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  1. I actually love the minimalism of @mitra ...

    It's light weight and its just what I was looking for. No big features just tooting and conversing with the fediverse.

    #Fediverse #Mitra #MicroBlogging #TheFedi

  2. But... But...

    #TrumpIsDead...?!

    I #ReadIT in #TheFedi...

    And, #TheFediverseRemembers...

    🧙:fediverse:🤖🐺🤖:fediverse:​🧙 | :PirateBadge:🐘🦹🦄🦹🐘:PirateBadge:

  3. aiquez wrote:

    i think it is difficult not to have at least an agenda / topic .. some things were working indeed ( #FoFritz ) but on the longer run, it has to be clear if it is an art Project or collaborative_system_trial
    i got 2 less time in daily life (2 much occupied by work and fam) only in holiday and some free time.

    Even tho while your observation is reasonable, and excellent in terms of feedback @aiquez, including our very personal circumstances, it doesn't look like you or @mina are right in terms about clearness of what this is/was from the beginning, or what apparently it mend to be.
    The problem in any case is around the setup and/or kind of announcement/invite in a world of microblogging and federated content over different platforms, languages, societies, space, time (and all the rest).

    Than there were in part some misunderstandings in terms of platform functionality about getting update notifications, as it was worked out with @mina. The first drafts contained a 25 minute audio that wasn't summed up and didn't get the feedback "requested". Or it didn't get the feedback as expected to become summed up at least in general terms by conversations. If you have a look right now at the first initial post, it's in version v.04 and has a renewed quite simple freeplane mindmap, as the initial idea, the way of presenting it and the time to represent it evolved. Ultimately the proposal is more or less about what an answer to @sinmisterios summed up later on:

    bitpickup translated into englisch wrote:

    The reality is that this is a string of conversation about:
    • how to make us join to create content
    • how to create it
    • what tools to use to do so
    • how to publish the content
      and
    • where to publish it


    and all that around a specific topic as a hook for a proof of concept.
    Ultimately the proposal is simple and called:
    #mitDenken

    If you look at it, to a certain extent now we are at a point where even each and every one of the points, except the one of co-editing content, that's the studi0 and the media page part, have been touched or exemplified. Actually, the same happened to #foFritz too. At the same time, quite like in the #foFritz project, the community accounts (bitpickup, jesuisatire (and tierranietos)) have dedicated themselves to the project kinda full time 96/7/365. Others, to more or less extent have joined efforts to add content by comments but not so much questions, clarifying answers or own initiatives. Except @dprieto, who actually went off on a branch that in reality belonged to some specific content by tierranietos. A detail that in the end was useful and a good feedback at the same time because it showed how we perceive the communication out here and in any case gave some hints about what is needed to make things like this proposal work if that is possible at all.

    Somehow this "project", the search for how to prevent "the one who is out there all alone" to drown in his #depression, loneliness and #climateGrief, and together with that actually ultimately "how to sustain and protect La tierra de nuestros nietos", tries to tackle exactly "the emptiness of the common social media that programmed us", as pointed out quite neat by @_elena in her latest trailer #theFedi. And if we talk about "try to tackle", we would come to points that weren't even touched, or perhaps were expected to be touched thru feed back conversations about trust, cooperation and so on.

    At the same time, main point is and always will be, that most of us are just people out here who are chit-chatting, looking for some entertainment and didn't subscribe, nor requested to become some kind of independent lossless pseudonym ONG to fulfill the expectations of others. So the first point of the sum-up, "how to join forces", has worked out to a certain extent by addressing contacts out of specific reasons. At the same time those contacts became kinda baffled because they found themself in comments and discussions that looked off-topic for them. Even more because they by themselves did not out of an own impulse "subscribe" to some #greenPeaceLastGenerationTwoPoint0 project and there for not only became confused but even maybe became feed up somehow. And again, all this in an ambience of strangers in a dopamine wanna be social-web short span attention entertainment snippet reality.

    In other words, as pointed out by @bitpickup:

    • is/was this post string a useful experience?
      yes
    • is/was this a useful experience to build on that can stand/remain as it is?
      yes
    • was it successful?
      As of now, not really.
    • did the initial proposal has "at least an agenda / topic"
      Actually it did, but all of you, as for now, never managed to work that out and stumbled over nitpicking details, quite nice chit-chat content, worthy for kind slap stick comic conversation string, and probably strange nerv wrecking results because of dopamine, micro-blogging and previous negative social media experiences which all together create misunderstanding and perhaps even feelings that become perceived as offensive or feeling offended.

    At least that is the interpretation from over here.

    Last but not least:

    aiquez wrote:

    the sftp_issue could be interesting
    -> collecting_files for activism or arts .. lets see

    Actually it looks like this is where the #foFritz-@studi0 project "got stuck" for now, not in terms of creating sftp access in the first place, but in terms of downloading the material for #FOSS co-editing with #KDEnlive, #OBS and/or #GIMP and working out howTo's and how to do that in the first place. In any case, ultimately even an issue that in part ends up in conversations and best practice about trust and creating a #webOfTrust between those involved in a mandatory and by default pseudonym environment, as you are supposed to download a zip/tar.gz and/or files and open them on your system.


    btw
    Looks like #foFritz actually evolved into #idenTheater and is actually just there, waiting to be used for all kinds of news slaughter, exposure, satirizing of tyrants and all those things.

    Last take was the envy of a dying emperor over people who farewelled their beloved humble neighbor who was forced by life to become president for one term.


