#presentism — Public Fediverse posts
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One of the greatest errors we make regularly is not leaving out all of our own indexing & knowledge when we go back in time intellectually in order to study history, & understand views, models, or errors made by ancestors-- from their POV & index. #historians_fallacy #presentism
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David Ingram ja Jonathan Tallant uusivat äsken SEP-entryään presentismistä, https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/presentism/. Sitä lukiessa huomaan välillä hymyileväni. Selitys löytynee kirjoituksen erityisen analyyttisesta ja lukijaa palvelevasta tyylistä, joka näyttää harvinaistuvan tuossakin ensyklopediassa.
Toinen kiintoisa päivitys, Christopher Molen Attention https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/attention/, edustaa pikemmin filosofian naturalisoinnin mukanaan tuomaa, sinänsä ansiokasta empiiris-tieteellisen ajantasan tavoittelua. Se ei samalla tavoin kutittele aikanaan logiikan kautta matematiikka-vammaansa kätellyttä eläkeläistä. Hyytyi myös kenties kuranteimman teeman, huomiotalouden kynnykselle, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_economy
Laadukkaiden filosofis-tieteellisten tekstien verkkainen lukeminen on minulle vähän kuin vuolemista (whittling, carving), ja korvannee kohdallani ulkomaanmatkat, viihteen ja fantasiakirjallisuuden.
#sep #philosophy #filosofia #presentism #aika #time #ontology #metafysiikka #analytic #attention #huomio #actualism #possibilism #logic #psykologia #psychology #space #truth #cognition #science #consciousness #travel #lukeminen #kirjallisuus #vuoleminen
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David Ingram ja Jonathan Tallant uusivat äsken SEP-entryään presentismistä, https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/presentism/. Sitä lukiessa huomaan välillä hymyileväni. Selitys löytynee kirjoituksen erityisen analyyttisesta ja lukijaa palvelevasta tyylistä, joka näyttää harvinaistuvan tuossakin ensyklopediassa.
Toinen kiintoisa päivitys, Christopher Molen Attention https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/attention/, edustaa pikemmin filosofian naturalisoinnin mukanaan tuomaa, sinänsä ansiokasta empiiris-tieteellisen ajantasan tavoittelua. Se ei samalla tavoin kutittele aikanaan logiikan kautta matematiikka-vammaansa kätellyttä eläkeläistä. Hyytyi myös kenties kuranteimman teeman, huomiotalouden kynnykselle, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_economy
Laadukkaiden filosofis-tieteellisten tekstien verkkainen lukeminen on minulle vähän kuin vuolemista (whittling, carving), ja korvannee kohdallani ulkomaanmatkat, viihteen ja fantasiakirjallisuuden.
#sep #philosophy #filosofia #presentism #aika #time #ontology #metafysiikka #analytic #attention #huomio #actualism #possibilism #logic #psykologia #psychology #space #truth #cognition #science #consciousness #travel #lukeminen #kirjallisuus #vuoleminen
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David Ingram ja Jonathan Tallant uusivat äsken SEP-entryään presentismistä, https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/presentism/. Sitä lukiessa huomaan välillä hymyileväni. Selitys löytynee kirjoituksen erityisen analyyttisesta ja lukijaa palvelevasta tyylistä, joka näyttää harvinaistuvan tuossakin ensyklopediassa.
Toinen kiintoisa päivitys, Christopher Molen Attention https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/attention/, edustaa pikemmin filosofian naturalisoinnin mukanaan tuomaa, sinänsä ansiokasta empiiris-tieteellisen ajantasan tavoittelua. Se ei samalla tavoin kutittele aikanaan logiikan kautta matematiikka-vammaansa kätellyttä eläkeläistä. Hyytyi myös kenties kuranteimman teeman, huomiotalouden kynnykselle, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_economy
Laadukkaiden filosofis-tieteellisten tekstien verkkainen lukeminen on minulle vähän kuin vuolemista (whittling, carving), ja korvannee kohdallani ulkomaanmatkat, viihteen ja fantasiakirjallisuuden.
