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  1. @aral io

    1- EVERYONE supports #Capitalism - at least on a #financial level as it's an #INTEGRATED #default:

    #Taxes & %'$ are taken.
    #Banks use #money for #war / #bad projects.

    2- Your posts are measurably worse / nasty now - pushing average person or #fans away.

    The false #Ultimatums and false-decisions presented are separating people.

    (i.e. None of your audience are big Capitalists or #Evil people. Your recent words / #hate feels like you assume it).

    3- Not hate - love / increment #trust

  2. @aral io

    1- EVERYONE supports #Capitalism - at least on a #financial level as it's an #INTEGRATED #default:

    #Taxes & %'$ are taken.
    #Banks use #money for #war / #bad projects.

    2- Your posts are measurably worse / nasty now - pushing average person or #fans away.

    The false #Ultimatums and false-decisions presented are separating people.

    (i.e. None of your audience are big Capitalists or #Evil people. Your recent words / #hate feels like you assume it).

    3- Not hate - love / increment #trust

  3. @aral io

    1- EVERYONE supports #Capitalism - at least on a #financial level as it's an #INTEGRATED #default:

    #Taxes & %'$ are taken.
    #Banks use #money for #war / #bad projects.

    2- Your posts are measurably worse / nasty now - pushing average person or #fans away.

    The false #Ultimatums and false-decisions presented are separating people.

    (i.e. None of your audience are big Capitalists or #Evil people. Your recent words / #hate feels like you assume it).

    3- Not hate - love / increment #trust

  4. @aral io

    1- EVERYONE supports #Capitalism - at least on a #financial level as it's an #INTEGRATED #default:

    #Taxes & %'$ are taken.
    #Banks use #money for #war / #bad projects.

    2- Your posts are measurably worse / nasty now - pushing average person or #fans away.

    The false #Ultimatums and false-decisions presented are separating people.

    (i.e. None of your audience are big Capitalists or #Evil people. Your recent words / #hate feels like you assume it).

    3- Not hate - love / increment #trust

  5. @aral io

    1- EVERYONE supports #Capitalism - at least on a #financial level as it's an #INTEGRATED #default:

    #Taxes & %'$ are taken.
    #Banks use #money for #war / #bad projects.

    2- Your posts are measurably worse / nasty now - pushing average person or #fans away.

    The false #Ultimatums and false-decisions presented are separating people.

    (i.e. None of your audience are big Capitalists or #Evil people. Your recent words / #hate feels like you assume it).

    3- Not hate - love / increment #trust

  6. #Ukraine #irony #satire #talks #laptyekanda #ultimatums
    Пам'ятаєте ті перші "переговори" з орками, коли всі почули безумні ультиматуми лаптєканди? Тоді ще раптом одного з учасників нашої делегації застрелили сбушники в Києві? В нас тільки одне питання: "Чому вони не застрелили справжнього зрадника в делегації, замість того представника України? Чия рука схибила?"

  7. #Ukraine #irony #satire #talks #laptyekanda #ultimatums
    Пам'ятаєте ті перші "переговори" з орками, коли всі почули безумні ультиматуми лаптєканди? Тоді ще раптом одного з учасників нашої делегації застрелили сбушники в Києві? В нас тільки одне питання: "Чому вони не застрелили справжнього зрадника в делегації, замість того представника України? Чия рука схибила?"

  8. #Ukraine #irony #satire #talks #laptyekanda #ultimatums
    Пам'ятаєте ті перші "переговори" з орками, коли всі почули безумні ультиматуми лаптєканди? Тоді ще раптом одного з учасників нашої делегації застрелили сбушники в Києві? В нас тільки одне питання: "Чому вони не застрелили справжнього зрадника в делегації, замість того представника України? Чия рука схибила?"

