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  1. @txels @mirlo @fairplayer @marcelcosta

    I think you understand me correctly. I look at it like podcasting. That artists should be able to run their own sites using any software they want and host their music there while listeners use any app they want to seemlessly play music from these sites. A decentralized Spotify. of course we also need to get money flowing the other way. #PublicPatron

    discovery is also an issue but I don't like anything closed. internet radio and fedi recommendations.

  2. @txels @mirlo @fairplayer @marcelcosta

    I think you understand me correctly. I look at it like podcasting. That artists should be able to run their own sites using any software they want and host their music there while listeners use any app they want to seemlessly play music from these sites. A decentralized Spotify. of course we also need to get money flowing the other way. #PublicPatron

    discovery is also an issue but I don't like anything closed. internet radio and fedi recommendations.

  3. @txels @mirlo @fairplayer @marcelcosta

    I think you understand me correctly. I look at it like podcasting. That artists should be able to run their own sites using any software they want and host their music there while listeners use any app they want to seemlessly play music from these sites. A decentralized Spotify. of course we also need to get money flowing the other way. #PublicPatron

    discovery is also an issue but I don't like anything closed. internet radio and fedi recommendations.

  4. @kidlightbulbs @RobertaFidora

    right but eventually we should have a protocol for bank to bank fiat transfers, no longer having to manage multiple intermediaries. same with apps that let us search and listen to music, no matter where they host their music or how. then we merge the two, directly paying an amount we can afford directly to them for percentage of total time spent with their work over a month. etc etc.

    #PublicPatron #Chorus

  5. @kidlightbulbs @RobertaFidora

    right but eventually we should have a protocol for bank to bank fiat transfers, no longer having to manage multiple intermediaries. same with apps that let us search and listen to music, no matter where they host their music or how. then we merge the two, directly paying an amount we can afford directly to them for percentage of total time spent with their work over a month. etc etc.

    #PublicPatron #Chorus

  6. @kidlightbulbs @RobertaFidora

    right but eventually we should have a protocol for bank to bank fiat transfers, no longer having to manage multiple intermediaries. same with apps that let us search and listen to music, no matter where they host their music or how. then we merge the two, directly paying an amount we can afford directly to them for percentage of total time spent with their work over a month. etc etc.

    #PublicPatron #Chorus

  7. Been on fedi since April 2017. No Agenda Social.

    Was trying to figure out Join Diaspora in June 2011.

    Slowly realizing that fixing our information ecosystem would provide the more fair and sustainable improvement in society for most people, rather than doing politics, since maybe 2007.

    #SocialWeb #DemocracyOfReach #PublicPatron

  8. Been on fedi since April 2017. No Agenda Social.

    Was trying to figure out Join Diaspora in June 2011.

    Slowly realizing that fixing our information ecosystem would provide the more fair and sustainable improvement in society for most people, rather than doing politics, since maybe 2007.

    #SocialWeb #DemocracyOfReach #PublicPatron

  9. Been on fedi since April 2017. No Agenda Social.

    Was trying to figure out Join Diaspora in June 2011.

    Slowly realizing that fixing our information ecosystem would provide the more fair and sustainable improvement in society for most people, rather than doing politics, since maybe 2007.

    #SocialWeb #DemocracyOfReach #PublicPatron

  10. @dlikdh

    I have lots of ideas on how it should work but mostly I let @ryno find it for me and buy whatever I can on Bandcamp Fridays.

    [TuneFM Radio is a great internet radio app for Android that keeps track of what songs they played and the #subsonic API lets you play your music from any compatible source (Bandcamp for now). But eventually we do this all (including recommendations from other fedizens) in an even more decentralized way, with money flowing directly to artists. #PublicPatron]

  11. @dlikdh

    I have lots of ideas on how it should work but mostly I let @ryno find it for me and buy whatever I can on Bandcamp Fridays.

