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Koleje Małopolskie (Lesser Poland Railways) are expanding their area of responsibility for the first time in years - the voivodeship is going to have them take over Polregio's cross-voivodeship routes from Kraków to Katowice and Czechowice-Dziedzice. All this within the scope of the existing contract.
Another vote of non-confidence in the embattled all-Polish regio operator: https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/koleje-malopolskie-pojada-do-katowic-i-czechowicdziedzic--153704.html
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#KolejeDolnośląskie: realizują zastępczą komunikację autobusową, bo nie ma torów (są dopiero w planach).
#PolRegio: realizuje ZKA, bo nie ma taboru.
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Po tygodniu piekła żaru
I niepojętego skwaru,
Przyszły deszcze, no i burze,
Toteż z dala uciec muszę.Byłbym jechał do Szczecina,
Opóźnienia już godzina!
Pojechałem do Gorzowa,
Co pewniejszy tabor chowa.A tu taka niespodzianka,
Odwołany powrót – z ranka.
Myślę: zbąszyńskim objazdem,
Tam też widzę busem jazdę.Znów pociągi odwołali,
Ludzie będą się wkurzali.
Będą pisać po gazetach,
Krwi wołając za ten nietakt.Znów lubuskie mądre głowy
Kontemplować będą nowych
Przewoźników utworzenie,
By ukrócić swe cierpienie.Lecz pieniądze nie na składy,
Toteż jeździ złom kulawy.
Nie na kolej, lecz w lotnisko,
Inwestują tutaj wszystko.Tak lubuską mą balladę
Kończę – niosąc czekoladę,
Co roztopi się w tym busie,
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On the other hand, despite Polregio's confidence that they have technical problems with Germany-crossing units figured out, over 40% of local trains between Rzepin and Frankfurt (Oder) were canceled and replaced with buses in the month of May: https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/polregio-trudny-maj-na-przejsciu-rzepin--frankfurt--153240.html
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And just today, an Impuls EMU travelled to Szczecin chemical plant suburb town of Police as part of an announcement - the long-delayed return of passenger trains to the line encircling the city will happen early next year (subject to availability of voivodeship/city funds, as I understand it): https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/skm-szczecin-pociagi-do-polic-pojada-w-2027-roku-153199.html
The proposed timetable envisions hourly trains, boosted to half-hourly most weekday hours (I believe) to/from Police, with additional hourly (half-hourly in peak) trains terminating at Szczecin Niebuszewo. Most of these would be integrated into the exisiting Regio network and continue to destinations around the voivodeship and beyond: https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/ponad-30-par-pociagow-ze-szczecina-do-polic-mamy-projekt-rozkladu-jazdy-153191.html
#kolej #rail #Zachodniopomorskie #Szczecin #SKM #Polregio #RegionalRail
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Meanwhile, there's also some crazy tender action I missed going on in Warmia-Masuria (I thought they signed a new contract a few years ago, guess they finally realized they need to add more train-km if they are to keep reopening lines?) and BOTH Arriva and Polregio have filed appeals claiming a veritable litany of violations in the order specification itself. Both document packages together are about 60 megs zipped
#WarminskoMazurskie #kolej #rail #RegionalRail #Polregio #Arriva
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@NymeHess Huh, looked into the timetable and it looks like they actually managed to get all those Gdańsk Wrzeszcz-Stara Piła-Kartuzy-Somonino trains exactly aligned to the minute every hour, where my notes suggest that it was still messed up a little back in January. They will run shortened to Żukowo Zachodnie on weekends, still perfectly aligned but with sliiiightly different minutes at that station
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Elsewhere, Poland's next major timetable change is on the coming weekend and will mark the return of trains to Łomża in the western part of the Podlachian Voivodeship - Polregio drivers are getting their route knowledge rides in: https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/polregio-pociagi-wracaja-do-lomzy-153132.html
For a bit more info on changes to PLK timetables elsewhere you can see this post by @NymeHess (in German): https://zug.network/@NymeHess/116626380703078077
(in Pomerania, this includes the return of trains to Somonino, notably)
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In Pomerania railway news - the voivodeship has announced it will use emergency powers to extend existing contracts for the SKM line and diesel Regios while the lots are retendered - final new contracts for the other two will be signed, so SKMT is set to take over EMU regios in December (wonder what will happen to the trains to Bydgoszcz and Olsztyn, by the way): https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/pomorskie-najpierw-tryb-zakloceniowy-potem--nowy-przetarg-na-przewozy-153083.html