    @crossgolf_rebel @resl

  4. aiquez wrote:

    i think it is difficult not to have at least an agenda / topic .. some things were working indeed ( #FoFritz ) but on the longer run, it has to be clear if it is an art Project or collaborative_system_trial
    i got 2 less time in daily life (2 much occupied by work and fam) only in holiday and some free time.

    Even tho while your observation is reasonable, and excellent in terms of feedback @aiquez, including our very personal circumstances, it doesn't look like you or @mina are right in terms about clearness of what this is/was from the beginning, or what apparently it mend to be.
    The problem in any case is around the setup and/or kind of announcement/invite in a world of microblogging and federated content over different platforms, languages, societies, space, time (and all the rest).

    Than there were in part some misunderstandings in terms of platform functionality about getting update notifications, as it was worked out with @mina. The first drafts contained a 25 minute audio that wasn't summed up and didn't get the feedback "requested". Or it didn't get the feedback as expected to become summed up at least in general terms by conversations. If you have a look right now at the first initial post, it's in version v.04 and has a renewed quite simple freeplane mindmap, as the initial idea, the way of presenting it and the time to represent it evolved. Ultimately the proposal is more or less about what an answer to @sinmisterios summed up later on:

    bitpickup translated into englisch wrote:

    The reality is that this is a string of conversation about:
    • how to make us join to create content
    • how to create it
    • what tools to use to do so
    • how to publish the content
      and
    • where to publish it


    and all that around a specific topic as a hook for a proof of concept.
    Ultimately the proposal is simple and called:
    #mitDenken

    If you look at it, to a certain extent now we are at a point where even each and every one of the points, except the one of co-editing content, that's the studi0 and the media page part, have been touched or exemplified. Actually, the same happened to #foFritz too. At the same time, quite like in the #foFritz project, the community accounts (bitpickup, jesuisatire (and tierranietos)) have dedicated themselves to the project kinda full time 96/7/365. Others, to more or less extent have joined efforts to add content by comments but not so much questions, clarifying answers or own initiatives. Except @dprieto, who actually went off on a branch that in reality belonged to some specific content by tierranietos. A detail that in the end was useful and a good feedback at the same time because it showed how we perceive the communication out here and in any case gave some hints about what is needed to make things like this proposal work if that is possible at all.

    Somehow this "project", the search for how to prevent "the one who is out there all alone" to drown in his #depression, loneliness and #climateGrief, and together with that actually ultimately "how to sustain and protect La tierra de nuestros nietos", tries to tackle exactly "the emptiness of the common social media that programmed us", as pointed out quite neat by @_elena in her latest trailer #theFedi. And if we talk about "try to tackle", we would come to points that weren't even touched, or perhaps were expected to be touched thru feed back conversations about trust, cooperation and so on.

    At the same time, main point is and always will be, that most of us are just people out here who are chit-chatting, looking for some entertainment and didn't subscribe, nor requested to become some kind of independent lossless pseudonym ONG to fulfill the expectations of others. So the first point of the sum-up, "how to join forces", has worked out to a certain extent by addressing contacts out of specific reasons. At the same time those contacts became kinda baffled because they found themself in comments and discussions that looked off-topic for them. Even more because they by themselves did not out of an own impulse "subscribe" to some #greenPeaceLastGenerationTwoPoint0 project and there for not only became confused but even maybe became feed up somehow. And again, all this in an ambience of strangers in a dopamine wanna be social-web short span attention entertainment snippet reality.

    In other words, as pointed out by @bitpickup:

    • is/was this post string a useful experience?
      yes
    • is/was this a useful experience to build on that can stand/remain as it is?
      yes
    • was it successful?
      As of now, not really.
    • did the initial proposal has "at least an agenda / topic"
      Actually it did, but all of you, as for now, never managed to work that out and stumbled over nitpicking details, quite nice chit-chat content, worthy for kind slap stick comic conversation string, and probably strange nerv wrecking results because of dopamine, micro-blogging and previous negative social media experiences which all together create misunderstanding and perhaps even feelings that become perceived as offensive or feeling offended.

    At least that is the interpretation from over here.

    Last but not least:

    aiquez wrote:

    the sftp_issue could be interesting
    -> collecting_files for activism or arts .. lets see

    Actually it looks like this is where the #foFritz-@studi0 project "got stuck" for now, not in terms of creating sftp access in the first place, but in terms of downloading the material for #FOSS co-editing with #KDEnlive, #OBS and/or #GIMP and working out howTo's and how to do that in the first place. In any case, ultimately even an issue that in part ends up in conversations and best practice about trust and creating a #webOfTrust between those involved in a mandatory and by default pseudonym environment, as you are supposed to download a zip/tar.gz and/or files and open them on your system.


    btw
    Looks like #foFritz actually evolved into #idenTheater and is actually just there, waiting to be used for all kinds of news slaughter, exposure, satirizing of tyrants and all those things.

    Last take was the envy of a dying emperor over people who farewelled their beloved humble neighbor who was forced by life to become president for one term.


    @crossgolf_rebel @resl

  5. aiquez wrote:

    i think it is difficult not to have at least an agenda / topic .. some things were working indeed ( #FoFritz ) but on the longer run, it has to be clear if it is an art Project or collaborative_system_trial
    i got 2 less time in daily life (2 much occupied by work and fam) only in holiday and some free time.

    Even tho while your observation is reasonable, and excellent in terms of feedback @aiquez, including our very personal circumstances, it doesn't look like you or @mina are right in terms about clearness of what this is/was from the beginning, or what apparently it mend to be.
    The problem in any case is around the setup and/or kind of announcement/invite in a world of microblogging and federated content over different platforms, languages, societies, space, time (and all the rest).

