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"I write speculative fiction sometimes, which can get weird. It's OK with me. I like weird.
Let's try a speculative scenario, something super weird.
Let's imagine that in a society just like ours, some foundational aspect of the streets was found to be harmful in a way that threatened everyone. Let's say for example that they had been built for individual personal vehicular transportation rather than highly scalable public transportation, and that this configuration created congestion and isolation and hazard, and made life increasingly difficult and dangerous for increasing numbers of people, and made ownership of individualized private vehicles a prerequisite for participating in society, which made cities far less livable and more difficult and dangerous to walk around in—and beyond that, the strain on non-renewable resources and the impacts on the environment that attended the consumption of those resources by these vehicles created effects that endangered the stability of all societies and the lives of everyone in those societies.
I warned you, I do sometimes come up with very weird fictional premises. Maybe that one is too far out there, too speculative. What if we made it something simpler, then: what if some part of all the streets, some chemical in their composition, were radioactive and deadly?
What then?
Well…if we valued the lives of people in our system, we'd need to replace those streets.
How many? All of them.
How far? To the furthest extent of the problem. To the very boundaries of the city. To the very foundations that create the hazard. In other words, the solution would require active, persistent, determined, informed, and transformative action.
At what cost? At whatever cost it took.
Otherwise, we'd have to accept that the streets would kill us, because we valued the money we would save by neglecting the streets rather than paying the cost to repair and enhance them more than we valued the lives of the human beings harmed by our harmful streets.
Right?
Like I said: obvious.
But hey, listen to this: What if we only fixed some of the streets? What if we only fixed the streets where most of the residents were deemed to be "white?" Or what if we—"unable to see color," but having inherited a system whereby those deemed "white" were more likely to own generational wealth, homes, and other property—only fixed the streets lined by houses of greater value?
That would work out, I suppose, provided you are someone wealthy enough to afford a valuable house, and provided the thought of your neighbors dying while you live is acceptable to your conscience.
But suppose human intentions are like streets. Suppose human intentions have a direction, too, and that living in a murderous system that is designed to see human life as disposable to financial convenience may become a problem for you tomorrow, if you are a human. Remember, every street has a destination. And no street ever reached its destination by accident. And a system that eats people will eat people.
But hey, listen to this wrinkle: Imagine in our scenario that most of the people want to fix the streets, but the city still refuses. What then?
I think we'd have to conclude that some portion of us are no longer what is meant when we say "the city decides." I think we'd have to conclude that the controls over our natural human system have been unnaturally stolen. We'd have to conclude that the problem of our radioactive streets is only the immediate problem, and that the larger undergirding problem is this: The way that our city makes decisions has been unnaturally misalligned, intentionally stolen.
We might call this theft "injustice."
Before we could reconfigure the streets, we'd have to reconfigure the means of configuration itself—the way the city decides. How far? To the furthest extent of the problem, to the very boundaries of the injustice, at whatever cost necessary. The solution would require active, persistent, determined, informed, and transformative action, aligned to a compass that views as its true North a justice founded in love—that is, a justice that ensures the inherent dignity, legal equality, and provision for basic human need, of all human beings, even those aligned against that compass setting. Or we'd have to accept that our unnaturally corrupted human system, designed to kill people for financial convenience, would kill us, if it ever became financially convenient for it to do so.
Right?
If the way the city decides has become as broken or useless or harmful as our hypothetically fatal streets, then our natural human system becomes potentially unable to solve problems—any problems. Our natural human system might even start to configure itself around a principle such as "government is the problem"—the idea that solving the problems of people isn't a suitable matter for cities to engage in. If our city is organized in such a way that it is unwilling to save people from death unless they are deemed worthy of life, then we are all vulnerable, not only to the problem of the streets, but to any danger that makes us unprofitable. This suggests that if we are people who wish to live, we will have to be willing to perform radical transformative structural reconfiguration, not only on our city, not only on the ways in which the city decides, but on our spirit itself—our foundational beliefs and assumptions—and not just in any direction, but in a direction that leads us toward inclusiveness, completeness, plurality, and equality. This suggests that, should I discover that the natural value delivery system in which I exist has been unnaturally stolen and corrupted, the greater danger is not in radical structural reconfiguration, but in refusing to pursue radical structural reconfiguration.
Remember, cancer and virus require only your silence. They'll do the rest.
What happens when a system that eats unvaluable people runs out of unvaluable people to eat? What happens when something changes dramatically, and you are suddenly less valuable?
If human intention is like a street, it will eventually reach its destination.
Eventually it will find you and me.
Let's try another speculative scenario.
Imagine a city dependent on precipitation, where a few people decided to capture all the rain. Imagine they built a series of gutters and downspouts and barrels and cisterns, so that when the rain fell on all the houses, they could divert most of it away from some of the people and bestow it to a select few others. Imagine a city comprised of islands of perfect lush green, swimming in a vast sea of blasted and parched and unnatural desert. Imagine a city that manufactured drought during a rainy season, and horded water in times of manufactured drought.
