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目前有比較成熟，可以給非營利組織或社運、工會的人直接使用的
Polis+Sensemaker說明導覽和線上分析，如果遇到有需要廣泛傾聽、累積民意基礎或尋找罕見共識的人，可以分享這個網址出去~
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MetaPolis：下一個 vTaiwan Polis，由大家一起提案！
歡迎來到 MetaPolis 🌀
這是一個有點後設的意見徵集：
我們想用 Polis，來問大家下一個 Polis 應該討論什麼。台灣有很多正在發展中的公共議題，vTaiwan 希望把「開議題」的 agency 交給公眾，而不只是由社群內部決定。
你可以提出你覺得下一個 vTaiwan Polis 應該討論的題目，也可以對其他人的提案表示同意、不同意或不確定。
MetaPolis 會幫助我們看見：哪些議題能跨越不同背景與立場，得到更多共同支持。若形成清楚共識，vTaiwan 團隊會作為未來正式意見徵集的重要參考。
⚡️你最近看到什麼議題，覺得台灣社會應該一起好好討論？⚡️
把問題丟進來，讓大家一起判斷：
這會不會是近期 vTaiwan 應該開的題目？ -
未來台灣救災程序與資訊流通要如何改進呢？
邀請大家在回顧的時候把寶貴的意見留下來，讓未來應對災害應變的時候可以更好。這份意見徵集由vTaiwan社群發起，使用polis平台，可以忠實的陳列不同的觀點，並找到共同之處和分岐點，結果是公開透明的，也會交給學者專家與政府單位研究。
如果想進一步了解審議民主的數位工具以及相關的應用，歡迎造訪vTaiwan 網站。
花蓮救災爭議之後：未來台灣救災程序與資訊流通如何改進？——公民意見徵集：https://pol.is/4fxd6ehrfj
即時結果報告：
https://pol.is/report/r89seayfre3aha6vybrav認識vTaiwan：
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摘: "社群媒體的出現，讓大家，社群媒體早已成為我們日常交流、獲取資訊與發表意見的核心平台。然而，隨著用戶上傳內容的數量不斷成長，平台如何在維繫言論自由與防止有害資訊散布間達成平衡，早就成為一個需要解決的問題。
為了克服內容數量增長帶來的挑戰，近年來，AI 技術被大規模導入於內容審查與下架的流程中。然而這項做法固然提升了平台的效率，卻也引發了諸多爭議。AI 的決策是否公正？合法的內容與創作者是否容易被誤刪？而非法內容又為何總是能夠鑽漏洞逃過審查，出現在你我的社群媒體上？這些問題都與我們每個人息息相關，因此亟需社會共同討論，尋求最佳解方。
你認為平台應如何兼顧效率與文化多樣性？哪些內容建議優先由人工覆審？哪些可由 AI 快速處理？如何透明告知用戶 AI 如何審查、依據為何？如何讓被影響的使用者與審查工作者參與制定平台規範？
為了蒐集不同意見，我們將再次使用polis平台，讓大家可以「同意」或「不同意」彼此的看法。當然，我們也希望透過這樣的方式，客觀量化並快速呈現大家的觀點，為後續的政策討論提供參考。"
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<AI 時代下的民主>講稿全文 by Au
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摘：「今天，當我們談到「AI」，再談到「民主」，心中可能會浮現兩種非常不同的畫面。
一種是悲觀的。社群媒體的 AI 演算法，推送充滿對立、撕裂的言論，演算法把我們推進一個個同溫層，讓我們覺得對話越來越困難。我們彷彿看到民主正在被 AI「駭侵」。
但還有另一種畫面，一種樂觀的想像。在這裡，AI 不是製造分裂的武器，而是搭建橋樑的工具。它能幫助我們跨越差異，找到意想不到的共識，讓民主變得更真實、更有韌性。
很多人覺得，面對 AI 的快速發展，未來就像一輛只有油門和煞車的車。要嘛全力衝刺，奔向一個未知的「奇點」烏托邦；要嘛就是踩死煞車，因為害怕反烏托邦的到來。
但我們忽略了最重要的東西：方向盤。
https://sharing.ia.net/presenter/c56e976cd2184f41abc9bc909e42a788/view#/