    Than there were in part some misunderstandings in terms of platform functionality about getting update notifications, as it was worked out with @mina. The first drafts contained a 25 minute audio that wasn't summed up and didn't get the feedback "requested". Or it didn't get the feedback as expected to become summed up at least in general terms by conversations. If you have a look right now at the first initial post, it's in version v.04 and has a renewed quite simple freeplane mindmap, as the initial idea, the way of presenting it and the time to represent it evolved. Ultimately the proposal is more or less about what an answer to @sinmisterios summed up later on:

    bitpickup translated into englisch wrote:

    The reality is that this is a string of conversation about:
    • how to make us join to create content
    • how to create it
    • what tools to use to do so
    • how to publish the content
      and
    • where to publish it


    and all that around a specific topic as a hook for a proof of concept.
    Ultimately the proposal is simple and called:
    #mitDenken

    If you look at it, to a certain extent now we are at a point where even each and every one of the points, except the one of co-editing content, that's the studi0 and the media page part, have been touched or exemplified. Actually, the same happened to #foFritz too. At the same time, quite like in the #foFritz project, the community accounts (bitpickup, jesuisatire (and tierranietos)) have dedicated themselves to the project kinda full time 96/7/365. Others, to more or less extent have joined efforts to add content by comments but not so much questions, clarifying answers or own initiatives. Except @dprieto, who actually went off on a branch that in reality belonged to some specific content by tierranietos. A detail that in the end was useful and a good feedback at the same time because it showed how we perceive the communication out here and in any case gave some hints about what is needed to make things like this proposal work if that is possible at all.

    Somehow this "project", the search for how to prevent "the one who is out there all alone" to drown in his #depression, loneliness and #climateGrief, and together with that actually ultimately "how to sustain and protect La tierra de nuestros nietos", tries to tackle exactly "the emptiness of the common social media that programmed us", as pointed out quite neat by @_elena in her latest trailer #theFedi. And if we talk about "try to tackle", we would come to points that weren't even touched, or perhaps were expected to be touched thru feed back conversations about trust, cooperation and so on.

    At the same time, main point is and always will be, that most of us are just people out here who are chit-chatting, looking for some entertainment and didn't subscribe, nor requested to become some kind of independent lossless pseudonym ONG to fulfill the expectations of others. So the first point of the sum-up, "how to join forces", has worked out to a certain extent by addressing contacts out of specific reasons. At the same time those contacts became kinda baffled because they found themself in comments and discussions that looked off-topic for them. Even more because they by themselves did not out of an own impulse "subscribe" to some #greenPeaceLastGenerationTwoPoint0 project and there for not only became confused but even maybe became feed up somehow. And again, all this in an ambience of strangers in a dopamine wanna be social-web short span attention entertainment snippet reality.

    In other words, as pointed out by @bitpickup:

    • is/was this post string a useful experience?
      yes
    • is/was this a useful experience to build on that can stand/remain as it is?
      yes
    • was it successful?
      As of now, not really.
    • did the initial proposal has "at least an agenda / topic"
      Actually it did, but all of you, as for now, never managed to work that out and stumbled over nitpicking details, quite nice chit-chat content, worthy for kind slap stick comic conversation string, and probably strange nerv wrecking results because of dopamine, micro-blogging and previous negative social media experiences which all together create misunderstanding and perhaps even feelings that become perceived as offensive or feeling offended.

    At least that is the interpretation from over here.

    Last but not least:

    aiquez wrote:

    the sftp_issue could be interesting
    -> collecting_files for activism or arts .. lets see

    Actually it looks like this is where the #foFritz-@studi0 project "got stuck" for now, not in terms of creating sftp access in the first place, but in terms of downloading the material for #FOSS co-editing with #KDEnlive, #OBS and/or #GIMP and working out howTo's and how to do that in the first place. In any case, ultimately even an issue that in part ends up in conversations and best practice about trust and creating a #webOfTrust between those involved in a mandatory and by default pseudonym environment, as you are supposed to download a zip/tar.gz and/or files and open them on your system.


    btw
    Looks like #foFritz actually evolved into #idenTheater and is actually just there, waiting to be used for all kinds of news slaughter, exposure, satirizing of tyrants and all those things.

    Last take was the envy of a dying emperor over people who farewelled their beloved humble neighbor who was forced by life to become president for one term.


    @crossgolf_rebel @resl

  6. aiquez wrote:

    i think it is difficult not to have at least an agenda / topic .. some things were working indeed ( #FoFritz ) but on the longer run, it has to be clear if it is an art Project or collaborative_system_trial
    i got 2 less time in daily life (2 much occupied by work and fam) only in holiday and some free time.

    Even tho while your observation is reasonable, and excellent in terms of feedback @aiquez, including our very personal circumstances, it doesn't look like you or @mina are right in terms about clearness of what this is/was from the beginning, or what apparently it mend to be.
    The problem in any case is around the setup and/or kind of announcement/invite in a world of microblogging and federated content over different platforms, languages, societies, space, time (and all the rest).