Imagine a city that recognized the intrinsic value that a collection of people naturally generates—inextricable, automatic, inherited, shared, invisible—where a few people decided to configure it to capture all that value for themselves, and then expected to be praised as the givers of water when they allowed a bit of it to trickle down. Imagine, if you can, a society founded on a series of unjust lies—an unnatural human configuration of our natural human system.
Suppose the founders of some hypothetical society had learned that they could maximize for themselves the foundational, generative value that is the natural output of human society, by stealing it away from millions of other humans, and giving it all to themselves. Suppose they did this by utilizing the idea that it was not only possible but desirable, not only desirable but righteous, for human beings to own other human beings as possessions; that ownership of property was the only valid channel for determining who should provide value to society, and who should receive it. Suppose they founded their society on the proposition that the Owners should be the only people within the society allowed to partake in the collective will of the human system the Owned had built, and to control all the value delivered, and to parcel value out to the Owned only to the exact extent to which such an allowance would profit the Owner.
I would suppose that such a society, founded on human enslavement, would always turn themselves, whatever their stated intentions, back toward slavery. I would suppose that people in such a society would believe, at the bedrock level of their assumptions, that some people have more value and others have less, or even none, or even a negative value. I would suppose that such a society would behave as if a person's value is a matter of power and wealth, and to lack power and wealth is to lack any value. I would suppose that such a society would conclude that for a valueless person to receive some value that diminished the profit they could provide an Owner would be considered a grotesque and offensive theft; and would eventually conclude that person who could not be used for profit had not earned life, represented theft, and had therefore earned death. I would suppose that such a society would believe the violence of neglect or the violence of brutality to be an acceptable way to redeem such a debt against such a valueless thief.
And then that society would configure itself to control and harm valueless people. You'd know this was the configuration of this society, no matter what individuals within that society said their individual intentions were, because this society would control and harm people, and justify it on a metric of cost and profit. And those with access to the power to change this configuration would not do the work of reconfiguration, which would reveal their deepest intentions.
And they might even configure their streets and roads so that the value of transportation was maximally available to those who could afford increasingly expensive personal vehicles, and almost non-existent for those who couldn't. And they might defend and expand this configuration, even when it became clear that this configuration made cities and towns far more inhospitable and dangerous to people, even once it became clear that the operation of these personal vehicles was a major factor in a global threat to all of their lives.
Oh man. I'm back to the same extremely unbelievable scenario as before. My friends will tell you I do that sometimes. Maybe this all seems too far-fetched to you. As I said, I write speculative fiction, which often requires a real stretch of the imagination."
— A. R. Moxon: Very Fine People, pp. 143-149
#Books #Quotes #ARMoxon #VeryFinePeople #Streets #Cities #Societies #SpeculativeFiction
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"It has to be admitted, people responded to Trump for what he is. Which means we are left with the statements and proposals by which he distinguished himself. And millions of us—tens of millions—preferred him specifically for those points of difference, either excited by his promises to return us to a time when our system existed only for the benefit of certain people, and the preferences and needs of all others were beneath consideration, or at least willing to overlook those promises, in favor of some material or policy advantage.
And ultimately, the reason is immaterial. A man ran for president promising to use the power of the state to bring violence to scapegoated religious and ethnic minorities, to make America torture again, to make it easier for an already-militarized police force to employ violence, who praised dictators, who bragged about sexual assault, who praised vengeance as good, who promoted debunked conspiracy as fact, who stated his determination to ignore as conspiracy what the data overwhelmingly indicates is an oncoming global catastrophe. There was some other reason to vote for him, that allowed you to overlook these facts?
Save it, please. It really doesn't matter. It was a bad reason. We’ve seen this movie before.
Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed. That word is "Nazi." Historians study their motives, but there is a broad understanding: their motives don’t exonerate them. They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?"
— A. R. Moxon: Very Fine People, pp. 31-32
Read "Sky" by @[email protected] here:
#VeryFinePeople #Books #TheReframe #Essays #USpol #USA #Fascism
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"It has to be admitted, people responded to Trump for what he is. Which means we are left with the statements and proposals by which he distinguished himself. And millions of us—tens of millions—preferred him specifically for those points of difference, either excited by his promises to return us to a time when our system existed only for the benefit of certain people, and the preferences and needs of all others were beneath consideration, or at least willing to overlook those promises, in favor of some material or policy advantage.
And ultimately, the reason is immaterial. A man ran for president promising to use the power of the state to bring violence to scapegoated religious and ethnic minorities, to make America torture again, to make it easier for an already-militarized police force to employ violence, who praised dictators, who bragged about sexual assault, who praised vengeance as good, who promoted debunked conspiracy as fact, who stated his determination to ignore as conspiracy what the data overwhelmingly indicates is an oncoming global catastrophe. There was some other reason to vote for him, that allowed you to overlook these facts?
Save it, please. It really doesn't matter. It was a bad reason. We’ve seen this movie before.
Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed. That word is "Nazi." Historians study their motives, but there is a broad understanding: their motives don’t exonerate them. They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?"
