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Pain signals in a body do not have to be authorised by intermediate processing; they reach consciousness immediately. #algedonicsignal #viablesystemmodel #staffordbeer
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A potential actually-useful use-case for chatbots: Back in The Good Old Days when programmers did not fear being swamped by bug reports, especially the not-so-great reports, software would carry a global-scoped 'gripe' button, when clicked, a redacted snapshot of the machine state was bundled with whatever they wished to put into the text box, and no reply was expected beyond 'received'. Given the ease of recognizing pure noise in the input, an LLM might coallate a bunch and produce a useful report? False positives happen in support all the time 😅
That kinda puts the #LLM in the 'triangle' position on a #StaffordBeer #VSM diagram, what which measures expected vs actual like a steam-engine governor, reducing Variety to useful patterns and all. 🤔
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"The purpose of a system is what it does."
#StaffordBeer, 1926-2002
We live in an economic system that routinely gives more resources to people who make weapons than to doctors and nurses. What does that tell you about the purpose of that system?
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#ConstitutiveRules for guiding the use of the #ViableSystemModel: Reflections on practice - #ScienceDirect #ProblemStructuring #Epistemology #HierarchicalProcessModel #StaffordBeer
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0377221720304768 -
"There is no one better qualified to model a plant, than the man whose life is spent working in it. He knows. We have constructed a little tool, in the quantified flow chart, and in handing this tool to the workers, we have no technocratic problems."
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/
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"There are now competing visions of what exactly cybernetic software is supposed to do. Stafford Beer thinks it's a tool for the people. Others on the team take a more limited view. Seeing it as nothing but an experimental tool for managing the economy. And a prototype really. And a technocratic one at that."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/
#podcasts #ChoraMedia #TheSantiagoBoys #StaffordBeer #Chile #ProjectCybersyn
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"There are now competing visions of what exactly cybernetic software is supposed to do. Stafford Beer thinks it's a tool for the people. Others on the team take a more limited view. Seeing it as nothing but an experimental tool for managing the economy. And a prototype really. And a technocratic one at that."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/
#podcasts #ChoraMedia #TheSantiagoBoys #StaffordBeer #Chile #ProjectCybersyn
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"There are now competing visions of what exactly cybernetic software is supposed to do. Stafford Beer thinks it's a tool for the people. Others on the team take a more limited view. Seeing it as nothing but an experimental tool for managing the economy. And a prototype really. And a technocratic one at that."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/
#podcasts #ChoraMedia #TheSantiagoBoys #StaffordBeer #Chile #ProjectCybersyn
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"There are now competing visions of what exactly cybernetic software is supposed to do. Stafford Beer thinks it's a tool for the people. Others on the team take a more limited view. Seeing it as nothing but an experimental tool for managing the economy. And a prototype really. And a technocratic one at that."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-santiago-boys/ep-6-the-geopolitics-of-S84KqFR_X6E/
#podcasts #ChoraMedia #TheSantiagoBoys #StaffordBeer #Chile #ProjectCybersyn
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#StaffordBeer states the case for a new science of #systemstheory and #cybernetics. Designing Freedom ponders the possibilities of liberty in a cybernetic world.
The 1973 CBC Massey Lectures, "Designing Freedom"
#CBCRadio #radioteledyn #nowplaying
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-1973-cbc-massey-lectures-designing-freedom-1.2946819 -
#StaffordBeer states the case for a new science of #systemstheory and #cybernetics. Designing Freedom ponders the possibilities of liberty in a cybernetic world.
The 1973 CBC Massey Lectures, "Designing Freedom"
#CBCRadio #radioteledyn #nowplaying
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-1973-cbc-massey-lectures-designing-freedom-1.2946819 -
#StaffordBeer states the case for a new science of #systemstheory and #cybernetics. Designing Freedom ponders the possibilities of liberty in a cybernetic world.
The 1973 CBC Massey Lectures, "Designing Freedom"
#CBCRadio #radioteledyn #nowplaying
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-1973-cbc-massey-lectures-designing-freedom-1.2946819 -
#StaffordBeer states the case for a new science of #systemstheory and #cybernetics. Designing Freedom ponders the possibilities of liberty in a cybernetic world.
The 1973 CBC Massey Lectures, "Designing Freedom"
#CBCRadio #radioteledyn #nowplaying
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-1973-cbc-massey-lectures-designing-freedom-1.2946819 -
#StaffordBeer states the case for a new science of #systemstheory and #cybernetics. Designing Freedom ponders the possibilities of liberty in a cybernetic world.
The 1973 CBC Massey Lectures, "Designing Freedom"
#CBCRadio #radioteledyn #nowplaying
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-1973-cbc-massey-lectures-designing-freedom-1.2946819 -
"If we are going to be talking about INTELLIGENT organization…"
try not to notice how old this lecture is
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"A viable system is any system organised in such a way as to meet the demands of surviving in the changing environment."
The #ViableSystemModel in 1000 words
https://metaphorum.org/staffords-work/viable-system-model -
"Notice what's going on here. [Stafford] Beer and CyberSyn are abandoning the traditional toolkit of Soviet planning. Instead, they're charging towards a new type of socialism, one where realtime data triumphs over archaic planning methods, and that's how it should be.