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In today's round of merely passing on Polish rail industry news…
Poles will soon be able to ~~enjoy~~ suffer from the infamous LINT diesel units - the first one imported from the West by Polregio has received the company livery: https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/pierwszy-z-lintow-juz-w-barwach-polregio-152876.html
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In Pomerania, the soon-to-be voivodeship railway SKM Trójmiasto has crossed a hurdle towards taking over regional electrified lines - Polregio's appeal against the award has been dismissed, despite SKMT seemingly undervaluing their offer by about the amount they overvalued their offer for the urban trains they already ran (where Polregio doesn't have the resources to compete). This latter lot has yet to be formally awarded despite the seemingly forgone conclusion, perhaps because of the open questions: https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/pomorskie-skm-trojmiasto-coraz-blizej-umowy-kosztem-polregio-152743.html
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The newly-restored line to Łomża will only have three pairs of regional trains on weekends (four on working days) - less than the four required by the terms of the Kolej Plus scheme covering the investment. The voivodeship justifies this with 'continuing works' and claims that the proper minimum service will be run - once the project is really done: https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/podlaskie-tylko-trzy-pociagi-regionalne-do-lomzy-w-weekendy-152778.html
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So, a little Rynek Kolejowy drop: Koleje Dolnośląskie (Lower Silesian Railways) will take over the remaining Głogów-Zielona Góra trains from Polregio, having previously been given all trains running through from Wrocław. The Zielona Góra-Żary-Węgliniec-Görlitz route will remain with Polregio for the time being despite speculation and the voivodeship's continued disappointment with the company's performance. The Lubusz Voivodeship also confirmed their Lower Silesian counterparts' earlier announcement that they will be running Legnica-Cottbus trains (as seen at https://mastodon.com.pl/@HaTetsu/116438917153980057): https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/koleje-dolnoslaskie-zastapia-polregio-na-trasie-glogow--zielona-gora--152732.html
#kolej #rail #CrossRegionRail #KolejeDolnoslaskie #Polregio #RegionalRail
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No word on how they're going to fix their rolling stock woes ("need help"), but also opposes the restoration of the 4th railway package tender exception for local governments ordering from their own companies due to 1) uncertainty regarding the bailout settlement (as a reminder, Poland removed exceptions to the tendering requirement from its implementation of said EU law in exchange for being allowed to bail out Polregio with state budget money) and 2) the simple fact that it means Polregio is less likely to get more contracts.
There's some copium in there, but apparently the strategic aim right now is to get in-house repair facilities prepared for the major P4 and P5 level inspections and overhauls, so that they can undercut voivodeship railways on maintenance costs.He also praised the people of company for their competence and drive, considering them the best surprise he found. Which is perhaps the best thing you can hope for in any huge organization :)
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In an interview, the recently appointed CEO of Polregio advocates for unification of ownership under PKP SA (ie. for the central government to buy out all voivodeship shares in the company - currently, since the 2014 bailout, about half of the shares are owned by a state-owned holding company, while the rest is split between all voivodeships proportionally to their population - including Masovia, which doesn't use Polregio services at all), so that it may act as a counterpart to PKP Intercity focused on "eliminating transport exclusion" (ie. so that random local cross-voivodeship connections return to being served by a regional operator with regional rolling stock and not random TLK trains thrown into the national long-distance rail contract) and improve political control over railway policy: https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/pawlowski-polregio-struktura-wlascicielska-do-zmiany-tabor-niezbedny-142272.html
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Porozmawiajmy o wzajemnym honorowaniu biletów kolejowych.
Jak wiele osób już się przekonało, z biletem #PKP #InterCity nie pojedzie osobowym. Nie wymienią go też na właściwy bilet — muszą kupić nowy bilet, otrzymując przy tym poświadczenie o niewykorzystaniu starego, a następnie ten stary zwrócić.