    [TuneFM Radio is a great internet radio app for Android that keeps track of what songs they played and the #subsonic API lets you play your music from any compatible source (Bandcamp for now). But eventually we do this all (including recommendations from other fedizens) in an even more decentralized way, with money flowing directly to artists. #PublicPatron]

  12. @dlikdh

    I have lots of ideas on how it should work but mostly I let @ryno find it for me and buy whatever I can on Bandcamp Fridays.

    [TuneFM Radio is a great internet radio app for Android that keeps track of what songs they played and the #subsonic API lets you play your music from any compatible source (Bandcamp for now). But eventually we do this all (including recommendations from other fedizens) in an even more decentralized way, with money flowing directly to artists. #PublicPatron]

  13. I'm using the FOSS app #substreamer for Android to play all the tracks I've bought from #Bandcamp using the Open #subsonic API. It's awesome.

    We should be able to do this with music from any band's website, using any app we choose. Decentralized Spotify. Musicians no longer needing to manage multiple accounts, just their own website.

    But for this to work, they've gotta get paid, directly and automatically. Amounts that work for fans and artists.

    #PublicPatron

  14. I'm using the FOSS app #substreamer for Android to play all the tracks I've bought from #Bandcamp using the Open #subsonic API. It's awesome.

    We should be able to do this with music from any band's website, using any app we choose. Decentralized Spotify. Musicians no longer needing to manage multiple accounts, just their own website.

    But for this to work, they've gotta get paid, directly and automatically. Amounts that work for fans and artists.

    #PublicPatron

  15. I'm using the FOSS app #substreamer for Android to play all the tracks I've bought from #Bandcamp using the Open #subsonic API. It's awesome.

    We should be able to do this with music from any band's website, using any app we choose. Decentralized Spotify. Musicians no longer needing to manage multiple accounts, just their own website.

    But for this to work, they've gotta get paid, directly and automatically. Amounts that work for fans and artists.

    #PublicPatron

  16. The bad guys are winning because the decentralized alternatives are not working together very well. The server people with the app developers. We can't even agree on an attention protocol thanks to #bluesky. Ultimately we're all being held back because we don't have a fiat protocol to enable automatic and direct payments of what we can afford to creators for time spent with their work.

    AFAICT few even think of their projects as part of an ecosystem.

    #APnative #PublicPatron #DemocracyOfReach

  17. The bad guys are winning because the decentralized alternatives are not working together very well. The server people with the app developers. We can't even agree on an attention protocol thanks to #bluesky. Ultimately we're all being held back because we don't have a fiat protocol to enable automatic and direct payments of what we can afford to creators for time spent with their work.

    AFAICT few even think of their projects as part of an ecosystem.

    #APnative #PublicPatron #DemocracyOfReach

  18. The bad guys are winning because the decentralized alternatives are not working together very well. The server people with the app developers. We can't even agree on an attention protocol thanks to #bluesky. Ultimately we're all being held back because we don't have a fiat protocol to enable automatic and direct payments of what we can afford to creators for time spent with their work.

    AFAICT few even think of their projects as part of an ecosystem.

    #APnative #PublicPatron #DemocracyOfReach

  19. I think the future is decentralized Spotify via #canimus and #PublicPatron but right now, we should probably try to move everybody (at least those on #Bandcamp) to #mirlo. And help them be the most awesome, including providing musicians fedi accounts.

  20. I think the future is decentralized Spotify via #canimus and #PublicPatron but right now, we should probably try to move everybody (at least those on #Bandcamp) to #mirlo. And help them be the most awesome, including providing musicians fedi accounts.

  21. I think the future is decentralized Spotify via #canimus and #PublicPatron but right now, we should probably try to move everybody (at least those on #Bandcamp) to #mirlo. And help them be the most awesome, including providing musicians fedi accounts.

  22. Not owning digital media wouldn't be a problem if creators could be fully independent and make the files directly available from their own website, and we only paid a reasonable amount for our time spent playing them. Then they'd have a strong incentive to keep them accessible.

    #PublicPatron

  23. Not owning digital media wouldn't be a problem if creators could be fully independent and make the files directly available from their own website, and we only paid a reasonable amount for our time spent playing them. Then they'd have a strong incentive to keep them accessible.