  9. Sunday, February 22, 2026

    Explosions rock Kyiv as Russia launches ballistic missiles at Ukraine's capital -- Europe's green transition is now a matter of energy security -- 4 killed in northeastern Ukraine as Russia strikes ambulance carrying minor hospitalized in blast -- Ukraine hits Russian planes, ships, and artillery in major strikes on occupied territories ... and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2026

  10. Sunday, February 22, 2026

    Explosions rock Kyiv as Russia launches ballistic missiles at Ukraine's capital -- Europe's green transition is now a matter of energy security -- 4 killed in northeastern Ukraine as Russia strikes ambulance carrying minor hospitalized in blast -- Ukraine hits Russian planes, ships, and artillery in major strikes on occupied territories ... and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2026

  11. Sunday, February 22, 2026

    Explosions rock Kyiv as Russia launches ballistic missiles at Ukraine's capital -- Europe's green transition is now a matter of energy security -- 4 killed in northeastern Ukraine as Russia strikes ambulance carrying minor hospitalized in blast -- Ukraine hits Russian planes, ships, and artillery in major strikes on occupied territories ... and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2026

  12. Sunday, February 22, 2026

    Explosions rock Kyiv as Russia launches ballistic missiles at Ukraine's capital -- Europe's green transition is now a matter of energy security -- 4 killed in northeastern Ukraine as Russia strikes ambulance carrying minor hospitalized in blast -- Ukraine hits Russian planes, ships, and artillery in major strikes on occupied territories ... and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2026

  13. Sunday, February 22, 2026

    Explosions rock Kyiv as Russia launches ballistic missiles at Ukraine's capital -- Europe's green transition is now a matter of energy security -- 4 killed in northeastern Ukraine as Russia strikes ambulance carrying minor hospitalized in blast -- Ukraine hits Russian planes, ships, and artillery in major strikes on occupied territories ... and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2026

  14. 1min #Audio from #CoryDoctorow

    about #Data #BigTech #Tariffs #USPol #Privacy #Trump #Private #Deals #Ultimatums #Greenland

    ⬇️ Cory Doctorow #Quotes @pluralistic

    💬 ⭐ "Give Trump an inch, he will take a mile."

    💬 ⭐ "Capitulation has been a failure."

    💬 ⭐ "If someone threatens to burn your house down unless you follow their orders and they burn your house down anyway, you don't have to keep following their orders"

    Surrendering to #Trump and capitulation is a failure...

    But Tariffs are also a way to try force people to sell out (their country - e.g. saying tariffs will be put on Brazilian coffee if they don't accept US anti-circumvention laws - so those countries (all of them) give in and take on #US pressure.

    Source:
    Cory Doctorow Podcast 507 The Post-American Internet -

    #CoryDoctorow #Cory #Audio #Excerpt

    ⬇️ #Solution / #Answer ⬇️

    #Internet Coalition / #Partners
    vs.
    #BigTech #Enshittification (double tt)
    ( not single t 🚫 #Enshitification 🚫 ) #Enshittocene

  15. 1min #Audio from #CoryDoctorow

    about #Data #BigTech #Tariffs #USPol #Privacy #Trump #Private #Deals #Ultimatums #Greenland

    ⬇️ Cory Doctorow #Quotes @pluralistic

    💬 ⭐ "Give Trump an inch, he will take a mile."

    💬 ⭐ "Capitulation has been a failure."

    💬 ⭐ "If someone threatens to burn your house down unless you follow their orders and they burn your house down anyway, you don't have to keep following their orders"

    Surrendering to #Trump and capitulation is a failure...

    But Tariffs are also a way to try force people to sell out (their country - e.g. saying tariffs will be put on Brazilian coffee if they don't accept US anti-circumvention laws - so those countries (all of them) give in and take on #US pressure.

    Source:
    Cory Doctorow Podcast 507 The Post-American Internet -

    #CoryDoctorow #Cory #Audio #Excerpt

    ⬇️ #Solution / #Answer ⬇️

    #Internet Coalition / #Partners
    vs.
    #BigTech #Enshittification (double tt)
    ( not single t 🚫 #Enshitification 🚫 ) #Enshittocene

  16. #noScroll #overlay in #browser

    Can you autoenable scrolling when the no-scroll overlay happens on websites ?

    To automatically get rid of noscroll code via plugin or something?

    Any options?

    #cookies #ultimatums #adverts #obfuscation

  17. #noScroll #overlay in #browser

    Can you autoenable scrolling when the no-scroll overlay happens on websites ?

    To automatically get rid of noscroll code via plugin or something?

    Any options?