#sep #philosophy #filosofia #presentism #aika #time #ontology #metafysiikka #analytic #attention #huomio #actualism #possibilism #logic #psykologia #psychology #space #truth #cognition #science #consciousness #travel #lukeminen #kirjallisuus #vuoleminen
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David Ingram ja Jonathan Tallant uusivat äsken SEP-entryään presentismistä, https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/presentism/. Sitä lukiessa huomaan välillä hymyileväni. Selitys löytynee kirjoituksen erityisen analyyttisesta ja lukijaa palvelevasta tyylistä, joka näyttää harvinaistuvan tuossakin ensyklopediassa.
Toinen kiintoisa päivitys, Christopher Molen Attention https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/attention/, edustaa pikemmin filosofian naturalisoinnin mukanaan tuomaa, sinänsä ansiokasta empiiris-tieteellisen ajantasan tavoittelua. Se ei samalla tavoin kutittele aikanaan logiikan kautta matematiikka-vammaansa kätellyttä eläkeläistä. Hyytyi myös kenties kuranteimman teeman, huomiotalouden kynnykselle, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_economy
Laadukkaiden filosofis-tieteellisten tekstien verkkainen lukeminen on minulle vähän kuin vuolemista (whittling, carving), ja korvannee kohdallani ulkomaanmatkat, viihteen ja fantasiakirjallisuuden.
#sep #philosophy #filosofia #presentism #aika #time #ontology #metafysiikka #analytic #attention #huomio #actualism #possibilism #logic #psykologia #psychology #space #truth #cognition #science #consciousness #travel #lukeminen #kirjallisuus #vuoleminen
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David Ingram ja Jonathan Tallant uusivat äsken SEP-entryään presentismistä, https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/presentism/. Sitä lukiessa huomaan välillä hymyileväni. Selitys löytynee kirjoituksen erityisen analyyttisesta ja lukijaa palvelevasta tyylistä, joka näyttää harvinaistuvan tuossakin ensyklopediassa.
Toinen kiintoisa päivitys, Christopher Molen Attention https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/attention/, edustaa pikemmin filosofian naturalisoinnin mukanaan tuomaa, sinänsä ansiokasta empiiris-tieteellisen ajantasan tavoittelua. Se ei samalla tavoin kutittele aikanaan logiikan kautta matematiikka-vammaansa kätellyttä eläkeläistä. Hyytyi myös kenties kuranteimman teeman, huomiotalouden kynnykselle, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_economy
Laadukkaiden filosofis-tieteellisten tekstien verkkainen lukeminen on minulle vähän kuin vuolemista (whittling, carving), ja korvannee kohdallani ulkomaanmatkat, viihteen ja fantasiakirjallisuuden.
#sep #philosophy #filosofia #presentism #aika #time #ontology #metafysiikka #analytic #attention #huomio #actualism #possibilism #logic #psykologia #psychology #space #truth #cognition #science #consciousness #travel #lukeminen #kirjallisuus #vuoleminen
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The Enlightenment promised reason, progress, and justice — but left us with structures that privilege the loudest present over the silenced future.
These spectres will linger through Día de Muertos and Hallowe’en. After that, who knows whether they’ll still answer when called.
#Essay https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.17263384
#Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Gr8esgQnHp40PbgoKtnoz?si=xctGZZbHT_uWAvBPiOKrYQ
#Philosophy #PoliticalTheory #CriticalTheory #AntiEnlightenment #Democracy #Presentism #FutureGenerations #ClimateJustice #Blog
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25 giugno, matteo tonoli: “forward thinking and new models of sustainability” (seminar held in Italian, thx to the ‘neocybernetic crew’)
Forward Thinking and New Models of Sustainability
Matteo Tonoli
25 giugno 6pm
I will start with a symbolic episode, “raining stones,” from Douglas Rushkoff’s book Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus.