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我們運用 Pol.is 的經驗，啟發了 Google Jigsaw 團隊，導入 AI 進行主題分類、自動綜整找出「罕見共識」，即將在全美 435 個國會選區全面啟用。
在 #vTaiwan 社群協力下，現在 Polis + SenseMaker 已經支援華文，搭配最近 OpenAI 開放的 gpt-oss-120b 模型，摘要與引文都能順暢呈現。
這篇報導整理得不錯，歡迎參考：
https://www.vivepostwave.com/google-jigsaw-ai-democracy-bg2050/
「…從小地方，找回大方向。回到台灣，則會發現 AI 民主治理，其實沒有離我們太遠。」
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我們運用 Pol.is 的經驗，啟發了 Google Jigsaw 團隊，導入 AI 進行主題分類、自動綜整找出「罕見共識」，即將在全美 435 個國會選區全面啟用。
在 #vTaiwan 社群協力下，現在 Polis + SenseMaker 已經支援華文，搭配最近 OpenAI 開放的 gpt-oss-120b 模型，摘要與引文都能順暢呈現。
這篇報導整理得不錯，歡迎參考：
https://www.vivepostwave.com/google-jigsaw-ai-democracy-bg2050/
「…從小地方，找回大方向。回到台灣，則會發現 AI 民主治理，其實沒有離我們太遠。」
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在應用 Jitsi as a Service 開發 vTaiwan 視訊會議平台時，我嘗試設計了一種「分軌轉錄」模式：與會者在開口前，先按下紫色麥克風鈕，主動決定這段話是否被記錄。這樣的設計帶來三個優點：
1️⃣ 自主掌控 — 每個人都能選擇要留下的內容，讓對話更自在、更符合當下意願。
2️⃣ 專注互動 — 開始轉錄時，全員更專心表達與傾聽，提升溝通品質。
3️⃣ 有意義的紀錄 — 每段被記錄的發言都更具價值與代表性。這種方式鼓勵參與、尊重隱私，也有助於建立更好的會議文化，是我希望持續探索與優化的方向。
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@ShiAnan 謝謝記錄vTawian議題小聚的活動，讓沒直接參與的人，也可以有臨場感大致瞭解發生的事情
「20250801 vTaiwan(用數位科技做審議討論)與合作夥伴財團法人台灣網路資訊中心共同舉辦議題小聚#3[面對網路詐騙哪些還沒做？]現場觀察共筆」
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為什麼政府要建 JOIN？為什麼我們還需要 vTaiwan？
🔵 JOIN 平台 是政府自 2015 推出的正式提案平台，由國發會維運，任何人提案、附議（達 5,000 人）後，主管機關就必須在 60 天內回應。
✅ 制度化流程、高可見性、參與門檻低
⚠️ 主導權在政府、附議後實質採納率偏低🟢 vTaiwan 則是公民社群主導的另一條路，用 Pol.is、實體會議與 AI 工具等，進行議題聚焦與深度審議
✅ 社群自主設定議程、強調共識與實驗精神
⚠️ 非制度化、需投入時間與專業資源JOIN 是由上而下的「制度參與」，
vTaiwan 是由下而上的「民主實驗」
兩者結合，形成台灣獨特的 hybrid 雙軌參與路徑——制度與創新、官方與民間，共同打造數位民主。🔗 JOIN: https://join.gov.tw/
🔗 vTaiwan: https://vtaiwan.tw/
🔗 vTaiwan新網站(開發中): https://vtaiwan.pages.dev/
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Learn how civic tech and new platforms can enhance political debate and influence policymaking.