    #cookies #ultimatums #adverts #obfuscation

  18. Sunday, August 17, 2025

    Sensitive details about Trump-Putin summit revealed in discarded government documents, NPR reports — Everything we know about the fallout of Trump’s meeting with Putin — Slovakia’s Fico praises Putin-Trump summit, repeats Kremlin propaganda — Putin cannot be trusted; Nordic, Baltic countries issue joint statement supporting Ukraine’s sovereignty … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  19. Sunday, August 17, 2025

    Sensitive details about Trump-Putin summit revealed in discarded government documents, NPR reports — Everything we know about the fallout of Trump’s meeting with Putin — Slovakia’s Fico praises Putin-Trump summit, repeats Kremlin propaganda — Putin cannot be trusted; Nordic, Baltic countries issue joint statement supporting Ukraine’s sovereignty … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  20. Sunday, August 17, 2025

    Sensitive details about Trump-Putin summit revealed in discarded government documents, NPR reports — Everything we know about the fallout of Trump’s meeting with Putin — Slovakia’s Fico praises Putin-Trump summit, repeats Kremlin propaganda — Putin cannot be trusted; Nordic, Baltic countries issue joint statement supporting Ukraine’s sovereignty … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  21. Sunday, August 17, 2025

    Sensitive details about Trump-Putin summit revealed in discarded government documents, NPR reports — Everything we know about the fallout of Trump’s meeting with Putin — Slovakia’s Fico praises Putin-Trump summit, repeats Kremlin propaganda — Putin cannot be trusted; Nordic, Baltic countries issue joint statement supporting Ukraine’s sovereignty … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  22. Sunday, August 17, 2025

    Sensitive details about Trump-Putin summit revealed in discarded government documents, NPR reports — Everything we know about the fallout of Trump’s meeting with Putin — Slovakia’s Fico praises Putin-Trump summit, repeats Kremlin propaganda — Putin cannot be trusted; Nordic, Baltic countries issue joint statement supporting Ukraine’s sovereignty … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  23. Saturday, July 12, 2025

    Ukraine deploying interceptor drones to defend Kyiv amid surge in Russian attacks — Russia targets life: Russian attacks kill 9, injure 42 over past day, damaging maternity hospital in Kharkiv — Ukraine behind new pipeline explosion in Siberia that supplies Russian military-industrial complex — These were not negotiations; Ukraine’s deputy foreign minister on Istanbul talks with Russia in exclusive interview … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  24. Saturday, July 12, 2025

    Ukraine deploying interceptor drones to defend Kyiv amid surge in Russian attacks — Russia targets life: Russian attacks kill 9, injure 42 over past day, damaging maternity hospital in Kharkiv — Ukraine behind new pipeline explosion in Siberia that supplies Russian military-industrial complex — These were not negotiations; Ukraine’s deputy foreign minister on Istanbul talks with Russia in exclusive interview … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  25. Saturday, July 12, 2025

    Ukraine deploying interceptor drones to defend Kyiv amid surge in Russian attacks — Russia targets life: Russian attacks kill 9, injure 42 over past day, damaging maternity hospital in Kharkiv — Ukraine behind new pipeline explosion in Siberia that supplies Russian military-industrial complex — These were not negotiations; Ukraine’s deputy foreign minister on Istanbul talks with Russia in exclusive interview … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  26. Saturday, July 12, 2025

    Ukraine deploying interceptor drones to defend Kyiv amid surge in Russian attacks — Russia targets life: Russian attacks kill 9, injure 42 over past day, damaging maternity hospital in Kharkiv — Ukraine behind new pipeline explosion in Siberia that supplies Russian military-industrial complex — These were not negotiations; Ukraine’s deputy foreign minister on Istanbul talks with Russia in exclusive interview … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  27. Saturday, July 12, 2025

    Ukraine deploying interceptor drones to defend Kyiv amid surge in Russian attacks — Russia targets life: Russian attacks kill 9, injure 42 over past day, damaging maternity hospital in Kharkiv — Ukraine behind new pipeline explosion in Siberia that supplies Russian military-industrial complex — These were not negotiations; Ukraine’s deputy foreign minister on Istanbul talks with Russia in exclusive interview … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  28. Thursday, June 5, 2025

    Ukraine wouldn’t launch Operation Spiderweb if Russia agreed to ceasefire — Ukraine could face 500+ Russian drones a night as Kremlin builds new launch sites — Putin’s disregard for troops highlighted as Russian losses approach 1 million, CSIS report shows — For the first time, Pentagon chief to skip Ramstein-format meeting of Ukraine’s allies … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  29. Thursday, June 5, 2025