— A. R. Moxon: Very Fine People, pp. 31-32
Read "Sky" by @[email protected] here:
#VeryFinePeople #Books #TheReframe #Essays #USpol #USA #Fascism
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"It has to be admitted, people responded to Trump for what he is. Which means we are left with the statements and proposals by which he distinguished himself. And millions of us—tens of millions—preferred him specifically for those points of difference, either excited by his promises to return us to a time when our system existed only for the benefit of certain people, and the preferences and needs of all others were beneath consideration, or at least willing to overlook those promises, in favor of some material or policy advantage.
And ultimately, the reason is immaterial. A man ran for president promising to use the power of the state to bring violence to scapegoated religious and ethnic minorities, to make America torture again, to make it easier for an already-militarized police force to employ violence, who praised dictators, who bragged about sexual assault, who praised vengeance as good, who promoted debunked conspiracy as fact, who stated his determination to ignore as conspiracy what the data overwhelmingly indicates is an oncoming global catastrophe. There was some other reason to vote for him, that allowed you to overlook these facts?
Save it, please. It really doesn't matter. It was a bad reason. We’ve seen this movie before.
Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed. That word is "Nazi." Historians study their motives, but there is a broad understanding: their motives don’t exonerate them. They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?"
— A. R. Moxon: Very Fine People, pp. 31-32
Read "Sky" by @[email protected] here:
#VeryFinePeople #Books #TheReframe #Essays #USpol #USA #Fascism
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"It has to be admitted, people responded to Trump for what he is. Which means we are left with the statements and proposals by which he distinguished himself. And millions of us—tens of millions—preferred him specifically for those points of difference, either excited by his promises to return us to a time when our system existed only for the benefit of certain people, and the preferences and needs of all others were beneath consideration, or at least willing to overlook those promises, in favor of some material or policy advantage.
And ultimately, the reason is immaterial. A man ran for president promising to use the power of the state to bring violence to scapegoated religious and ethnic minorities, to make America torture again, to make it easier for an already-militarized police force to employ violence, who praised dictators, who bragged about sexual assault, who praised vengeance as good, who promoted debunked conspiracy as fact, who stated his determination to ignore as conspiracy what the data overwhelmingly indicates is an oncoming global catastrophe. There was some other reason to vote for him, that allowed you to overlook these facts?
Save it, please. It really doesn't matter. It was a bad reason. We’ve seen this movie before.
Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed. That word is "Nazi." Historians study their motives, but there is a broad understanding: their motives don’t exonerate them. They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?"
— A. R. Moxon: Very Fine People, pp. 31-32
Read "Sky" by @[email protected] here:
#VeryFinePeople #Books #TheReframe #Essays #USpol #USA #Fascism
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"It has to be admitted, people responded to Trump for what he is. Which means we are left with the statements and proposals by which he distinguished himself. And millions of us—tens of millions—preferred him specifically for those points of difference, either excited by his promises to return us to a time when our system existed only for the benefit of certain people, and the preferences and needs of all others were beneath consideration, or at least willing to overlook those promises, in favor of some material or policy advantage.
And ultimately, the reason is immaterial. A man ran for president promising to use the power of the state to bring violence to scapegoated religious and ethnic minorities, to make America torture again, to make it easier for an already-militarized police force to employ violence, who praised dictators, who bragged about sexual assault, who praised vengeance as good, who promoted debunked conspiracy as fact, who stated his determination to ignore as conspiracy what the data overwhelmingly indicates is an oncoming global catastrophe. There was some other reason to vote for him, that allowed you to overlook these facts?
Save it, please. It really doesn't matter. It was a bad reason. We’ve seen this movie before.
Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed. That word is "Nazi." Historians study their motives, but there is a broad understanding: their motives don’t exonerate them. They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?"
— A. R. Moxon: Very Fine People, pp. 31-32
Read "Sky" by @[email protected] here:
#VeryFinePeople #Books #TheReframe #Essays #USpol #USA #Fascism
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#NeoNazi group ‘actively seeking to grow in #US’ with planned #paramilitary training event
#TheBase is emerging from shadows and ramping up its ranks as White House turns blind eye to the far right
Ben Makuch, Sat 7 Jun 2025
"An international neo-Nazi terrorist organization is boldly continuing to build in the US and planning a new paramilitary training event without fear of local authorities or the FBI, which once dismantled it in a nationwide effort.
"The Base, founded in 2018 by a former Pentagon contractor living in #Russia and now suspected of Kremlin-sponsored espionage, once boasted close to 50 stateside members before the bureau made more than a dozen arrests in a years-long counter-terrorism operation.
"But since the presidential election campaign last year and what many then believed to be a surefire victory for Donald Trump, the Base saw an opportunity in a potential administration uninterested in policing #WhiteSupremacy and went about ramping up its ranks.
"Now, the Base has a presence in #Ukraine, performing #sabotage operations inside the country against the embattled government, and new and dangerous cells emerging across Europe, and it appears to be growing in the US, where the FBI under the #Maga acolyte #KashPatel has signalled it isn’t prioritizing investigations of #FarRightExtremism.
"In its early history, part of what first piqued the interest of authorities was the Base’s courting of military veterans who could help drill its foot soldiers in a series of training camps across the US. Eventually implicated in an assassination plot, mass shootings and other actions in Europe, the Base went so far as to have a fortified compound and cell in #Michigan, led by a US army dropout.
