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The Plot Against America
They're not hiding it anymore.
A network of billionaires is openly calling for the end of democracy—in their own words, in public, on the record.
https://theplotagainstamerica.com/
#US #USA #USPol #USpolitics #America #Democracy #Oligarchy #Thiel #Yarvin #Prince #Bannon #Miller #Trump #Musk #Vance #Roberts #Vought #Ellison #Karp #Sacks #Andreessen #Luckey #Lonsdale #Altman #Srinivasan #Zuckerberg #Kratsios
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The Plot Against America
They're not hiding it anymore.
A network of billionaires is openly calling for the end of democracy—in their own words, in public, on the record.
https://theplotagainstamerica.com/
#US #USA #USPol #USpolitics #America #Democracy #Oligarchy #Thiel #Yarvin #Prince #Bannon #Miller #Trump #Musk #Vance #Roberts #Vought #Ellison #Karp #Sacks #Andreessen #Luckey #Lonsdale #Altman #Srinivasan #Zuckerberg #Kratsios
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The Plot Against America
They're not hiding it anymore.
A network of billionaires is openly calling for the end of democracy—in their own words, in public, on the record.
https://theplotagainstamerica.com/
#US #USA #USPol #USpolitics #America #Democracy #Oligarchy #Thiel #Yarvin #Prince #Bannon #Miller #Trump #Musk #Vance #Roberts #Vought #Ellison #Karp #Sacks #Andreessen #Luckey #Lonsdale #Altman #Srinivasan #Zuckerberg #Kratsios
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[EN 👇] Wer am Sonntagmorgen etwas über eine der Stimmen in den Köpfen von #Trump, #Musk & Co hören möchte: #DLF hat eine Sendung zu #CurtisYarvin & smarter #Tyrannei https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/curtis-yarvin-demokratie-jd-vance-peter-thiel-trump-usa-100.html
Von #AvaKofmanGerman #radio had an interesting #essay by Ava #Kofman on #Yarvin & his ideas of an ideal #society
He became one of the most influential voices in the heads of #Vance, Trump & Co
Could not find the eng. original on the fly🫣 but Ava's work is worth checking out -
[EN 👇] Wer am Sonntagmorgen etwas über eine der Stimmen in den Köpfen von #Trump, #Musk & Co hören möchte: #DLF hat eine Sendung zu #CurtisYarvin & smarter #Tyrannei https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/curtis-yarvin-demokratie-jd-vance-peter-thiel-trump-usa-100.html
Von #AvaKofmanGerman #radio had an interesting #essay by Ava #Kofman on #Yarvin & his ideas of an ideal #society
He became one of the most influential voices in the heads of #Vance, Trump & Co
Could not find the eng. original on the fly🫣 but Ava's work is worth checking out -
@pearcherry.bsky.social
If a communist were elected … then it would be the will of the people.
The WH has power to take over a state’s elections?
Yes…we are walking into fascism.
And don’t forget, the Trumps are not allowed to run charities out of NY. They know their game.
https://bsky.app/profile/pearcherry.bsky.social/post/3lvvz5drzzl2j
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@pearcherry.bsky.social
If a communist were elected … then it would be the will of the people.
The WH has power to take over a state’s elections?
Yes…we are walking into fascism.
And don’t forget, the Trumps are not allowed to run charities out of NY. They know their game.
https://bsky.app/profile/pearcherry.bsky.social/post/3lvvz5drzzl2j
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In February, #Marc #Andreessen described the #Chatham #House group chats to the podcaster #Lex #Fridman as “the equivalent of [Soviet era] #samizdat”
“The combination of encryption and disappearing messages really unleashed it,” he said. The chats, he wrote recently, helped produce our national “vibe shift.”
They have rarely been discussed in public, though you can catch the occasional mention in, for instance, a podcast debate between #Mark #Cuban and the Republican entrepreneur #Vivek #Ramaswamy, which started in a chat.But they are made visible through a group consensus on social media.
Their effects have ranged from the mainstreaming of the monarchist pundit #Curtis #Yarvin to a particularly focused and developed dislike of the former Washington Post writer #Taylor #Lorenz.They succeeded at avoiding leaks (until, to a modest extent, this article) in part because of Signal’s and WhatsApp’s #disappearing #message features,
and in part because the groups had formed out of a mix of fear and disdain for journalists they believed were “out to get us,” as one member put it.
“People during 2020 felt that there was a monoculture on social media, and if they didn’t agree with something, group chats became a safe space to debate that, share that, build consensus, feel that you’re not alone,”
said #Erik #Torenberg, an entrepreneur who was the first employee of the tech community hub Product Hunt.
As #Krishnan was setting up a set of tech group WhatsApp chats at a16z, #Torenberg independently founded a group of tech chats on WhatsApp and some more political Signal chats.“They’re having all the private conversations because they weren’t allowed to have the public conversations,” Andreessen told Torenberg on a recent podcast,
after claiming in the name of secrecy that he’d never heard of such groups.
“If it wasn’t for the censorship all of these conversations would have happened in public, which would have been much better.”
Their creations took off:
“It might not seem like it, because of all the sh*t that people still post on X, but the internet has fragmented,”
the Substack author #Noah #Smith wrote after my inquiries for this story spilled into public Saturday.
“Group chats are now where everything important and interesting happens.”https://www.semafor.com/article/04/27/2025/the-group-chats-that-changed-america
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In February, #Marc #Andreessen described the #Chatham #House group chats to the podcaster #Lex #Fridman as “the equivalent of [Soviet era] #samizdat”
“The combination of encryption and disappearing messages really unleashed it,” he said. The chats, he wrote recently, helped produce our national “vibe shift.”
They have rarely been discussed in public, though you can catch the occasional mention in, for instance, a podcast debate between #Mark #Cuban and the Republican entrepreneur #Vivek #Ramaswamy, which started in a chat.But they are made visible through a group consensus on social media.
Their effects have ranged from the mainstreaming of the monarchist pundit #Curtis #Yarvin to a particularly focused and developed dislike of the former Washington Post writer #Taylor #Lorenz.They succeeded at avoiding leaks (until, to a modest extent, this article) in part because of Signal’s and WhatsApp’s #disappearing #message features,
and in part because the groups had formed out of a mix of fear and disdain for journalists they believed were “out to get us,” as one member put it.
“People during 2020 felt that there was a monoculture on social media, and if they didn’t agree with something, group chats became a safe space to debate that, share that, build consensus, feel that you’re not alone,”
said #Erik #Torenberg, an entrepreneur who was the first employee of the tech community hub Product Hunt.
As #Krishnan was setting up a set of tech group WhatsApp chats at a16z, #Torenberg independently founded a group of tech chats on WhatsApp and some more political Signal chats.“They’re having all the private conversations because they weren’t allowed to have the public conversations,” Andreessen told Torenberg on a recent podcast,
after claiming in the name of secrecy that he’d never heard of such groups.
“If it wasn’t for the censorship all of these conversations would have happened in public, which would have been much better.”
Their creations took off:
“It might not seem like it, because of all the sh*t that people still post on X, but the internet has fragmented,”
the Substack author #Noah #Smith wrote after my inquiries for this story spilled into public Saturday.
“Group chats are now where everything important and interesting happens.”https://www.semafor.com/article/04/27/2025/the-group-chats-that-changed-america
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Even at this late stage, the combination of such an extreme lack of self-awareness and so much self-pity all wrapped up in a single person is just astonishing.
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Yarvin seems shocked that Musk (with zero government experience except for a reliance on government contracts) is doing such a poor job. He also seems chagrined at Trump's specific actions, like tariffs, which are throwing markets into chaos. In political terms, the whole thing is a total disaster. By early 2025, millions of Americans are marching in streets and even Republican voters are showing up at town halls to express seething anger.
Yarvin seems to have come to a stark realization: If Musk/Trump fail to destroy the democratic system, extreme anti-government pseudo-intellectuals may face a bleak future. He urgently warns them against half-assing the revolution – and reveals his own fear of what might happen when the pendulum swings in the other direction:
But in the end, it is the road toward winding up in the foam yourself—probably with me, for all my troubles. (This is what usually happens to right-wing intellectuals, actually.)
https://www.thenerdreich.com/curtis-yarvin-fears-his-authoritarian-fantasy-is-flopping/
#Yarvin #CurtisYarvin #NRx #Neoreaction #monarchy #reactionary #fascism #Musk #Trump #USPol
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Even at this late stage, the combination of such an extreme lack of self-awareness and so much self-pity all wrapped up in a single person is just astonishing.