Throwing rocks and protesting require a second-order view of the future (Wiener and Rosenblueth), on a generational scale. This vision is difficult to acquire because crushed by presentism (a consequence of the information and digital noise explosion of the 2010s), it flattens our temporal perception, limiting it to instants of eternal present under the banner of the “disposable.” This phenomenon impoverishes the vision of a possible future and, in some ways, makes us unable to glimpse its real implications.
I will argue that sustainable leadership must overcome presentism and adopt a generative, auto-poietic relationship with time in its dimensions of memory, present and future. Specifically, the tool that allows one to “prune the crown of the tree of possible futures” is accountability: knowing how to model the future to understand the consequences of actions on a generational time scale. As a result of these predictions we then act on the present, in a retroactive process.
A central aspect of this reflection is the retrieval of la parole (Grothendieck), a fundamental tool for imagining the future accurately and consciously, and then communicating it effectively to the actors involved in the sustainability chain. Linguistic sustainability then becomes a key element: a clear, unambiguous language that leaves no room for bad faith (Sartre), or that tendency to deceive ourselves (as happens when we reduce global warming to climate change, confusing cause and effect). In this sense, pertinence, which for Augé is the ability to “understand an epoch and speak to an epoch,” is essential for responsible communication.
I will conclude by emphasizing how a leadership that can retrieve the deep sense of the word and communicate it, succeeds in speaking with a political language. A language that, nourished by a highly informative past breaking into a dense and lived present, works every day to expand the horizon of possibilities (von Foerster).
An engineer first and sociologist later, Matteo Tonoli translates his many interests and passions into reflections on several issues that include complexity, innovation, the relationship between science and society, design and music. He is an education consultant and his latest work has been published within the collective volume Communication and Scientific Uncertainty in the Knowledge Society (Cerroni and Carradore, Franco Angeli, 2021).
https://neocyberneticcrew.org/
#CommunicationAndScientificUncertaintyInTheKnowledgeSociety #complexity #disposable #eternalPresent #ForwardThinkingAndNewModelsOfSustainabilit #Grothendieck #innovation #laParole #linguisticSustainability #MatteoTonoli #NeocyberneticCrew #ouglasRushkoff #presentism #sustainability #temporalPerception #theDisposable #ThrowingRocksAtTheGoogleBus #vonFoerster #WienerAndRosenblueth
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25 giugno, matteo tonoli: “forward thinking and new models of sustainability” (seminar held in Italian, thx to the ‘neocybernetic crew’)
Forward Thinking and New Models of Sustainability
Matteo Tonoli
25 giugno 6pm
I will start with a symbolic episode, “raining stones,” from Douglas Rushkoff’s book Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus.
Throwing rocks and protesting require a second-order view of the future (Wiener and Rosenblueth), on a generational scale. This vision is difficult to acquire because crushed by presentism (a consequence of the information and digital noise explosion of the 2010s), it flattens our temporal perception, limiting it to instants of eternal present under the banner of the “disposable.” This phenomenon impoverishes the vision of a possible future and, in some ways, makes us unable to glimpse its real implications.
I will argue that sustainable leadership must overcome presentism and adopt a generative, auto-poietic relationship with time in its dimensions of memory, present and future. Specifically, the tool that allows one to “prune the crown of the tree of possible futures” is accountability: knowing how to model the future to understand the consequences of actions on a generational time scale. As a result of these predictions we then act on the present, in a retroactive process.
A central aspect of this reflection is the retrieval of la parole (Grothendieck), a fundamental tool for imagining the future accurately and consciously, and then communicating it effectively to the actors involved in the sustainability chain. Linguistic sustainability then becomes a key element: a clear, unambiguous language that leaves no room for bad faith (Sartre), or that tendency to deceive ourselves (as happens when we reduce global warming to climate change, confusing cause and effect). In this sense, pertinence, which for Augé is the ability to “understand an epoch and speak to an epoch,” is essential for responsible communication.
I will conclude by emphasizing how a leadership that can retrieve the deep sense of the word and communicate it, succeeds in speaking with a political language. A language that, nourished by a highly informative past breaking into a dense and lived present, works every day to expand the horizon of possibilities (von Foerster).