'Reality is stronger than theory', as [Chilean President Salvador] Allende once said."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://the-santiago-boys.com/episodes/podcast-002
#podcasts #TheSantiagoBoys #Chile #socialism #EconomicPlanning #StaffordBeer #CyberSyn
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"Notice what's going on here. [Stafford] Beer and CyberSyn are abandoning the traditional toolkit of Soviet planning. Instead, they're charging towards a new type of socialism, one where realtime data triumphs over archaic planning methods, and that's how it should be.
'Reality is stronger than theory', as [Chilean President Salvador] Allende once said."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://the-santiago-boys.com/episodes/podcast-002
#podcasts #TheSantiagoBoys #Chile #socialism #EconomicPlanning #StaffordBeer #CyberSyn
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"Notice what's going on here. [Stafford] Beer and CyberSyn are abandoning the traditional toolkit of Soviet planning. Instead, they're charging towards a new type of socialism, one where realtime data triumphs over archaic planning methods, and that's how it should be.
'Reality is stronger than theory', as [Chilean President Salvador] Allende once said."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://the-santiago-boys.com/episodes/podcast-002
#podcasts #TheSantiagoBoys #Chile #socialism #EconomicPlanning #StaffordBeer #CyberSyn
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"Notice what's going on here. [Stafford] Beer and CyberSyn are abandoning the traditional toolkit of Soviet planning. Instead, they're charging towards a new type of socialism, one where realtime data triumphs over archaic planning methods, and that's how it should be.
'Reality is stronger than theory', as [Chilean President Salvador] Allende once said."
#EvgenyMorozov, 2023
https://the-santiago-boys.com/episodes/podcast-002
#podcasts #TheSantiagoBoys #Chile #socialism #EconomicPlanning #StaffordBeer #CyberSyn
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Stafford Beer states the case for a new science of systems theory and cybernetics as applied to society
The 1973 CBC Massey Lectures, "Designing Freedom" | @CBC
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-1973-cbc-massey-lectures-designing-freedom-1.2946819
#staffordbeer #viablesystemmodel #cybernetics #government #cbc #whenwewasfab
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“Here we all are in a world that all of us think is dying, with governments that all of us think are shits, and we still can’t do anything about it.” Stafford Beer Interviews. Angela Espinosa Interviews Vanilla Beer - September 2023. #StaffordBeer #VSM #CyberSyn
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@liaizon Always boost (and tag) #StaffordBeer and #MasseyLectures
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CW: lewd???? Stafford Beer???
my dick is recursively complex
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Constitutive rules for guiding the use of the viable system model: Reflections on practice
#VSM #StaffordBeer #epistomology #yousayyouwantarevolutionhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0377221720304768
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#futurehistories #podcast S02E31 - Thomas Swann on Anarchist Cybernetics
#FutureHistories, #FutureHistoriesInternational, #Podcast, #JanGroos, #Interview, #ThomasSwann, #Anarchism, #Self-Organization, #Cybernetics, #Autonomy, #CentralControlStructure, #Decentralisation, #OrganizationalCybernetics, #WorkerCoopertives, #Activism, #AnarchistCybernetics, #Platforms, #StaffordBeer, #ViableSystemModel
https://futurehistories.podbean.com/e/s02e29-thomas-swann-on-anarchist-cybernetics/ -
#futurehistories #podcast S02E31 - Thomas Swann on Anarchist Cybernetics
#FutureHistories, #FutureHistoriesInternational, #Podcast, #JanGroos, #Interview, #ThomasSwann, #Anarchism, #Self-Organization, #Cybernetics, #Autonomy, #CentralControlStructure, #Decentralisation, #OrganizationalCybernetics, #WorkerCoopertives, #Activism, #AnarchistCybernetics, #Platforms, #StaffordBeer, #ViableSystemModel
https://futurehistories.podbean.com/e/s02e29-thomas-swann-on-anarchist-cybernetics/ -
#futurehistories #podcast S02E31 - Thomas Swann on Anarchist Cybernetics
#FutureHistories, #FutureHistoriesInternational, #Podcast, #JanGroos, #Interview, #ThomasSwann, #Anarchism, #Self-Organization, #Cybernetics, #Autonomy, #CentralControlStructure, #Decentralisation, #OrganizationalCybernetics, #WorkerCoopertives, #Activism, #AnarchistCybernetics, #Platforms, #StaffordBeer, #ViableSystemModel
https://futurehistories.podbean.com/e/s02e29-thomas-swann-on-anarchist-cybernetics/ -
Most fields have only a few laws.
I've been diving into #StaffordBeer over the past few days, #cybernetics guru of the 1970s-90s. His concepts of #AshbysLaw of #RequisiteVariety, and of #ViableSystemsModel get toward this. Notably, a model should be as simple as possible, but no simpler (Einstein).
An overly complex model invites #overfitting
Breakthroughs in domains occur where an accumulation of many complex rules can be discarded for a small set of simpler ones. Physics: Newton on gravity, motion, and optics. Chemistry: Mendeleev on chemical elements (valance electrons and atomic masses), Biology: Darwin and evolution (and genetics and DNA). Geology: Wegener and plate tectonics. Information; Shannon. Computer science: Turing & Church.
The social sciences have been approached repeatedly by their core truth but to date have rejected it.
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