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Yarvin seems shocked that Musk (with zero government experience except for a reliance on government contracts) is doing such a poor job. He also seems chagrined at Trump's specific actions, like tariffs, which are throwing markets into chaos. In political terms, the whole thing is a total disaster. By early 2025, millions of Americans are marching in streets and even Republican voters are showing up at town halls to express seething anger.
Yarvin seems to have come to a stark realization: If Musk/Trump fail to destroy the democratic system, extreme anti-government pseudo-intellectuals may face a bleak future. He urgently warns them against half-assing the revolution – and reveals his own fear of what might happen when the pendulum swings in the other direction:
But in the end, it is the road toward winding up in the foam yourself—probably with me, for all my troubles. (This is what usually happens to right-wing intellectuals, actually.)
https://www.thenerdreich.com/curtis-yarvin-fears-his-authoritarian-fantasy-is-flopping/
#Yarvin #CurtisYarvin #NRx #Neoreaction #monarchy #reactionary #fascism #Musk #Trump #USPol
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Rechter Blogger Curtis Yarvin: Der dunkle Königsmacher
"Seit mehr als zehn Jahren hat Yarvin Schritt für Schritt den Plan für #Gleichschaltung und #Machtübernahme aufgezeichnet. Und man hat ihn aufmerksam gelesen. Peter #Thiel [ #Palantir] gehört zu seinen Förderern, Elon #Musk ist mit seiner Arbeit wohl vertraut...Schon vor 13 Jahren schrieb #Yarvin von einer Strategie namens #RAGE, Akronym für „Retire All Government Employees“ – schickt alle..."
#Machtmissbrauch
https://taz.de/Rechter-Blogger-Curtis-Yarvin/!6072620/ -
A good analysis of the jump in right-wing tech bro support for Trump and the fault lines that exist between the neoreactionary and MAGA movements.
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But despite its impact on the current Trump regime, neoreactionary politics is not MAGA politics, as the tagline to James Pogue’s 2022 Vanity Fair article noted. The key reason is that neoreaction is not populist. The movement to Make America Great Again, Trump’s political base, is a classic example of right-wing populism, i.e., a movement that combines calls to intensify oppression with twisted forms of anti-elitism. MAGA politics is about defending privilege and attacking those who are seen as threatening it from below, but it also feeds on people’s sense of disempowerment, of being beaten down by a few people on top, a belief that those in power have betrayed “we the people” and must be stripped of their positions.
Neoreactionaries, by contrast, believe firmly that elites should rule and “the people” (Nick Land’s “howling irrational mob”) should not. Since Trump first entered the 2016 presidential race, MAGA aimed to mobilize a mass movement to overturn the political establishment, liberal and conservative alike. This initiative included not just electoral campaigns but also broad-based organizing and physical protests that culminated in the January 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol in hopes of overturning the 2020 election results by force. But neoreactionaries dismiss the whole idea of a popular uprising. As Yarvin wrote in June 2024, “Charlottesville [the 2017 Unite the Right rally] and January 6 were the last lame breaths of what John Adams called ‘mobocracy’ in America.” What Yarvin envisioned wasn’t a popular uprising, but rather to “hack” the system in order to break it.
https://threewayfight.org/the-doge-and-the-neoreactionaries/
#fascism #Trump #MAGA #USPol #Musk #Thiel #Yarvin #NRx #neoreactionary #elitism #populism
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A good analysis of the jump in right-wing tech bro support for Trump and the fault lines that exist between the neoreactionary and MAGA movements.
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But despite its impact on the current Trump regime, neoreactionary politics is not MAGA politics, as the tagline to James Pogue’s 2022 Vanity Fair article noted. The key reason is that neoreaction is not populist. The movement to Make America Great Again, Trump’s political base, is a classic example of right-wing populism, i.e., a movement that combines calls to intensify oppression with twisted forms of anti-elitism. MAGA politics is about defending privilege and attacking those who are seen as threatening it from below, but it also feeds on people’s sense of disempowerment, of being beaten down by a few people on top, a belief that those in power have betrayed “we the people” and must be stripped of their positions.
Neoreactionaries, by contrast, believe firmly that elites should rule and “the people” (Nick Land’s “howling irrational mob”) should not. Since Trump first entered the 2016 presidential race, MAGA aimed to mobilize a mass movement to overturn the political establishment, liberal and conservative alike. This initiative included not just electoral campaigns but also broad-based organizing and physical protests that culminated in the January 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol in hopes of overturning the 2020 election results by force. But neoreactionaries dismiss the whole idea of a popular uprising. As Yarvin wrote in June 2024, “Charlottesville [the 2017 Unite the Right rally] and January 6 were the last lame breaths of what John Adams called ‘mobocracy’ in America.” What Yarvin envisioned wasn’t a popular uprising, but rather to “hack” the system in order to break it.
https://threewayfight.org/the-doge-and-the-neoreactionaries/
#fascism #Trump #MAGA #USPol #Musk #Thiel #Yarvin #NRx #neoreactionary #elitism #populism
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Where J.D. Vance Gets His Weird, Terrifying Techno-Authoritarian Ideas:
In 2008, a software developer in San Francisco named #Curtis #Yarvin, writing under a pseudonym,
proposed a horrific solution for people he deemed
“not productive”:
“convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.”Yarvin, a self-described reactionary and extremist who was 35 years old at the time,
clarified that he was “just kidding.”
But then he continued,
“The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass.
However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to #genocide.”He then concluded that the
“best humane alternative to genocide” is to “virtualize” these people:
Imprison them in “permanent solitary confinement”
where, to avoid making them insane, they would be connected to an “immersive virtual-reality interface”
so they could “experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.”Yarvin’s disturbing manifestos have earned him influential followers,
chief among them: tech billionaire #Peter #Thiel
and his onetime Silicon Valley protégé Senator J.D. #Vance,
whom the Republican Party just nominated to be Donald #Trump’s vice president.
🔥If Trump wins the election, there is little doubt that Vance will bring Yarvin’s twisted #techno-#authoritarianism to the White House,
and one can imagine—with horror
—what a receptive would-be autocrat like Trump might do with those ideas.Trump’s first campaign was undoubtedly a watershed moment for authoritarianism in American politics,
but some thinkers on the right had been laying the groundwork for years,
hoping for someone to mainstream their ideas.
Yarvin was one of them.
Way back in 2012, in a speech on
“How to Reboot the US Government,” he said,
💥“If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their #dictator phobia.”
He had also written favorably of #slavery and #white #nationalists in the late 2000s (though he has stated that he is not a white nationalist himself).Both Thiel and Vance are friends of Yarvin.
In "The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power", reporter Max Chafkin describes Yarvin as
the “house political philosopher” of the “#Thielverse,”
a term for the people in Thiel’s orbit.
In 2013, Thiel invested in #Tlön, a software startup co-founded by Yarvin.
In 2016, Yarvin attended Thiel’s election night party in San Francisco where, according to Chafkin, champagne flowed once it became clear that Thiel’s investment in Donald Trump would pay off.
Since entering politics, Vance has publicly praised
—and parroted
—Yarvin’s ideas.
That was worrying enough when Vance was only a senator.
Now that he could soon be a heartbeat away from the presidency, his close ties to Yarvin are more alarming than ever.
Superficial analyses of why certain tech billionaires are aligning with Trump tend to fixate on issues like
taxes and regulations,
but that’s only part of the story.
Tech plutocrats like Thiel and Elon #Musk already have money.
Now they want power—as much as money can buy. -
Where J.D. Vance Gets His Weird, Terrifying Techno-Authoritarian Ideas:
In 2008, a software developer in San Francisco named #Curtis #Yarvin, writing under a pseudonym,
proposed a horrific solution for people he deemed
“not productive”:
“convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.”Yarvin, a self-described reactionary and extremist who was 35 years old at the time,
clarified that he was “just kidding.”
But then he continued,
“The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass.
However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to #genocide.”He then concluded that the
“best humane alternative to genocide” is to “virtualize” these people:
Imprison them in “permanent solitary confinement”
where, to avoid making them insane, they would be connected to an “immersive virtual-reality interface”
so they could “experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.”Yarvin’s disturbing manifestos have earned him influential followers,
chief among them: tech billionaire #Peter #Thiel
and his onetime Silicon Valley protégé Senator J.D. #Vance,
whom the Republican Party just nominated to be Donald #Trump’s vice president.