#vTaiwan core member Cui Jia Wei will give an overview of the civic tech landscape in Taiwan, their tools and methods, and the social and political challenges they face.Sunday, April 14, 14:00 CET
Conference Link (will be activated before event): https://tinyurl.com/kddk-online
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Learn how civic tech and new platforms can enhance political debate and influence policymaking.
#vTaiwan core member Cui Jia Wei will give an overview of the civic tech landscape in Taiwan, their tools and methods, and the social and political challenges they face.Sunday, April 14, 14:00 CET
Conference Link (will be activated before event): https://tinyurl.com/kddk-online
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"On #vTaiwan, public discussions are held using a tool called Pol.is, which allows people to post statements that others can vote to agree or disagree with, and based on these responses, Pol.is creates #visualmaps that illustrate clusters of #consensus. (Direct replies aren’t allowed, to prevent trolling and abuse.) This visual structure gamifies the process of consensus building, incentivizing users to craft nuanced statements capable of breaking free of echo chambers."
https://increment.com/containers/containerization-case-study/ -
"On #vTaiwan, public discussions are held using a tool called Pol.is, which allows people to post statements that others can vote to agree or disagree with, and based on these responses, Pol.is creates #visualmaps that illustrate clusters of #consensus. (Direct replies aren’t allowed, to prevent trolling and abuse.) This visual structure gamifies the process of consensus building, incentivizing users to craft nuanced statements capable of breaking free of echo chambers."
https://increment.com/containers/containerization-case-study/ -
"In Dec/2014 Jaclyn Tsai attended a #g0v-sponsored hackathon and proposed the establishment of a neutral platform where various online communities could exchange policy ideas.
…g0v partnered with the government to start #vTaiwan in 2015:representatives from the public, private & social sectors to debate…#digitaleconomy policy."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/opinion/taiwan-digital-democracy.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cE0.24Fj.UrYCYH8DbK8e&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare -
"In Dec/2014 Jaclyn Tsai attended a #g0v-sponsored hackathon and proposed the establishment of a neutral platform where various online communities could exchange policy ideas.
…g0v partnered with the government to start #vTaiwan in 2015:representatives from the public, private & social sectors to debate…#digitaleconomy policy."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/opinion/taiwan-digital-democracy.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cE0.24Fj.UrYCYH8DbK8e&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare -
"The #vTaiwan process consists of four successive stages—proposal, opinion, reflection and legislation—supported by a selection of colloborative #opensource engagement tools.
And an interesting leading edge of vTaiwan development is the use of #3Dcameras in live-streamed #stakeholderdialogues to allow observers with appropriate apps to immerse themselves in #virtualreality representations of those conversations."
#TaiwanDemocracy
#Taiwan #ParticipativeDemocracy
https://info.vtaiwan.tw/#three -
"The #vTaiwan process consists of four successive stages—proposal, opinion, reflection and legislation—supported by a selection of colloborative #opensource engagement tools.
And an interesting leading edge of vTaiwan development is the use of #3Dcameras in live-streamed #stakeholderdialogues to allow observers with appropriate apps to immerse themselves in #virtualreality representations of those conversations."
#TaiwanDemocracy
#Taiwan #ParticipativeDemocracy
https://info.vtaiwan.tw/#three -
"The #vTaiwan process consists of four successive stages—proposal, opinion, reflection and legislation—supported by a selection of colloborative #opensource engagement tools.
And an interesting leading edge of vTaiwan development is the use of #3Dcameras in live-streamed #stakeholderdialogues to allow observers with appropriate apps to immerse themselves in #virtualreality representations of those conversations."
#TaiwanDemocracy
#Taiwan #ParticipativeDemocracy
https://info.vtaiwan.tw/#three -
"The #vTaiwan process consists of four successive stages—proposal, opinion, reflection and legislation—supported by a selection of colloborative #opensource engagement tools.
And an interesting leading edge of vTaiwan development is the use of #3Dcameras in live-streamed #stakeholderdialogues to allow observers with appropriate apps to immerse themselves in #virtualreality representations of those conversations."