An engineer first and sociologist later, Matteo Tonoli translates his many interests and passions into reflections on several issues that include complexity, innovation, the relationship between science and society, design and music. He is an education consultant and his latest work has been published within the collective volume Communication and Scientific Uncertainty in the Knowledge Society (Cerroni and Carradore, Franco Angeli, 2021).
https://neocyberneticcrew.org/
#CommunicationAndScientificUncertaintyInTheKnowledgeSociety #complexity #disposable #eternalPresent #ForwardThinkingAndNewModelsOfSustainabilit #Grothendieck #innovation #laParole #linguisticSustainability #MatteoTonoli #NeocyberneticCrew #ouglasRushkoff #presentism #sustainability #temporalPerception #theDisposable #ThrowingRocksAtTheGoogleBus #vonFoerster #WienerAndRosenblueth
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25 giugno, matteo tonoli: “forward thinking and new models of sustainability” (seminar held in Italian, thx to the ‘neocybernetic crew’)
Forward Thinking and New Models of Sustainability
Matteo Tonoli
25 giugno 6pm
I will start with a symbolic episode, “raining stones,” from Douglas Rushkoff’s book Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus.
Throwing rocks and protesting require a second-order view of the future (Wiener and Rosenblueth), on a generational scale. This vision is difficult to acquire because crushed by presentism (a consequence of the information and digital noise explosion of the 2010s), it flattens our temporal perception, limiting it to instants of eternal present under the banner of the “disposable.” This phenomenon impoverishes the vision of a possible future and, in some ways, makes us unable to glimpse its real implications.
I will argue that sustainable leadership must overcome presentism and adopt a generative, auto-poietic relationship with time in its dimensions of memory, present and future. Specifically, the tool that allows one to “prune the crown of the tree of possible futures” is accountability: knowing how to model the future to understand the consequences of actions on a generational time scale. As a result of these predictions we then act on the present, in a retroactive process.
A central aspect of this reflection is the retrieval of la parole (Grothendieck), a fundamental tool for imagining the future accurately and consciously, and then communicating it effectively to the actors involved in the sustainability chain. Linguistic sustainability then becomes a key element: a clear, unambiguous language that leaves no room for bad faith (Sartre), or that tendency to deceive ourselves (as happens when we reduce global warming to climate change, confusing cause and effect). In this sense, pertinence, which for Augé is the ability to “understand an epoch and speak to an epoch,” is essential for responsible communication.
I will conclude by emphasizing how a leadership that can retrieve the deep sense of the word and communicate it, succeeds in speaking with a political language. A language that, nourished by a highly informative past breaking into a dense and lived present, works every day to expand the horizon of possibilities (von Foerster).
An engineer first and sociologist later, Matteo Tonoli translates his many interests and passions into reflections on several issues that include complexity, innovation, the relationship between science and society, design and music. He is an education consultant and his latest work has been published within the collective volume Communication and Scientific Uncertainty in the Knowledge Society (Cerroni and Carradore, Franco Angeli, 2021).
https://neocyberneticcrew.org/
#CommunicationAndScientificUncertaintyInTheKnowledgeSociety #complexity #disposable #eternalPresent #ForwardThinkingAndNewModelsOfSustainabilit #Grothendieck #innovation #laParole #linguisticSustainability #MatteoTonoli #NeocyberneticCrew #ouglasRushkoff #presentism #sustainability #temporalPerception #theDisposable #ThrowingRocksAtTheGoogleBus #vonFoerster #WienerAndRosenblueth
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25 giugno, matteo tonoli: “forward thinking and new models of sustainability” (seminar held in Italian, thx to the ‘neocybernetic crew’)
Forward Thinking and New Models of Sustainability
Matteo Tonoli
25 giugno 6pm
I will start with a symbolic episode, “raining stones,” from Douglas Rushkoff’s book Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus.