    Ukraine wouldn’t launch Operation Spiderweb if Russia agreed to ceasefire — Ukraine could face 500+ Russian drones a night as Kremlin builds new launch sites — Putin’s disregard for troops highlighted as Russian losses approach 1 million, CSIS report shows — For the first time, Pentagon chief to skip Ramstein-format meeting of Ukraine’s allies … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  30. Thursday, June 5, 2025

    Ukraine wouldn’t launch Operation Spiderweb if Russia agreed to ceasefire — Ukraine could face 500+ Russian drones a night as Kremlin builds new launch sites — Putin’s disregard for troops highlighted as Russian losses approach 1 million, CSIS report shows — For the first time, Pentagon chief to skip Ramstein-format meeting of Ukraine’s allies … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  31. Thursday, June 5, 2025

    Ukraine wouldn’t launch Operation Spiderweb if Russia agreed to ceasefire — Ukraine could face 500+ Russian drones a night as Kremlin builds new launch sites — Putin’s disregard for troops highlighted as Russian losses approach 1 million, CSIS report shows — For the first time, Pentagon chief to skip Ramstein-format meeting of Ukraine’s allies … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  32. Thursday, June 5, 2025

    Ukraine wouldn’t launch Operation Spiderweb if Russia agreed to ceasefire — Ukraine could face 500+ Russian drones a night as Kremlin builds new launch sites — Putin’s disregard for troops highlighted as Russian losses approach 1 million, CSIS report shows — For the first time, Pentagon chief to skip Ramstein-format meeting of Ukraine’s allies … and more

    activitypub.writeworks.uk/2025

  33. Now that you have me
    where you want to
    painted in a corner
    I gotta warn you
    lame threats
    and desperate #ultimatums
    always makes me chafe

    Honey is the best bait
    if you wish to create
    a path for my full cooperation

    #poem #poetry #vsspoem #amwriting

  34. Now that you have me
    where you want to
    painted in a corner
    I gotta warn you
    lame threats
    and desperate #ultimatums
    always makes me chafe

    Honey is the best bait
    if you wish to create
    a path for my full cooperation

    #poem #poetry #vsspoem #amwriting

  35. Now that you have me
    where you want to
    painted in a corner
    I gotta warn you
    lame threats
    and desperate #ultimatums
    always makes me chafe

    Honey is the best bait
    if you wish to create
    a path for my full cooperation

    #poem #poetry #vsspoem #amwriting

  36. Now that you have me
    where you want to
    painted in a corner
    I gotta warn you
    lame threats
    and desperate #ultimatums
    always makes me chafe

    Honey is the best bait
    if you wish to create
    a path for my full cooperation

    #poem #poetry #vsspoem #amwriting

  37. Now that you have me
    where you want to
    painted in a corner
    I gotta warn you
    lame threats
    and desperate #ultimatums
    always makes me chafe

    Honey is the best bait
    if you wish to create
    a path for my full cooperation

    #poem #poetry #vsspoem #amwriting

  38. CW: About Wealth inequality NOT being a problem...

    @freemo @chrismarkevich I think it is a problem (if you really mean originally near-0 problems from it) because of what is related to wealth are just too MANY as I see it below:

    Some may start good or seem giving but many start to damage or have limits / go cross the line.

    Thanks for your thoughts on those main points with ➡️

    So some of those elements and extensions below are listed that surpass good (again even starting out as good quickly by design go bad with or with awareness) which are the points are around:

    ➡️ material extraction / earth's limits related to wealth #oil #land whatever

    ➡️ geo-political relativity is inevitable (can't have land etc with disruptions) which eventually wealth funds as war problems even if you didn't mean it.

    ➡️ tax related to wealth inequality funding States / power that naturally corrupts / is less humble (and many companies might pay very little 1% tax whereas people pay 50%+ directly if not indirectly which is unfair - we should all be living it up easy !)

    ➡️ #economical #war (#wealrth inequality creates feelings / encourages more control / take overs / monopolies etc)

    ➡️ the #ignorance which buying / selling automatically embeds (makes far too easy as any most 'wealth') and encourages naturally a short way but from longer #hidden damage-chains more than understanding things a bit more by not using it and less importing it... and then having choice in being 'born into it' eventually means losing common sense and morality and skill as even more embedded and detached responsibility as #wealth / #externalization / distance itself becomes increasingly more.

    ➡️ just using banks - not cool - having wealth transacted and stored with those types of #cold people and it's false #economics.