    #PublicPatron

  24. Not owning digital media wouldn't be a problem if creators could be fully independent and make the files directly available from their own website, and we only paid a reasonable amount for our time spent playing them. Then they'd have a strong incentive to keep them accessible.

    #PublicPatron

  25. Now getting a block on a publication that I used to be able to read using @wallabag. I expected it sooner. More are coming I'm sure.

    Of course journalism needs the money but paywalls are counterproductive. Most will just read something else. We all get dumber. Subscriptions frustrate when most of what we want to read is shared from lots of different sites. And paying each time is tedious and feels expensive.

    We need to allocate per time spent, based on what we can each afford.

    #PublicPatron

  26. Now getting a block on a publication that I used to be able to read using @wallabag. I expected it sooner. More are coming I'm sure.

    Of course journalism needs the money but paywalls are counterproductive. Most will just read something else. We all get dumber. Subscriptions frustrate when most of what we want to read is shared from lots of different sites. And paying each time is tedious and feels expensive.

    We need to allocate per time spent, based on what we can each afford.

    #PublicPatron

  27. Now getting a block on a publication that I used to be able to read using @wallabag. I expected it sooner. More are coming I'm sure.

    Of course journalism needs the money but paywalls are counterproductive. Most will just read something else. We all get dumber. Subscriptions frustrate when most of what we want to read is shared from lots of different sites. And paying each time is tedious and feels expensive.

    We need to allocate per time spent, based on what we can each afford.

    #PublicPatron

  28. @rude1.blacksky.team @gabek

    he's great. we need apps (esp OTT) that handle both #owncast and #peertube but look like YT. YT is the obvious future of all video but we can't let one company control it.

    we also need a payment system where the money flows automatically and directly based on percentage of time spent, from an amount we choose monthly. our bank to their bank. if we can convince enough people to do that with enough money, we could displace the corporations. #PublicPatron

  29. @rude1.blacksky.team @gabek

    he's great. we need apps (esp OTT) that handle both #owncast and #peertube but look like YT. YT is the obvious future of all video but we can't let one company control it.

    we also need a payment system where the money flows automatically and directly based on percentage of time spent, from an amount we choose monthly. our bank to their bank. if we can convince enough people to do that with enough money, we could displace the corporations. #PublicPatron

  30. @rude1.blacksky.team @gabek

    he's great. we need apps (esp OTT) that handle both #owncast and #peertube but look like YT. YT is the obvious future of all video but we can't let one company control it.

    we also need a payment system where the money flows automatically and directly based on percentage of time spent, from an amount we choose monthly. our bank to their bank. if we can convince enough people to do that with enough money, we could displace the corporations. #PublicPatron

  31. @sinabhfuil

    we need this worldwide. being able to fully integrate direct and automatic payments for media we consume into apps (without the problems of crypto) would free creators from the limits of corporate gatekeepers. the way the money currently works is what keeps people on YT vs #peertube and #owncast, for example. or consider a decentralized alternative to #Spotify. it would open up so many opportunities.

    #interledger #GNUtaler #AssetFlow #PublicPatron

  32. @sinabhfuil

    we need this worldwide. being able to fully integrate direct and automatic payments for media we consume into apps (without the problems of crypto) would free creators from the limits of corporate gatekeepers. the way the money currently works is what keeps people on YT vs #peertube and #owncast, for example. or consider a decentralized alternative to #Spotify. it would open up so many opportunities.

    #interledger #GNUtaler #AssetFlow #PublicPatron

  33. @sinabhfuil

    we need this worldwide. being able to fully integrate direct and automatic payments for media we consume into apps (without the problems of crypto) would free creators from the limits of corporate gatekeepers. the way the money currently works is what keeps people on YT vs #peertube and #owncast, for example. or consider a decentralized alternative to #Spotify. it would open up so many opportunities.

    #interledger #GNUtaler #AssetFlow #PublicPatron

  34. I'm sad to see it ending (mostly thanks to Trump but also costs) while I also wish it could have been live more regularly and less corporate. I dream that #owncast #peertube and #PublicPatron could bring it back in that format.