"Online evidence from its various accounts, several of which live on #RussianServers to avoid censorship on American sites, shows the Base has real plans for a national gathering this summer where members intend to train in paramilitary drills as in years past.
" 'The Base in [the] USA is preparing for an upcoming national training event,' reads one of its recent posts soliciting crypto donations. 'This one might be our most attended training event in [the] USA in a while. We could really use some financial support to help our members with travel expenses.'
"The post continued: 'When you donate money to the Base, you’re investing in a #WhiteDefenseForce that’s aiming to protect white people from political persecution and physical destruction.'
"The Base then published a new photo of armed members claiming to be in the #midwest, which follows a trend in 2025 of the group bragging about its unafraid American presence. As a sort of taunt to its enemies, on the day of Trump’s inauguration the Base released a photo of four members somewhere in Appalachia, in what was the largest number of American members in one photo in over a year.
" 'The upcoming national training event indicates that the group is seeking to grow and is willing to take the risk of advertising it publicly in advance,' said Joshua Fisher-Birch, an analyst of #FarRightTerrorism who has been following the Base’s movements for close to a decade. 'The Base appears to be actively seeking to grow in the US.'
"Fisher-Birch notes that even if the gathering involves 'fewer than 20 people', it is by no means 'low profile' and suggests the group sees momentum is on its side.
" 'An event entails planning, coordination, travel and face-to-face meetings between different regional groups, indicating that they operate in an environment where they view the potential amount of risk as acceptable,' he said. 'The group has previously stated multiple times that being a member or training with them is a risky endeavor; however, planning a meetup, which they will inevitably use for propaganda purposes, is a different approach than even a year ago, when the group advertised regional activities.'
"In response to queries about the Base’s latest movements, the FBI told the Guardian that it only investigates people who have or are planning to commit a federal crime and pose 'a threat to national security'." [Of course Patel's FBI won't take action against #VeryFinePeople!]
Read more:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/07/the-base-neo-nazi-group-paramilitary-training#USPol #NeoNazis #RightWing
#nsn #nazisnitchnetwork #nazisooknetwork #NationalSocialistNetwork #bigots
#hypocrites #fascists #alerta #Ukraine #Russia #USnews #Race #FBI #Fascists #Nazis #FuckNazis #NoPlaceForHate -
#NeoNazi group ‘actively seeking to grow in #US’ with planned #paramilitary training event
#TheBase is emerging from shadows and ramping up its ranks as White House turns blind eye to the far right
Ben Makuch, Sat 7 Jun 2025
"An international neo-Nazi terrorist organization is boldly continuing to build in the US and planning a new paramilitary training event without fear of local authorities or the FBI, which once dismantled it in a nationwide effort.
"The Base, founded in 2018 by a former Pentagon contractor living in #Russia and now suspected of Kremlin-sponsored espionage, once boasted close to 50 stateside members before the bureau made more than a dozen arrests in a years-long counter-terrorism operation.
"But since the presidential election campaign last year and what many then believed to be a surefire victory for Donald Trump, the Base saw an opportunity in a potential administration uninterested in policing #WhiteSupremacy and went about ramping up its ranks.
"Now, the Base has a presence in #Ukraine, performing #sabotage operations inside the country against the embattled government, and new and dangerous cells emerging across Europe, and it appears to be growing in the US, where the FBI under the #Maga acolyte #KashPatel has signalled it isn’t prioritizing investigations of #FarRightExtremism.
"In its early history, part of what first piqued the interest of authorities was the Base’s courting of military veterans who could help drill its foot soldiers in a series of training camps across the US. Eventually implicated in an assassination plot, mass shootings and other actions in Europe, the Base went so far as to have a fortified compound and cell in #Michigan, led by a US army dropout.
"Online evidence from its various accounts, several of which live on #RussianServers to avoid censorship on American sites, shows the Base has real plans for a national gathering this summer where members intend to train in paramilitary drills as in years past.
" 'The Base in [the] USA is preparing for an upcoming national training event,' reads one of its recent posts soliciting crypto donations. 'This one might be our most attended training event in [the] USA in a while. We could really use some financial support to help our members with travel expenses.'
"The post continued: 'When you donate money to the Base, you’re investing in a #WhiteDefenseForce that’s aiming to protect white people from political persecution and physical destruction.'
"The Base then published a new photo of armed members claiming to be in the #midwest, which follows a trend in 2025 of the group bragging about its unafraid American presence. As a sort of taunt to its enemies, on the day of Trump’s inauguration the Base released a photo of four members somewhere in Appalachia, in what was the largest number of American members in one photo in over a year.
" 'The upcoming national training event indicates that the group is seeking to grow and is willing to take the risk of advertising it publicly in advance,' said Joshua Fisher-Birch, an analyst of #FarRightTerrorism who has been following the Base’s movements for close to a decade. 'The Base appears to be actively seeking to grow in the US.'
"Fisher-Birch notes that even if the gathering involves 'fewer than 20 people', it is by no means 'low profile' and suggests the group sees momentum is on its side.