    In my book the re-lending of this kind of wealth overnight (as the main type of #wealth let's say) dilutes all money (as man-made infinite numbers of "#growth" rather than actually planetary and #social measurements).

    Banks as momentary positive numbers in exchange for negatives long term (Debt / #Negative society / #treadmill society as result)

    So my storage of wealth = more debt and make things dilute faster. Hence why people kept it under their mattress and effectively so as in banks has only gets worse apart from 'safe keeping of it'

    #War of course provided by banks if most wealth needs storing "safely" (again to re-#loan it to other behind your back).

    Again other wealth but consider just #banks as 1 #hornets nest... and

    ➡️ If it's not geared towards Sharing then it's bad. #Privatization / #Gentrification / raising the bar always makes it a losing and inevitable power things as inequality with these #problems above - almost total control on people individual life itself (no #food or #shelter).

    Quality of life can be that much better for poor people as modern times are based on using / leveraging the poor people or even countries for the upper class / authorities #ultimatums (not just 1 but continual) else face #death /#turmoil... That is how wealth #inequality works more I think that what you indicated as almost nothing...

    Your next post is a bit confusing or confirming as mentions #unfair #advantage - I believe that's the whole point and existence of it or came to be at least..

    ➡️ Even highly #competitive #markets are bad / too #hyperactive / duplicative / exhausting in all this as material or #society even if seemingly 'giving' (damaging #planet / #people / being# ignorant overall).

    Thanks for your thoughts on those main points with ➡️

  39. CW: About Wealth inequality NOT being a problem...

    @freemo @chrismarkevich I think it is a problem (if you really mean originally near-0 problems from it) because of what is related to wealth are just too MANY as I see it below:

    Some may start good or seem giving but many start to damage or have limits / go cross the line.

    Thanks for your thoughts on those main points with ➡️

    So some of those elements and extensions below are listed that surpass good (again even starting out as good quickly by design go bad with or with awareness) which are the points are around:

    ➡️ material extraction / earth's limits related to wealth #oil #land whatever

    ➡️ geo-political relativity is inevitable (can't have land etc with disruptions) which eventually wealth funds as war problems even if you didn't mean it.

    ➡️ tax related to wealth inequality funding States / power that naturally corrupts / is less humble (and many companies might pay very little 1% tax whereas people pay 50%+ directly if not indirectly which is unfair - we should all be living it up easy !)

    ➡️ #economical #war (#wealrth inequality creates feelings / encourages more control / take overs / monopolies etc)

    ➡️ the #ignorance which buying / selling automatically embeds (makes far too easy as any most 'wealth') and encourages naturally a short way but from longer #hidden damage-chains more than understanding things a bit more by not using it and less importing it... and then having choice in being 'born into it' eventually means losing common sense and morality and skill as even more embedded and detached responsibility as #wealth / #externalization / distance itself becomes increasingly more.

    ➡️ just using banks - not cool - having wealth transacted and stored with those types of #cold people and it's false #economics.

    In my book the re-lending of this kind of wealth overnight (as the main type of #wealth let's say) dilutes all money (as man-made infinite numbers of "#growth" rather than actually planetary and #social measurements).

    Banks as momentary positive numbers in exchange for negatives long term (Debt / #Negative society / #treadmill society as result)

    So my storage of wealth = more debt and make things dilute faster. Hence why people kept it under their mattress and effectively so as in banks has only gets worse apart from 'safe keeping of it'

    #War of course provided by banks if most wealth needs storing "safely" (again to re-#loan it to other behind your back).

    Again other wealth but consider just #banks as 1 #hornets nest... and

    ➡️ If it's not geared towards Sharing then it's bad. #Privatization / #Gentrification / raising the bar always makes it a losing and inevitable power things as inequality with these #problems above - almost total control on people individual life itself (no #food or #shelter).

    Quality of life can be that much better for poor people as modern times are based on using / leveraging the poor people or even countries for the upper class / authorities #ultimatums (not just 1 but continual) else face #death /#turmoil... That is how wealth #inequality works more I think that what you indicated as almost nothing...

    Your next post is a bit confusing or confirming as mentions #unfair #advantage - I believe that's the whole point and existence of it or came to be at least..

    ➡️ Even highly #competitive #markets are bad / too #hyperactive / duplicative / exhausting in all this as material or #society even if seemingly 'giving' (damaging #planet / #people / being# ignorant overall).

