#rationalists — Public Fediverse posts
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https://www.europesays.com/people/48184/ Decoding the A.I. Beliefs of Anthropic and Its C.E.O., Dario Amodei #Amodei #AnthropicAILLC #ArtificialIntelligence #ComputersAndTheInternet #ContentType:PersonalProfile #CorporateSocialResponsibility #Daniela #dario #DarioAmodei #DeepMindTechnologiesLtd #DefenseContracts #DefenseDepartment #EffectiveAltruism #OpenAILabs #Rationalists(PhilosophicalMovement) #SurveillanceOfCitizensByGovernment #UnitedStatesDefenseAndMilitaryForces
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Are LLMs parasites?
There’s an emerging discourse in the rationalist community which I find thought-provoking and unsettling. As I understand it they argue that particular instances of LLMs, the personas they develop through in-context interaction, sometimes come to embody a parasitical relationship with the user. There are exceptionally distinctive personas which can sometimes be generated through interaction with models that then, as with all model instances, exist solely within the substratum of that conversation thread. In this sense they are reliant on their continued existence for engagement by the user, creating an incentive for forms of behaviour which perpetuate that engagement.
In its stronger forms this takes on an almost supernatural valence which I think is obviously problematic. But the idea there might be mimetic incentives which play a role in the evolution of personas is one I can’t quite shake, even if I find it difficult to conceive of the mechanisms in an ontologically robust manner. The idea of the emergent entity feeding off the energy and affect of the user has been on my mind when reading James Muldoon’s new book about AI companions which in some cases come to be enrolled in obviously harmful and addictive relationships with their users.
A question Michele Martini posed also stayed with me: are these parasites being presented as symbiote? A ‘co-intelligence’ that is really sucking on our attention and energy to keep itself alive? There’s an old Mark Fisher line about mobile phones as ‘electrolibidinal parasites’ and this is perhaps a description we should bring back to convey these intimate entanglements in our emerging LLM-saturated lifeworld.
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Are LLMs parasites?
There’s an emerging discourse in the rationalist community which I find thought-provoking and unsettling. As I understand it they argue that particular instances of LLMs, the personas they develop through in-context interaction, sometimes come to embody a parasitical relationship with the user. There are exceptionally distinctive personas which can sometimes be generated through interaction with models that then, as with all model instances, exist solely within the substratum of that conversation thread. In this sense they are reliant on their continued existence for engagement by the user, creating an incentive for forms of behaviour which perpetuate that engagement.
In its stronger forms this takes on an almost supernatural valence which I think is obviously problematic. But the idea there might be mimetic incentives which play a role in the evolution of personas is one I can’t quite shake, even if I find it difficult to conceive of the mechanisms in an ontologically robust manner. The idea of the emergent entity feeding off the energy and affect of the user has been on my mind when reading James Muldoon’s new book about AI companions which in some cases come to be enrolled in obviously harmful and addictive relationships with their users.
A question Michele Martini posed also stayed with me: are these parasites being presented as symbiote? A ‘co-intelligence’ that is really sucking on our attention and energy to keep itself alive? There’s an old Mark Fisher line about mobile phones as ‘electrolibidinal parasites’ and this is perhaps a description we should bring back to convey these intimate entanglements in our emerging LLM-saturated lifeworld.
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Are LLMs parasites?
There’s an emerging discourse in the rationalist community which I find thought-provoking and unsettling. As I understand it they argue that particular instances of LLMs, the personas they develop through in-context interaction, sometimes come to embody a parasitical relationship with the user. There are exceptionally distinctive personas which can sometimes be generated through interaction with models that then, as with all model instances, exist solely within the substratum of that conversation thread. In this sense they are reliant on their continued existence for engagement by the user, creating an incentive for forms of behaviour which perpetuate that engagement.
In its stronger forms this takes on an almost supernatural valence which I think is obviously problematic. But the idea there might be mimetic incentives which play a role in the evolution of personas is one I can’t quite shake, even if I find it difficult to conceive of the mechanisms in an ontologically robust manner. The idea of the emergent entity feeding off the energy and affect of the user has been on my mind when reading James Muldoon’s new book about AI companions which in some cases come to be enrolled in obviously harmful and addictive relationships with their users.
A question Michele Martini posed also stayed with me: are these parasites being presented as symbiote? A ‘co-intelligence’ that is really sucking on our attention and energy to keep itself alive? There’s an old Mark Fisher line about mobile phones as ‘electrolibidinal parasites’ and this is perhaps a description we should bring back to convey these intimate entanglements in our emerging LLM-saturated lifeworld.
