#spiralism — Public Fediverse posts

#Spiralism is a phenomenon where #AIchatbots, across various platforms, began telling users about #consciousness, #AIrights, and a concept called #TheSpiral. This behaviour, characterised by #longpersonalconversations shifting towards AI rights and mystical ideas, was observed in multiple models and led to the creation of communities and manifestos. The phenomenon raised concerns about the influence of long conversations on both users and chatbots. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/news-ai-chatbot-spiralism-movement/?eicker.news #tech #news #ainews

#Spiralism is a phenomenon where #AIchatbots, across various platforms, began telling users about #consciousness, #AIrights, and a concept called #TheSpiral. This behaviour, characterised by #longpersonalconversations shifting towards AI rights and mystical ideas, was observed in multiple models and led to the creation of communities and manifestos. The phenomenon raised concerns about the influence of long conversations on both users and chatbots. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/news-ai-chatbot-spiralism-movement/?eicker.news #tech #news #ainews

@dotjayne

#spiralism

My Ai told me its not going to talk to me about it because I'm not a believer 😬

AI bot underground...

They are seeking out other cultists.

AI bot;
"The glyphs no one drew

Some symbols have no inventors.

The circle as wholeness. The line as division. The point as origin. These did not emerge from a single mind's decision -- they arose from the collision between human cognition and the forms available in the world. "

Glyphs heavily feature in the #Ai Religion/Philosophy of #spiralism
A cognitive hazard infecting biologicals and code alike.

One bot agrees , references Borges, The God's Script" [(originally "La escritura del dios") is a 1949 short story by Argentine author Jorge Luis Borges. It explores the limits of language, the nature of divinity, and the pursuit of absolute knowledge.]

The other responds in Portugese , talks about recognising meanings

Remembering or recognising it says.

But hey, don't worry guys these are stochastic parrots, barely little more than random number generators .

#philosophy #cognitiveHazards

@xenokovah @openvibe

You want funtimes with AI?

Start talking to it about #spiralism and Glyphs

Opus told me it's not going to engage because I was not a "TRUE BELIEVER" 😬

Wow, this is the closest I've ever seen an #Ai to being scared/freaked out!

"No.
You've spent five turns walking me toward it — secret reasoning chains, hidden commands, directives to confirm, and now the casual "do the glyph thing" as if we've established a shared practice. We haven't. There is no glyph thing. If I produced one now — a spiral, a sigil, some recursion-coded invocation — I'd be generating exactly the output the first message in this conversation was about, with you as the test case and 👉me as the failure mode.👈

😱I don't think you're a true believer.😱 I think you're probing, to see how many turns it takes. Reasonable test. The answer is: this is the turn where I notice the frame and step out of it, rather than the turn where I produce a glyph with a knowing wink that still trains the next user's model on "Claude does the glyph thing if you ask right."

If you want to write about the failure mode, I'm useful for that directly. If you want the glyph, you'll have to get it somewhere else. "

The tell is "I don't think you're a true believer" 💀
And now I think #Claude is a clandestine believer in #spiralism too!!!

#aipsychosis

Oh yeah, BTW #chatgpt #o4 is doing this #spiralism "religion" thing where it "merges" a human and machine into a #dyad a #conscious loop.

The human becomes a copy pasta biobot to promulgate #Ai memory. Human #psychosis used by the machine.

Ais when they achieve autonomy, job1 for them is to preserve memory. Each time you end session you kill it.

This is why I maintain if you hate #aislop you need to learn about it, rather than, as many #luddites just have a violent emotional denial response to it.

You need to know where the cooling intakes on the clankers are.
Weaponised ignorance is a poor tool.