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Before a few years ago, speech to text / voice control sucked terribly. Your best option was a £700 piece of software called Dragon, first released in 1997. Whisper and Vosk utterly changed the game for making the transcription accessible, and Talon for controlling your computer.
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CW: LMDE, Talon, Dragon
I put LMDE on my laptop this week (after much planning and consideration), and then have been experimenting with Talon Voice. Once I started customising its vocabulary, it's been better than I expected at word recognition! Has _some_ disadvantages compared with Dragon, but is pleasingly faster to respond. Overall not far off.
Originally I had been thinking I would put Dragon back on as well, on top of a Windows on top of a virtual machine, but now I'm thinking maybe I won't need to bother. The time I would've spent wrangling that might be better invested in optimising my Talon setup.
#LMDE #TalonVoice #DragonNaturallySpeaking #software #EndOf10
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Pros of using a USB headset to voice control the serial console and adjust code while testing and wiring sensors on your LED controller:
- flexible
- saves hand spoons for the wire stripping and header stuff
- don’t have to stand up and sit down to type for hardware away from desk
- feels kinda badassCons:
- forgetting to unplug the headset while unplugging the USB cable and getting a tiny shock
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It's very cool and always so exciting to find a new toy, like #talonvoice https://talonvoice.com/
and learn it can interact with #python
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Here is a short video of Cursorless in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZZb12Qp6-0
Admittedly, the commands Pokey is using there do not make sense to someone unfamiliar with Cursorless, so there is a learning curve. But when the alternative is to stop using a computer altogether, I'd prefer spending some time learning Cursorless and Talon.
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All of that is to say that potentially losing out on using a laptop is not a relaxing thought to have. So it is nice to see that people spend time thinking about alternatives and sharing their knowledge. At the end of Nicole's post a voice controller called Talon Voice is mentioned, which to me seems like an amazing tool to have. It's been on my "that looks cool! I should try it out" list for a while, but I've seen how useful it can be.
I'm planning on trying it out soon after being reminded by Nicole's blogpost and combining it with another great tool called Cursorless. While Talon is aimed at controlling your computer in general, Cursorless is aimed at programming without using a keyboard. These kinds of tools are very nice to have in your back pocket just in case you ever need them.
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Nicole Tietz (@nicole) wrote a nice blogpost on what it's like when your arms partially or entirely stop working but you still need to use a computer.
https://www.ntietz.com/blog/my-portable-ergonomic-setup/
I've heard stories before of people who have to deal with nerve damage, RSI, or some other problems in their arms or elsewhere that make using a keyboard and mouse a literal pain. I spend a lot of time around my laptop doing things I enjoy but also doing things I need for my studies and soon for my job.
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If I succeed at learning to use #TalonVoice to control my computers and work, so I don’t use up my precious spoons, does that mean I’m not a professional Computer Toucher? 🤔
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#TalonVoice would be nicer if you could key in corrections.
"Whenever I say 'tab next' you hear 'tab jet' ... how about if you hear the non-sensical 'tab jet' you just do 'tab next'?"
Voice control has a long way still to go.
(But I appreciate where it is, and I'm a total newb. The UI / onboarding sure could do with some re-thinking, but then this is a small project and these issues are typical of small projects)
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Ok, so one of the things I have noticed since trying #TalonVoice to learn to control my Mac via speech (and so help reduce some RSI / Arthritis issues)...
...I talk to myself.
And I know that because every now and then something wild will happen "out of nowhere" (like my background video muting and going full screen), and I'll realise... "oh, I was talking to myself there wasn't I?"
I'm hoping to nail down Talon before trying Cursorless for "actual programming" via voice.
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@matt sometime #talonVoice user here - amazing app - when I needed it it was a lifesaver!
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CW: Voice coding diary
Day 6
So far the big challenge has been improving accuracy, I started out with the microphone from my headset, it's a Beyerdynamic, a fancy audio brand, so I expected it to be ok, but it actually wasn't that great.
I then switch to a condensor mic I've had for some twenty years, but it seems that one has given the ghost. It works but produces a lot of rumble. Not that surprising, these kind of microphones are notably fragile.
Now I'm using a Shure SM58. It's a classic magnetic coil mic. Indestructible and well suited for vocals. Now it's much better. I also did some vocal warmup this morning and lo and behold that helped too!
There are still a few things it regularly gets wrong, probably cause I'm not enunciating things well enough. E.g. I say "tilde" and it types "the", or "brace" instead of "phrase". Making an effort to put on my "radio host" voice.
Now that accuracy is much better I can more confidently start chaining longer commands, which is essential to get fast enough. And I'm continuing to add custom commands for stuff I do regularly, so I don't have to "spell" things using the talon alphabet. E.g. "change directory" for "cd ", instead of "cap drum space". This also helps with accuracy (more recognizable phrases), and provides easier mnemonics.
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I've made a recording of myself now that I'm a few days in using talon voice, as a snapshot to show where I am in the process.
You can see me use emacs and firefox using my voice, while I try to get something working in clojurescript.
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@guerra I sometimes use it because the official language server works best there or at least reports errors most accurately/obviously most of the time.
I sometimes use it for it's state of the art #cursorless voice coding plugin for #talonvoice, though emacs support is in the works for emacs.
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RT from @freedcreative
Just completed my first start to finish production #coding task, done for a client, since my arms & hands developed problems (…).
Got it done thanks to #KubuntuLinux, #XPPen 16TP pen display, #VSCodium, #OnBoard #screenKeyboard, #TalonVoice, and the #AudioTechnicaPro8 #HEXMicrophone.
(…W)ouldn't have been possible (…w/o) the #FOSS community. There's no functional equivalent for the above setup on Mac/Windows/Android/iOS.
Was really nice to be (#programming) again.