#pinetta — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #pinetta, aggregated by home.social.
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I haven't had a lot of spare time for big projects lately (sorry #Pinetta). But with the little spare time that I do have, I've been puttering with a little idea for a daily word-guessing puzzle game to be deployed on #Gemini (the #smolweb protocol, not the AI). I've actually got a proof-of-concept going with most of the gameplay basics working, and it seems pretty fun. The bulk of the work that remains is editing the clues for grammar, which is not so fun, but hey, gotta do it. :P
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To be honest, the problem is a lot more pronounced with media sharing than with microblogging. I wonder if that's one reason why there's been a lot more proliferation of microblogging sites on Fedi versus media sharing sites - running your own instance involves a greater investment to handle streaming and storage.
Media storage is going to be an issue for #Pinetta too; it's a can that we've been kicking down the road for a while now.
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@Sans_DeC Alors c'est rigolo que tu demandes ça parce que j'en ai parlé pas plus tard qu'hier sur mon compte en anglais
› https://floss.social/@danslerush/112127775048232009Il semblerait que #Pinry soit au point mort (même si utilisable en l'état). Par contre, même si en "stand by" depuis quelques mois, #Pinetta promet lui la fédération 🤓
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@Sans_DeC Alors c'est rigolo que tu demandes ça parce que j'en ai parlé pas plus tard qu'hier sur mon compte en anglais
› https://floss.social/@danslerush/112127775048232009Il semblerait que #Pinry soit au point mort (même si utilisable en l'état). Par contre, même si en "stand by" depuis quelques mois, #Pinetta promet lui la fédération 🤓
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@Sans_DeC Alors c'est rigolo que tu demandes ça parce que j'en ai parlé pas plus tard qu'hier sur mon compte en anglais
› https://floss.social/@danslerush/112127775048232009Il semblerait que #Pinry soit au point mort (même si utilisable en l'état). Par contre, même si en "stand by" depuis quelques mois, #Pinetta promet lui la fédération 🤓
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BTW: No, it's not dead (#Pinetta that is). Had a long hiatus due to IRL business, and since this is more or less at the level of a hobby project for me, it got shifted to the back burner. A few other people are involved as of now, but all of us are busy. As well, one big problem for me is the lack of a good-quality dev environment: What I have right now is really best for puttering, and not much more. So, as we often say, watch this space. #fediDev
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Been trying to move forward with adding pins to #Pinetta. @amthecoat has been great, getting #devOps set up as we transition over to postgres. Only trouble is my potato computer won't build a usable version of compose 😭 oh well, we'll get this eventually. I do have #postgres installed on its own on the box... shouldn't it be possible to set things up to use that instead of running it in a container? 🤔
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There's been plenty of buzz lately surrounding #Meta connecting to the #Fediverse through #ActivityPub. As a #FOSS project that hasn't yet shipped software that federates, we don't have too much to say yet. However, it's worth saying a few things about how #Pinetta will federate, in general.
Briefly, Pinetta is a creative tool with social characteristics. Server admins will be able to operate in both "allow mode" and "deny mode"; they can choose to federate with everyone, a select few, or even no one. This means, for example, that you'll be able to use Pinetta as a fully functional Fediverse server open to large communities, or as a private server—for instance, in the context of a school where students might produce and share work with only the school's community of learners, staff, and selected guests. Even if you choose to federate with other servers, users will have fine-grained control over the reach and visibility of their posts, similar to the way #Hometown and #Calckey users do. Essentially, we're aiming to make community safety as configurable as possible to meet the widest possible set of needs—including those of the most vulnerable people and communities.
As a project, we don't plan on hosting a central instance for very large numbers of users to use; for the time being, our goal is to gradually refine the software to allow it to respond to the needs of communities, and to foster the development of united, diverse and healthy communities based on respect and trust. Our aspiration is to serve humanity, whether it's by making a nice app or by creating human connections that allow good people to do good things together. We will amplify the voices of those who share these values and aspirations, and will work actively with collaborators everywhere to prevent harm. -
This week, the #Pinetta team has been busy on multiple fronts! Our #Codeberg repos have been popping, with one feature branch (user model) closed and a new one (user avatars) opened, and progress made on a number of issues. We've also gathered feedback from #askFedi to help us learn about people's experience with #Pinterest, which will help us set goals properly. Finally, our #Matrix channels have been busy as we collaborate both on the technical and community frameworks—and as we prepare to produce the first of several documents to express our collective vision and principles for the project.
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There's lots of talk right now about how #Reddit alternatives such as #Lemmy, #kbin and #Lotide fit into the overall picture of the #Fediverse, with some calling these link-aggregation sites collectively the "Threadiverse". But how does #Pinetta fit into the mix?
Much like a link aggregator, Pinetta allows users to collect and comment on various things like links, text, images, video, and so on. In that sense, it will interact almost seamlessly with federated link aggregators. The main difference, of course, is in the user interface. Pinetta will have a number of modes that users can choose to display content:
- As a "feed" chronologically or ranked based on most engaging posts (based on favourites and boosts);
- As a "grid" similar to how #Pixelfed displays images in profiles;
- As a "masonry" layout - much like how #Pinterest displays pins by default;
- As a "mood board", which will allow users to arrange pins visually to their liking in a freeform 2D layout.