    Than there were in part some misunderstandings in terms of platform functionality about getting update notifications, as it was worked out with @mina. The first drafts contained a 25 minute audio that wasn't summed up and didn't get the feedback "requested". Or it didn't get the feedback as expected to become summed up at least in general terms by conversations. If you have a look right now at the first initial post, it's in version v.04 and has a renewed quite simple freeplane mindmap, as the initial idea, the way of presenting it and the time to represent it evolved. Ultimately the proposal is more or less about what an answer to @sinmisterios summed up later on:

    bitpickup translated into englisch wrote:

    The reality is that this is a string of conversation about:
    • how to make us join to create content
    • how to create it
    • what tools to use to do so
    • how to publish the content
      and
    • where to publish it


    and all that around a specific topic as a hook for a proof of concept.
    Ultimately the proposal is simple and called:
    #mitDenken

    If you look at it, to a certain extent now we are at a point where even each and every one of the points, except the one of co-editing content, that's the studi0 and the media page part, have been touched or exemplified. Actually, the same happened to #foFritz too. At the same time, quite like in the #foFritz project, the community accounts (bitpickup, jesuisatire (and tierranietos)) have dedicated themselves to the project kinda full time 96/7/365. Others, to more or less extent have joined efforts to add content by comments but not so much questions, clarifying answers or own initiatives. Except @dprieto, who actually went off on a branch that in reality belonged to some specific content by tierranietos. A detail that in the end was useful and a good feedback at the same time because it showed how we perceive the communication out here and in any case gave some hints about what is needed to make things like this proposal work if that is possible at all.

    Somehow this "project", the search for how to prevent "the one who is out there all alone" to drown in his #depression, loneliness and #climateGrief, and together with that actually ultimately "how to sustain and protect La tierra de nuestros nietos", tries to tackle exactly "the emptiness of the common social media that programmed us", as pointed out quite neat by @_elena in her latest trailer #theFedi. And if we talk about "try to tackle", we would come to points that weren't even touched, or perhaps were expected to be touched thru feed back conversations about trust, cooperation and so on.

    At the same time, main point is and always will be, that most of us are just people out here who are chit-chatting, looking for some entertainment and didn't subscribe, nor requested to become some kind of independent lossless pseudonym ONG to fulfill the expectations of others. So the first point of the sum-up, "how to join forces", has worked out to a certain extent by addressing contacts out of specific reasons. At the same time those contacts became kinda baffled because they found themself in comments and discussions that looked off-topic for them. Even more because they by themselves did not out of an own impulse "subscribe" to some #greenPeaceLastGenerationTwoPoint0 project and there for not only became confused but even maybe became feed up somehow. And again, all this in an ambience of strangers in a dopamine wanna be social-web short span attention entertainment snippet reality.

    In other words, as pointed out by @bitpickup:

    • is/was this post string a useful experience?
      yes
    • is/was this a useful experience to build on that can stand/remain as it is?
      yes
    • was it successful?
      As of now, not really.
    • did the initial proposal has "at least an agenda / topic"
      Actually it did, but all of you, as for now, never managed to work that out and stumbled over nitpicking details, quite nice chit-chat content, worthy for kind slap stick comic conversation string, and probably strange nerv wrecking results because of dopamine, micro-blogging and previous negative social media experiences which all together create misunderstanding and perhaps even feelings that become perceived as offensive or feeling offended.

    At least that is the interpretation from over here.

    Last but not least:

    aiquez wrote:

    the sftp_issue could be interesting
    -> collecting_files for activism or arts .. lets see

    Actually it looks like this is where the #foFritz-@studi0 project "got stuck" for now, not in terms of creating sftp access in the first place, but in terms of downloading the material for #FOSS co-editing with #KDEnlive, #OBS and/or #GIMP and working out howTo's and how to do that in the first place. In any case, ultimately even an issue that in part ends up in conversations and best practice about trust and creating a #webOfTrust between those involved in a mandatory and by default pseudonym environment, as you are supposed to download a zip/tar.gz and/or files and open them on your system.


    btw
    Looks like #foFritz actually evolved into #idenTheater and is actually just there, waiting to be used for all kinds of news slaughter, exposure, satirizing of tyrants and all those things.

    Last take was the envy of a dying emperor over people who farewelled their beloved humble neighbor who was forced by life to become president for one term.


    @crossgolf_rebel @resl

  7. aiquez wrote:

    i think it is difficult not to have at least an agenda / topic .. some things were working indeed ( #FoFritz ) but on the longer run, it has to be clear if it is an art Project or collaborative_system_trial
    i got 2 less time in daily life (2 much occupied by work and fam) only in holiday and some free time.

    Even tho while your observation is reasonable, and excellent in terms of feedback @aiquez, including our very personal circumstances, it doesn't look like you or @mina are right in terms about clearness of what this is/was from the beginning, or what apparently it mend to be.
    The problem in any case is around the setup and/or kind of announcement/invite in a world of microblogging and federated content over different platforms, languages, societies, space, time (and all the rest).

    Than there were in part some misunderstandings in terms of platform functionality about getting update notifications, as it was worked out with @mina. The first drafts contained a 25 minute audio that wasn't summed up and didn't get the feedback "requested". Or it didn't get the feedback as expected to become summed up at least in general terms by conversations. If you have a look right now at the first initial post, it's in version v.04 and has a renewed quite simple freeplane mindmap, as the initial idea, the way of presenting it and the time to represent it evolved. Ultimately the proposal is more or less about what an answer to @sinmisterios summed up later on:

    bitpickup translated into englisch wrote:

    The reality is that this is a string of conversation about:
    • how to make us join to create content
    • how to create it
    • what tools to use to do so
    • how to publish the content
      and
    • where to publish it


    and all that around a specific topic as a hook for a proof of concept.
    Ultimately the proposal is simple and called:
    #mitDenken

    If you look at it, to a certain extent now we are at a point where even each and every one of the points, except the one of co-editing content, that's the studi0 and the media page part, have been touched or exemplified. Actually, the same happened to #foFritz too. At the same time, quite like in the #foFritz project, the community accounts (bitpickup, jesuisatire (and tierranietos)) have dedicated themselves to the project kinda full time 96/7/365. Others, to more or less extent have joined efforts to add content by comments but not so much questions, clarifying answers or own initiatives. Except @dprieto, who actually went off on a branch that in reality belonged to some specific content by tierranietos. A detail that in the end was useful and a good feedback at the same time because it showed how we perceive the communication out here and in any case gave some hints about what is needed to make things like this proposal work if that is possible at all.

