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  1. The polls are shifting towards #HarrisWalz according to most sources.

    My concerns are:
    1. Polls are notoriously inaccurate this early in a campaign (if they're ever accurate).
    2. People will get complacent thinking Harris is ahead and not vote.
    3. #MSM seems to favor #tfg and will increase attacks on Harris/Walz (such as #SwiftBoating ).

    The gist of my concerns is that each of us needs to do what we can to promote #HarrisWalz2024 and not allow complacency.

  2. "The swiftboating of Walz is sick, inacurate, and will fail. Weak men attack stronger men to make themselves feel better."

    ~ Adam Kinzinger

    #JDVance #TimWalz #swiftboating #media
    /13

    adamkinzinger.substack.com/p/t

  3. "Remember when John Kerry was Swiftboated by Chris LaCivita who is doing it to Tim Walz now? Guess who funded it? Harlan Crow, the billionaire who has been lavishing freebies on Clarence Thomas."

    ~ Jane Mayer as quoted by David Kurtz

    #JDVance #TimWalz #swiftboating #media #HarlanCrow #ClarenceThomas #ChrisLaCivita
    /12

    morningmemo.talkingpointsmemo.

  4. "Two decades ago, LaCivita helped write & produce television ads for Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a group that falsely claimed Kerry was misrepresenting his #service as a #SwiftBoat captain in the #Vietnam War — for which Kerry was awarded 3 Purple Hearts, a Silver Star & a Bronze Star.

    Vance & other Republicans are now trying to discredit Walz’s 24 years of service in the #NationalGuard...

    #swiftboating is now a widely used term for the kind of attack #Republicans have launched at #Walz"

  5. "If you're criticizing your opponent for his 24 years of military service, you obviously don't have any substantive arguments to make."

    ~ Michael McFaul as quoted by Evan Hurst

    #JDVance #TimWalz #swiftboating #media
    /11

    evanhurst.substack.com/p/tim-w

  6. “This will be a weird election, but not in the sense of uniqueness. If anything, #Election2024 is a race to find out who can best ignore recent history and doom the rest of us to repeat the weirdest aspects of it.” #kamalaharris #donaldtrump #timwalz #jdvance #swiftboating ofb.biz/sa1235

  7. Captain Bone Spurs's running mate serves 6 months in Iraq press office: "He was a marine for 4 years, enlisted after Sep. 11th, and served in Iraq" [which is honorable 🫡].

    17-year old enlists in Army National Guard and retires after *24 years* of service to do *more* public service: "He deserted his troops and he wasn't in Afghanistan and didn't have the rank the Nat. Guard says he has."

    Take aways:
    1. Pixie dust: Marine, Sep. 11th, Iraq
    2. #Swiftboating

    edition.cnn.com/2024/08/07/pol

    #Walz #uspol

  8. 'Vance’s opposition to support for Ukraine, in support of which the trained propagandist adopts Russian propaganda, is one of the things that made Trump a fan. And it led him to vote against funding for the military — something that the anti-war Walz did not do.

    Vance the propagandist has made the military service of both his and Walz, the NCO, a campaign issue."

    ~ Marcy Wheeler

    #JDVance #TimWalz #swiftboating #media
    /10

    emptywheel.net/2024/08/08/walz

  9. On a more personal note: senior #NCOs can make or break a unit. Good ones take care of their subordinates and do wonders for #morale, while bad ones terrorize #enlisted personnel and a fair number of the junior #officers, sending morale into the toilet. I’m reasonably sure #Walz was in the former category, and I hope people who served under him speak out against the #swiftboating.

  10. "This is a classic example of privileging the lie…."

    "This" refers to the New York Times' headline,

    "Vance Attacks Walz’s Military Record, Accusing Him of Avoiding a Tour in Iraq."

    Jamison Foser urges readers to contact the New York Times and let that outlet know what they think about what the paper is doing here. A contact link is in Foser's article. I used it and found it easy to give feedback to the NYT.

    #JDVance #TimWalz #swiftboating #media #NewYorkTimes
    /9

  11. As Jamison Foser notes,

    "This is an extremely simple situation: JD Vance is lying about the military service of a fellow veteran for political gain. The story is extremely simple, and extremely important — and it is a story about JD Vance being a liar."

    But as he points out,

    "The New York Times, for example, leads with Vance’s false accusation, not with the truth."