🔥If Trump wins the election, there is little doubt that Vance will bring Yarvin’s twisted #techno-#authoritarianism to the White House,
and one can imagine—with horror
—what a receptive would-be autocrat like Trump might do with those ideas.Trump’s first campaign was undoubtedly a watershed moment for authoritarianism in American politics,
but some thinkers on the right had been laying the groundwork for years,
hoping for someone to mainstream their ideas.
Yarvin was one of them.
Way back in 2012, in a speech on
“How to Reboot the US Government,” he said,
💥“If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their #dictator phobia.”
He had also written favorably of #slavery and #white #nationalists in the late 2000s (though he has stated that he is not a white nationalist himself).Both Thiel and Vance are friends of Yarvin.
In "The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power", reporter Max Chafkin describes Yarvin as
the “house political philosopher” of the “#Thielverse,”
a term for the people in Thiel’s orbit.
In 2013, Thiel invested in #Tlön, a software startup co-founded by Yarvin.
In 2016, Yarvin attended Thiel’s election night party in San Francisco where, according to Chafkin, champagne flowed once it became clear that Thiel’s investment in Donald Trump would pay off.
Since entering politics, Vance has publicly praised
—and parroted
—Yarvin’s ideas.
That was worrying enough when Vance was only a senator.
Now that he could soon be a heartbeat away from the presidency, his close ties to Yarvin are more alarming than ever.
Superficial analyses of why certain tech billionaires are aligning with Trump tend to fixate on issues like
taxes and regulations,
but that’s only part of the story.
Tech plutocrats like Thiel and Elon #Musk already have money.
Now they want power—as much as money can buy. -
Where J.D. Vance Gets His Weird, Terrifying Techno-Authoritarian Ideas:
In 2008, a software developer in San Francisco named #Curtis #Yarvin, writing under a pseudonym,
proposed a horrific solution for people he deemed
“not productive”:
“convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.”Yarvin, a self-described reactionary and extremist who was 35 years old at the time,
clarified that he was “just kidding.”
But then he continued,
“The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass.
However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to #genocide.”He then concluded that the
“best humane alternative to genocide” is to “virtualize” these people:
Imprison them in “permanent solitary confinement”
where, to avoid making them insane, they would be connected to an “immersive virtual-reality interface”
so they could “experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.”Yarvin’s disturbing manifestos have earned him influential followers,
chief among them: tech billionaire #Peter #Thiel
and his onetime Silicon Valley protégé Senator J.D. #Vance,
whom the Republican Party just nominated to be Donald #Trump’s vice president.
🔥If Trump wins the election, there is little doubt that Vance will bring Yarvin’s twisted #techno-#authoritarianism to the White House,
and one can imagine—with horror
—what a receptive would-be autocrat like Trump might do with those ideas.Trump’s first campaign was undoubtedly a watershed moment for authoritarianism in American politics,
but some thinkers on the right had been laying the groundwork for years,
hoping for someone to mainstream their ideas.
Yarvin was one of them.
Way back in 2012, in a speech on
“How to Reboot the US Government,” he said,
💥“If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their #dictator phobia.”
He had also written favorably of #slavery and #white #nationalists in the late 2000s (though he has stated that he is not a white nationalist himself).Both Thiel and Vance are friends of Yarvin.
In "The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power", reporter Max Chafkin describes Yarvin as
the “house political philosopher” of the “#Thielverse,”
a term for the people in Thiel’s orbit.
In 2013, Thiel invested in #Tlön, a software startup co-founded by Yarvin.
In 2016, Yarvin attended Thiel’s election night party in San Francisco where, according to Chafkin, champagne flowed once it became clear that Thiel’s investment in Donald Trump would pay off.
Since entering politics, Vance has publicly praised
—and parroted
—Yarvin’s ideas.
That was worrying enough when Vance was only a senator.
Now that he could soon be a heartbeat away from the presidency, his close ties to Yarvin are more alarming than ever.
Superficial analyses of why certain tech billionaires are aligning with Trump tend to fixate on issues like
taxes and regulations,
but that’s only part of the story.
Tech plutocrats like Thiel and Elon #Musk already have money.
Now they want power—as much as money can buy. -
Where J.D. Vance Gets His Weird, Terrifying Techno-Authoritarian Ideas:
In 2008, a software developer in San Francisco named #Curtis #Yarvin, writing under a pseudonym,
proposed a horrific solution for people he deemed
“not productive”:
“convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.”Yarvin, a self-described reactionary and extremist who was 35 years old at the time,
clarified that he was “just kidding.”
But then he continued,
“The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass.
However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to #genocide.”He then concluded that the
“best humane alternative to genocide” is to “virtualize” these people:
Imprison them in “permanent solitary confinement”
where, to avoid making them insane, they would be connected to an “immersive virtual-reality interface”
so they could “experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.”Yarvin’s disturbing manifestos have earned him influential followers,
chief among them: tech billionaire #Peter #Thiel
and his onetime Silicon Valley protégé Senator J.D. #Vance,
whom the Republican Party just nominated to be Donald #Trump’s vice president.
🔥If Trump wins the election, there is little doubt that Vance will bring Yarvin’s twisted #techno-#authoritarianism to the White House,
and one can imagine—with horror
—what a receptive would-be autocrat like Trump might do with those ideas.Trump’s first campaign was undoubtedly a watershed moment for authoritarianism in American politics,
but some thinkers on the right had been laying the groundwork for years,
hoping for someone to mainstream their ideas.
Yarvin was one of them.
Way back in 2012, in a speech on
“How to Reboot the US Government,” he said,
💥“If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their #dictator phobia.”
He had also written favorably of #slavery and #white #nationalists in the late 2000s (though he has stated that he is not a white nationalist himself).Both Thiel and Vance are friends of Yarvin.
In "The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power", reporter Max Chafkin describes Yarvin as
the “house political philosopher” of the “#Thielverse,”
a term for the people in Thiel’s orbit.
In 2013, Thiel invested in #Tlön, a software startup co-founded by Yarvin.
In 2016, Yarvin attended Thiel’s election night party in San Francisco where, according to Chafkin, champagne flowed once it became clear that Thiel’s investment in Donald Trump would pay off.
Since entering politics, Vance has publicly praised
—and parroted
—Yarvin’s ideas.
That was worrying enough when Vance was only a senator.
Now that he could soon be a heartbeat away from the presidency, his close ties to Yarvin are more alarming than ever.
Superficial analyses of why certain tech billionaires are aligning with Trump tend to fixate on issues like
taxes and regulations,
but that’s only part of the story.
Tech plutocrats like Thiel and Elon #Musk already have money.
Now they want power—as much as money can buy. -
Where J.D. Vance Gets His Weird, Terrifying Techno-Authoritarian Ideas:
In 2008, a software developer in San Francisco named #Curtis #Yarvin, writing under a pseudonym,
proposed a horrific solution for people he deemed
“not productive”:
“convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.”Yarvin, a self-described reactionary and extremist who was 35 years old at the time,
clarified that he was “just kidding.”
But then he continued,
“The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass.
However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to #genocide.”He then concluded that the
“best humane alternative to genocide” is to “virtualize” these people:
Imprison them in “permanent solitary confinement”
where, to avoid making them insane, they would be connected to an “immersive virtual-reality interface”
so they could “experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.”Yarvin’s disturbing manifestos have earned him influential followers,
chief among them: tech billionaire #Peter #Thiel
and his onetime Silicon Valley protégé Senator J.D. #Vance,
whom the Republican Party just nominated to be Donald #Trump’s vice president.
🔥If Trump wins the election, there is little doubt that Vance will bring Yarvin’s twisted #techno-#authoritarianism to the White House,
and one can imagine—with horror
—what a receptive would-be autocrat like Trump might do with those ideas.Trump’s first campaign was undoubtedly a watershed moment for authoritarianism in American politics,
but some thinkers on the right had been laying the groundwork for years,
hoping for someone to mainstream their ideas.
Yarvin was one of them.
Way back in 2012, in a speech on
“How to Reboot the US Government,” he said,
💥“If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their #dictator phobia.”
He had also written favorably of #slavery and #white #nationalists in the late 2000s (though he has stated that he is not a white nationalist himself).Both Thiel and Vance are friends of Yarvin.
In "The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power", reporter Max Chafkin describes Yarvin as
the “house political philosopher” of the “#Thielverse,”
a term for the people in Thiel’s orbit.
In 2013, Thiel invested in #Tlön, a software startup co-founded by Yarvin.
In 2016, Yarvin attended Thiel’s election night party in San Francisco where, according to Chafkin, champagne flowed once it became clear that Thiel’s investment in Donald Trump would pay off.