    Somehow this "project", the search for how to prevent "the one who is out there all alone" to drown in his #depression, loneliness and #climateGrief, and together with that actually ultimately "how to sustain and protect La tierra de nuestros nietos", tries to tackle exactly "the emptiness of the common social media that programmed us", as pointed out quite neat by @_elena in her latest trailer #theFedi. And if we talk about "try to tackle", we would come to points that weren't even touched, or perhaps were expected to be touched thru feed back conversations about trust, cooperation and so on.

    At the same time, main point is and always will be, that most of us are just people out here who are chit-chatting, looking for some entertainment and didn't subscribe, nor requested to become some kind of independent lossless pseudonym ONG to fulfill the expectations of others. So the first point of the sum-up, "how to join forces", has worked out to a certain extent by addressing contacts out of specific reasons. At the same time those contacts became kinda baffled because they found themself in comments and discussions that looked off-topic for them. Even more because they by themselves did not out of an own impulse "subscribe" to some #greenPeaceLastGenerationTwoPoint0 project and there for not only became confused but even maybe became feed up somehow. And again, all this in an ambience of strangers in a dopamine wanna be social-web short span attention entertainment snippet reality.

    In other words, as pointed out by @bitpickup:

    • is/was this post string a useful experience?
      yes
    • is/was this a useful experience to build on that can stand/remain as it is?
      yes
    • was it successful?
      As of now, not really.
    • did the initial proposal has "at least an agenda / topic"
      Actually it did, but all of you, as for now, never managed to work that out and stumbled over nitpicking details, quite nice chit-chat content, worthy for kind slap stick comic conversation string, and probably strange nerv wrecking results because of dopamine, micro-blogging and previous negative social media experiences which all together create misunderstanding and perhaps even feelings that become perceived as offensive or feeling offended.

    At least that is the interpretation from over here.

    Last but not least:

    aiquez wrote:

    the sftp_issue could be interesting
    -> collecting_files for activism or arts .. lets see

    Actually it looks like this is where the #foFritz-@studi0 project "got stuck" for now, not in terms of creating sftp access in the first place, but in terms of downloading the material for #FOSS co-editing with #KDEnlive, #OBS and/or #GIMP and working out howTo's and how to do that in the first place. In any case, ultimately even an issue that in part ends up in conversations and best practice about trust and creating a #webOfTrust between those involved in a mandatory and by default pseudonym environment, as you are supposed to download a zip/tar.gz and/or files and open them on your system.


    btw
    Looks like #foFritz actually evolved into #idenTheater and is actually just there, waiting to be used for all kinds of news slaughter, exposure, satirizing of tyrants and all those things.

    Last take was the envy of a dying emperor over people who farewelled their beloved humble neighbor who was forced by life to become president for one term.


    @crossgolf_rebel @resl

  8. Robert Kingett wrote:

    I’d rather want people to make changes to the Fediverse software

    To begin with, participation in the code of FOSS is a main goal, to the point that the community taking over the entire project like in the case of friendica or diaspora is the ideal case. I guess @rms would support such a statement. That includes softforks of all kinds,in the means of not destroying the base layer of communication itself, that's what FOSS is about.

    In general it looks to me that we are not used to the idea of federation and what that means in the first place. We are accustomed to single sites with a single offer and try to adapt them to our needs. The fedi implies that we need to look out for the platforms and instances that have the capabilities we're looking for. People don't get that point because they are trained to be in wallet gardens, stuck with the domain and the platform. And they are used to get pampered and get all their wishes to log them in forever.

    You probably could say that the fedi is kinda free open democracy and the walled gardens are capitalist dictatorships.
    There are lot's of supporters for capitalist dictatorships, especially when they grew up in them.
    None of us is interested in people going back to the asocial dictatorial walled gardens of surveillance. Yet the same way, and with way more impetus, we are against to become those places or willing to change the base line that puts us on a path to become like them, because people with their behavior and expectations imprinted on those sites expect us to become like them, or to adopt behavior and tools that recreate what created the illness of those sites in the first place.

    Robert Kingett wrote:

    What are you going to do when that happens? Tell them to use a different project?

    When ever there is a platform that works well and offers what they are looking for, of course that's what we do and what we all should do!
    That's what the fedi is about!
    That's what diversity is about!

    To be more precise, that's the problem we have with people, be it the @Gargron with his policy to destabilize the federated concept by creating a mega instance like mastodon.social, or others that do things that point in a direction that has been proven to be in detriment to our main goal. That's the moment we become fundamentalists, we become constitutionals. We want to see our prominent people, our "influencers" to tell people not only to use other instances, we want them to promote the fedi in the first place. To be in the first place ambassadors for the fedi itself.