    #JDVance #TimWalz #swiftboating #media #NewYorkTimes
    /8

    findinggravity.net/p/breaking-

  12. "You do have to at least acknowledge the chutzpah of a tech investor backed by a billionaire, who markets himself as just a good ol’ boy from simple folk, telling Tim Walz not to pretend to be something he isn’t."

    ~ Doktor Zoom

    #JDVance #TimWalz #swiftboating #media
    /7

    wonkette.com/p/tim-walz-stole-

  13. "He enlisted in the Nebraska National Guard at the age of 17 and transferred to the Minnesota National Guard 15 years later in 1996."

    #JDVance #TimWalz #swiftboating #media
    /6

  14. "Vance served a single four-year enlistment in the public affairs section in the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, and wrote in his memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, that he was 'lucky to escape any real fighting.'

    Meanwhile, Walz served as an enlisted soldier in the Army National Guard for two decades, ultimately attaining the rank of command sergeant major."

    ~ Ellie Quinlan Houghtaling

    #JDVance #TimWalz #swiftboating #media
    /5

    newrepublic.com/post/184662/jd

  15. "The attacks are reminiscent of the 2004 campaign to discredit the distinguished war record of Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, who served in Vietnam and later criticized the war — an effort led by Chris LaCivita, now a senior adviser to the Trump campaign."

    #JDVance #TimWalz #swiftboating #media
    /4

  16. "There is no evidence that Walz retired to avoid a wartime deployment, and it’s a move that may not work — Walz has faced similar attacks from opponents before during successful races for Congress and governor, in which he explained his Army record in detail but did not make it a central part of his campaign."

    #JDVance #TimWalz #swiftboating #media
    /3

  17. Jared Mitovic, Meridith McGraw, and Connor O'Brien write that "Vance runs a swift boat attack against Walz’s military service," and "the broadside is similar to the campaign to discredit 2004 Democratic nominee John Kerry over his Vietnam service."

    #JDVance #TimWalz #swiftboating #media
    /2

    politico.com/news/2024/08/07/v

  18. As David Kurtz's headline for his morning memo at TPM today says,

    "20 Years Later, Political Press Still Falls Hard For Swift Boat Attacks

    Will They Never Learn?"

    He's talking about the swift boating (i.e., lying) campaign J.D. Vance has mounted against Tim Walz, with media complicity.

    No, David, I'm afraid they WON'T learn. Because they don't intend to learn.

    #JDVance #TimWalz #swiftboating #media
    /1

    talkingpointsmemo.com/morning-

  19. Friday Reads: Twilight’s Last Gleaming

    ““No Mortal Man is Above the Law,” sayeth the Supremes. Enjoy your Independence Day; if the Conflicted Convicted Felon is elected, it’ll be our last.” John Buss, Repeat 1968

    Good Day, Sky Dancers!

    Independence Day has always been my favorite holiday, and it’s my youngest daughter’s too. When we lived in the Quarter, we would always walk our 2 blonde labs to the Mississippi River Bank and watch the left and east bank boats launch a huge fireworks display.  Down here in the Bywater, it’s still the same short walk to the riverbank, but the Poland Avenue Wharf or the newest Crescent Park are the favorite places to go.  Cars always turn to our local NPR station for patriotic music and blast it loud. You can tell when it’s time for the display because all the bars and houses empty into the streets and head south to the banks of the Mississippi River. I have always wondered what past celebrations were like, but that’s a rabbit hole for another day.

    I spent the pre-show hours with friends listening to his industrial band livestream their efforts while sitting in their driveway patio.  It seemed like a normal fourth.  While everyone headed to the river, I headed home to Temple to let her dig a burrow under me to hide from the noise. No displays for me in the last 10 years.  Just time at home in bed comforting Temple. The weird thing this year was the fireworks didn’t seem to bother her, and she spent most of the time spooning me.  Maybe she sensed that my fear was far greater than hers today.  It’s a thought.

    Twilight’s last gleaming from last night at my neighbor’s driveway patio.

    The swiftboating of the democratic candidate season has begun. My friend who owns the bar on the corner told me she’s hearing from others besides me who are looking for places to become expats.  Given the Le Pen elections, I’m researching the south of France right now, although they may soon have their counter-revolution.  Russia is happy about that one.  I’m sure they have high hopes for us.

    If you haven’t seen this little speech, you really should. “Leader of the pro-Trump Project 2025 suggests there will be a new American Revolution.  Kevin Roberts said the revolution will be bloodless “if the left allows it to be.”  This is from the AP but sourced at Politico.