#TaiwanDemocracy
#Taiwan #ParticipativeDemocracy
https://info.vtaiwan.tw/#three -
"The #vTaiwan process consists of four successive stages—proposal, opinion, reflection and legislation—supported by a selection of colloborative #opensource engagement tools.
And an interesting leading edge of vTaiwan development is the use of #3Dcameras in live-streamed #stakeholderdialogues to allow observers with appropriate apps to immerse themselves in #virtualreality representations of those conversations."
#TaiwanDemocracy
#Taiwan #ParticipativeDemocracy
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"As an open project, #vTaiwan attracts people from multiple disciplines including law makers, public servants, developers, designers, writers, researchers, journalists, film makers and much more.
The #vTaiwan process consists of four successive stages - proposal, opinion, reflection and legislation - supported by a selection of colloborative #opensource engagement tools."
#digitaldemocracy
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"As an open project, #vTaiwan attracts people from multiple disciplines including law makers, public servants, developers, designers, writers, researchers, journalists, film makers and much more.
The #vTaiwan process consists of four successive stages - proposal, opinion, reflection and legislation - supported by a selection of colloborative #opensource engagement tools."
#digitaldemocracy
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“Fostering deliberation would require platforms that encourage long-term and in-depth interaction with arguments and less 'communicative plenty'“
https://algorithmwatch.org/en/mastodon-public-sphere/
Fair comment. I do find that conversations on Discourse forums or Loomio groups are more likely to go deep, and lead to covergent outcomes, then even the most constructive chats here. I haven't used Pol.is, but I've read impressive things about its by #g0v for vTaiwan.
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“Fostering deliberation would require platforms that encourage long-term and in-depth interaction with arguments and less 'communicative plenty'“
https://algorithmwatch.org/en/mastodon-public-sphere/
Fair comment. I do find that conversations on Discourse forums or Loomio groups are more likely to go deep, and lead to covergent outcomes, then even the most constructive chats here. I haven't used Pol.is, but I've read impressive things about its by #g0v for vTaiwan.
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interesting experiment using AI #ChatGPT to analyze & summarize public comments. See also #Polis, which adds dimensions of statistical, discourse, deliberation analysis; used eg in #vTaiwan & Twitter
#CommunityNotes platforms: https://pol.is/home c/@[email protected] @aviv @Zittrain
https://twitter.com/rjacobus/status/1604880546751979520?s=46&t=odVoiw4Ub349bjoik94KCw -
interesting experiment using AI #ChatGPT to analyze & summarize public comments. See also #Polis, which adds dimensions of statistical, discourse, deliberation analysis; used eg in #vTaiwan & Twitter
#CommunityNotes platforms: https://pol.is/home c/@[email protected] @aviv @Zittrain
https://twitter.com/rjacobus/status/1604880546751979520?s=46&t=odVoiw4Ub349bjoik94KCw -
@pukkamustard This sounds a bit like the system implemented by Gov0 as part of vTaiwan. Can't think of the name off the top of my head, but there is some info about vTaiwan here:
https://info.vtaiwan.tw/I think it's the same system Scoop.co.nz implemented as "Hivemind".
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@lightweight have you looked into how vTaiwan works? As an alternative to pushing policy through political parties, it uses various tools - both online and offlne - to involve huge numbers of citizens in developing policy, and feeds its outputs directly into government Ministries:
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"A recent report from the #Stanford University School of Medicine documents 124 distinct [#COVID19] interventions that #Taiwan implemented with remarkable speed. Many of these interventions bubbled into the public sector through community initiatives, #hackathons, and digital deliberation on the #vTaiwan digital democracy platform, on which almost half the country’s population participates."
- #JaronLanier and #eGlenWeyl
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Taiwan designed a social network around building consensus so they could create laws people would agree on. Apparently it actually works.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50127713 #vtaiwan
@richdecibels has collected some links about how it works and the impact it's had: https://twitter.com/RichDecibels/status/1093024280613314560