Since entering politics, Vance has publicly praised
—and parroted
—Yarvin’s ideas.
That was worrying enough when Vance was only a senator.
Now that he could soon be a heartbeat away from the presidency, his close ties to Yarvin are more alarming than ever.
Superficial analyses of why certain tech billionaires are aligning with Trump tend to fixate on issues like
taxes and regulations,
but that’s only part of the story.
Tech plutocrats like Thiel and Elon #Musk already have money.
Now they want power—as much as money can buy. -
The next morning,
wrecked,
I put on sweatpants and a hoodie
and tried to smuggle myself out of the hotel without having to talk to anyone.I gave my chit to the valet and looked around to find Vance and Yarvin standing there waiting for cars.
“How do you guys feel?” Yarvin asked.
Vance was wearing a hoodie too and looked like I felt.
“I feel horrible,” he said.
“Not good.”Yarvin asked what I’d thought of everything.
I said it would take a long time for me to figure that out.
We all shook hands,
and they waved as I got into my car and we all resumed our usual battle stations in the American info-wars.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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The next morning,
wrecked,
I put on sweatpants and a hoodie
and tried to smuggle myself out of the hotel without having to talk to anyone.I gave my chit to the valet and looked around to find Vance and Yarvin standing there waiting for cars.
“How do you guys feel?” Yarvin asked.
Vance was wearing a hoodie too and looked like I felt.
“I feel horrible,” he said.
“Not good.”Yarvin asked what I’d thought of everything.
I said it would take a long time for me to figure that out.
We all shook hands,
and they waved as I got into my car and we all resumed our usual battle stations in the American info-wars.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
-
The next morning,
wrecked,
I put on sweatpants and a hoodie
and tried to smuggle myself out of the hotel without having to talk to anyone.I gave my chit to the valet and looked around to find Vance and Yarvin standing there waiting for cars.
“How do you guys feel?” Yarvin asked.
Vance was wearing a hoodie too and looked like I felt.
“I feel horrible,” he said.
“Not good.”Yarvin asked what I’d thought of everything.
I said it would take a long time for me to figure that out.
We all shook hands,
and they waved as I got into my car and we all resumed our usual battle stations in the American info-wars.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
-
The next morning,
wrecked,
I put on sweatpants and a hoodie
and tried to smuggle myself out of the hotel without having to talk to anyone.I gave my chit to the valet and looked around to find Vance and Yarvin standing there waiting for cars.
“How do you guys feel?” Yarvin asked.
Vance was wearing a hoodie too and looked like I felt.
“I feel horrible,” he said.
“Not good.”Yarvin asked what I’d thought of everything.
I said it would take a long time for me to figure that out.
We all shook hands,
and they waved as I got into my car and we all resumed our usual battle stations in the American info-wars.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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The next morning,
wrecked,
I put on sweatpants and a hoodie
and tried to smuggle myself out of the hotel without having to talk to anyone.I gave my chit to the valet and looked around to find Vance and Yarvin standing there waiting for cars.
“How do you guys feel?” Yarvin asked.
Vance was wearing a hoodie too and looked like I felt.
“I feel horrible,” he said.
“Not good.”Yarvin asked what I’d thought of everything.
I said it would take a long time for me to figure that out.
We all shook hands,
and they waved as I got into my car and we all resumed our usual battle stations in the American info-wars.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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“We are in a late republican period,”
Vance said later,
evoking the common New Right view of America as Rome awaiting its Caesar.“If we’re going to push back against it, we’re going to have to get pretty wild,
and pretty far out there,
and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with.”“Indeed,” Murphy said. “Among some of my circle, the phrase ‘extra-constitutional’ has come up quite a bit.”
I’d asked Vance to tell me, on the record, what he’d like liberal Americans who thought that what he was proposing was a fascist takeover of America to understand.
He spoke earnestly. “I think the cultural world you operate in is incredibly biased,” he said
—against his movement and “the leaders of it,
like me in particular.”He encouraged me to resist this tendency, which he thought was the product of a media machine leading us toward a soulless dystopia that none of us want to live in.
“That impulse,” he said,
“is fundamentally in service of something that is far worse than anything,
in your wildest nightmares,
than what you see here.”He gave me an imploring look,
as though to suggest that he was more on the side of the kind of people who read Vanity Fair than most of you realize.If what he was doing worked, he said,
“it will mean that my son grows up in a world where his masculinity
—his support of his family and his community,
his love of his community
—is more important than whether it works for fucking McKinsey.”At that, we called it,
and the crowd of young men who wanted to talk to him immediately descended on the couches.People kept bringing drinks, and there was a lot of shit talk, and it went on late.
I remember thinking at one point how strange it was that in our mid-30s
Vance and I were significantly older than almost everyone there,
all of whom thought they were organizing a struggle to change the course of human history,
and all of whom were now going to get sloppy drunk.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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“We are in a late republican period,”
Vance said later,
evoking the common New Right view of America as Rome awaiting its Caesar.“If we’re going to push back against it, we’re going to have to get pretty wild,
and pretty far out there,
and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with.”“Indeed,” Murphy said. “Among some of my circle, the phrase ‘extra-constitutional’ has come up quite a bit.”
I’d asked Vance to tell me, on the record, what he’d like liberal Americans who thought that what he was proposing was a fascist takeover of America to understand.
He spoke earnestly. “I think the cultural world you operate in is incredibly biased,” he said
—against his movement and “the leaders of it,
like me in particular.”He encouraged me to resist this tendency, which he thought was the product of a media machine leading us toward a soulless dystopia that none of us want to live in.
“That impulse,” he said,
“is fundamentally in service of something that is far worse than anything,
in your wildest nightmares,
than what you see here.”He gave me an imploring look,
as though to suggest that he was more on the side of the kind of people who read Vanity Fair than most of you realize.If what he was doing worked, he said,
“it will mean that my son grows up in a world where his masculinity
—his support of his family and his community,
his love of his community
—is more important than whether it works for fucking McKinsey.”At that, we called it,
and the crowd of young men who wanted to talk to him immediately descended on the couches.People kept bringing drinks, and there was a lot of shit talk, and it went on late.
I remember thinking at one point how strange it was that in our mid-30s
Vance and I were significantly older than almost everyone there,
all of whom thought they were organizing a struggle to change the course of human history,
and all of whom were now going to get sloppy drunk.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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“We are in a late republican period,”
Vance said later,
evoking the common New Right view of America as Rome awaiting its Caesar.“If we’re going to push back against it, we’re going to have to get pretty wild,
and pretty far out there,
and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with.”“Indeed,” Murphy said. “Among some of my circle, the phrase ‘extra-constitutional’ has come up quite a bit.”
I’d asked Vance to tell me, on the record, what he’d like liberal Americans who thought that what he was proposing was a fascist takeover of America to understand.
He spoke earnestly. “I think the cultural world you operate in is incredibly biased,” he said
—against his movement and “the leaders of it,
like me in particular.”He encouraged me to resist this tendency, which he thought was the product of a media machine leading us toward a soulless dystopia that none of us want to live in.
“That impulse,” he said,
“is fundamentally in service of something that is far worse than anything,
in your wildest nightmares,
than what you see here.”He gave me an imploring look,
as though to suggest that he was more on the side of the kind of people who read Vanity Fair than most of you realize.If what he was doing worked, he said,
“it will mean that my son grows up in a world where his masculinity
—his support of his family and his community,
his love of his community
—is more important than whether it works for fucking McKinsey.”At that, we called it,
and the crowd of young men who wanted to talk to him immediately descended on the couches.People kept bringing drinks, and there was a lot of shit talk, and it went on late.
I remember thinking at one point how strange it was that in our mid-30s
Vance and I were significantly older than almost everyone there,
all of whom thought they were organizing a struggle to change the course of human history,
and all of whom were now going to get sloppy drunk.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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“We are in a late republican period,”
Vance said later,
evoking the common New Right view of America as Rome awaiting its Caesar.“If we’re going to push back against it, we’re going to have to get pretty wild,
and pretty far out there,
and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with.”“Indeed,” Murphy said. “Among some of my circle, the phrase ‘extra-constitutional’ has come up quite a bit.”
I’d asked Vance to tell me, on the record, what he’d like liberal Americans who thought that what he was proposing was a fascist takeover of America to understand.
He spoke earnestly. “I think the cultural world you operate in is incredibly biased,” he said
—against his movement and “the leaders of it,
like me in particular.”He encouraged me to resist this tendency, which he thought was the product of a media machine leading us toward a soulless dystopia that none of us want to live in.