    The leader of a conservative think tank orchestrating plans for a massive overhaul of the federal government in the event of a Republican presidential win said that the country is in the midst of a “second American Revolution” that will be bloodless “if the left allows it to be.”

    Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts made the comments Tuesday on Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast, adding that Republicans are “in the process of taking this country back.”

    Democrats are “apoplectic right now” because the right is winning, Roberts told former U.S. Rep. Dave Brat, one of the podcast’s guest hosts as Bannon is serving a four-month prison term. “And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”

    Roberts’ remarks shed light on how a group that promises to have significant influence over a possible second term for former President Donald Trump is thinking about this moment in American politics. The Heritage Foundation is spearheading Project 2025, a sweeping road map for a new GOP administration that includes plans for dismantling aspects of the federal government and ousting thousands of civil servants in favor of Trump loyalists who will carry out a hard-right agenda without complaint.

    His call for revolution and vague reference to violence also unnerved some Democrats who interpreted it as threatening.

    “This is chilling,” former Democratic presidential candidate Marianne Williamson wrote on the social platform X. “Their idea of a second American Revolution is to undo the first one.”

    James Singer, a spokesperson for President Joe Biden’s reelection campaign, pointed to this week’s Fourth of July holiday in an emailed statement.

    “248 years ago tomorrow America declared independence from a tyrannical king, and now Donald Trump and his allies want to make him one at our expense,” Singer said, adding that Trump and his allies are ”dreaming of a violent revolution to destroy the very idea of America.”

    Roberts, whose name Bannon recently floated to The New York Times as a potential chief of staff option for Trump, also said on the podcast that Republicans should be encouraged by the Supreme Court’s recent immunity ruling.

    Bannon is in jail right now, serving time for contempt of Congress.  The New Republic‘s Parker Malloy has a good point here.  “Why Does the Media Insist on Helping Steve Bannon Act the Martyr? NBC and ABC snagged pre-prison interviews with the far-right globalist. But to what end? They became tools in his propaganda machine.”  The press just falls right in line by normalizing this behavior.

    NBC News’s Vaughn Hillyard and ABC News’s Jonathan Karl recently made a journalistic misstep by interviewing Steve Bannon right before he reported to prison. This move, which might seem innocuous at first glance, actually elevates Bannon’s “political prisoner” narrative, a misleading storyline that does little but bolster the War Room host’s victim complex.

    By interviewing Bannon just before he heads to prison, both NBC and ABC are essentially giving him a platform to paint himself as a martyr.

    It allows Bannon to control the narrative. This plays directly into the hands of Bannon and his supporters, who are eager to cast any legal action against them as part of a broader conspiracy to silence dissent. It’s a classic tactic: position yourself as a victim to garner sympathy and rally support.

    But Bannon is not going to prison for his political beliefs or his support for Donald Trump. He’s going to prison because he defied a congressional subpoena. By allowing Bannon to put some focus on his claims of political persecution, these interviews shift attention away from his actual misconduct and the legal consequences of that misconduct. This undermines the rule of law and gives credence to the idea that powerful individuals can evade accountability by crying foul.

    Beyond that, it normalizes extremist rhetoric. In his interview with Karl, Bannon doubled down on his inflammatory language, discussing “retribution” and the need for investigations and potential imprisonments of political figures. Bannon listed former FBI Director James Comey, FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, former Defense Secretary Mark Esper, former Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark Milley, Attorney General Merrick Garland, and former Attorney General Bill Barr as people who should be “very worried” about prosecution under a second Trump administration. Bannon defended his use of the slogan “Victory or Death!” at the recent Turning Point Action convention and rolled his eyes at Karl for even asking him about his 2020 comments about beheading Dr. Anthony Fauci and FBI Director Christopher Wray.

    Also, from TNR is this headline about the black man running for governor on the insanity platform. “MAGA Gov Candidate’s Ugly, Hateful Rant: “Some Folks Need Killing!” Mark Robinson, the GOP nominee for governor in North Carolina, has a long history of incendiary comments. But he may have topped himself this time.”

    Mark Robinson, the extremist GOP nominee for governor in North Carolina, appeared to endorse political violence in a bizarre and extended rant he delivered on June 30 in a small-town church.

    “Some folks need killing!” Robinson, the state’s lieutenant governor, shouted during a roughly half-hour-long speech in Lake Church in the tiny town of White Lake, in the southeast corner of the state. “It’s time for somebody to say it. It’s not a matter of vengeance. It’s not a matter of being mean or spiteful. It’s a matter of necessity!”

