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  1. Some thoughts on how curiosity can make us fall for schemes and give passive support to projects we'd otherwise wouldn't.

    Today I received an email newsletter from #Urbit. I'm a subscriber, because many many years ago, I became very curious about the technical aspects around it. This was roughly during Bitcoin's early days, when the fascination with projects that defeated Zooko's triangle overcame the concern with consequences that had not, as of yet, become manifest. I also was not aware to what extent urbit's designer was not only a fascist, but someone who had wilfully embedded feudal logic into the protocol. After acquiring a couple of free planets (I think they were called spaceships back then), I fiddled some with it, and became disappointed with the extremely weak typing system and the fact all the "down to principles of computing" sale was a scam, in the sense that anything practical can't run on Urbit other than by calling non-Urbit code (jets). The prospect of having a system that slowly freezes into perfection is a good one, but without proofs it is all arbitrary. Likewise, the choice of language made it very hard for me to program with it: by chance or not, Hoon and NOK are almost custom-designed to be tough for blind programmers. After a while I lost interest and the promise of a system that lasts forever didn't take long to break, so my credentials became useless.

    Now in this newsletter I got offered a free planet, and yes, a big part of me said, "try it, take it." Curiosity and perhaps the fear of missing out on something good prodded at me, and I did open the website.

    But this time I stopped myself in time. I may agree that computing as it exists is a bad model, and that we need something that individuals can understand, that is deterministic, legible, and hardens into an optimum system. But Urbit isn't that. Urbit will never be that. It's a fascist political project wrapped in a technical vision that, while having a couple of good ideas, is ill-conceived in its means and ends. I don't really want to touch that again.

  2. Reading about Urbit and Dimes Square and it’s both sad and scary. Is the world really turning this much to the right? Is this the “new” culture. I’m sure it’s not as simple as that but just knowing there are people who believe or want to live in this neoreactionary phantasy? thepointmag.com/politics/final #urbit #DimesSquare #neoreactionary #edgelord :thaenkin:

  3. I follow Tlon and the #Urbit crew on Are.na and even though I can’t shake the feeling that they’re creating a solution to a problem they created themselves and that the ghost of Yarvin is still haunting the source code - oh boy I get excited every time I see UI designs or general design sketches from them. They manage to create counterculture vibes that I would much rather see in #Fediverse than on a digital feudalistic platform.

  4. @Moon

    I gave Urbit a try, wasn't really sure where to go with it. The new user chat room in the documentation wouldn't let me connect. I tried to use the #Bitcoin wallet and couldn't find a live backend to connect to let alone find up to date documentation on connecting my own node. #Urbit just doesn't seem ready for prime time to me. Maybe I'll give it another try in the future.

  5. Anyone have any experience with #urbit ? I’ve been reading about it recently and at least in principle, it’s seems very interesting

  6. Servicetoot: I won't be able to restart my #Urbit until monday.