    Thanks for your thoughts on those main points with ➡️

  40. CW: "STOP DIGGING" means to "STOP LIVING" [the TLDR of this + fine points / examples if wanted]...

    @kim_harding Ok I would like to put across why many don't do it (without agreeing with anyone just saying "this is some of the reason why below and as short version "Maybe don't have a choice but consume energy")

    To help see what I mean:

    Imagine you were born into using energy (for everything).

    ☑️ Your parents used less but they are now happy to not working in certain ways so hard (cars, lawnmowers, less back work etc)

    ☑️ It's not you but mostly companies

    ☑️ In cities there is not other choice (air conditioning, no gardens, no trees etc)

    Basically the total of all these (excluding the people who totally don't care) means asking people to almost die or sort of suffer from being "born into" the level of suffering (the high bars constantly increased or allowed by our parents and BigTech etc)

    If people stopped, they basically might die from not following the flow (going against the grain even if the temperature is hotter, the other ways as 'hotter' in other ways challenging your "livelihood" based on increasing aesthetics or financial swindles and a kind of "virtual reality" we must uphold else life falls apart).

    In Saudia Arabia their buildings needing fuel to pump water UP to apartments (yes crazy but this is almost life for everyone in some metaphorical and real sense but just less subtle in cars and things we need to "get kids to school" etc).
    Without air conditioning for example - faaak many wouldn't last... so it's what the technologies and planners allowed to happen that now we can't get out of or rid of unless we get rid of ourselves and our family members. California as a kind of desert bowl or Las Vegasstyle installation into a desert...

    Does that make sense in this area of "why people who care can't change".

    "STOP DIGGING" means to "STOP LIVING"

    I agree people could start incrementing down

    I can't see waiting for others to literally stop digging for them to work (that is not reasonable to wait for or expect as they know what #Fuckery and #Enshitification they do as raw exchange).

    Thanks, comments welcome on each bit or overall...

    #GlobalWarming #ClimateChange #Hypocrisy
    #ClimateCrisis = Born into #Ultimatums #Family Make the #hypocrisy
    of #Consumption at everyone's + #planets detriment

  41. CW: "STOP DIGGING" means to "STOP LIVING" [the TLDR of this + fine points / examples if wanted]...

    @kim_harding Ok I would like to put across why many don't do it (without agreeing with anyone just saying "this is some of the reason why below and as short version "Maybe don't have a choice but consume energy")

    To help see what I mean:

    Imagine you were born into using energy (for everything).

    ☑️ Your parents used less but they are now happy to not working in certain ways so hard (cars, lawnmowers, less back work etc)

    ☑️ It's not you but mostly companies

    ☑️ In cities there is not other choice (air conditioning, no gardens, no trees etc)

    Basically the total of all these (excluding the people who totally don't care) means asking people to almost die or sort of suffer from being "born into" the level of suffering (the high bars constantly increased or allowed by our parents and BigTech etc)

    If people stopped, they basically might die from not following the flow (going against the grain even if the temperature is hotter, the other ways as 'hotter' in other ways challenging your "livelihood" based on increasing aesthetics or financial swindles and a kind of "virtual reality" we must uphold else life falls apart).

    In Saudia Arabia their buildings needing fuel to pump water UP to apartments (yes crazy but this is almost life for everyone in some metaphorical and real sense but just less subtle in cars and things we need to "get kids to school" etc).
    Without air conditioning for example - faaak many wouldn't last... so it's what the technologies and planners allowed to happen that now we can't get out of or rid of unless we get rid of ourselves and our family members. California as a kind of desert bowl or Las Vegasstyle installation into a desert...

    Does that make sense in this area of "why people who care can't change".

    "STOP DIGGING" means to "STOP LIVING"

    I agree people could start incrementing down

    I can't see waiting for others to literally stop digging for them to work (that is not reasonable to wait for or expect as they know what #Fuckery and #Enshitification they do as raw exchange).

    Thanks, comments welcome on each bit or overall...