    #StephenColbert #LateShow

  35. I'm sad to see it ending (mostly thanks to Trump but also costs) while I also wish it could have been live more regularly and less corporate. I dream that #owncast #peertube and #PublicPatron could bring it back in that format.

    #StephenColbert #LateShow

  36. I'm sad to see it ending (mostly thanks to Trump but also costs) while I also wish it could have been live more regularly and less corporate. I dream that #owncast #peertube and #PublicPatron could bring it back in that format.

    #StephenColbert #LateShow

  37. @davew @paulknightly

    and that third party should be your own bank. we should decide how much we can give per month and our apps should tell our bank how much time we spent with each item and then divvy up and distribute the money at the end of the month. with all media decentralized ala podcasting and attention democratically determined via fedi boosts.

    #PublicPatron #DemocracyOfReach

  38. @davew @paulknightly

    and that third party should be your own bank. we should decide how much we can give per month and our apps should tell our bank how much time we spent with each item and then divvy up and distribute the money at the end of the month. with all media decentralized ala podcasting and attention democratically determined via fedi boosts.

    #PublicPatron #DemocracyOfReach

  39. @davew @paulknightly

    and that third party should be your own bank. we should decide how much we can give per month and our apps should tell our bank how much time we spent with each item and then divvy up and distribute the money at the end of the month. with all media decentralized ala podcasting and attention democratically determined via fedi boosts.

    #PublicPatron #DemocracyOfReach

  40. @bitboxer @mirlo

    yes but I don't think coops in the middle solve this either. they become more useful as they get bigger but that gives them more power and they can always eventually abuse that power. or maybe even just do something that only a quarter of the musicians hate. it can't sustain.

    instead imo we need less work on competing systems, more work on protocols/APIs, apps and servers. and then a fuckton of advocacy for decentralized fiat.

    #AssetFlow #interledger #GNUTaler #PublicPatron

  41. @bitboxer @mirlo

    yes but I don't think coops in the middle solve this either. they become more useful as they get bigger but that gives them more power and they can always eventually abuse that power. or maybe even just do something that only a quarter of the musicians hate. it can't sustain.

    instead imo we need less work on competing systems, more work on protocols/APIs, apps and servers. and then a fuckton of advocacy for decentralized fiat.

    #AssetFlow #interledger #GNUTaler #PublicPatron

  42. @bitboxer @mirlo

    yes but I don't think coops in the middle solve this either. they become more useful as they get bigger but that gives them more power and they can always eventually abuse that power. or maybe even just do something that only a quarter of the musicians hate. it can't sustain.

    instead imo we need less work on competing systems, more work on protocols/APIs, apps and servers. and then a fuckton of advocacy for decentralized fiat.

    #AssetFlow #interledger #GNUTaler #PublicPatron

  43. Much of my site from 1998 is up there too but I've been annoying people with this #PublicPatron idea since 2007.

    web.archive.org/web/2008090710

  44. Much of my site from 1998 is up there too but I've been annoying people with this #PublicPatron idea since 2007.

    web.archive.org/web/2008090710

  45. Much of my site from 1998 is up there too but I've been annoying people with this #PublicPatron idea since 2007.

    web.archive.org/web/2008090710

  46. @tchambers @dsearls

    and let's go further. decentralized media is one third of what I call #DemocracyOfReach, the other two being the social news feed (my perhaps better term for microblogging) and automatic/direct financial support.

    anybody should be able to create the content however they want and anybody should be able to consume it however they want, no middleman. then it goes viral based on human boosts. then we pay creators what we can for time spent with it.

    #APnative #PublicPatron

  47. @tchambers @dsearls

    and let's go further. decentralized media is one third of what I call #DemocracyOfReach, the other two being the social news feed (my perhaps better term for microblogging) and automatic/direct financial support.

    anybody should be able to create the content however they want and anybody should be able to consume it however they want, no middleman. then it goes viral based on human boosts. then we pay creators what we can for time spent with it.