" 'An event entails planning, coordination, travel and face-to-face meetings between different regional groups, indicating that they operate in an environment where they view the potential amount of risk as acceptable,' he said. 'The group has previously stated multiple times that being a member or training with them is a risky endeavor; however, planning a meetup, which they will inevitably use for propaganda purposes, is a different approach than even a year ago, when the group advertised regional activities.'
"In response to queries about the Base’s latest movements, the FBI told the Guardian that it only investigates people who have or are planning to commit a federal crime and pose 'a threat to national security'." [Of course Patel's FBI won't take action against #VeryFinePeople!]
Read more:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/07/the-base-neo-nazi-group-paramilitary-training#USPol #NeoNazis #RightWing
#nsn #nazisnitchnetwork #nazisooknetwork #NationalSocialistNetwork #bigots
#hypocrites #fascists #alerta #Ukraine #Russia #USnews #Race #FBI #Fascists #Nazis #FuckNazis #NoPlaceForHate -
#NeoNazi group ‘actively seeking to grow in #US’ with planned #paramilitary training event
#TheBase is emerging from shadows and ramping up its ranks as White House turns blind eye to the far right
Ben Makuch, Sat 7 Jun 2025
"An international neo-Nazi terrorist organization is boldly continuing to build in the US and planning a new paramilitary training event without fear of local authorities or the FBI, which once dismantled it in a nationwide effort.
"The Base, founded in 2018 by a former Pentagon contractor living in #Russia and now suspected of Kremlin-sponsored espionage, once boasted close to 50 stateside members before the bureau made more than a dozen arrests in a years-long counter-terrorism operation.
"But since the presidential election campaign last year and what many then believed to be a surefire victory for Donald Trump, the Base saw an opportunity in a potential administration uninterested in policing #WhiteSupremacy and went about ramping up its ranks.
"Now, the Base has a presence in #Ukraine, performing #sabotage operations inside the country against the embattled government, and new and dangerous cells emerging across Europe, and it appears to be growing in the US, where the FBI under the #Maga acolyte #KashPatel has signalled it isn’t prioritizing investigations of #FarRightExtremism.
"In its early history, part of what first piqued the interest of authorities was the Base’s courting of military veterans who could help drill its foot soldiers in a series of training camps across the US. Eventually implicated in an assassination plot, mass shootings and other actions in Europe, the Base went so far as to have a fortified compound and cell in #Michigan, led by a US army dropout.
"Online evidence from its various accounts, several of which live on #RussianServers to avoid censorship on American sites, shows the Base has real plans for a national gathering this summer where members intend to train in paramilitary drills as in years past.
" 'The Base in [the] USA is preparing for an upcoming national training event,' reads one of its recent posts soliciting crypto donations. 'This one might be our most attended training event in [the] USA in a while. We could really use some financial support to help our members with travel expenses.'
"The post continued: 'When you donate money to the Base, you’re investing in a #WhiteDefenseForce that’s aiming to protect white people from political persecution and physical destruction.'
"The Base then published a new photo of armed members claiming to be in the #midwest, which follows a trend in 2025 of the group bragging about its unafraid American presence. As a sort of taunt to its enemies, on the day of Trump’s inauguration the Base released a photo of four members somewhere in Appalachia, in what was the largest number of American members in one photo in over a year.
" 'The upcoming national training event indicates that the group is seeking to grow and is willing to take the risk of advertising it publicly in advance,' said Joshua Fisher-Birch, an analyst of #FarRightTerrorism who has been following the Base’s movements for close to a decade. 'The Base appears to be actively seeking to grow in the US.'
"Fisher-Birch notes that even if the gathering involves 'fewer than 20 people', it is by no means 'low profile' and suggests the group sees momentum is on its side.
" 'An event entails planning, coordination, travel and face-to-face meetings between different regional groups, indicating that they operate in an environment where they view the potential amount of risk as acceptable,' he said. 'The group has previously stated multiple times that being a member or training with them is a risky endeavor; however, planning a meetup, which they will inevitably use for propaganda purposes, is a different approach than even a year ago, when the group advertised regional activities.'
"In response to queries about the Base’s latest movements, the FBI told the Guardian that it only investigates people who have or are planning to commit a federal crime and pose 'a threat to national security'." [Of course Patel's FBI won't take action against #VeryFinePeople!]
Read more:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/07/the-base-neo-nazi-group-paramilitary-training#USPol #NeoNazis #RightWing
#nsn #nazisnitchnetwork #nazisooknetwork #NationalSocialistNetwork #bigots
#hypocrites #fascists #alerta #Ukraine #Russia #USnews #Race #FBI #Fascists #Nazis #FuckNazis #NoPlaceForHate -
#NeoNazi group ‘actively seeking to grow in #US’ with planned #paramilitary training event
#TheBase is emerging from shadows and ramping up its ranks as White House turns blind eye to the far right
Ben Makuch, Sat 7 Jun 2025
"An international neo-Nazi terrorist organization is boldly continuing to build in the US and planning a new paramilitary training event without fear of local authorities or the FBI, which once dismantled it in a nationwide effort.