    #GlobalWarming #ClimateChange #Hypocrisy
    #ClimateCrisis = Born into #Ultimatums #Family Make the #hypocrisy
    of #Consumption at everyone's + #planets detriment

  42. THE MORE LEGAL IT IS,
    THE MORE REGULATED.

    (THE MORE FUCKED /
    NON-FREEDOM IN IT'S DESIGN)

    #Legal #Fascism #Logic of #Ultimatums #Government

  43. I quit my job towards the end of last month.

    When I started this blog, I told myself, “Don’t talk about work.” Since my employment is in the rear view mirror, I’m going to bend that rule for once. And most likely, only this one time.

    Why? Since I wrote a whole series about how to get into tech for as close to $0 as possible without prior experience, I feel that omitting my feelings would be, on some level, dishonest.

    Refusing Forced Relocation

    I had been hired in 2019 for the cryptography team at a large tech company. I was hired as a 100% remote employee, with the understanding that I would work from my home in Florida.

    Then a pandemic started to happen (which continues to be a mass-disabling event despite what many politicians proclaim).

    The COVID-19 pandemic forced a lot of people who preferred to work in an office setting to sink-or-swim in a remote work environment.

    In early 2020, you could be forgiven for imagining that this new arrangement was a temporary safety measure that we would adopt for a time, and then one day return to normal. By mid 2022, only people that cannot let go of their habits and traditions continued to believe that we’d ever return to the “normal” they knew in 2019.

    As someone who had been working remote since 2014, as soon as the shift happened, many of my peers reached out to me for advice on how to be productive at home. This was an uncomfortable experience for many of them, and as someone who was comfortable in a fully virtual environment, I was happy to help.

    By early 2021, I was considered to not only be a top performer, but also a critical expert for the cryptography organization. My time ended up split across three different teams, and I was still knocking my projects out of the park. But more importantly, junior employees felt comfortable approaching me with questions and our most distinguished engineers sought my insight on security and cryptography topics.

    It became an inside joke of the cryptography organization, not to let me ever look at someone else’s source code on a Friday, because I would inevitably find at least one security issue, which would inevitably ruin someone’s weekend. I suppose the reasoning was that, if the source code in question belonged to a foundational software package, it carried the risk of paging the entire company as we tried to figure out how to mitigate the issue and upstream the fix.

    (I never once got earnestly reprimanded for finding security bugs, of course.)

    I can’t really go into detail about the sort of work I did. I don’t really want to name names, either. But I will say that I woke up every day excited and motivated. The problems were interesting, the people were wonderful, and there was an atmosphere of respect and collaboration.

    Despite the sudden change in working environment for most of the cryptography organization in response to COVID-19, we were doing great work and cultivating the same healthy and productive work environment that everyone fondly remembered pre-pandemic.

    Art: CMYKat

    And then the company’s CEO decided to make an unceremonious, unilateral, top-down decision (based entirely on vibes from talking to other CEOs, rather than anything resembling facts, data, or logic):

    Everyone must return to the office, and virtual employees must relocate. Exceptions would be few, far between, and required a C-level to sign off on it. Good luck getting an exception before your relocation decision deadline.

    Hey, tech workers, stop me if you’ve heard this one before.

    To the credit of my former managers, they sprung this dilemma on me literally the day before I went to a hacker conference–a venue full of hiring managers and technical founders.

    On Ultimatums

    If I had to give only one bit of advice to anyone ever faced with an ultimatum from someone with power over them (be it an employer or abusive romantic partner), it would be:

    Ultimately, never choose the one giving you an ultimatum.

    Art: AJ_LovesDinos

    If your employer tells you, “Move to an expensive city or resign,” your best move will be, in the end, to quit. Notice that I said, in the end.

    It’s perfectly okay to pretend to comply to buy time while you line up a new gig somewhere else.

    That’s what I did. Just don’t start selling your family home or looking at real estate listings, and definitely don’t accept any relocation assistance (since you’ll have to return it when you split).

    Conversely, if you let these assholes exert their power over you, you dehumanize yourself in submission.

    (Yes, you did just read those words on a blog written by a furry.)

    If you take nothing else away from this post, always keep this in mind.

    Art: MarleyTanuki

    From Whence Was This Idiocy Inspired?

    Nothing happens in a vacuum.

    When more tech workers opted to earn their tech company salaries while living in cheaper cost-of-living houses, less tech worker money circulated to big city businesses.

    This outflow of money does hurt the local economies of said cities, including the ones that big tech companies are headquartered in. In some cases, this pain has jeopardized a lot of the tax incentives that said companies enjoy.

    That’s why we keep hearing about politicians praising the draconian way that the return-to-office policies are being enforced.