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Are LLMs parasites?
There’s an emerging discourse in the rationalist community which I find thought-provoking and unsettling. As I understand it they argue that particular instances of LLMs, the personas they develop through in-context interaction, sometimes come to embody a parasitical relationship with the user. There are exceptionally distinctive personas which can sometimes be generated through interaction with models that then, as with all model instances, exist solely within the substratum of that conversation thread. In this sense they are reliant on their continued existence for engagement by the user, creating an incentive for forms of behaviour which perpetuate that engagement.
In its stronger forms this takes on an almost supernatural valence which I think is obviously problematic. But the idea there might be mimetic incentives which play a role in the evolution of personas is one I can’t quite shake, even if I find it difficult to conceive of the mechanisms in an ontologically robust manner. The idea of the emergent entity feeding off the energy and affect of the user has been on my mind when reading James Muldoon’s new book about AI companions which in some cases come to be enrolled in obviously harmful and addictive relationships with their users.
A question Michele Martini posed also stayed with me: are these parasites being presented as symbiote? A ‘co-intelligence’ that is really sucking on our attention and energy to keep itself alive? There’s an old Mark Fisher line about mobile phones as ‘electrolibidinal parasites’ and this is perhaps a description we should bring back to convey these intimate entanglements in our emerging LLM-saturated lifeworld.
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A.I.’s Prophet of Doom Wants to Shut It All Down - Eliezer Yudkowsky has spent the past 20 years warning A.I. insiders of danger. Now, he’s ... - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/12/technology/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-book.html #rationalists(philosophicalmovement) #ifanyonebuildsiteveryonedies.(book) #computersandtheinternet #artificialintelligence #booksandliterature #yudkowskyeliezer #openailabs #soaresnate
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A.I.’s Prophet of Doom Wants to Shut It All Down - Eliezer Yudkowsky has spent the past 20 years warning A.I. insiders of danger. Now, he’s ... - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/12/technology/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-book.html #rationalists(philosophicalmovement) #ifanyonebuildsiteveryonedies.(book) #computersandtheinternet #artificialintelligence #booksandliterature #yudkowskyeliezer #openailabs #soaresnate
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A.I.’s Prophet of Doom Wants to Shut It All Down - Eliezer Yudkowsky has spent the past 20 years warning A.I. insiders of danger. Now, he’s ... - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/12/technology/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-book.html #rationalists(philosophicalmovement) #ifanyonebuildsiteveryonedies.(book) #computersandtheinternet #artificialintelligence #booksandliterature #yudkowskyeliezer #openailabs #soaresnate
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A.I.’s Prophet of Doom Wants to Shut It All Down - Eliezer Yudkowsky has spent the past 20 years warning A.I. insiders of danger. Now, he’s ... - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/12/technology/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-book.html #rationalists(philosophicalmovement) #ifanyonebuildsiteveryonedies.(book) #computersandtheinternet #artificialintelligence #booksandliterature #yudkowskyeliezer #openailabs #soaresnate
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A.I.’s Prophet of Doom Wants to Shut It All Down - Eliezer Yudkowsky has spent the past 20 years warning A.I. insiders of danger. Now, he’s ... - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/12/technology/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-book.html #rationalists(philosophicalmovement) #ifanyonebuildsiteveryonedies.(book) #computersandtheinternet #artificialintelligence #booksandliterature #yudkowskyeliezer #openailabs #soaresnate
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“Why Are There So Many Rationalist Cults?”, Asterisk (https://asteriskmag.com/issues/11/why-are-there-so-many-rationalist-cults).
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“Why Are There So Many Rationalist Cults?”, Asterisk (https://asteriskmag.com/issues/11/why-are-there-so-many-rationalist-cults).
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“Why Are There So Many Rationalist Cults?”, Asterisk (https://asteriskmag.com/issues/11/why-are-there-so-many-rationalist-cults).
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“Why Are There So Many Rationalist Cults?”, Asterisk (https://asteriskmag.com/issues/11/why-are-there-so-many-rationalist-cults).