Throwing rocks and protesting require a second-order view of the future (Wiener and Rosenblueth), on a generational scale. This vision is difficult to acquire because crushed by presentism (a consequence of the information and digital noise explosion of the 2010s), it flattens our temporal perception, limiting it to instants of eternal present under the banner of the “disposable.” This phenomenon impoverishes the vision of a possible future and, in some ways, makes us unable to glimpse its real implications.
I will argue that sustainable leadership must overcome presentism and adopt a generative, auto-poietic relationship with time in its dimensions of memory, present and future. Specifically, the tool that allows one to “prune the crown of the tree of possible futures” is accountability: knowing how to model the future to understand the consequences of actions on a generational time scale. As a result of these predictions we then act on the present, in a retroactive process.
A central aspect of this reflection is the retrieval of la parole (Grothendieck), a fundamental tool for imagining the future accurately and consciously, and then communicating it effectively to the actors involved in the sustainability chain. Linguistic sustainability then becomes a key element: a clear, unambiguous language that leaves no room for bad faith (Sartre), or that tendency to deceive ourselves (as happens when we reduce global warming to climate change, confusing cause and effect). In this sense, pertinence, which for Augé is the ability to “understand an epoch and speak to an epoch,” is essential for responsible communication.
I will conclude by emphasizing how a leadership that can retrieve the deep sense of the word and communicate it, succeeds in speaking with a political language. A language that, nourished by a highly informative past breaking into a dense and lived present, works every day to expand the horizon of possibilities (von Foerster).
An engineer first and sociologist later, Matteo Tonoli translates his many interests and passions into reflections on several issues that include complexity, innovation, the relationship between science and society, design and music. He is an education consultant and his latest work has been published within the collective volume Communication and Scientific Uncertainty in the Knowledge Society (Cerroni and Carradore, Franco Angeli, 2021).
https://neocyberneticcrew.org/
#CommunicationAndScientificUncertaintyInTheKnowledgeSociety #complexity #disposable #eternalPresent #ForwardThinkingAndNewModelsOfSustainabilit #Grothendieck #innovation #laParole #linguisticSustainability #MatteoTonoli #NeocyberneticCrew #ouglasRushkoff #presentism #sustainability #temporalPerception #theDisposable #ThrowingRocksAtTheGoogleBus #vonFoerster #WienerAndRosenblueth
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@urlyman this is great! Thank you for sharing it here on #ClimateDiary
And yes, agree with your point - #presentism, short term thinking is such an integral problem of modernity/capitalism
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Shallow #presentism is devouring our #politics and as a nation so mired in the fight in front of us that we are struggling to envision a future for ourselves and generations to come.
But as @gothamgirlblue writes, we must ask ourselves: What's next?
https://www.damemagazine.com/2023/08/08/has-america-given-up-on-its-future/
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I just finished #AliSmith ‘s #CompanionPiece and feel like she’s unlocked something inside me too (like in Martina Inglis/Pelf). What I love above all is how she breaks open the shallow flat #presentism of modernity and shows how the past and stories are alive in all of us. This is what i’ve been trying to get at, too (as in our @RadicalAnthro
local environmental knowledge workshop) - but she does it so so brilliantly #Bookstodon -
Does a caravan pulled by 8 horses value people more than the folks on the side of the ride trying to make the pilgrimage from Europe to Jerusalem in the 8th century?
#presentism #humanity #pilgrimage #horsepower #HolyLand #Jerusalem #histodon
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Tomorrow on my live webcast “History Matters:”
The Problem of Presentism
This week’s New Yorker had an article about historians & their work, largely focused on the place of the present in studying the past.
Join us to discuss this BIG question.
Fri. 10AM ET
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@SFuntowicz @danmcquillan thank you so much for this - just downloaded it and read abstract, but i think it really chimes with a few things i’m thinking about just now - what kind of knowledge is given validity, and how that shapes things, and also #Presentism - badly articulated here ⬇️ Really looking forward to reading it
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@pvonhellermannn Is #Presentism really the heart of the issue, or is it a question of *which* present we choose to situate ourselves in? We can remain ensconced within the numbing illusion of extractive capitalist surplus, or we can awaken to the immediate catastrophe of burning forests, bleaching corals, and species die-offs.