    Robinson’s call for the “killing” of “some folks” came during an extended diatribe in which he attacked an extraordinary assortment of enemies. These ranged from “people who have evil intent” to “wicked people” to those doing things like “torturing and murdering and raping” to socialists and Communists. He also invoked those supposedly undermining America’s founding ideals and leftists allegedly persecuting conservatives by canceling them and doxxing them online.

    In all this, Robinson appeared to endorse lethal violence against these unnamed enemies, particularly on the left, though he wasn’t exactly clear on which “folks” are the ones who “need killing.”

    Robinson, a self-described “MAGA Republican,” has a long history of wildly radical and unhinged moments. He has linked homosexuality to pedophilia, called for the arrest of trans women, pushed hallucinogenic antisemitic conspiracy theories, endorsed the vile “birther” conspiracy about Barack Obama, described Michelle Obama as a man, hinted at the need to violently oppose federal law enforcement and the government, and posted memes mocking and denying the brutal, violent assault on Nancy Pelosi’s husband, among many other things.

    My belief is he said the quiet part out loud. My governor isn’t calling for the death penalty for anyone who doesn’t fit the White Christian Nationalist mold or stays quiet, afraid, and hidden, but I do believe he’d do it if any other MAGA governor started the trend.  As JJ says, fear for people you love.  As to the swiftboating of Biden for a cold, let’s show you this oldie but goodie of just a smidgen of the swiftboating of Hillary. “Remember when Hillary Clinton had pneumonia and showed up anyway at a 9/11 memorial & media ripped her for that?”  (via @joannebamberg with Karolic Kuns and me in the amen corner.)

    Even New York Magazine is in on it. “The Conspiracy of Silence to Protect Joe Biden. The president’s mental decline was like a dark family secret for many elite supporters.”  Biden, meanwhile, is on a prove-them all full of a shit tour of duty.  Here’s another ‘nattering nabob of negatism’ NBC News. (With no apologies to rotten apple dead Spiro Agnew.)

     President Joe Biden will hold a rally Friday in Wisconsin and then sit for his first televised interview since his disastrous debate performance last week, events could be crucial in determining whether he can salvage his embattled candidacy.

    The interview with anchor George Stephanopoulos of ABC News is shaping up to be one of the most high-stakes moments for a president or a candidate in many years. Democratic elected officials, donors and voters will be closely watching to see whether he can still deliver in an adversarial setting and turn in a performance worthy of being the party’s nominee to defeat Donald Trump this fall.

    The interview will “air in its entirety as a primetime special” at 8 p.m. ET Friday, ABC said, adding that a “transcript of the unedited interview will be made available the same day.”

    Before that, Biden is expected to speak this afternoon at a campaign rally in Madison, Wisconsin. At the rally, Biden will “underscore the stakes of this election for our democracy, our rights and freedoms, and our economy,” a campaign official said. Also speaking will be Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, and Rep. Mark Pocan, D-Wis., among others.

    The White House said the interview team from ABC “will be with us all day in Wisconsin” and able to cover the rally event and to observe the president as he participates in his schedule, and said it has “some flexibility” around the length of the sit-down but “no exact estimate” of the duration of the conversation.

    Read the next paragraph, which I will not print here, and try not to bang your head against your desk, wall, or coffee table.  Law Professor Richard W. Painter is floating a Constitutional Amendment on X.

    Const. Amend. 28: “The President and the judges of the United States courts including the Supreme Court, shall be bound by the criminal laws of the United States and also by financial disclosure and conflict of interest laws enacted by Congress.” So who votes against?

    If you want a real shock, go see The Economist Cover Picture today with the heading “No way to Run a Country.”  The attached story is “Biden Must Withdraw.”   This is from a country where the General Election just kicked the Conservative PM (a hedge fund manager) and replaced him with a Human Rights Lawyer and member of the Labour Party.  Fourteen years of Conservative Rule has just been tossed for something different.  Of course, CNN has joined the swiftboating effort. This is from Dr. Sanjay Gupta at CNN. “It’s time for President Biden to undergo detailed cognitive and neurological testing and share his results.”

    So, I have to share this one from the New York Times even though I’m about to cancel my subscription. “Biden Tells Governors He Needs More Sleep and Less Work at Night.  The president’s opening remark to a group of key Democratic leaders — that he was in the race to stay — chilled any talk of his withdrawal, participants said.”  The usual suspects, Reid J. Epstein and Maggie Haberman, reported it.

    President Biden told a gathering of Democratic governors that he needs to get more sleep and work fewer hours, including curtailing events after 8 p.m., according to two people who participated in the meeting and several others briefed on his comments.