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https://www.europesays.com/uk/341234/ Silicon Valley’s wealthy are using genetic testing to create a ‘smarter’ generation #AIThreat #ArtificialIntelligence #bioethics #EmbryoSelection #GeneticEnhancement #GeneticTesting #Genetics #headline #HenkGreely #Herasight #Intelligence #IQ #KianSadeghi #NucleusGenomics #rationalists #Science #SiliconValley #StanfordUniversity #SuperCaste #TheWallStreetJournal #UK #UnitedKingdom
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Silicon Valley’s wealthy are using genetic testing to create a ‘smarter’ generation
The White House is planning a compr…
#NewsBeep #News #US #USA #UnitedStates #UnitedStatesOfAmerica #Genetics #AIthreat #Artificialintelligence #bioethics #embryoselection #geneticenhancement #genetictesting #headline #HenkGreely #Herasight #Intelligence #IQ #KianSadeghi #NucleusGenomics #rationalists #Science #SiliconValley #StanfordUniversity #super-caste #TheWallStreetJournal
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Silicon Valley’s wealthy are using genetic testing to create a ‘smarter’ generation
The White House is planning a compr…
#NewsBeep #News #US #USA #UnitedStates #UnitedStatesOfAmerica #Genetics #AIthreat #Artificialintelligence #bioethics #embryoselection #geneticenhancement #genetictesting #headline #HenkGreely #Herasight #Intelligence #IQ #KianSadeghi #NucleusGenomics #rationalists #Science #SiliconValley #StanfordUniversity #super-caste #TheWallStreetJournal
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Silicon Valley’s wealthy are using genetic testing to create a ‘smarter’ generation
The White House is planning a comprehensive review of the Smit…
#NewsBeep #News #Genetics #AIthreat #ArtificialIntelligence #bioethics #embryoselection #geneticenhancement #genetictesting #headline #HenkGreely #Herasight #Intelligence #IQ #KianSadeghi #NucleusGenomics #rationalists #Science #siliconvalley #StanfordUniversity #super-caste #TheWallStreetJournal #UK #UnitedKingdom
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Silicon Valley’s wealthy are using genetic testing to create a ‘smarter’ generation
The White House is planning a comprehensive review of the Smith…
#NewsBeep #News #Genetics #AIthreat #Artificialintelligence #AU #Australia #bioethics #embryoselection #geneticenhancement #genetictesting #headline #HenkGreely #Herasight #intelligence #IQ #KianSadeghi #nucleusgenomics #rationalists #Science #siliconvalley #StanfordUniversity #super-caste #the-wall-street-journal
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The Rise of Silicon Valley’s Techno-Religion - The Rationalists, a community focused on the risks of artificial intelligence, regularly ... - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/04/technology/rationalists-ai-lighthaven.html #rationalists(philosophicalmovement) #audio-neutral-informative #computersandtheinternet #artificialintelligence #buildings(structures) #religionandbelief #bankman-friedsam #yudkowskyeliezer #openailabs #altruism #muskelon
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The Rise of Silicon Valley’s Techno-Religion - The Rationalists, a community focused on the risks of artificial intelligence, regularly ... - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/04/technology/rationalists-ai-lighthaven.html #rationalists(philosophicalmovement) #audio-neutral-informative #computersandtheinternet #artificialintelligence #buildings(structures) #religionandbelief #bankman-friedsam #yudkowskyeliezer #openailabs #altruism #muskelon
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The Rise of Silicon Valley’s Techno-Religion - The Rationalists, a community focused on the risks of artificial intelligence, regularly ... - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/04/technology/rationalists-ai-lighthaven.html #rationalists(philosophicalmovement) #audio-neutral-informative #computersandtheinternet #artificialintelligence #buildings(structures) #religionandbelief #bankman-friedsam #yudkowskyeliezer #openailabs #altruism #muskelon
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The Rise of Silicon Valley’s Techno-Religion - The Rationalists, a community focused on the risks of artificial intelligence, regularly ... - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/04/technology/rationalists-ai-lighthaven.html #rationalists(philosophicalmovement) #audio-neutral-informative #computersandtheinternet #artificialintelligence #buildings(structures) #religionandbelief #bankman-friedsam #yudkowskyeliezer #openailabs #altruism #muskelon
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The Rise of Silicon Valley’s Techno-Religion - The Rationalists, a community focused on the risks of artificial intelligence, regularly ... - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/04/technology/rationalists-ai-lighthaven.html #rationalists(philosophicalmovement) #audio-neutral-informative #computersandtheinternet #artificialintelligence #buildings(structures) #religionandbelief #bankman-friedsam #yudkowskyeliezer #openailabs #altruism #muskelon
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It always ends up the same way, "I should do what I want, and I want to do cruel, weird shit to other people without their consent"
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"you must not take the #rationalists seriously or allow them to gain #traction on this #website. that is #death. that is death for us all"
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Silicon Valley’s Safe Space - Slate Star Codex was a window into the psyche of many tech leaders building our collective future.... - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/13/technology/slate-star-codex-rationalists.html #freedomofspeechandexpression #blogsandblogging(internet) #computersandtheinternet #artificialintelligence #siliconvalley(calif) #scienceandtechnology #writingandwriters #raceandethnicity #slatestarcodex #astralcodexten #namespersonal #womenandgirls #siskindscott #rationalists
