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At least as Cybersyn's goals were described in Evgeny Morozov's 2023 podcast The Santiago Boys;
https://choramedia.com/podcast/the-santiago-boys/
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"In Santiago, things are very different now. The Chicago Boys have been put in charge of the economy [of Chile]. While Milton Friedman - their favourite guru - has even come to visit [Augusto] Pinochet, and even take a picture with this despicable dictator."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-8-of-condors-and-caravans-5_0lZzJ4pLF/
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#podcasts #ChoraMedia #TheSantiagoBoys #ChicagoBoys #MiltonFriedman
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"Notice what's going on here. [Stafford] Beer and CyberSyn are abandoning the traditional toolkit of Soviet planning. Instead, they're charging towards a new type of socialism, one where realtime data triumphs over archaic planning methods, and that's how it should be.
'Reality is stronger than theory', as [Chilean President Salvador] Allende once said."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://the-santiago-boys.com/episodes/podcast-002
#podcasts #TheSantiagoBoys #Chile #socialism #EconomicPlanning #StaffordBeer #CyberSyn
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"In Santiago, things are very different now. The Chicago Boys have been put in charge of the economy [of Chile]. While Milton Friedman - their favourite guru - has even come to visit [Augusto] Pinochet, and even take a picture with this despicable dictator."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-8-of-condors-and-caravans-5_0lZzJ4pLF/
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#podcasts #ChoraMedia #TheSantiagoBoys #ChicagoBoys #MiltonFriedman
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"In Santiago, things are very different now. The Chicago Boys have been put in charge of the economy [of Chile]. While Milton Friedman - their favourite guru - has even come to visit [Augusto] Pinochet, and even take a picture with this despicable dictator."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-8-of-condors-and-caravans-5_0lZzJ4pLF/
(1/?)
#podcasts #ChoraMedia #TheSantiagoBoys #ChicagoBoys #MiltonFriedman
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"In Santiago, things are very different now. The Chicago Boys have been put in charge of the economy [of Chile]. While Milton Friedman - their favourite guru - has even come to visit [Augusto] Pinochet, and even take a picture with this despicable dictator."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-8-of-condors-and-caravans-5_0lZzJ4pLF/
(1/?)
#podcasts #ChoraMedia #TheSantiagoBoys #ChicagoBoys #MiltonFriedman
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After Eden Medina, Evgeny Morozov takes a stab at the #Cybersyn story with #TheSantiagoBoys - the podcast helped me better understand the role of Fernando Flores in the development, after he famously introduced Beer to Allende https://the-santiago-boys.com/
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"There are now competing visions of what exactly cybernetic software is supposed to do. Stafford Beer thinks it's a tool for the people. Others on the team take a more limited view. Seeing it as nothing but an experimental tool for managing the economy. And a prototype really. And a technocratic one at that."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/
#podcasts #ChoraMedia #TheSantiagoBoys #StaffordBeer #Chile #ProjectCybersyn
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"There are now competing visions of what exactly cybernetic software is supposed to do. Stafford Beer thinks it's a tool for the people. Others on the team take a more limited view. Seeing it as nothing but an experimental tool for managing the economy. And a prototype really. And a technocratic one at that."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/
#podcasts #ChoraMedia #TheSantiagoBoys #StaffordBeer #Chile #ProjectCybersyn
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"There are now competing visions of what exactly cybernetic software is supposed to do. Stafford Beer thinks it's a tool for the people. Others on the team take a more limited view. Seeing it as nothing but an experimental tool for managing the economy. And a prototype really. And a technocratic one at that."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/
#podcasts #ChoraMedia #TheSantiagoBoys #StaffordBeer #Chile #ProjectCybersyn
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"There are now competing visions of what exactly cybernetic software is supposed to do. Stafford Beer thinks it's a tool for the people. Others on the team take a more limited view. Seeing it as nothing but an experimental tool for managing the economy. And a prototype really. And a technocratic one at that."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/
#podcasts #ChoraMedia #TheSantiagoBoys #StaffordBeer #Chile #ProjectCybersyn
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"Notice what's going on here. [Stafford] Beer and CyberSyn are abandoning the traditional toolkit of Soviet planning. Instead, they're charging towards a new type of socialism, one where realtime data triumphs over archaic planning methods, and that's how it should be.