Między pociągami osobowymi różnych przewoźników również nie jest różowo. Szczęśliwie, dziś już najbardziej podstawowe oferty są objęte wzajemnym honorowaniem (możliwe nawet, że już niezależnie od kanału sprzedaży — choć miałbym wątpliwości np. przy biletach w aplikacji przewoźnika). Technicznie możemy też kupić wspólny bilet na przejazd pociągami kilku przewoźników, choć w praktyce może polegać to na kupowaniu częściowego biletu z adnotacją, i przedłużaniu go w kolejnym pociągu. Z innymi ofertami jest różnie.
Największym absurdem jest jednak to, że nawet w obrębie jednego przewoźnika (#PolRegio) honorowanie ofert może być uzależnione od (fanaberii władz) regionu. I tak na przykład jadąc bezpośrednim pociągiem z Chojnic (woj. pomorskie) do Słupska (woj. pomorskie) nie skorzystamy z ofert pomorskiego, albowiem po drodze mijamy kilka stacji na terenie zachodniopomorskiego. Z kolei w woj. pomorskim i wielkopolskim nie skorzystamy ze zniżki na podstawie REGIOkarty, chyba że nie będzie to relacja "wewnętrzna", jakkolwiek to należy interpretować.
Jak podróżny ma się w tym nie pogubić? Cóż, cieszę się, że mam sieciówkę z krótką listą wyjątków, które łatwo zapamiętać.
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Dziś odkryłem, że #PolRegio zaczęło znów uruchamiać pociągi osobowe. W sensie, obok "regio".
Teraz ktoś mądry może mi wyłożyć różnicę między tymi dwoma kategoriami handlowymi.
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Nikomu to niepotrzebne, ale stopniowanie biletów sieciowych z punktu widzenia Wielkiej Polski.
Bus-Tramwaj-Kolej G+A: obejmuje pociągi KW+PR na liniach promieniowych z Poznania, na przypadkowo ustalone długości, plus linię Jarocin – Gniezno oraz strefę A komunikacji miejskiej w Poznaniu. 478 PLN/m-c.
Bilet sieciowy KW: obejmuje pociągi KW (za wyjątkiem ofert specjalnych), i PR na odcinkach obsługiwanych wspólnie z KW. 490 PLN/m-c.
Bilet sieciowy PR: obejmuje pociągi PR, KD, KMł, KW, ŁKA (za wyjątkiem ofert specjalnych). 516 PLN/m-c.
Karta IC, 2 klasa: obejmuje wszystkie pociągi IC, PR i większości przewoźników osobowych (za wyjątkiem ofert specjalnych i SKM Warszawa). 12100 PLN/rok → ~1010 PLN/m-c.
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Kinda interesting day at Rynek Kolejowy today, here's some of the stories:
First, a reminder to those who don't dig into yearly timetables (that sorta includes me too) - trains will be replaced by buses from the March timetable change until the end of August between Jasło and Krosno in Subcarpathia. This is in addition to the existing closures further down the line to Zagórz and Ustrzyki, where the voivodeship opted to cancel the trains, arguing that the existing bus offer is sufficient and paying for train replacement buses would have been a waste of money: https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/podkarpackie-autobusy-zastepcze-do-zagorza-to-niegospodarnosc--126399.html1/
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Last week at #Kraków 🇵🇱 Glówny station: this is a largely unrefurbished #EN57 unit, formerly operated by #PKP and seen here displaying the #Polregio livery. These trainsets were (or still are) nicknamed #kibel (for loo 🚽…) by Polish railfans. The refurbished units of the class are dubbed #turbokibel.
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And in Polish railway bullshit, I keep finding new kinds of substandard timetables - like here in Żulin (I feel like I shouldn't find the name funny :/), a formerly full-blown station where the last train from Lublin was moved earlier this #RailwayNewYear and now departs 15:54 for a 16:40 departure onwards from there. After that, there's another Regio pair (and another train north on weekends and another IC south, but that wouldn't stop here no matter what) which passes this and one other halt nearby which is NOT a demand stop, but starts stopping everywhere from Krasnystaw.
