#westsplaining — Public Fediverse posts

@josevnz

Do you think that the #Westsplaining [1] tag is justified to extend [2] from the original usage?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westsplaining

[2] https://framapiaf.org/@boud/112875093594503103

@foufoutos

There are *many* Venezuelan polling organisations who found similar pre-poll results massively in favour of González (60-70%) [1]; a local exit poll found the same result (Meganálisis 65%) [2]. So Wikileaks is misleading in claiming that *only* #EdisonResearch 's exit poll is motivating the fraud claims.

US involvement is likely, but *significant* US control tends to conspiracy theory.

#Westsplaining
#VenezuelansHaveAgency

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Venezuelan_presidential_election#After_the_official_confirmation_of_candidates

[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20240729210832/https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/streets-quiet-in-venezuela-as-government-and-opposition-both-claim-election-win/85350078

"The context here is a quantity of ammunition dropped on #Gaza that is equivalent to more than three times that of the atom bomb dropped on Hiroshima. A high proportion of those bombs were US-made and supplied. Those bombs were not made of language, and they certainly were not metaphors."

powerful text by #IsabellaHammad on the West's hypocrite scribes and their tone-policing for genocide

https://www.nybooks.com/online/2024/06/13/acts-of-language-isabella-hammad/
https://archive.ph/R524R
#Palestine #StudentProtests #Westsplaining @palestine

🚨 Nieuw op Donau: @Radboud_uni historicus Paul Hulsenboom betoogt dat de Westerse neerbuigende houding tegenover Oost-Europa een lange geschiedenis heeft die teruggaat tot in de zeventiende eeuw, ook in Nederland. #westsplaining
https://www.donaustroom.eu/de-wortels-van-oost-europa-als-koloniale-ruimte/

Vermutlich haben Sie schon von #Westsplaining gehört? Neuerdings wird auch von #Russplaining gesprochen oder ironisch von #Eastsplaining. Doch welcher Westen und Osten sind gemeint? Sylvia Sasse mit einer Analyse. https://geschichtedergegenwart.ch/westsplaining/

I dag er det 20 år siden fredsbevegelsens historiske høydepunkt da millioner av mennesker verden over protesterte mot USAs invasjon av Irak.
Det lyktes ikke, USA invaderte likevel og endte i den kjente "hengemyra". Til tross for at fredsbevegelsen hadde rett den gangen så endte den samme bevegelsen også i en hengemyr.
Mesteparten av energien gikk ut av bevegelsen. En del av bevegelsen fortsatte med den etablerte kampen mot atomvåpen og andre våpen og oppnådde flere seire (som miner og klasevåpen). Den "antiimperialistiske" delen av fredsbevegelsen ble derimot et ideologisk konkursbo. Lange utlegninger om "folkeretten" og fanatisk motstand mot USA ble standarden. Enkelte gikk så langt som å støtte islamister som kjempet mot USA med terror, mens de fleste brukte tid på å forklare hvordan det egentlig var USA og Vesten som var roten til alt ondt. Altså det vi idag kaller #westsplaining

Med den arabiske våren og borgerkrigen i Libya og Syria ramlet mesteparten av denne delen av fredsbevegelsen i grøfta. Fordi USA litt halvhjertet støttet opprørerne så kunne ikke "antiimperialistene" forstå det som noe annet amerikansk imperialisme. Russisk propaganda, spesielt RT, klarte å etablere seg som en alliert for dette synet, og idag sliter den samme bevegelsen med å forstå Ukraina.

Watching Western voices explain to colonized nations why any efforts toward independence are doomed to failure is jarring—especially when they come from white, European voices. But it’s of a type with a phenomenon that’s gained popularity in recent years: “#Westsplaining.” As Jan Smoleński and Jan Dutkiewicz explained in The New Republic earlier this year, this phenomenon sees “people from the Anglosphere loudly foisting their analytical schema and political prescriptions” on regions formerly colonized by Moscow. While Smoleński and Dutkiewicz focused primarily on Eastern Europe—and especially the Western voices telling Ukrainians to give up, to cede territory, and to return to Moscow’s embrace—it’s not difficult to extend this framing to those in Washington, London, and Paris who are suddenly explaining to those colonized nations that are still suffering under the Kremlin’s dictatorship why they have no choice but being tethered to Moscow, at least for decades to come.

https://newrepublic.com/article/169481/russia-ukraine-colonies-future-westsplaining

#DecolonizeRussia

«What #Ukraine Means for Lithuanians Haunted by #Soviet Past» Similar for Latvians & Estonians. #Baltics #Lithuania #Latvia #Estonia #Russia #Westsplaining 🇱🇹🇱🇻🇪🇪🇺🇦 https://newlinesmag.com/first-person/what-ukraine-means-for-lithuanians-haunted-by-soviet-past/

@nemobis

The two Wikipedia articles show strong consensus among historians that the VN invasion stopped the genocide. The ultimate consensus in the current case of military self-defence in UA may be in a few decades by historians.