    The remarks on Wednesday were a stark acknowledgment of fatigue from the 81-year-old president during a meeting intended to reassure more than two dozen of his most important supporters that he is still in command of his job and capable of mounting a robust campaign against former President Donald J. Trump.

    Mr. Biden’s comments about needing more rest came shortly after The New York Times reported that current and former officials have noticed that the president’s lapses over the past few months have become more frequent and more pronounced.

    But Mr. Biden told the governors, some of whom were at the White House while others participated virtually, that he was staying in the race.

    He described his extensive foreign travel in the weeks before the debate, something that the White House and his allies have in recent days cited as the reason for his halting performance during the debate. Initially, Mr. Biden’s campaign blamed a cold, putting out word about midway through the debate amid a series of social media posts questioning why Mr. Biden was struggling.

    Mr. Biden said that he told his staff he needed to get more sleep, multiple people familiar with what took place in the meeting said. He repeatedly referenced pushing too hard and not listening to his team about his schedule, and said he needed to work fewer hours and avoid events scheduled after 8 p.m., according to one of the people familiar with what took place at the meeting.

    After Gov. Josh Green of Hawaii, a physician, asked Mr. Biden questions about the status of his health, Mr. Biden replied that his health was fine. “It’s just my brain,” he added, according to three people familiar with what took place — a remark that some in the room took as a joke, including Gov. Kathy Hochul of New York, according to a person close to her. But at least one governor did not, and was puzzled by it.

    Jen O’Malley Dillon, Mr. Biden’s campaign chair, who attended the meeting, said in a statement that he had said, “All kidding aside,” a recollection confirmed by another person briefed on the meeting. Ms. O’Malley Dillon added: “He was clearly making a joke.”

    So, I fully admit to being depressed and worried.  I know that BB stopped her NYT subscription.  I hope John Buss doesn’t mind. I shared this bit he posted to his FaceBook about canceling his. I seriously worry about him in North Carolina, too.  None of us in the old Confederate States are safe right now.

    This is from a poll taken in April and reported by the AP on May 1. “Half of US adults mistrust media coverage of 2024 elections, a poll finds. About half of Americans say they are extremely or very concerned that news organizations will report inaccuracies or misinformation during the election. According to a poll, 42% express worry that news outlets will use generative artificial intelligence to create stories. (AP Video: Serkan Gurbuz)”

    I think it’s likely that if they redid that this month, they’d find a statistically significant increase in the number of people saying that.  However, I admit that I live in the Southern City that promptly surrendered when Captain David Farragut of the Union Navy bombed two forts and arrived at the port.  We are a haven for the GLBT community.  We also have a strong Jewish presence and are well known for being a place of refuge for many diasporas.  Our new governor hates us and wants to take away our city charter, which is the legal means by which we don’t become the rest of the state.  You have to wonder how many cities like ours will come under direct attack if MAGA either gets its way or doesn’t.

    The only way out of this is to VOTE and get everyone you know to VOTE because our lives depend on it.

    I really hope you got to enjoy a little celebration on Independence Day.  I’m still on board with ensuring liberty and justice for all.  I am also standing by the Biden/Harris ticket.  Again, you realize that I have had a lot of gripes in the past about Biden and what happened to Anita Hill. It is somewhat karmic that what is going on now is somewhat built in by the bad decision he, Teddy Kennedy, and John Kerry made about Clarence Thomas. Forty-eight percent of the Senate was against his confirmation. He should’ve been Borked.  That, unfortunately, is toxic water under the bridge of democracy, but we have what we have now, and it is what it is.  Remember the words of Benjamin Franklin and fight for it.  The Roberts Supreme Court just took down the republic.

    “A republic, if you can keep it.”

    –Benjamin Franklin’s response to Elizabeth Willing Powel’s question: “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?”

    What’s on your reading and blogging list today?

    I’m sentimental, if you know what I mean
    I love the country but I can’t stand the scene
    And I’m neither left or right
    I’m just staying home tonight
    Getting lost in that hopeless little screen
    But I’m stubborn as those garbage bags
    That time cannot decay
    I’m junk but I’m still holding up
    This little wild bouquet
    Democracy is coming to the U.S.A

    #Repeat1968 #aRepublicIfYouCanKeepIt #CoupAttempt #democracy #IndependenceDay #insurrection #JohnBuss #LeonardCohen #MediaAndSwiftboating #Project2025 #Swiftboating