Like what you're reading? So do we. Give us a follow and star our repos on Codeberg to keep up with development! -
Going through #Codeberg issues to clear up next steps for #Pinetta's technical framework. Much of the work on this side has been hashing out the database schema and setting up a #Django prototype with a custom user model. @[email protected] worked hard on this and we now have a codebase that runs a very basic site that implements new account creation, log in and log out.
Feel like checking it out? Pull the feature/user-model branch of the prototype repo and follow the steps in the README! (Make sure you have #Python 3.11 installed.)
https://codeberg.org/pinetta/proto-pinetta/src/branch/feature/user-model -
What's the best way to get feedback from—and have discussions with—#Pinetta's community of interest?
https://codeberg.org/pinetta/pinetta/issues/3
#AskFedi #CommunityBuilding cc @[email protected] -
Help #Pinetta elaborate its vision, common goals and principles! A new @[email protected] issue has been created for discussion.
https://codeberg.org/pinetta/pinetta/issues/2
And as always, feel free to join us on @[email protected] for more-or-less live discussion:
https://matrix.to/#/#pinetta-space:matrix.org
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Welcome to #Pinetta's new home on fedi.software! @[email protected] (maintainer of #Calckey) was kind enough to create a new instance specifically for #Fediverse software projects, so here we are. :pinetta:
What's new for us? Well, we're currently planning a new round of community-building and development after an extended bout of IRL business. Goals for this summer: Establish a Trust & Safety team, finish writing up our statement of principles and code of conduct, continue building our team's capacity for #CommunityBuilding, strengthen ties with other Fedi projects... oh, and keep poking at this Django app. 👆
Like what we're planning? Don't forget to join us on #Matrix (https://matrix.to/#/#pinetta:matrix.org) and star our #Codeberg repo (https://codeberg.org/pinetta/proto-pinetta)! -
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And as a little post-script to this thread, if #Pinetta sounds interesting to you and you liked what you read above, please feel free to:
▫️ follow @pinetta 📌
▫️ star its prototype repo on @Codeberg (https://codeberg.org/pinetta/proto-pinetta/issues) ⭐, and
▫️ join its @matrix space: https://matrix.to/#/#pinetta-space:matrix.org 💬 ❤️ -
Anyway, tl;dr (and pardon the digression?):
#Pinetta's not dead! As the pet shop owner said, "it's just resting".
Personally I'd love to hear from like-minded people who think they could either contribute or make connections with experienced people on this. People who can work with #Python and #Django for the prototype, people who know #CommunityBuilding and #TrustAndSafety. And, in the end, if it's meant to happen, it will happen, and we can stop making jokes about it being vaporware.
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But to be honest, there are some significant challenges.
First, I don't think I can keep it going on my own, full-time. I have a career and I don't intend to be a rockstar like @dansup or in the news like @Gargron. If #Pinetta is going to happen, it needs a community.
Second, that community needs to be switched on to the realities I mentioned, and ready to tackle things like #ContentModeration, #Federation, and the rapidly changing landscape of decentralized social networks.
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So, where does that leave #Pinetta? Well, just because it won't solve the problems of racial, national, sexual, or economic #prejudice on its own, doesn't mean that it's not a good idea. There's been a lot of interest in the project. A lot of people want to see it happen. We've had a lot of ideas, too—like opt-in, tagged commercial posting that would allow small-scale creators to show off their stuff and grow support networks while allowing users to choose what, and how much, they want to see.
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As I mentioned the other day, #Pinetta has been on hold for a bit as I get through a super busy time IRL.
For context, I had thought about a Pinterest clone for Fedi since a while ago, but I only really started talking about the project after paying close attention to the trouble that black and indigenous people were having with #racism on Mastodon. Basically, I came to feel that Mastodon's structural shortcomings weren't going away, and that there was the desire for something to address them.
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Now, to me, that raises lots of questions about what I'm calling content sovereignty—that is, a user is the boss of what they post. Users should be able to opt out of *their own content* being shared in other people's collections in this way, just as they should be able to opt out of comments etc. This means that if you use #Pinetta and opt out of sharing for all your posts, another Pinetta user won't be able to share it; ideally boosts/AP announce from elsewhere will be disallowed as well.
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With a little nudge from @catboomer, we've been having some conversations about #Pinetta as a content discovery mechanism for the #Fediverse. Seeing as it can potentially federate with and display everything on the Fedi via #ActivityPub, that means people who want to could use it to curate their own personal collections of what's good—sort of like a DIY FediFollows. Pretty nice idea.
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Are you a #WomanInTech with an interest in #FOSS? The #Pinetta project is looking for devs, designers, and community builders who are interested in contributing to a FOSS #ActivityPub project and shaping both community and technical frameworks. Give us a follow and a shout!
#WomenInTech #WomenInSTEM #WomenWhoCode #WomenArtists