    You see, to onboard newcomers in the first place onto in this case mastodon.social might be a good strategy to make the step into the fedi as easy as possible, but than we'd like to see an attitude like:
    "You want this feature? Try out #peertube!"
    "You want that feature? Try out #misskey, in our road map this goal is far ahead on the schedule"
    "You need that feature, try out #pixelfed!"
    "You want a eierlegende Wollmilchsau? Try out #friendica!
    My goal is a microblogging platform with specific capabilities."
    "You prefer a community that mainly speaks spanisch, try out @rober's masto.es!"
    "You are looking for a scientist community, try out sciencecorner.social!" ..

    Imagine Suckerberg telling people to check out instagram instead of buying it?
    Wouldn't that be an article worth writing about and steering up the media promoted by @jeffjarvis?
    We are in a different realm out here, in a different league. And if we want to prevent the chance of #enshittification of #theFedi, like @pluralistic described it, we need to prevent the creation of log in effects in the first place.

    Your initial toot was about #mastodon and now we are talking about the #fediVerse. That is happening again and again in conversations, just happened recently with @reticuleena too, because people, as well as VC, and our minds think in terms and goals that are not our main goal as a community, as a #fediSociety. And we need to work on this inside our selves in the first place, because the FOSS community and FOSS development has it's own rules and it's own inertia.

    Our ego's, the society that created us, the press with it's attention economy, and VC in particular, they all work on individual success. Our goal, the goal of a better healthier society, a better improved environment for us all, for everyone, takes a different path and needs different tools, behaviors and strategy.

    This is about an evaluation of order of interest for all of us, inside each and every one of us. And a specific struggle against our tribal program, our brand recognition program and our very own ego. People like Eugen, or @dansup are actually in the crossfire of that, and they are taking the worst part, because they get the heat by all the other's. Heat from the righteous ones, the one's how know everything better but ain't able to even fork a code from github and work on something themselves. They are exposed to VC that bribes you with illusions to buy your project, your ideals, your life, your lifetime, your intentions. Even victims of the fans that cheer what ever they say or do, the whole thing squared.

    WE want our free, decentralized, privacy aware internet back. And if people are not able nor want to do the extra mile because they actually just want their twitter or facebook back, we definitely prefer to remain a niche, growing slowly but steady, preserving the main factors that are the fundamental basics of #FOSS, of democracy and a social, free and open society.

    We are in a different environment here @WeirdWriter, the order of the importance is FOSS and federation, than activitypub, than mastodon (in the case of your request).

    That means our first request to the coders should be to guaranty interoperability and an easy way to create and port profiles to others platforms in the very first place. #Diaspora never even achieved that promise inside their very own network.
    We expect anyone out here to put the fedi first.
    To promote other platforms instead of becoming the number one.
    To foster other instances, the network itself, instead of only foster the own belly.

    And we have to work that out, we are working that out.
    We have to invent that.
    We have to invent and create that mindset in ourselves and in the community.
    And we are going to face our own enemies the whole time on our way to the lonely mountain to get rid of the one ring to rule them all, our ego.

    @feb @jupiter_rowland @deadsuperhero

  9. Robert Kingett wrote:

    I’d rather want people to make changes to the Fediverse software

    To begin with, participation in the code of FOSS is a main goal, to the point that the community taking over the entire project like in the case of friendica or diaspora is the ideal case. I guess @rms would support such a statement. That includes softforks of all kinds,in the means of not destroying the base layer of communication itself, that's what FOSS is about.

    In general it looks to me that we are not used to the idea of federation and what that means in the first place. We are accustomed to single sites with a single offer and try to adapt them to our needs. The fedi implies that we need to look out for the platforms and instances that have the capabilities we're looking for. People don't get that point because they are trained to be in wallet gardens, stuck with the domain and the platform. And they are used to get pampered and get all their wishes to log them in forever.

    You probably could say that the fedi is kinda free open democracy and the walled gardens are capitalist dictatorships.
    There are lot's of supporters for capitalist dictatorships, especially when they grew up in them.
    None of us is interested in people going back to the asocial dictatorial walled gardens of surveillance. Yet the same way, and with way more impetus, we are against to become those places or willing to change the base line that puts us on a path to become like them, because people with their behavior and expectations imprinted on those sites expect us to become like them, or to adopt behavior and tools that recreate what created the illness of those sites in the first place.

    Robert Kingett wrote:

    What are you going to do when that happens? Tell them to use a different project?

    When ever there is a platform that works well and offers what they are looking for, of course that's what we do and what we all should do!
    That's what the fedi is about!
    That's what diversity is about!

    To be more precise, that's the problem we have with people, be it the @Gargron with his policy to destabilize the federated concept by creating a mega instance like mastodon.social, or others that do things that point in a direction that has been proven to be in detriment to our main goal. That's the moment we become fundamentalists, we become constitutionals. We want to see our prominent people, our "influencers" to tell people not only to use other instances, we want them to promote the fedi in the first place. To be in the first place ambassadors for the fedi itself.

    You see, to onboard newcomers in the first place onto in this case mastodon.social might be a good strategy to make the step into the fedi as easy as possible, but than we'd like to see an attitude like:
    "You want this feature? Try out #peertube!"
    "You want that feature? Try out #misskey, in our road map this goal is far ahead on the schedule"
    "You need that feature, try out #pixelfed!"
    "You want a eierlegende Wollmilchsau? Try out #friendica!
    My goal is a microblogging platform with specific capabilities."
    "You prefer a community that mainly speaks spanisch, try out @rober's masto.es!"
    "You are looking for a scientist community, try out sciencecorner.social!" ..