    At the end of the day, incentives rule everything around us.

    Companies have to kowtow to the government in order to reduce their tax bill (and continue pocketing record profits–which drive inflation–while their workers’ wages stagnate).

    This outcome was incredibly obvious to everyone that was paying attention; it was just a matter of when, not if.

    Signs of Things to Come

    Do you know who was really paying attention? The top talent at most tech companies.

    After I turned in my resignation, I received a much larger outpour of support from other very senior tech workers than I ever imagined.

    Many of them admitted that they were actively looking for new roles; some of them for the first time in over a decade.

    Many of them already have new gigs lined up, and were preparing to resign too. Some of those already have.

    Others are preparing to refuse to comply with either demand, countering the companies’ ultimatums with one of their own: Shut up or fire me.

    What I took from these messages is this: What tech companies are doing is complete bullshit, and everyone knows it, and nobody is happy about it.

    With all this in mind, I’d like to issue a prediction for how this return-to-office with forced relocation will play out, should companies’ leaders double down on their draconian nature.

    My Prediction

    Every company that issued forced relocation ultimatums to their pre-pandemic remote workers will not only lose most (if not all) their top talent in the next year, but they will struggle to hire for at least the coming decade.

    The bridge has been burnt, and the well has been poisoned.

    Trust arrives on foot, but leaves on horseback.

    Dutch proverb

    The companies that issued these ultimatums are not stupid. They had to know that some percentage of their core staff would leave over their forced relocation mandates. Many described it as a “soft layoff” tactic.

    But I don’t think they appreciate the breadth or depth of the burn they’ve inflicted. Even if they can keep their ships from sinking, the wound will fester and their culture will not easily recover. This will lead to even more brain drain.

    Who could blame anyone for leaving when that happens?

    Unfortunately, there is a class of people that work in tech that will bear the brunt of the ensuing corporate abuse: H-1B visa employees, whose immigration status is predicated on their ongoing employment. Their ability to hop from abusive companies onto lifeboats is, on the best of days, limited.

    And that? Well, that’s going to get ugly.

    There’s still time for these companies to slam the brakes on their unmitigated disaster of failed leadership before it collapses the whole enterprise.

    If I were a betting dhole, I wouldn’t bet money on most of them doing that.

    Their incentives aren’t aligned that way yet, and when they finally are, it will be far too late.

    Toward New Opportunities

    As for me, I’m enjoying some well-earned downtime before I start my new remote job.

    I wasn’t foolish enough to uproot my life and everyone I love at some distant corporate asshole’s whims, but I also wasn’t impulsive enough to jump ship without a plan.

    That’s as much as I feel comfortable saying about myself on here.

    If you’re facing a similar dilemma, just know that you’re not alone. Savvy companies will be taking advantage of your current employer’s weakness to pan for gold, so to speak.

    You are not trapped. Your life is your own to live. Choose wisely.

    Addendum

    After I posted this, it made the front page of Hacker News and was subsequently posted in quite a few places. After reading some of the comments, I realize a few subtleties in my word choice didn’t come across, so I’d like to clarify them.

    When I say “RTO is bullshit”, I don’t mean “office work is bullshit” or anything negative about people that prefer in-person office work. I mean “the forced relocation implementation of transitioning a whole company to never-remote (a.k.a. RTO) is bullshit”.

    If working in an office is better for you, rock on. I don’t have any issue with that. The bullshit is the actions taken by company’s leadership teams in absence of (or often in spite of) hard data on remote work versus in-person work. The bullshit is changing remote worker’s employment agreements without their consent and threatening “voluntary resignation” as the only alternative (even though that’s pretty obviously constructive dismissal).

    When I discussed ultimatums above, I’m specifically referring to actual ultimatums, not colloquial understandings of the word. If you can talk with the person and negotiate with them, it’s not a goddamn ultimatum. What I was faced with was an actual ultimatum: Comply or suffer. I chose freedom.

    Hope that helps.

    CMYKat made this, I edited the text

    Regarding some of the other comments, I come from the “I work to live” mindset, not the “I live to work” mindset. My opinions won’t resonate with everyone. That’s okay!

    Update: I wrote a follow-up to this post to address a lot of bad comments I saw on HN and Reddit.

    https://soatok.blog/2023/10/02/return-to-office-is-bullshit-and-everyone-knows-it/

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