"The Base, founded in 2018 by a former Pentagon contractor living in #Russia and now suspected of Kremlin-sponsored espionage, once boasted close to 50 stateside members before the bureau made more than a dozen arrests in a years-long counter-terrorism operation.
"But since the presidential election campaign last year and what many then believed to be a surefire victory for Donald Trump, the Base saw an opportunity in a potential administration uninterested in policing #WhiteSupremacy and went about ramping up its ranks.
"Now, the Base has a presence in #Ukraine, performing #sabotage operations inside the country against the embattled government, and new and dangerous cells emerging across Europe, and it appears to be growing in the US, where the FBI under the #Maga acolyte #KashPatel has signalled it isn’t prioritizing investigations of #FarRightExtremism.
"In its early history, part of what first piqued the interest of authorities was the Base’s courting of military veterans who could help drill its foot soldiers in a series of training camps across the US. Eventually implicated in an assassination plot, mass shootings and other actions in Europe, the Base went so far as to have a fortified compound and cell in #Michigan, led by a US army dropout.
"Online evidence from its various accounts, several of which live on #RussianServers to avoid censorship on American sites, shows the Base has real plans for a national gathering this summer where members intend to train in paramilitary drills as in years past.
" 'The Base in [the] USA is preparing for an upcoming national training event,' reads one of its recent posts soliciting crypto donations. 'This one might be our most attended training event in [the] USA in a while. We could really use some financial support to help our members with travel expenses.'
"The post continued: 'When you donate money to the Base, you’re investing in a #WhiteDefenseForce that’s aiming to protect white people from political persecution and physical destruction.'
"The Base then published a new photo of armed members claiming to be in the #midwest, which follows a trend in 2025 of the group bragging about its unafraid American presence. As a sort of taunt to its enemies, on the day of Trump’s inauguration the Base released a photo of four members somewhere in Appalachia, in what was the largest number of American members in one photo in over a year.
" 'The upcoming national training event indicates that the group is seeking to grow and is willing to take the risk of advertising it publicly in advance,' said Joshua Fisher-Birch, an analyst of #FarRightTerrorism who has been following the Base’s movements for close to a decade. 'The Base appears to be actively seeking to grow in the US.'
"Fisher-Birch notes that even if the gathering involves 'fewer than 20 people', it is by no means 'low profile' and suggests the group sees momentum is on its side.
" 'An event entails planning, coordination, travel and face-to-face meetings between different regional groups, indicating that they operate in an environment where they view the potential amount of risk as acceptable,' he said. 'The group has previously stated multiple times that being a member or training with them is a risky endeavor; however, planning a meetup, which they will inevitably use for propaganda purposes, is a different approach than even a year ago, when the group advertised regional activities.'
"In response to queries about the Base’s latest movements, the FBI told the Guardian that it only investigates people who have or are planning to commit a federal crime and pose 'a threat to national security'." [Of course Patel's FBI won't take action against #VeryFinePeople!]
Read more:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/07/the-base-neo-nazi-group-paramilitary-training#USPol #NeoNazis #RightWing
#nsn #nazisnitchnetwork #nazisooknetwork #NationalSocialistNetwork #bigots
#hypocrites #fascists #alerta #Ukraine #Russia #USnews #Race #FBI #Fascists #Nazis #FuckNazis #NoPlaceForHate -
#NeoNazi group ‘actively seeking to grow in #US’ with planned #paramilitary training event
#TheBase is emerging from shadows and ramping up its ranks as White House turns blind eye to the far right
Ben Makuch, Sat 7 Jun 2025
"An international neo-Nazi terrorist organization is boldly continuing to build in the US and planning a new paramilitary training event without fear of local authorities or the FBI, which once dismantled it in a nationwide effort.
"The Base, founded in 2018 by a former Pentagon contractor living in #Russia and now suspected of Kremlin-sponsored espionage, once boasted close to 50 stateside members before the bureau made more than a dozen arrests in a years-long counter-terrorism operation.
"But since the presidential election campaign last year and what many then believed to be a surefire victory for Donald Trump, the Base saw an opportunity in a potential administration uninterested in policing #WhiteSupremacy and went about ramping up its ranks.
"Now, the Base has a presence in #Ukraine, performing #sabotage operations inside the country against the embattled government, and new and dangerous cells emerging across Europe, and it appears to be growing in the US, where the FBI under the #Maga acolyte #KashPatel has signalled it isn’t prioritizing investigations of #FarRightExtremism.
"In its early history, part of what first piqued the interest of authorities was the Base’s courting of military veterans who could help drill its foot soldiers in a series of training camps across the US. Eventually implicated in an assassination plot, mass shootings and other actions in Europe, the Base went so far as to have a fortified compound and cell in #Michigan, led by a US army dropout.
"Online evidence from its various accounts, several of which live on #RussianServers to avoid censorship on American sites, shows the Base has real plans for a national gathering this summer where members intend to train in paramilitary drills as in years past.
" 'The Base in [the] USA is preparing for an upcoming national training event,' reads one of its recent posts soliciting crypto donations. 'This one might be our most attended training event in [the] USA in a while. We could really use some financial support to help our members with travel expenses.'