    Imagine Suckerberg telling people to check out instagram instead of buying it?
    Wouldn't that be an article worth writing about and steering up the media promoted by @jeffjarvis?
    We are in a different realm out here, in a different league. And if we want to prevent the chance of #enshittification of #theFedi, like @pluralistic described it, we need to prevent the creation of log in effects in the first place.

    Your initial toot was about #mastodon and now we are talking about the #fediVerse. That is happening again and again in conversations, just happened recently with @reticuleena too, because people, as well as VC, and our minds think in terms and goals that are not our main goal as a community, as a #fediSociety. And we need to work on this inside our selves in the first place, because the FOSS community and FOSS development has it's own rules and it's own inertia.

    Our ego's, the society that created us, the press with it's attention economy, and VC in particular, they all work on individual success. Our goal, the goal of a better healthier society, a better improved environment for us all, for everyone, takes a different path and needs different tools, behaviors and strategy.

    This is about an evaluation of order of interest for all of us, inside each and every one of us. And a specific struggle against our tribal program, our brand recognition program and our very own ego. People like Eugen, or @dansup are actually in the crossfire of that, and they are taking the worst part, because they get the heat by all the other's. Heat from the righteous ones, the one's how know everything better but ain't able to even fork a code from github and work on something themselves. They are exposed to VC that bribes you with illusions to buy your project, your ideals, your life, your lifetime, your intentions. Even victims of the fans that cheer what ever they say or do, the whole thing squared.

    WE want our free, decentralized, privacy aware internet back. And if people are not able nor want to do the extra mile because they actually just want their twitter or facebook back, we definitely prefer to remain a niche, growing slowly but steady, preserving the main factors that are the fundamental basics of #FOSS, of democracy and a social, free and open society.

    We are in a different environment here @WeirdWriter, the order of the importance is FOSS and federation, than activitypub, than mastodon (in the case of your request).

    That means our first request to the coders should be to guaranty interoperability and an easy way to create and port profiles to others platforms in the very first place. #Diaspora never even achieved that promise inside their very own network.
    We expect anyone out here to put the fedi first.
    To promote other platforms instead of becoming the number one.
    To foster other instances, the network itself, instead of only foster the own belly.

    And we have to work that out, we are working that out.
    We have to invent that.
    We have to invent and create that mindset in ourselves and in the community.
    And we are going to face our own enemies the whole time on our way to the lonely mountain to get rid of the one ring to rule them all, our ego.

    @feb @jupiter_rowland @deadsuperhero

  10. #live #Politik

    Und vergesst nicht, Wahlumfragen haben klar ergeben das #theFedi
    eine gruenLinke (54%/46%) föderative Republik im #BTW2025 #wahlKrampf war, während praktische alle Politiker jener Parteien auf Plattformen in den trumpschen USA ihre Sympathisanten und Wähler an die Algorithmen und Datenkraken von totalitären Milliardären verkauften.

    .. never forgive, never forget.

  11. #live #Politik

    Und vergesst nicht, Wahlumfragen haben klar ergeben das #theFedi
    eine gruenLinke (54%/46%) föderative Republik im #BTW2025 #wahlKrampf war, während praktische alle Politiker jener Parteien auf Plattformen in den trumpschen USA ihre Sympathisanten und Wähler an die Algorithmen und Datenkraken von totalitären Milliardären verkauften.

    .. never forgive, never forget.

  12. #live #Politik

    Und vergesst nicht, Wahlumfragen haben klar ergeben das #theFedi
    eine gruenLinke (54%/46%) föderative Republik im #BTW2025 #wahlKrampf war, während praktische alle Politiker jener Parteien auf Plattformen in den trumpschen USA ihre Sympathisanten und Wähler an die Algorithmen und Datenkraken von totalitären Milliardären verkauften.

    .. never forgive, never forget.

  13. #live #Politik

    Und vergesst nicht, Wahlumfragen haben klar ergeben das #theFedi
    eine gruenLinke (54%/46%) föderative Republik im #BTW2025 #wahlKrampf war, während praktische alle Politiker jener Parteien auf Plattformen in den trumpschen USA ihre Sympathisanten und Wähler an die Algorithmen und Datenkraken von totalitären Milliardären verkauften.

    .. never forgive, never forget.

  14. It was so thrilling to see folks using Mastodon in the wild at the #OLASC yesterday. It was the first time I've seen people (okay, **a** person) using the Fedi who I didn't convince to join. I guess if anywhere is going to have a bunch of Fedi people, it will be in the cyberattack sessions at a library conference.

    #Libraries #OLA #TheFedi #Librarians

  15. It was so thrilling to see folks using Mastodon in the wild at the #OLASC yesterday. It was the first time I've seen people (okay, **a** person) using the Fedi who I didn't convince to join. I guess if anywhere is going to have a bunch of Fedi people, it will be in the cyberattack sessions at a library conference.

    #Libraries #OLA #TheFedi #Librarians

  16. It was so thrilling to see folks using Mastodon in the wild at the #OLASC yesterday. It was the first time I've seen people (okay, **a** person) using the Fedi who I didn't convince to join. I guess if anywhere is going to have a bunch of Fedi people, it will be in the cyberattack sessions at a library conference.

    #Libraries #OLA #TheFedi #Librarians

  17. It was so thrilling to see folks using Mastodon in the wild at the #OLASC yesterday. It was the first time I've seen people (okay, **a** person) using the Fedi who I didn't convince to join. I guess if anywhere is going to have a bunch of Fedi people, it will be in the cyberattack sessions at a library conference.