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Thinking just now about how #Presentism - mainly living in and thinking about the present - is such a key feature of #Modernity, and how this alone has played such a key role in both creating the #ClimateCrisis and in our collective inability to address it. It’s so deeply engrained in our politics (electoral cycle), economics and senses of selves. We need to rediscover deeper connections to both past and future
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@WelshPhotographer @MyWildlifeAllotment that all sounds wonderful- really looking forward to seeing your toots here. I know so little about Wales, but really interested in how there is both a deeper connection to the past and a much more forward thinking, future oriented politics there - Commissioner for the Future and all. I feel the two are linked - in fact, it’s making me think just now about #Presentism: so much a feature of modernity, so destructive
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the problem is that we have no history of using algorithms to pretend to serve as therapists, so the techbro in charge had no way of knowing what would happen when he tried it with #ChatGPT https://gizmodo.com/mental-health-therapy-app-ai-koko-chatgpt-rob-morris-1849965534 #AI #ELIZA #presentism
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Wait, what? Episode 3 of season 3 of #ViennaBlood paints a—let me put it mildly—somewhat fringe picture of the Austrian Revolution of March 1848, that led to the toppling of the Metternich regime. The episode makes it look like it was a German nationalistic affair only. Which it was not, not by far. Well, it obviously fits the narrative of the episode. Coincidentally, the English Wikipedia article has the same spin, while the German one is much more nuanced. Ah well, #presentism :blobcatshrug:
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“The future depends on educators, in coalition with other movements to create an equitable society, to demand and make change here in the present.”
https://www.humanrestorationproject.org/writing/fighting-back-against-the-future
#futurism #education #educators #equity #change #presentism #criticalthinking #resistance
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New philosophy video, this time on the recent paper "An Empirical Argument for Presentism" by David Builes and Michele Odisseas Impagnatiello.
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#SeanCarroll - How We Perceive #Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uX2pexJqk&ab_channel=Wondrium
#Science #Philosophy #PhilosophyOfScience #PhilosophyOfPhysics #NatureOfTime #TheNatureOfTime #Perception #Epistomology #Metaphysics #Biology #BiologicalTime #ScalingLaw #ScalingLaws #Neurology #Neuroscience #TemporalPerception #Memory #Presentism #PresentMoment
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#SeanCarroll - How We Perceive #Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uX2pexJqk&ab_channel=Wondrium
#Science #Philosophy #PhilosophyOfScience #PhilosophyOfPhysics #NatureOfTime #TheNatureOfTime #Perception #Epistomology #Metaphysics #Biology #BiologicalTime #ScalingLaw #ScalingLaws #Neurology #Neuroscience #TemporalPerception #Memory #Presentism #PresentMoment
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#SeanCarroll - How We Perceive #Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uX2pexJqk&ab_channel=Wondrium
#Science #Philosophy #PhilosophyOfScience #PhilosophyOfPhysics #NatureOfTime #TheNatureOfTime #Perception #Epistomology #Metaphysics #Biology #BiologicalTime #ScalingLaw #ScalingLaws #Neurology #Neuroscience #TemporalPerception #Memory #Presentism #PresentMoment
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What Is #Time ? - #Professor #SeanCarroll Explains #Presentism and #Eternalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAScJvxCy2Y&ab_channel=Wondrium
#Philosophy #PhilosophyOfScience #PhilosophyOfPhysics #Science #Physics #Cosmology #SpaceTime #Entropy #Memory #BlockUniverse #TheBlockUniverse #GeneralRelativity #Relativity #QM #QuantumMechanics #QuantumPhysics
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#RaymondTallis - Events and the Nature of #Time
Are events measured by time? Or is time created by sequences of #events? Which is more #fundamental, events or time? Worse, we may get different answers from #QuantumMechanics and #GeneralRelativity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IihQIRYwdEU&ab_channel=CloserToTruth
#Science #Physics #Philosophy #NatureOfTime #BlockUniverse #Presentism #Metaphysics