“That impulse,” he said,
“is fundamentally in service of something that is far worse than anything,
in your wildest nightmares,
than what you see here.”He gave me an imploring look,
as though to suggest that he was more on the side of the kind of people who read Vanity Fair than most of you realize.If what he was doing worked, he said,
“it will mean that my son grows up in a world where his masculinity
—his support of his family and his community,
his love of his community
—is more important than whether it works for fucking McKinsey.”At that, we called it,
and the crowd of young men who wanted to talk to him immediately descended on the couches.People kept bringing drinks, and there was a lot of shit talk, and it went on late.
I remember thinking at one point how strange it was that in our mid-30s
Vance and I were significantly older than almost everyone there,
all of whom thought they were organizing a struggle to change the course of human history,
and all of whom were now going to get sloppy drunk.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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“We are in a late republican period,”
Vance said later,
evoking the common New Right view of America as Rome awaiting its Caesar.“If we’re going to push back against it, we’re going to have to get pretty wild,
and pretty far out there,
and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with.”“Indeed,” Murphy said. “Among some of my circle, the phrase ‘extra-constitutional’ has come up quite a bit.”
I’d asked Vance to tell me, on the record, what he’d like liberal Americans who thought that what he was proposing was a fascist takeover of America to understand.
He spoke earnestly. “I think the cultural world you operate in is incredibly biased,” he said
—against his movement and “the leaders of it,
like me in particular.”He encouraged me to resist this tendency, which he thought was the product of a media machine leading us toward a soulless dystopia that none of us want to live in.
“That impulse,” he said,
“is fundamentally in service of something that is far worse than anything,
in your wildest nightmares,
than what you see here.”He gave me an imploring look,
as though to suggest that he was more on the side of the kind of people who read Vanity Fair than most of you realize.If what he was doing worked, he said,
“it will mean that my son grows up in a world where his masculinity
—his support of his family and his community,
his love of his community
—is more important than whether it works for fucking McKinsey.”At that, we called it,
and the crowd of young men who wanted to talk to him immediately descended on the couches.People kept bringing drinks, and there was a lot of shit talk, and it went on late.
I remember thinking at one point how strange it was that in our mid-30s
Vance and I were significantly older than almost everyone there,
all of whom thought they were organizing a struggle to change the course of human history,
and all of whom were now going to get sloppy drunk.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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Yarvin and Laurenson bounded out of the crowd as the cheers were still ringing.
They were giggling, seeming to have had some wine.
“Nixon—Nixon!”Laurenson said,
still laughing.I couldn’t tell if she was delighted or horrified.
A couple of hours later I found Vance standing up by the bar,
surrounded by a circle of young and identical-looking fanboys.I went over. He asked what I’d thought of the speech, and he suggested we find somewhere to talk.
He asked me to turn my recorder off so we could speak candidly.
I agreed, with regret, because the conversation revealed someone who I think will be hugely influential in our politics in the coming years,
even if he loses his Senate primary,
as both of us thought was possible.It also revealed someone who is in a dark place,
with a view that we are at an ominous turning point in America’s history.He didn’t want to describe this to me on the record.
But I can show it anyway, because he already says it publicly, and you can hear it too.
That night, I went up to my hotel room and listened to a podcast interview Vance had conducted with Jack Murphy,
the big, bearded head of the "Liminal Order" men’s group.Murphy asked how it was that Vance proposed to rip out America’s leadership class.
Vance described two possibilities that many on the New Right imagine
—that our system will either fall apart naturally,
or that a great leader will assume semi-dictatorial powers.“So there’s this guy Curtis Yarvin, who has written about some of these things,” Vance said.
Murphy chortled knowingly.
“So one [option] is to basically accept that this entire thing is going to fall in on itself,” Vance went on.
“And so the task of conservatives right now is to preserve as much as can be preserved,” waiting for the “inevitable collapse” of the current order.
He said he thought this was pessimistic.
“I tend to think that we should seize the institutions of the left,” he said.
“And turn them against the left.We need like a
de-Baathification program,
a de-woke-ification program.”I think Trump is going to run again in 2024,” he said.
“I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice:
Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state,
replace them with our people.”
“And when the courts stop you,” he went on, “stand before the country, and say
—” he quoted Andrew Jackson, giving a challenge to the entire constitutional order
—“the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”This is a description, essentially, of a coup.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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Yarvin and Laurenson bounded out of the crowd as the cheers were still ringing.
They were giggling, seeming to have had some wine.
“Nixon—Nixon!”Laurenson said,
still laughing.I couldn’t tell if she was delighted or horrified.
A couple of hours later I found Vance standing up by the bar,
surrounded by a circle of young and identical-looking fanboys.I went over. He asked what I’d thought of the speech, and he suggested we find somewhere to talk.
He asked me to turn my recorder off so we could speak candidly.
I agreed, with regret, because the conversation revealed someone who I think will be hugely influential in our politics in the coming years,
even if he loses his Senate primary,
as both of us thought was possible.It also revealed someone who is in a dark place,
with a view that we are at an ominous turning point in America’s history.He didn’t want to describe this to me on the record.
But I can show it anyway, because he already says it publicly, and you can hear it too.
That night, I went up to my hotel room and listened to a podcast interview Vance had conducted with Jack Murphy,
the big, bearded head of the "Liminal Order" men’s group.Murphy asked how it was that Vance proposed to rip out America’s leadership class.
Vance described two possibilities that many on the New Right imagine
—that our system will either fall apart naturally,
or that a great leader will assume semi-dictatorial powers.“So there’s this guy Curtis Yarvin, who has written about some of these things,” Vance said.
Murphy chortled knowingly.
“So one [option] is to basically accept that this entire thing is going to fall in on itself,” Vance went on.
“And so the task of conservatives right now is to preserve as much as can be preserved,” waiting for the “inevitable collapse” of the current order.
He said he thought this was pessimistic.
“I tend to think that we should seize the institutions of the left,” he said.
“And turn them against the left.We need like a
de-Baathification program,
a de-woke-ification program.”I think Trump is going to run again in 2024,” he said.
“I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice:
Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state,
replace them with our people.”
“And when the courts stop you,” he went on, “stand before the country, and say
—” he quoted Andrew Jackson, giving a challenge to the entire constitutional order
—“the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”This is a description, essentially, of a coup.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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Yarvin and Laurenson bounded out of the crowd as the cheers were still ringing.
They were giggling, seeming to have had some wine.
“Nixon—Nixon!”Laurenson said,
still laughing.I couldn’t tell if she was delighted or horrified.
A couple of hours later I found Vance standing up by the bar,
surrounded by a circle of young and identical-looking fanboys.I went over. He asked what I’d thought of the speech, and he suggested we find somewhere to talk.
He asked me to turn my recorder off so we could speak candidly.
I agreed, with regret, because the conversation revealed someone who I think will be hugely influential in our politics in the coming years,
even if he loses his Senate primary,
as both of us thought was possible.It also revealed someone who is in a dark place,
with a view that we are at an ominous turning point in America’s history.He didn’t want to describe this to me on the record.
But I can show it anyway, because he already says it publicly, and you can hear it too.
That night, I went up to my hotel room and listened to a podcast interview Vance had conducted with Jack Murphy,
the big, bearded head of the "Liminal Order" men’s group.Murphy asked how it was that Vance proposed to rip out America’s leadership class.
Vance described two possibilities that many on the New Right imagine
—that our system will either fall apart naturally,
or that a great leader will assume semi-dictatorial powers.“So there’s this guy Curtis Yarvin, who has written about some of these things,” Vance said.
Murphy chortled knowingly.
“So one [option] is to basically accept that this entire thing is going to fall in on itself,” Vance went on.
“And so the task of conservatives right now is to preserve as much as can be preserved,” waiting for the “inevitable collapse” of the current order.
He said he thought this was pessimistic.
“I tend to think that we should seize the institutions of the left,” he said.
“And turn them against the left.We need like a
de-Baathification program,
a de-woke-ification program.”I think Trump is going to run again in 2024,” he said.
“I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice:
Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state,
replace them with our people.”
“And when the courts stop you,” he went on, “stand before the country, and say
—” he quoted Andrew Jackson, giving a challenge to the entire constitutional order
—“the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”This is a description, essentially, of a coup.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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Yarvin and Laurenson bounded out of the crowd as the cheers were still ringing.
They were giggling, seeming to have had some wine.
“Nixon—Nixon!”Laurenson said,
still laughing.I couldn’t tell if she was delighted or horrified.