    #Libraries #OLA #TheFedi #Librarians

  18. It was so thrilling to see folks using Mastodon in the wild at the #OLASC yesterday. It was the first time I've seen people (okay, **a** person) using the Fedi who I didn't convince to join. I guess if anywhere is going to have a bunch of Fedi people, it will be in the cyberattack sessions at a library conference.

    #Libraries #OLA #TheFedi #Librarians

  19. #realSatire

    #fediTips #bug in the #mastodon #fediVerse

    Dear @ona, @sevegodina will never ever answer you because he has no access to his notifications and there for isn't aware of your intent to help him make his first steps in #theFedi.

    @satire

  20. #realSatire

    #fediTips #bug in the #mastodon #fediVerse

    Dear @ona, @sevegodina will never ever answer you because he has no access to his notifications and there for isn't aware of your intent to help him make his first steps in #theFedi.

    @satire

  21. #realSatire

    #fediTips #bug in the #mastodon #fediVerse

    Dear @ona, @sevegodina will never ever answer you because he has no access to his notifications and there for isn't aware of your intent to help him make his first steps in #theFedi.

    @satire

  22. #realSatire

    #fediTips #bug in the #mastodon #fediVerse

    Dear @ona, @sevegodina will never ever answer you because he has no access to his notifications and there for isn't aware of your intent to help him make his first steps in #theFedi.

    @satire

  23. #realSatire

    #fediTips #bug in the #mastodon #fediVerse

    Dear @ona, @sevegodina will never ever answer you because he has no access to his notifications and there for isn't aware of your intent to help him make his first steps in #theFedi.

    @satire

  24. How many instances can I run on a single piece of hardware? Like, can I run a pixelfed, mastodon, and peertube instance all from my one mini PC? What are the drawbacks? #fediverse #pixelfed #peertube #mastodon #thefedi #selfhost #diytech

  25. How many instances can I run on a single piece of hardware? Like, can I run a pixelfed, mastodon, and peertube instance all from my one mini PC? What are the drawbacks? #fediverse #pixelfed #peertube #mastodon #thefedi #selfhost #diytech

  26. How many instances can I run on a single piece of hardware? Like, can I run a pixelfed, mastodon, and peertube instance all from my one mini PC? What are the drawbacks? #fediverse #pixelfed #peertube #mastodon #thefedi #selfhost #diytech

  27. How many instances can I run on a single piece of hardware? Like, can I run a pixelfed, mastodon, and peertube instance all from my one mini PC? What are the drawbacks? #fediverse #pixelfed #peertube #mastodon #thefedi #selfhost #diytech

  28. How many instances can I run on a single piece of hardware? Like, can I run a pixelfed, mastodon, and peertube instance all from my one mini PC? What are the drawbacks? #fediverse #pixelfed #peertube #mastodon #thefedi #selfhost #diytech

  29. @venitamathias

    Like to say, there will always be a Clarence Thomas, an Elon Musk, a bill Gates and and some dipshit that hides somewhere until he/she unveils himself.
    There for the only thing we can do is build from the bottom up decentralized structures that allow us to stay in charge of our own decissions and be able to move and change as necessary.

    It's like:
    Don't ask what the #fediVerse should be or can do for you but what you can do in and for #theFedi.

    @jtphillipsmnr @blackmastodon

  30. @venitamathias

    Like to say, there will always be a Clarence Thomas, an Elon Musk, a bill Gates and and some dipshit that hides somewhere until he/she unveils himself.
    There for the only thing we can do is build from the bottom up decentralized structures that allow us to stay in charge of our own decissions and be able to move and change as necessary.

    It's like:
    Don't ask what the #fediVerse should be or can do for you but what you can do in and for #theFedi.

    @jtphillipsmnr @blackmastodon

  31. @venitamathias

    Like to say, there will always be a Clarence Thomas, an Elon Musk, a bill Gates and and some dipshit that hides somewhere until he/she unveils himself.
    There for the only thing we can do is build from the bottom up decentralized structures that allow us to stay in charge of our own decissions and be able to move and change as necessary.

    It's like:
    Don't ask what the #fediVerse should be or can do for you but what you can do in and for #theFedi.

    @jtphillipsmnr @blackmastodon

  32. @venitamathias

    Like to say, there will always be a Clarence Thomas, an Elon Musk, a bill Gates and and some dipshit that hides somewhere until he/she unveils himself.
    There for the only thing we can do is build from the bottom up decentralized structures that allow us to stay in charge of our own decissions and be able to move and change as necessary.

    It's like:
    Don't ask what the #fediVerse should be or can do for you but what you can do in and for #theFedi.

    @jtphillipsmnr @blackmastodon

  33. Me...watching the dumpster fire of TwitMelon on Twitface this morning 🔥

    P.S. the reboost button is what you want to hit on #TheFedi. Be #Liberal sharing posts for others. #YourMondayMorningFriendlyReminder

  34. Me...watching the dumpster fire of TwitMelon on Twitface this morning 🔥

    P.S. the reboost button is what you want to hit on #TheFedi. Be #Liberal sharing posts for others. #YourMondayMorningFriendlyReminder

  35. Me...watching the dumpster fire of TwitMelon on Twitface this morning 🔥

    P.S. the reboot button is what you want to hit on #TheFedi. Be #Liberal sharing posts for others. #YourMondayMorningFriendlyReminder

  36. Me...watching the dumpster fire of TwitMelon on Twitface this morning 🔥

    P.S. the reboost button is what you want to hit on #TheFedi. Be #Liberal sharing posts for others. #YourMondayMorningFriendlyReminder

  37. @mastodonusercount I don't know other bots like this one but congrats to #thefedi for hitting 5m accounts.