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Someone should clean this up.
upstart is dead for over a decade

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Booting

#ubuntu #wiki #upstart #outdated

@mcc @dalias @whitequark @becomethewaifu

It didn't replace van Smoorenberg init+rc. It replaced Upstart. The existence of Upstart is the part of history that many people forget or gloss over.

van Smoorenberg init+rc always was a straw man. The Debian committee included it, but everyone acknowledged at the time that the main contenders were systemd, Upstart, and OpenRC.

#systemd #Upstart

@BoydStephenSmithJr @dvandal @david_chisnall @strlcat

This reasoning is based upon a fallacious dichotomy. In the real history, Upstart existed and had a strong competing maintainership, to the level that the #Debian TC itself was nearly split down the middle on #RedHat/#Canonical lines, and the choice was *never* between van Smoorenburg init+rc and systemd.

It was between #Upstart and #systemd, the latter indeed being a reaction to the former, with #OpenRC as a late entrant.

@cstross

I enjoyed how spot-on you accidentally were. (-:

Interestingly, people still argue today (as you've probably seen in these threads) as if it were van Smoorenburg rc that was the other choice for Debian et al. back in 2014; which was in reality either Upstart or OpenRC. It's a very persistent erroneous dichotomy.

#systemd #Upstart #OpenRC

@cstross

Right more than you know in one respect; but wrong in another.

#systemd came from #RedHat, not Microsoft; and the upstart was not Linux but a software package from #Canonical that was literally named "Upstart". (There's a whole backstory about the copyright licence that Canonical initially granted.)

Amusingly, Windows NT's Service Controller, its WININIT, and its Session Manager are three distinct things; not like systemd's architecture at all.

#Upstart

@alexmurray @stgraber it's not that we can't it's that we don't want to. CLAs are terrible and we've never required one for any of our projects.

In a way CLAs are one (of many) reasons why #upstart never stood a chance against #systemd. Or look at the #hashicorp debacle.

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@JdeBP @RL_Dane @mos_8502 Indeed, it very much didn't. And it's very useful context for #systemd. Seeing systemd as a replacement for #upstart, which had already broadly replaced SysInitV, makes much more sense of the situation. It's not like upstart was any less "corporate" or anything (Canonical, Red Hat, Google). It's that in practice, it was really not good at tracking processes and often couldn't be relied on.

@vwbusguy @RL_Dane @mos_8502 There were such people, though. #upstart was seen as the new event-driven way of the future, and there were people who promoted it as such. The Debian Technical Committee was almost evenly split, moreover.

As I said in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19966762 , the event-driven notion didn't work out in practice.

@JdeBP @RL_Dane @mos_8502 It's also important to ask why the outrage for #systemd but not #upstart that had already replaced SysInitV in many #Linux distros, yet I never hear anyone arguing that upstart was better than systemd in any way.

https://upstart.ubuntu.com/

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