A couple of hours later I found Vance standing up by the bar,
surrounded by a circle of young and identical-looking fanboys.I went over. He asked what I’d thought of the speech, and he suggested we find somewhere to talk.
He asked me to turn my recorder off so we could speak candidly.
I agreed, with regret, because the conversation revealed someone who I think will be hugely influential in our politics in the coming years,
even if he loses his Senate primary,
as both of us thought was possible.It also revealed someone who is in a dark place,
with a view that we are at an ominous turning point in America’s history.He didn’t want to describe this to me on the record.
But I can show it anyway, because he already says it publicly, and you can hear it too.
That night, I went up to my hotel room and listened to a podcast interview Vance had conducted with Jack Murphy,
the big, bearded head of the "Liminal Order" men’s group.Murphy asked how it was that Vance proposed to rip out America’s leadership class.
Vance described two possibilities that many on the New Right imagine
—that our system will either fall apart naturally,
or that a great leader will assume semi-dictatorial powers.“So there’s this guy Curtis Yarvin, who has written about some of these things,” Vance said.
Murphy chortled knowingly.
“So one [option] is to basically accept that this entire thing is going to fall in on itself,” Vance went on.
“And so the task of conservatives right now is to preserve as much as can be preserved,” waiting for the “inevitable collapse” of the current order.
He said he thought this was pessimistic.
“I tend to think that we should seize the institutions of the left,” he said.
“And turn them against the left.We need like a
de-Baathification program,
a de-woke-ification program.”I think Trump is going to run again in 2024,” he said.
“I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice:
Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state,
replace them with our people.”
“And when the courts stop you,” he went on, “stand before the country, and say
—” he quoted Andrew Jackson, giving a challenge to the entire constitutional order
—“the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”This is a description, essentially, of a coup.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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Yarvin and Laurenson bounded out of the crowd as the cheers were still ringing.
They were giggling, seeming to have had some wine.
“Nixon—Nixon!”Laurenson said,
still laughing.I couldn’t tell if she was delighted or horrified.
A couple of hours later I found Vance standing up by the bar,
surrounded by a circle of young and identical-looking fanboys.I went over. He asked what I’d thought of the speech, and he suggested we find somewhere to talk.
He asked me to turn my recorder off so we could speak candidly.
I agreed, with regret, because the conversation revealed someone who I think will be hugely influential in our politics in the coming years,
even if he loses his Senate primary,
as both of us thought was possible.It also revealed someone who is in a dark place,
with a view that we are at an ominous turning point in America’s history.He didn’t want to describe this to me on the record.
But I can show it anyway, because he already says it publicly, and you can hear it too.
That night, I went up to my hotel room and listened to a podcast interview Vance had conducted with Jack Murphy,
the big, bearded head of the "Liminal Order" men’s group.Murphy asked how it was that Vance proposed to rip out America’s leadership class.
Vance described two possibilities that many on the New Right imagine
—that our system will either fall apart naturally,
or that a great leader will assume semi-dictatorial powers.“So there’s this guy Curtis Yarvin, who has written about some of these things,” Vance said.
Murphy chortled knowingly.
“So one [option] is to basically accept that this entire thing is going to fall in on itself,” Vance went on.
“And so the task of conservatives right now is to preserve as much as can be preserved,” waiting for the “inevitable collapse” of the current order.
He said he thought this was pessimistic.
“I tend to think that we should seize the institutions of the left,” he said.
“And turn them against the left.We need like a
de-Baathification program,
a de-woke-ification program.”I think Trump is going to run again in 2024,” he said.
“I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice:
Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state,
replace them with our people.”
“And when the courts stop you,” he went on, “stand before the country, and say
—” he quoted Andrew Jackson, giving a challenge to the entire constitutional order
—“the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”This is a description, essentially, of a coup.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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On the last afternoon of NatCon,
a few hours before he was set to give the keynote address,
Vance showed up.He spotted me drinking a beer at the bar and came over to say hello.
“I still have no idea what I’m going to say,” he said, though he didn’t seem worried.
I wandered down to the ballroom to wait and ended up sitting with the U.S. correspondent for the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel.
I knew that some of the reporters there might have been under the impression that this was all mostly just tweedy MAGA pageantry.
He had a more complex view, having just spoken to Yarvin,
and asked me to explain his philosophy.I found myself at a loss.
I said that there were these things called the regime and the Cathedral and that Yarvin was “sort of a monarchist.”“A monarchist?”he asked.
He seemed taken aback to learn that what this hero figure of the New Right dreamed of was a king.
Vance showed up, wearing a suit and bright red tie,
looking relaxed for a person who was about to give a speech to hundreds of people who viewed him as possibly a last great hope in saving the American nation from global corporatist subjugation.He’d shot up in the polls and at that moment was second in his primary, helped by regular invitations from Carlson.
I asked how he was feeling about the speech. He looked impish. “I think I’ve got a good topic,” he said. “I’m going to talk about college.”
What he meant was that he was about to give a genuinely thunderous speech, titled
“The Universities Are the Enemy.”People immediately pointed out that it was a variation on something that Richard Nixon said to Henry Kissinger on White House tapes back in 1972.
Vance denounced elite colleges as enemies of the American people;
he has long proposed cutting off their federal funding and seizing their endowments.
The speech was later linked in alarmed
op-eds to “anti-intellectual” movements that had attacked institutions of learning.But that doesn’t quite reckon with what an apocalyptic message he was offering.
Because Vance and this New Right cohort, who are mostly so, so highly educated and well-read that their big problem often seems to be that they’re just too nerdy to be an effective force in mass politics,
are not anti-intellectual.Vance is an intellectual himself, even if he’s not currently playing one on TV.
But he thinks that our universities are full of people who have a structural,
self-serving, and
financial interest in coloring American culture as racist and evil.And he is ready to go to extraordinary lengths to fight them.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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On the last afternoon of NatCon,
a few hours before he was set to give the keynote address,
Vance showed up.He spotted me drinking a beer at the bar and came over to say hello.
“I still have no idea what I’m going to say,” he said, though he didn’t seem worried.
I wandered down to the ballroom to wait and ended up sitting with the U.S. correspondent for the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel.
I knew that some of the reporters there might have been under the impression that this was all mostly just tweedy MAGA pageantry.
He had a more complex view, having just spoken to Yarvin,
and asked me to explain his philosophy.I found myself at a loss.
I said that there were these things called the regime and the Cathedral and that Yarvin was “sort of a monarchist.”“A monarchist?”he asked.
He seemed taken aback to learn that what this hero figure of the New Right dreamed of was a king.
Vance showed up, wearing a suit and bright red tie,
looking relaxed for a person who was about to give a speech to hundreds of people who viewed him as possibly a last great hope in saving the American nation from global corporatist subjugation.He’d shot up in the polls and at that moment was second in his primary, helped by regular invitations from Carlson.
I asked how he was feeling about the speech. He looked impish. “I think I’ve got a good topic,” he said. “I’m going to talk about college.”
What he meant was that he was about to give a genuinely thunderous speech, titled
“The Universities Are the Enemy.”People immediately pointed out that it was a variation on something that Richard Nixon said to Henry Kissinger on White House tapes back in 1972.
Vance denounced elite colleges as enemies of the American people;
he has long proposed cutting off their federal funding and seizing their endowments.
The speech was later linked in alarmed
op-eds to “anti-intellectual” movements that had attacked institutions of learning.But that doesn’t quite reckon with what an apocalyptic message he was offering.
Because Vance and this New Right cohort, who are mostly so, so highly educated and well-read that their big problem often seems to be that they’re just too nerdy to be an effective force in mass politics,
are not anti-intellectual.Vance is an intellectual himself, even if he’s not currently playing one on TV.
But he thinks that our universities are full of people who have a structural,
self-serving, and
financial interest in coloring American culture as racist and evil.And he is ready to go to extraordinary lengths to fight them.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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On the last afternoon of NatCon,
a few hours before he was set to give the keynote address,
Vance showed up.He spotted me drinking a beer at the bar and came over to say hello.
“I still have no idea what I’m going to say,” he said, though he didn’t seem worried.
I wandered down to the ballroom to wait and ended up sitting with the U.S. correspondent for the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel.
I knew that some of the reporters there might have been under the impression that this was all mostly just tweedy MAGA pageantry.
He had a more complex view, having just spoken to Yarvin,
and asked me to explain his philosophy.I found myself at a loss.
I said that there were these things called the regime and the Cathedral and that Yarvin was “sort of a monarchist.”“A monarchist?”he asked.
He seemed taken aback to learn that what this hero figure of the New Right dreamed of was a king.