#Lubelskie #Polregio #PKP #PLK #Kolej #RozkładJazdy #Timetable #RegionalRail
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I like that headline: Podlachia: Another Declaration Of End Of Rolling Stock Issues
(It got bad enough that they were running short DMUs on mainline EMU routes. After they said they would have it all under control half a year ago)
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TIL że w weekendy na magistrali Poznań-Katowice na granicy województw wielkopolskiego i opolskiego jest JEDNA para pociągów Regio, przy czterech IC-kach. (I jeśli wierzyć e-Podróżnikowi, autobusów z samego styku, z Kostowa, do najbliższej stacji IC-ków w Byczynie też nie ma) (W dni robocze są i cztery Regio)
Punkt na aktualizowanej przeze mnie mapie: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/railway-poland-the-borders-or-styki-polski-mid-upd_1278268?feature=%C5%81%C4%99ka%20Opatowska%20WP%20-%20Kost%C3%B3w%20OP#9/51.2228/17.8720
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Aaaaand apparently, the Lublin Voivodeship followed Lubusz in voting to set up their own train company - Lubelskie Koleje (surely that's an error, right? That's not how word order works in proper names in Polish) - today: https://www.lubelskie.pl/aktualnosci/xviii-sesja-sejmiku-wojewodztwa-lubelskiego-2/ (this is just an agenda link, I learned of it via SkyscraperCity but couldn't get the session recording myself, so this will have to do)
cc @smveerman
#Kolej #PolRegio #LubelskieKoleje #Rail #regionalRail #Lubelskie
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W sumie nie doczytałem wcześniej, jakie były przewidziane przez organizatora sumy i tu widać bardzo ciekawy wątek w kwestii #SKMT - jakoś tak ładnie oferta na SKM im wyszła ~139 mln powyżej budżetu a na Regio - ~138 mln poniżej budżetu…
#Polregio wyszło powyżej przewidzianej kwoty w elektrykach (parędziesiąt mln) i w dieslach (111 mln), jedynie na Malbork-Grudziądz się zmieścili -
In EMUs, SKMT probably has a clear advantage because a) they already run most of the EMU types Pomerania uses (not EN57AL and not Impuls 1, but there's probably a lot of similarities to others they do) and b) they are already at least stabling some of them, haven't tried tracking down more details but I think odds are they're somewhat familiar with them from the service side, too:
https://rail.phototrans.eu/14,150104,0.html (look for the light gray splotches on the rightmost tracks)4/4
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Back in 2015 with the opening of the PKM line (https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linia_kolejowa_nr_248), SKMT was given the task of operating it using brand-new Pesa DMUs ordered by the voivodeship to go with it (which is also where they introduced the gray with red accents livery they use everywhere now and looks freaking ugly everywhere else imo) and, well, it turned out the company was unprepared for the task of servicing Diesel stock and quickly started subcontracting an increasing number of trains to Polregio until in 2018 the voivodeship decided to oficially hand the line to PR and let SKMT focus on its traditional Gdańsk-Wejherowo route.
On reflection, you could perhaps say that the Chojnice DMU works is kind of the crown jewel of Pomeranian Polregio right now, guaranteeing their position for the time being as anyone trying to serve the interior of the voivodeship would need to build an equivalent maintenance base on their own.3/x
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To expand on the context a bit, there was no real competition for SKM services as those are still heavily reliant on SKMT's remodeled (and infamously non-air-conditioned) EN57AKM and EN71 units, leading to voivodeship-provided Impuls (and two refurbished EN57/71) units only making up 52% of the rolling stock needs.
Similarly, in the most-of-voivodeship DMU order, only two thirds of the stock was voivodeship-provided and SKMT has been burnt before regarding Diesel service and clearly recognizes the need to leverage their strengths if they are to successfully expand into a voivodeship railway2/x
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In headline-ish form for the international audience: Pomeranian Voivodeship reveals offers in tender for 2027~2030 timetable years, SKMT unexpectedly bids and outbids Polregio for regional EMU lines by >150 mln PLN (~27% cheaper), Polregio prevails against challenge from Arriva on Malbork-Grudziądz, no competition for SKM and DMU services
https://platformazakupowa.pl/transakcja/1195109
cc @smveerman