'Reality is stronger than theory', as [Chilean President Salvador] Allende once said."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://the-santiago-boys.com/episodes/podcast-002
#podcasts #TheSantiagoBoys #Chile #socialism #EconomicPlanning #StaffordBeer #CyberSyn
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"Notice what's going on here. [Stafford] Beer and CyberSyn are abandoning the traditional toolkit of Soviet planning. Instead, they're charging towards a new type of socialism, one where realtime data triumphs over archaic planning methods, and that's how it should be.
'Reality is stronger than theory', as [Chilean President Salvador] Allende once said."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://the-santiago-boys.com/episodes/podcast-002
#podcasts #TheSantiagoBoys #Chile #socialism #EconomicPlanning #StaffordBeer #CyberSyn
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"Notice what's going on here. [Stafford] Beer and CyberSyn are abandoning the traditional toolkit of Soviet planning. Instead, they're charging towards a new type of socialism, one where realtime data triumphs over archaic planning methods, and that's how it should be.
'Reality is stronger than theory', as [Chilean President Salvador] Allende once said."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://the-santiago-boys.com/episodes/podcast-002
#podcasts #TheSantiagoBoys #Chile #socialism #EconomicPlanning #StaffordBeer #CyberSyn
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it took 2 years of work and 200 interviews this wonderful podcast by #EvgenyMorozov:
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it took 2 years of work and 200 interviews this wonderful podcast by #EvgenyMorozov:
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it took 2 years of work and 200 interviews this wonderful podcast by #EvgenyMorozov:
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it took 2 years of work and 200 interviews this wonderful podcast by #EvgenyMorozov:
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it took 2 years of work and 200 interviews this wonderful podcast by #EvgenyMorozov:
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Just finished the first episode of Evgeny Morozov's new podcast series. It is pretty good! The website and all the extra materials is fantastic.
#TheSantiagoBoys #podcast #EvgenyMorozov #Cybersyn #Chile #history #DarkTech
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Just finished the first episode of Evgeny Morozov's new podcast series. It is pretty good! The website and all the extra materials is fantastic.
#TheSantiagoBoys #podcast #EvgenyMorozov #Cybersyn #Chile #history #DarkTech
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Just finished the first episode of Evgeny Morozov's new podcast series. It is pretty good! The website and all the extra materials is fantastic.
#TheSantiagoBoys #podcast #EvgenyMorozov #Cybersyn #Chile #history #DarkTech
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Just finished the first episode of Evgeny Morozov's new podcast series. It is pretty good! The website and all the extra materials is fantastic.
#TheSantiagoBoys #podcast #EvgenyMorozov #Cybersyn #Chile #history #DarkTech
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Just finished the first episode of Evgeny Morozov's new podcast series. It is pretty good! The website and all the extra materials is fantastic.
#TheSantiagoBoys #podcast #EvgenyMorozov #Cybersyn #Chile #history #DarkTech
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Listening to Evgeny Morozov's description of General Pinochet's September 11 coup in Chile, and the accounts of some of the survivors he interviewed, I'm reminded of just how much worse anticommunist authoritarianism can get;
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-7-a-room-of-ones-own-PJcvitxhkV7/
Right now the intellectual descendants of the Chicago Boys are asset stripping the US federal government. But no one is being tortured or killed yet. Right?
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"There is no one better qualified to model a plant, than the man whose life is spent working in it. He knows. We have constructed a little tool, in the quantified flow chart, and in handing this tool to the workers, we have no technocratic problems."
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/
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Hey @mike_hales, I didn't know you interviewed Stafford Beer during Project Cybersyn!
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-5-the-super-technocrat-of-P-pdmZza2UN/