I don't see how IT pacifists can refuse the right of Ukrainians (86%) [3] - of the invaded country - to choose the risk of death in order to restart human rights processes in the occupied territories.

Seems like #Westsplaining to me.

[3] https://www.kiis.com.ua/?cat=reports&id=1151

#RogerWaters' description of invasion of #Ukraine and UA political decision-making is almost completely inconsistent with [[WP:RS]]. True: arms producers have an interest in continuing war, but it's only one factor. What right does Waters have to impose a "peace" of torture and execution on Ukrainians in occupied UA? Why is he supporting RU's "red-line right" to a future invasion of PL+EE+LV+LT?

Arrogant #westsplaining .

Cancelling his PL concert is justified.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20220906032710/https://rogerwaters.com/open-letter-olena

@AI_GhanaGermany

You are an AI group who is sensitive to solidarity between rich/poor Amnesty sections. The legally dubious AI press release on Ukraine has led to AI UA head Oksana Polachuk resigning.

Should Callamard resign too?

lawyers Jordash+Mykytenko https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/columns/2022/08/5/7362086

RUSI researcher Watling + journalist Mutch
https://bylinetimes.com/2022/08/08/why-did-amnesty-international-ignore-my-warnings-about-their-ukraine-investigation

Kyiv Independent
https://kyivindependent.com/opinion/editorial-it-is-amnesty-internationals-report-that-endangers-ukrainian-civilians

Amnesty IS internal:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1555646138602201092.html

UA civil society:
https://www.change.org/p/to-the-board-of-amnesty-international-from-ukrainian-civil-society

#Westsplaining

@miosety

L'Obs prétend-t-il sérieusement qu'Oksana Pokalchuk [1] est trop bête pour comprendre l'obligation de l'UA à suivre le droit international humanitaire ? L'article a vraiment l'air de « ces pauvres orientaux trop émotionnels, même s'ils ont créé une section national d'Amnesty International, ont crié hystériquement sans rien comprendre ».

@angdraug @kravietz Amnesty: It seems like the reaction of « l'Obs » is #Westsplaining away "dumb hysterical orientals".

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oksana_Pokalchuk

@miosety

L'Obs n'a pas fait ses devoirs. La situation dans de l'#IHL (le droit international humanitaire) met fort en doute la validité juridique du rapport.

Avocats Jordash+Mykytenko : https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/columns/2022/08/5/7362086

Chercheur @RUSI Watling + journaliste Mutch :
https://bylinetimes.com/2022/08/08/why-did-amnesty-international-ignore-my-warnings-about-their-ukraine-investigation

Kyiv Independent :
https://kyivindependent.com/opinion/editorial-it-is-amnesty-internationals-report-that-endangers-ukrainian-civilians

En interne à Amnesty :
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1555646138602201092.html

C'est pourquoi les associations ukrainiennes demandent la démission de Callamard :

https://www.change.org/p/to-the-board-of-amnesty-international-from-ukrainian-civil-society

#WestSplaining

@angdraug @kravietz

"The West is so stuck on racist view of colonialism that they developed a massive blindspot ..."

But Amnesty is 28-years-African/South Asian dominated, not Western:

AI Secretary Generals:

* Pierre Sané/1992–2001 Senegal
* Irene Khan/2001–2010 Bangladesh
* Salil Shetty/2010–2018 India
* Kumi Naidoo/2018–2020 South Africa
* Julie Verhaar/2020–2021 (Acting)
* Agnès Callamard/2021–now France

#AfroSAsianSplaining, not #WestSplaining

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesty_International%23Structure

cc @nemobis

Rational, informed debate based on evidence, self-determination, political agency, #westsplaining [1], the role of counterfactuals. #Ukraine #Russia

Few seem to have noticed that the political agency of #Belarus ians has been mostly westsplained into non-existence.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westsplaining (deleted once; currently exists)

@zeitwerke @bad_immigrant

This needs another hashtag:

#westsplaining

@oklomsy You know, the Western theorists playing 3D chess with other people’s lives from the temporary safety of their ivory towers.

#westsplaining

@benni Aber warum frage ich eigentlich. Hab genug #westsplaining erfahren...