Vance showed up, wearing a suit and bright red tie,
looking relaxed for a person who was about to give a speech to hundreds of people who viewed him as possibly a last great hope in saving the American nation from global corporatist subjugation.He’d shot up in the polls and at that moment was second in his primary, helped by regular invitations from Carlson.
I asked how he was feeling about the speech. He looked impish. “I think I’ve got a good topic,” he said. “I’m going to talk about college.”
What he meant was that he was about to give a genuinely thunderous speech, titled
“The Universities Are the Enemy.”People immediately pointed out that it was a variation on something that Richard Nixon said to Henry Kissinger on White House tapes back in 1972.
Vance denounced elite colleges as enemies of the American people;
he has long proposed cutting off their federal funding and seizing their endowments.
The speech was later linked in alarmed
op-eds to “anti-intellectual” movements that had attacked institutions of learning.But that doesn’t quite reckon with what an apocalyptic message he was offering.
Because Vance and this New Right cohort, who are mostly so, so highly educated and well-read that their big problem often seems to be that they’re just too nerdy to be an effective force in mass politics,
are not anti-intellectual.Vance is an intellectual himself, even if he’s not currently playing one on TV.
But he thinks that our universities are full of people who have a structural,
self-serving, and
financial interest in coloring American culture as racist and evil.And he is ready to go to extraordinary lengths to fight them.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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On the last afternoon of NatCon,
a few hours before he was set to give the keynote address,
Vance showed up.He spotted me drinking a beer at the bar and came over to say hello.
“I still have no idea what I’m going to say,” he said, though he didn’t seem worried.
I wandered down to the ballroom to wait and ended up sitting with the U.S. correspondent for the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel.
I knew that some of the reporters there might have been under the impression that this was all mostly just tweedy MAGA pageantry.
He had a more complex view, having just spoken to Yarvin,
and asked me to explain his philosophy.I found myself at a loss.
I said that there were these things called the regime and the Cathedral and that Yarvin was “sort of a monarchist.”“A monarchist?”he asked.
He seemed taken aback to learn that what this hero figure of the New Right dreamed of was a king.
Vance showed up, wearing a suit and bright red tie,
looking relaxed for a person who was about to give a speech to hundreds of people who viewed him as possibly a last great hope in saving the American nation from global corporatist subjugation.He’d shot up in the polls and at that moment was second in his primary, helped by regular invitations from Carlson.
I asked how he was feeling about the speech. He looked impish. “I think I’ve got a good topic,” he said. “I’m going to talk about college.”
What he meant was that he was about to give a genuinely thunderous speech, titled
“The Universities Are the Enemy.”People immediately pointed out that it was a variation on something that Richard Nixon said to Henry Kissinger on White House tapes back in 1972.
Vance denounced elite colleges as enemies of the American people;
he has long proposed cutting off their federal funding and seizing their endowments.
The speech was later linked in alarmed
op-eds to “anti-intellectual” movements that had attacked institutions of learning.But that doesn’t quite reckon with what an apocalyptic message he was offering.
Because Vance and this New Right cohort, who are mostly so, so highly educated and well-read that their big problem often seems to be that they’re just too nerdy to be an effective force in mass politics,
are not anti-intellectual.Vance is an intellectual himself, even if he’s not currently playing one on TV.
But he thinks that our universities are full of people who have a structural,
self-serving, and
financial interest in coloring American culture as racist and evil.And he is ready to go to extraordinary lengths to fight them.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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On the last afternoon of NatCon,
a few hours before he was set to give the keynote address,
Vance showed up.He spotted me drinking a beer at the bar and came over to say hello.
“I still have no idea what I’m going to say,” he said, though he didn’t seem worried.
I wandered down to the ballroom to wait and ended up sitting with the U.S. correspondent for the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel.
I knew that some of the reporters there might have been under the impression that this was all mostly just tweedy MAGA pageantry.
He had a more complex view, having just spoken to Yarvin,
and asked me to explain his philosophy.I found myself at a loss.
I said that there were these things called the regime and the Cathedral and that Yarvin was “sort of a monarchist.”“A monarchist?”he asked.
He seemed taken aback to learn that what this hero figure of the New Right dreamed of was a king.
Vance showed up, wearing a suit and bright red tie,
looking relaxed for a person who was about to give a speech to hundreds of people who viewed him as possibly a last great hope in saving the American nation from global corporatist subjugation.He’d shot up in the polls and at that moment was second in his primary, helped by regular invitations from Carlson.
I asked how he was feeling about the speech. He looked impish. “I think I’ve got a good topic,” he said. “I’m going to talk about college.”
What he meant was that he was about to give a genuinely thunderous speech, titled
“The Universities Are the Enemy.”People immediately pointed out that it was a variation on something that Richard Nixon said to Henry Kissinger on White House tapes back in 1972.
Vance denounced elite colleges as enemies of the American people;
he has long proposed cutting off their federal funding and seizing their endowments.
The speech was later linked in alarmed
op-eds to “anti-intellectual” movements that had attacked institutions of learning.But that doesn’t quite reckon with what an apocalyptic message he was offering.
Because Vance and this New Right cohort, who are mostly so, so highly educated and well-read that their big problem often seems to be that they’re just too nerdy to be an effective force in mass politics,
are not anti-intellectual.Vance is an intellectual himself, even if he’s not currently playing one on TV.
But he thinks that our universities are full of people who have a structural,
self-serving, and
financial interest in coloring American culture as racist and evil.And he is ready to go to extraordinary lengths to fight them.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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We drove a long way into the desert before we arrived at the campaign meet-and-greet,
which was being hosted by a former CIA official in a comfortable retirement community.The crowd of a few dozen was mostly sweater-wearing retirees,
immersed in a media culture in which the people who repeated the most incendiary and Trumpist talking points tended to gain attention and political support.This kind of groupthink was not just a phenomenon of the liberal media,
and this fact has hampered the campaigns of both Masters and Vance,
who are often seen as Trump-aligned culture warriors,
and who have had a lot of trouble working their more complicated policy ideas into our fervid political conversation.He talked through his proposal to regulate tech companies as common carriers,
like America once regulated phone companies.The crowd seemed interested but hardly electrified.
When he took questions at the end, they were mostly the usual ones about the supposedly stolen 2020 election
—a view that Masters did not push back on
—the border wall,
vaccine mandates.One man raised his hand to ask how Masters planned to drain the swamp.
He gave me a sly look. “Well, one of my friends has this acronym he calls RAGE,” he said.
“Retire All Government Employees.”
The crowd liked the sound of this and erupted in a cheer.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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We drove a long way into the desert before we arrived at the campaign meet-and-greet,
which was being hosted by a former CIA official in a comfortable retirement community.The crowd of a few dozen was mostly sweater-wearing retirees,
immersed in a media culture in which the people who repeated the most incendiary and Trumpist talking points tended to gain attention and political support.This kind of groupthink was not just a phenomenon of the liberal media,
and this fact has hampered the campaigns of both Masters and Vance,
who are often seen as Trump-aligned culture warriors,
and who have had a lot of trouble working their more complicated policy ideas into our fervid political conversation.He talked through his proposal to regulate tech companies as common carriers,
like America once regulated phone companies.The crowd seemed interested but hardly electrified.
When he took questions at the end, they were mostly the usual ones about the supposedly stolen 2020 election
—a view that Masters did not push back on
—the border wall,
vaccine mandates.One man raised his hand to ask how Masters planned to drain the swamp.
He gave me a sly look. “Well, one of my friends has this acronym he calls RAGE,” he said.
“Retire All Government Employees.”
The crowd liked the sound of this and erupted in a cheer.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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We drove a long way into the desert before we arrived at the campaign meet-and-greet,
which was being hosted by a former CIA official in a comfortable retirement community.The crowd of a few dozen was mostly sweater-wearing retirees,
immersed in a media culture in which the people who repeated the most incendiary and Trumpist talking points tended to gain attention and political support.This kind of groupthink was not just a phenomenon of the liberal media,
and this fact has hampered the campaigns of both Masters and Vance,
who are often seen as Trump-aligned culture warriors,
and who have had a lot of trouble working their more complicated policy ideas into our fervid political conversation.He talked through his proposal to regulate tech companies as common carriers,
like America once regulated phone companies.The crowd seemed interested but hardly electrified.
When he took questions at the end, they were mostly the usual ones about the supposedly stolen 2020 election
—a view that Masters did not push back on
—the border wall,
vaccine mandates.One man raised his hand to ask how Masters planned to drain the swamp.
He gave me a sly look. “Well, one of my friends has this acronym he calls RAGE,” he said.