"The post continued: 'When you donate money to the Base, you’re investing in a #WhiteDefenseForce that’s aiming to protect white people from political persecution and physical destruction.'
"The Base then published a new photo of armed members claiming to be in the #midwest, which follows a trend in 2025 of the group bragging about its unafraid American presence. As a sort of taunt to its enemies, on the day of Trump’s inauguration the Base released a photo of four members somewhere in Appalachia, in what was the largest number of American members in one photo in over a year.
" 'The upcoming national training event indicates that the group is seeking to grow and is willing to take the risk of advertising it publicly in advance,' said Joshua Fisher-Birch, an analyst of #FarRightTerrorism who has been following the Base’s movements for close to a decade. 'The Base appears to be actively seeking to grow in the US.'
"Fisher-Birch notes that even if the gathering involves 'fewer than 20 people', it is by no means 'low profile' and suggests the group sees momentum is on its side.
" 'An event entails planning, coordination, travel and face-to-face meetings between different regional groups, indicating that they operate in an environment where they view the potential amount of risk as acceptable,' he said. 'The group has previously stated multiple times that being a member or training with them is a risky endeavor; however, planning a meetup, which they will inevitably use for propaganda purposes, is a different approach than even a year ago, when the group advertised regional activities.'
"In response to queries about the Base’s latest movements, the FBI told the Guardian that it only investigates people who have or are planning to commit a federal crime and pose 'a threat to national security'." [Of course Patel's FBI won't take action against #VeryFinePeople!]
Read more:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/07/the-base-neo-nazi-group-paramilitary-training#USPol #NeoNazis #RightWing
#nsn #nazisnitchnetwork #nazisooknetwork #NationalSocialistNetwork #bigots
#hypocrites #fascists #alerta #Ukraine #Russia #USnews #Race #FBI #Fascists #Nazis #FuckNazis #NoPlaceForHate -
#Tucker Asshole and #JDVance are engaging in some pathetic fan-fiction in which they fantasize about the left behaving the way the right actually has a history of behaving. It's really bizarre.
#TuckerIsANazi #TuckerIsAShitbag #IWouldntPissOnTuckerIfHeWasOnFire #ProfessionalLiar #VanceFucksCouches #VanceIsAlsoANazi #RememberJan6 #RememberCharlottesville #VeryFinePeople #WhiteNationalists #whiteSupremacy #TuckerVacationsAtAuschwitz #ActualNazis
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#Tucker Asshole and #JDVance are engaging in some pathetic fan-fiction in which they fantasize about the left behaving the way the right actually has a history of behaving. It's really bizarre.
#TuckerIsANazi #TuckerIsAShitbag #IWouldntPissOnTuckerIfHeWasOnFire #ProfessionalLiar #VanceFucksCouches #VanceIsAlsoANazi #RememberJan6 #RememberCharlottesville #VeryFinePeople #WhiteNationalists #whiteSupremacy #TuckerVacationsAtAuschwitz #ActualNazis
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#Tucker Asshole and #JDVance are engaging in some pathetic fan-fiction in which they fantasize about the left behaving the way the right actually has a history of behaving. It's really bizarre.
#TuckerIsANazi #TuckerIsAShitbag #IWouldntPissOnTuckerIfHeWasOnFire #ProfessionalLiar #VanceFucksCouches #VanceIsAlsoANazi #RememberJan6 #RememberCharlottesville #VeryFinePeople #WhiteNationalists #whiteSupremacy #TuckerVacationsAtAuschwitz #ActualNazis
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#Tucker Asshole and #JDVance are engaging in some pathetic fan-fiction in which they fantasize about the left behaving the way the right actually has a history of behaving. It's really bizarre.
#TuckerIsANazi #TuckerIsAShitbag #IWouldntPissOnTuckerIfHeWasOnFire #ProfessionalLiar #VanceFucksCouches #VanceIsAlsoANazi #RememberJan6 #RememberCharlottesville #VeryFinePeople #WhiteNationalists #whiteSupremacy #TuckerVacationsAtAuschwitz #ActualNazis
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#Tucker Asshole and #JDVance are engaging in some pathetic fan-fiction in which they fantasize about the left behaving the way the right actually has a history of behaving. It's really bizarre.
#TuckerIsANazi #TuckerIsAShitbag #IWouldntPissOnTuckerIfHeWasOnFire #ProfessionalLiar #VanceFucksCouches #VanceIsAlsoANazi #RememberJan6 #RememberCharlottesville #VeryFinePeople #WhiteNationalists #whiteSupremacy #TuckerVacationsAtAuschwitz #ActualNazis
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"It’s not that fucking hard! Either you welcome Nazis and make common cause with them or you do not. And if you do the former, you’re not a 'very fine person, and anyone who calls you that is just as shitty of a person as you are."
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"It’s not that fucking hard! Either you welcome Nazis and make common cause with them or you do not. And if you do the former, you’re not a 'very fine person, and anyone who calls you that is just as shitty of a person as you are."