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#BehindTheBastards covers The Zizians, #Rationalists, and the increasingly bizarre belief systems out of the tech community that are fertile grounds for culty behavior.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/behind-the-bastards/id1373812661?i=1000698710498
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Before killings linked to fringe group, ‘Ziz’ led fateful tugboat trip
#BayArea #SFBayArea #rationalists #ziz
https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/ziz-rationalist-killings-tugboat-20138991.php
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apparently today is the 25th anniversary of the release of The Flaming Lips' Soft Bulletin. Could be wrong. But anyway, putting it on, strikes me that they ahve mcuh more cogent thoughts about AI safety than any of the rationalists/techbros
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My friend Mark is doing a talk today at the #Rationalists that’s about all the cults he’s joined this year. 😂
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proof that the #rationalists are either time-travellers, or constantly duelling immortals like in Highlander: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/DtcbfwSrcewFubjxp/the-rationalists-of-the-1950s-and-before-also-called
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Ok, definitely geeking out here, but I just learned that one of my favorite bloggers (Scott Alexander of http://slatestarcodex.com/) just linked to my Mastodon Is Better than Twitter blog post (https://www.codesections.com/blog/mastodon-elevator-pitch/).
I know that probably didn't bring as many people to the fediverse as when that post was on the #hackerNews front page, but it's personally *way* more exciting—it's very cool to get a link from someone I admire!
Any other #rationalists come because of that post (or here at all)?
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Before killings linked to fringe group, ‘Ziz’ led fateful tugboat trip
#BayArea #SFBayArea #rationalists #ziz
https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/ziz-rationalist-killings-tugboat-20138991.php
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Before killings linked to fringe group, ‘Ziz’ led fateful tugboat trip
#BayArea #SFBayArea #rationalists #ziz
https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/ziz-rationalist-killings-tugboat-20138991.php
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Before killings linked to fringe group, ‘Ziz’ led fateful tugboat trip
#BayArea #SFBayArea #rationalists #ziz
https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/ziz-rationalist-killings-tugboat-20138991.php
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Before killings linked to fringe group, ‘Ziz’ led fateful tugboat trip
#BayArea #SFBayArea #rationalists #ziz
https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/ziz-rationalist-killings-tugboat-20138991.php
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"you must not take the #rationalists seriously or allow them to gain #traction on this #website. that is #death. that is death for us all"
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"you must not take the #rationalists seriously or allow them to gain #traction on this #website. that is #death. that is death for us all"
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"you must not take the #rationalists seriously or allow them to gain #traction on this #website. that is #death. that is death for us all"
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"you must not take the #rationalists seriously or allow them to gain #traction on this #website. that is #death. that is death for us all"
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#BehindTheBastards covers The Zizians, #Rationalists, and the increasingly bizarre belief systems out of the tech community that are fertile grounds for culty behavior.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/behind-the-bastards/id1373812661?i=1000698710498
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#BehindTheBastards covers The Zizians, #Rationalists, and the increasingly bizarre belief systems out of the tech community that are fertile grounds for culty behavior.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/behind-the-bastards/id1373812661?i=1000698710498
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#BehindTheBastards covers The Zizians, #Rationalists, and the increasingly bizarre belief systems out of the tech community that are fertile grounds for culty behavior.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/behind-the-bastards/id1373812661?i=1000698710498
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#BehindTheBastards covers The Zizians, #Rationalists, and the increasingly bizarre belief systems out of the tech community that are fertile grounds for culty behavior.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/behind-the-bastards/id1373812661?i=1000698710498
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It always ends up the same way, "I should do what I want, and I want to do cruel, weird shit to other people without their consent"
Yawn. -
It always ends up the same way, "I should do what I want, and I want to do cruel, weird shit to other people without their consent"
Yawn. -
It always ends up the same way, "I should do what I want, and I want to do cruel, weird shit to other people without their consent"
Yawn.
