pluralistic @courtcan "yes, and" on the title of the linked article... you should also know that one of #Holochain's founders authored a "satirical" paper on crypto-economically incentivised #GangStalking (HATEcoin), then built tech fit for the purpose (AutonomousOrganization) and marketed it to far-right communities.
    It may be largely a paranoid delusion, but there are people out there trying to make it real.

  16. Oh who's this, #Holochain fans? Just #HOLO and #Coasys' former community growth manager and Art Brock's personal protégé now speaking as vice-president of Curt Doolittle's #FarRight Natural Law Institute. Quite the trajectory.

    youtu.be/n9L11YE2s3Y

    This is where your $HOT investments have been spent- building "uncancelable" comms infrastructure for "Total War" and the new #Terrorgram.

    "Veritas et Violentium", as the fascists say.

  17. Oh who's this, #Holochain fans? Just #HOLO and #Coasys' former community growth manager and Art Brock's personal protégé now speaking as vice-president of Curt Doolittle's #FarRight Natural Law Institute. Quite the trajectory.

    youtu.be/n9L11YE2s3Y

    This is where your $HOT investments have been spent- building "uncancelable" comms infrastructure for "Total War" and the new #Terrorgram.

    "Veritas et Violentium", as the fascists say.

  18. Oh who's this, #Holochain fans? Just #HOLO and #Coasys' former community growth manager and Art Brock's personal protégé now speaking as vice-president of Curt Doolittle's #FarRight Natural Law Institute. Quite the trajectory.

    youtu.be/n9L11YE2s3Y

    This is where your $HOT investments have been spent- building "uncancelable" comms infrastructure for "Total War" and the new #Terrorgram.

    "Veritas et Violentium", as the fascists say.

  19. Hm.

    Good: ​'s licence has explicit clauses that constrain its F(?, see below)OSS nature on behalf of the software user so that they keep control over their keys and data.

    Bad: The Holochain Foundation holds patents.

    😕

  20. Hm.

    Good: #Holochain​'s licence has explicit clauses that constrain its F(?, see below)OSS nature on behalf of the software user so that they keep control over their keys and data.

    Bad: The Holochain Foundation holds patents.

    😕

  21. @dweb @internetarchive On June 16th 2023 I reported issues of abuse by #Holochain's (then) community manager to the IA team, including violations of my trust and safety in conspiring with an anti-trans stochastic terrorist (also a camp attendee & #HOLO employee) to manipulate my behaviour. Their ethics team's response was to hear me out, then do nothing but watch while #Scuttlebutt community members monitored the situation.

  22. I chatted with Adam Bumpus, Co-Founder at IOEN Tech, about Carbon Economies and Regenerative Investing. Check out the full chat: youtu.be/nLwY3dtGcrM

  23. 📢 The team and community will have the biggest presence yet at ETHDenver 2024. If you can type you can ! Devs, designers, architects, and Web3 leaders–come join a team and build for the Holochain sponsored bounty or work on another community project.

    🎉 Plus, we’ll have app demos, a booth, and an exciting workshop. 👀

    Get your free tickets ➡️ ethdenver.com/

    Chat with the team and community in our dedicated event discord channel: discord.com/channels/919686143!

  24. Learn more about Yavuz Selim Kıyak's perspective on Holochain at
    bit.ly/the-joy-of-missing-out-

  25. @Zee @anaulin How does what you're building for Convene compare to what the Holochain folks are working on?

    #SolidarityEconomy
    #Convene #Holochain

  26. Anyone heard of #Substratum?
    substratum.net/

    Seems like a vaguely similar architecture to #Holochain, but the elevator pitch is censorship-resistance, rather than resilient web hosting.

  27. Anyone heard of #Substratum?
    substratum.net/

    Seems like a vaguely similar architecture to #Holochain, but the elevator pitch is censorship-resistance, rather than resilient web hosting.