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They say this is the same as keeping Rosa Parks’ bus. But I can’t find these #VeryFinePeople in the Unite the Right rally. I feel like I’m being gaslit, that these people feel justified because Snopes supports them. But I saw the press conference live. Am I misremembering? #Charlottesville #USPol 2/2
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They say this is the same as keeping Rosa Parks’ bus. But I can’t find these #VeryFinePeople in the Unite the Right rally. I feel like I’m being gaslit, that these people feel justified because Snopes supports them. But I saw the press conference live. Am I misremembering? #Charlottesville #USPol 2/2
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They say this is the same as keeping Rosa Parks’ bus. But I can’t find these #VeryFinePeople in the Unite the Right rally. I feel like I’m being gaslit, that these people feel justified because Snopes supports them. But I saw the press conference live. Am I misremembering? #Charlottesville #USPol 2/2
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They say this is the same as keeping Rosa Parks’ bus. But I can’t find these #VeryFinePeople in the Unite the Right rally. I feel like I’m being gaslit, that these people feel justified because Snopes supports them. But I saw the press conference live. Am I misremembering? #Charlottesville #USPol 2/2
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They say this is the same as keeping Rosa Parks’ bus. But I can’t find these #VeryFinePeople in the Unite the Right rally. I feel like I’m being gaslit, that these people feel justified because Snopes supports them. But I saw the press conference live. Am I misremembering? #Charlottesville #USPol 2/2
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Meanwhile, over at The Reframe, @JuliusGoat has solved his funding issues. All he had to do was straighten out some Very Fine Facts. In fact, these are the Very Best Facts, the most factiest facts that were ever facted.
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Meanwhile, over at The Reframe, @JuliusGoat has solved his funding issues. All he had to do was straighten out some Very Fine Facts. In fact, these are the Very Best Facts, the most factiest facts that were ever facted.
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Meanwhile, over at The Reframe, @JuliusGoat has solved his funding issues. All he had to do was straighten out some Very Fine Facts. In fact, these are the Very Best Facts, the most factiest facts that were ever facted.
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Meanwhile, over at The Reframe, @JuliusGoat has solved his funding issues. All he had to do was straighten out some Very Fine Facts. In fact, these are the Very Best Facts, the most factiest facts that were ever facted.
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Meanwhile, over at The Reframe, @JuliusGoat has solved his funding issues. All he had to do was straighten out some Very Fine Facts. In fact, these are the Very Best Facts, the most factiest facts that were ever facted.
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shocking scenes at #trump rally... very fine people on both sides though
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shocking scenes at #trump rally... very fine people on both sides though
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shocking scenes at #trump rally... very fine people on both sides though
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shocking scenes at #trump rally... very fine people on both sides though
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shocking scenes at #trump rally... very fine people on both sides though
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#Trump posted a deceptive video, falsely claiming #JakeTapper "debunked" his #VeryFinePeople comment
Trump posted a deceptively edited 7 sec video that omits key portions of Tapper's remarks.
Trump’s post claimed:
"Even Jake Tapper DEBUNKED the "very fine poeple" HOAX that Crooked Joe totally lied about moments ago”Tapper did no such thing.
The video posted by Trump comes from an April 2019 CNN segment. In Trump's edited version, Trump even cut into the word "people.”1/
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#Trump posted a deceptive video, falsely claiming #JakeTapper "debunked" his #VeryFinePeople comment
Trump posted a deceptively edited 7 sec video that omits key portions of Tapper's remarks.
Trump’s post claimed:
"Even Jake Tapper DEBUNKED the "very fine poeple" HOAX that Crooked Joe totally lied about moments ago”Tapper did no such thing.
The video posted by Trump comes from an April 2019 CNN segment. In Trump's edited version, Trump even cut into the word "people.”1/
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#Trump posted a deceptive video, falsely claiming #JakeTapper "debunked" his #VeryFinePeople comment
Trump posted a deceptively edited 7 sec video that omits key portions of Tapper's remarks.
Trump’s post claimed:
"Even Jake Tapper DEBUNKED the "very fine poeple" HOAX that Crooked Joe totally lied about moments ago”Tapper did no such thing.
The video posted by Trump comes from an April 2019 CNN segment. In Trump's edited version, Trump even cut into the word "people.”1/
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#Trump posted a deceptive video, falsely claiming #JakeTapper "debunked" his #VeryFinePeople comment
Trump posted a deceptively edited 7 sec video that omits key portions of Tapper's remarks.
Trump’s post claimed:
"Even Jake Tapper DEBUNKED the "very fine poeple" HOAX that Crooked Joe totally lied about moments ago”Tapper did no such thing.
The video posted by Trump comes from an April 2019 CNN segment. In Trump's edited version, Trump even cut into the word "people.”1/
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#Trump posted a deceptive video, falsely claiming #JakeTapper "debunked" his #VeryFinePeople comment
Trump posted a deceptively edited 7 sec video that omits key portions of Tapper's remarks.
Trump’s post claimed:
"Even Jake Tapper DEBUNKED the "very fine poeple" HOAX that Crooked Joe totally lied about moments ago”Tapper did no such thing.
The video posted by Trump comes from an April 2019 CNN segment. In Trump's edited version, Trump even cut into the word "people.”1/
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My summer reading just arrived! 📖
Very Fine People by A.R. Moxon @JuliusGoat