“Retire All Government Employees.”
The crowd liked the sound of this and erupted in a cheer.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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We drove a long way into the desert before we arrived at the campaign meet-and-greet,
which was being hosted by a former CIA official in a comfortable retirement community.The crowd of a few dozen was mostly sweater-wearing retirees,
immersed in a media culture in which the people who repeated the most incendiary and Trumpist talking points tended to gain attention and political support.This kind of groupthink was not just a phenomenon of the liberal media,
and this fact has hampered the campaigns of both Masters and Vance,
who are often seen as Trump-aligned culture warriors,
and who have had a lot of trouble working their more complicated policy ideas into our fervid political conversation.He talked through his proposal to regulate tech companies as common carriers,
like America once regulated phone companies.The crowd seemed interested but hardly electrified.
When he took questions at the end, they were mostly the usual ones about the supposedly stolen 2020 election
—a view that Masters did not push back on
—the border wall,
vaccine mandates.One man raised his hand to ask how Masters planned to drain the swamp.
He gave me a sly look. “Well, one of my friends has this acronym he calls RAGE,” he said.
“Retire All Government Employees.”
The crowd liked the sound of this and erupted in a cheer.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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We drove a long way into the desert before we arrived at the campaign meet-and-greet,
which was being hosted by a former CIA official in a comfortable retirement community.The crowd of a few dozen was mostly sweater-wearing retirees,
immersed in a media culture in which the people who repeated the most incendiary and Trumpist talking points tended to gain attention and political support.This kind of groupthink was not just a phenomenon of the liberal media,
and this fact has hampered the campaigns of both Masters and Vance,
who are often seen as Trump-aligned culture warriors,
and who have had a lot of trouble working their more complicated policy ideas into our fervid political conversation.He talked through his proposal to regulate tech companies as common carriers,
like America once regulated phone companies.The crowd seemed interested but hardly electrified.
When he took questions at the end, they were mostly the usual ones about the supposedly stolen 2020 election
—a view that Masters did not push back on
—the border wall,
vaccine mandates.One man raised his hand to ask how Masters planned to drain the swamp.
He gave me a sly look. “Well, one of my friends has this acronym he calls RAGE,” he said.
“Retire All Government Employees.”
The crowd liked the sound of this and erupted in a cheer.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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I asked Masters whether he thought the core of his project was a fight against a consumerist
techno-dystopia that many on the left have also come to fear.He said yes.
I asked why, if this was the case, it almost never came across in his mainstream media appearances.
“That’s interesting feedback,” he said. “That it’s not coming through.”
“I go on, and it’s the tail end of the B block, and I’ve got two minutes to talk about #Kyle #Rittenhouse,” he’d said earlier,
talking about his spots on Fox News.
“And it’s like, ‘Well, the left is insane, and this kid shouldn’t have been on trial,
and they’re punishing him for being a white guy who defended himself with an AR-15.’ ”Conservative media seems to thrive on culture-war touch points as much as all the rest of it.
“I feel like I’m willing to go there,” he said.
“But you can’t do that on Laura Ingraham sound bites.”
He was a little less rosy about the future with some interviewers than he was with me.
“We need someone with their hand on the tiller who understands where we’ve been and where we need to go,” he told the podcaster Alex Kaschuta recently.
“Otherwise we will get just totally owned by the progressive left.
And the progressive left just remains the enemy.
It’s the enemy of true progress. It’s the enemy of everything that is good.”
I asked if he could give me a vision of what he thought victory for his side would look like.
“It’s just families and meaningful work,” he said,
“so that you can raise your kids and worship and pursue your hobbies and figure out what the meaning of it all is.”Pretty much anyone could agree with this. And pretty much anyone could wonder how it is that this sort of thing has come to seem radical,
or distant from the lives of many people growing into adulthood today.“It just feels so networked,” he said. “It’s so in-the-matrix.”
#Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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I asked Masters whether he thought the core of his project was a fight against a consumerist
techno-dystopia that many on the left have also come to fear.He said yes.
I asked why, if this was the case, it almost never came across in his mainstream media appearances.
“That’s interesting feedback,” he said. “That it’s not coming through.”
“I go on, and it’s the tail end of the B block, and I’ve got two minutes to talk about #Kyle #Rittenhouse,” he’d said earlier,
talking about his spots on Fox News.
“And it’s like, ‘Well, the left is insane, and this kid shouldn’t have been on trial,
and they’re punishing him for being a white guy who defended himself with an AR-15.’ ”Conservative media seems to thrive on culture-war touch points as much as all the rest of it.
“I feel like I’m willing to go there,” he said.
“But you can’t do that on Laura Ingraham sound bites.”
He was a little less rosy about the future with some interviewers than he was with me.
“We need someone with their hand on the tiller who understands where we’ve been and where we need to go,” he told the podcaster Alex Kaschuta recently.
“Otherwise we will get just totally owned by the progressive left.
And the progressive left just remains the enemy.
It’s the enemy of true progress. It’s the enemy of everything that is good.”
I asked if he could give me a vision of what he thought victory for his side would look like.
“It’s just families and meaningful work,” he said,
“so that you can raise your kids and worship and pursue your hobbies and figure out what the meaning of it all is.”Pretty much anyone could agree with this. And pretty much anyone could wonder how it is that this sort of thing has come to seem radical,
or distant from the lives of many people growing into adulthood today.“It just feels so networked,” he said. “It’s so in-the-matrix.”
#Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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I asked Masters whether he thought the core of his project was a fight against a consumerist
techno-dystopia that many on the left have also come to fear.He said yes.
I asked why, if this was the case, it almost never came across in his mainstream media appearances.
“That’s interesting feedback,” he said. “That it’s not coming through.”
“I go on, and it’s the tail end of the B block, and I’ve got two minutes to talk about #Kyle #Rittenhouse,” he’d said earlier,
talking about his spots on Fox News.
“And it’s like, ‘Well, the left is insane, and this kid shouldn’t have been on trial,
and they’re punishing him for being a white guy who defended himself with an AR-15.’ ”Conservative media seems to thrive on culture-war touch points as much as all the rest of it.
“I feel like I’m willing to go there,” he said.
“But you can’t do that on Laura Ingraham sound bites.”
He was a little less rosy about the future with some interviewers than he was with me.
“We need someone with their hand on the tiller who understands where we’ve been and where we need to go,” he told the podcaster Alex Kaschuta recently.
“Otherwise we will get just totally owned by the progressive left.
And the progressive left just remains the enemy.
It’s the enemy of true progress. It’s the enemy of everything that is good.”
I asked if he could give me a vision of what he thought victory for his side would look like.
“It’s just families and meaningful work,” he said,
“so that you can raise your kids and worship and pursue your hobbies and figure out what the meaning of it all is.”Pretty much anyone could agree with this. And pretty much anyone could wonder how it is that this sort of thing has come to seem radical,
or distant from the lives of many people growing into adulthood today.“It just feels so networked,” he said. “It’s so in-the-matrix.”
#Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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I asked Masters whether he thought the core of his project was a fight against a consumerist
techno-dystopia that many on the left have also come to fear.He said yes.
I asked why, if this was the case, it almost never came across in his mainstream media appearances.
“That’s interesting feedback,” he said. “That it’s not coming through.”
“I go on, and it’s the tail end of the B block, and I’ve got two minutes to talk about #Kyle #Rittenhouse,” he’d said earlier,
talking about his spots on Fox News.
“And it’s like, ‘Well, the left is insane, and this kid shouldn’t have been on trial,
and they’re punishing him for being a white guy who defended himself with an AR-15.’ ”Conservative media seems to thrive on culture-war touch points as much as all the rest of it.
“I feel like I’m willing to go there,” he said.
“But you can’t do that on Laura Ingraham sound bites.”
He was a little less rosy about the future with some interviewers than he was with me.
“We need someone with their hand on the tiller who understands where we’ve been and where we need to go,” he told the podcaster Alex Kaschuta recently.
“Otherwise we will get just totally owned by the progressive left.
And the progressive left just remains the enemy.
It’s the enemy of true progress. It’s the enemy of everything that is good.”
I asked if he could give me a vision of what he thought victory for his side would look like.
“It’s just families and meaningful work,” he said,
“so that you can raise your kids and worship and pursue your hobbies and figure out what the meaning of it all is.”Pretty much anyone could agree with this. And pretty much anyone could wonder how it is that this sort of thing has come to seem radical,
or distant from the lives of many people growing into adulthood today.“It just feels so networked,” he said. “It’s so in-the-matrix.”
#Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