    #APnative #PublicPatron

  48. @tchambers @dsearls

    and let's go further. decentralized media is one third of what I call #DemocracyOfReach, the other two being the social news feed (my perhaps better term for microblogging) and automatic/direct financial support.

    anybody should be able to create the content however they want and anybody should be able to consume it however they want, no middleman. then it goes viral based on human boosts. then we pay creators what we can for time spent with it.

    #APnative #PublicPatron

  49. I understand how people are coming to think of a podcast as just a talk show. But what's special is the distribution. That no corporation has to be dealt with to make them available to the world. That both creators and consumers have total choice in apps and services. This is already possible with video and getting better with text and music. And with fedi, we don't need them for attention. Next, auto/direct support.

    cc @acedtect

    #podcasting #peertube #owncast #DemocracyOfReach #PublicPatron

  50. I understand how people are coming to think of a podcast as just a talk show. But what's special is the distribution. That no corporation has to be dealt with to make them available to the world. That both creators and consumers have total choice in apps and services. This is already possible with video and getting better with text and music. And with fedi, we don't need them for attention. Next, auto/direct support.

    cc @acedtect

    #podcasting #peertube #owncast #DemocracyOfReach #PublicPatron

  51. I understand how people are coming to think of a podcast as just a talk show. But what's special is the distribution. That no corporation has to be dealt with to make them available to the world. That both creators and consumers have total choice in apps and services. This is already possible with video and getting better with text and music. And with fedi, we don't need them for attention. Next, auto/direct support.

    cc @acedtect

    #podcasting #peertube #owncast #DemocracyOfReach #PublicPatron

  52. @hankgreen

    thanks for saying this. the next step is leading a movement away from the services using these algos. I know YouTube algos are helpful to you but they are ultimately bad for society. help us build and grow alternatives. people are already doing the work, they just need more attention, money and users. please.

    #SocialWeb #peertube #owncast #DemocracyOfReach #PublicPatron

  53. @hankgreen

    thanks for saying this. the next step is leading a movement away from the services using these algos. I know YouTube algos are helpful to you but they are ultimately bad for society. help us build and grow alternatives. people are already doing the work, they just need more attention, money and users. please.

    #SocialWeb #peertube #owncast #DemocracyOfReach #PublicPatron

  54. @hankgreen

    thanks for saying this. the next step is leading a movement away from the services using these algos. I know YouTube algos are helpful to you but they are ultimately bad for society. help us build and grow alternatives. people are already doing the work, they just need more attention, money and users. please.

    #SocialWeb #peertube #owncast #DemocracyOfReach #PublicPatron

  55. @js

    we should be able to transfer money directly from a fan's bank to a creator's bank as easily as sending an email or tagging somebody on fedi. no middleman, no crypto. we should be able to decide what we can give per month, track what we consume and automatically divide up and distribute those funds.

    #interledger #GNUtaler #PublicPatron

  56. @js

    we should be able to transfer money directly from a fan's bank to a creator's bank as easily as sending an email or tagging somebody on fedi. no middleman, no crypto. we should be able to decide what we can give per month, track what we consume and automatically divide up and distribute those funds.

    #interledger #GNUtaler #PublicPatron

  57. @js

    we should be able to transfer money directly from a fan's bank to a creator's bank as easily as sending an email or tagging somebody on fedi. no middleman, no crypto. we should be able to decide what we can give per month, track what we consume and automatically divide up and distribute those funds.

    #interledger #GNUtaler #PublicPatron

  58. @darkwolf

    howdy! you might be interested in #peertube and #owncast. I dream that these are the future of video. full independence. we've just gotta figure out how to get creators paid. perhaps #PublicPatron.

  59. @darkwolf

    howdy! you might be interested in #peertube and #owncast. I dream that these are the future of video. full independence. we've just gotta figure out how to get creators paid. perhaps #PublicPatron.

  60. @darkwolf

    howdy! you might be interested in #peertube and #owncast. I dream that these are the future of video. full independence. we've just gotta figure out how to get creators paid. perhaps #PublicPatron.