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As my head has been full of all the #PassengerPackage stuff this week, I have barely had a moment for any other railway news
For tomorrows newsletter I have:
Bullshit meter - ICE-L to Oslo
Good news - FS wins a contract to rebuild a Serbian line
Bad news - the Wunderline re-opening is delayed againBut did anyone have a Very Bad Week I have missed?
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As my head has been full of all the #PassengerPackage stuff this week, I have barely had a moment for any other railway news
For tomorrows newsletter I have:
Bullshit meter - ICE-L to Oslo
Good news - FS wins a contract to rebuild a Serbian line
Bad news - the Wunderline re-opening is delayed againBut did anyone have a Very Bad Week I have missed?
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That state owned railways trade body CER would not like the #PassengerPackage was to be expected
That they'd be quite so incoherently critical was interesting and worrying too
Time for a course correction, as I explain here 👇
https://jonworth.eu/state-railways-whats-wrong-cers-perplexing-response-to-the-european-commissions-passenger-package/ -
That state owned railways trade body CER would not like the #PassengerPackage was to be expected
That they'd be quite so incoherently critical was interesting and worrying too
Time for a course correction, as I explain here 👇
https://jonworth.eu/state-railways-whats-wrong-cers-perplexing-response-to-the-european-commissions-passenger-package/ -
That state owned railways trade body @[email protected] would not like the #PassengerPackage was to be expected That they'd be quite so incoherently critical was interesting and worrying too Time for a course correction, as I explain here 👇 jonworth.eu/state-railwa...
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RT by @Transport_EU: One journey. One ticket. Full rights for the passengers. 🇪🇺🚆
🙅 No more fragmented tickets or complicated bookings when travelling across Europe. Today I presented, together with EVP @RaffaeleFitto, our new Passenger Package — a clear step forward towards making rail travel in Europe simpler, fairer and truly seamless.
✔️ One ticket across operators and borders
✔️ Full passenger rights from start to end
✔️ Clearer, simpler booking
✔️ A fairer and more open ticketing market#ConnectingEurope #PassengerPackage
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https://nitter.net/tzitzikostas/status/2054645554546933937#m -
RT by @Transport_EU: One journey. One ticket. Full rights for the passengers. 🇪🇺🚆
🙅 No more fragmented tickets or complicated bookings when travelling across Europe. Today I presented, together with EVP @RaffaeleFitto, our new Passenger Package — a clear step forward towards making rail travel in Europe simpler, fairer and truly seamless.
✔️ One ticket across operators and borders
✔️ Full passenger rights from start to end
✔️ Clearer, simpler booking
✔️ A fairer and more open ticketing market#ConnectingEurope #PassengerPackage
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https://nitter.net/tzitzikostas/status/2054645554546933937#m -
This one rail ticket / #PassengerPackage stuff in the past 24 hours is for me that weird moment when what I work on everyday temporarily goes mainstream Some followers of mine stop and think “I wonder what Jon thinks?” while many more happily boost the exaggerated Commission line and news stories
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This one rail ticket / #PassengerPackage stuff in the past 24 hours is for me that weird moment when what I work on everyday temporarily goes mainstream
Some followers of mine stop and think “I wonder what Jon thinks?” while many many more just happily boost the exaggerated Commission line and news stories
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This one rail ticket / #PassengerPackage stuff in the past 24 hours is for me that weird moment when what I work on everyday temporarily goes mainstream
Some followers of mine stop and think “I wonder what Jon thinks?” while many many more just happily boost the exaggerated Commission line and news stories
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Some of this discussion about #PassengerPackage makes me think I’m losing my mind
This stuff isn’t easy. There are big sums of money at stake. There won’t be only winners
But the amount of spurious and obviously disingenuous arguments deployed by supposedly intelligent people is quite extraordinary
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Some of this discussion about #PassengerPackage makes me think I’m losing my mind
This stuff isn’t easy. There are big sums of money at stake. There won’t be only winners
But the amount of spurious and obviously disingenuous arguments deployed by supposedly intelligent people is quite extraordinary
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And I’ve got state railway sock puppets commenting on #PassengerPackage on LinkedIn telling me the proposal is against the OSDM implementation the industry has done (it’s not) and will only assist US tech
What’s with these people? I get you might defend your employer, but why use arguments that are obviously bollocks?
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And I’ve got state railway sock puppets commenting on #PassengerPackage on LinkedIn telling me the proposal is against the OSDM implementation the industry has done (it’s not) and will only assist US tech
What’s with these people? I get you might defend your employer, but why use arguments that are obviously bollocks?
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State railways this week
CER (state railway trade lobby) in Brussels
“Big evil US tech platforms will cream off our profits if the EU gets its way with ticketing reform!”DB Regio
“Hey Google, here’s a load of data so you can sell our tickets!”
https://railway-news.com/db-regio-introduces-ticket-purchase-options-via-google-maps/Hypocrites.
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State railways this week
CER (state railway trade lobby) in Brussels
“Big evil US tech platforms will cream off our profits if the EU gets its way with ticketing reform!”DB Regio
“Hey Google, here’s a load of data so you can sell our tickets!”
https://railway-news.com/db-regio-introduces-ticket-purchase-options-via-google-maps/Hypocrites.
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In the end at least there’s this: the European Commission’s #PassengerPackage as drafted is not a step backwards, and it might put a few things right. It won’t make anything worse in its current form. Sure, I’d not have done it this way. But it’s not a backward step. That’s something.
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In the end at least there’s this: the European Commission’s #PassengerPackage as drafted is not a step backwards, and it might put a few things right. It won’t make anything worse in its current form.
Sure, I’d not have done it this way.
But it’s not a backward step.
That’s something.
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In the end at least there’s this: the European Commission’s #PassengerPackage as drafted is not a step backwards, and it might put a few things right. It won’t make anything worse in its current form.
Sure, I’d not have done it this way.
But it’s not a backward step.
That’s something.
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I suppose in the end I am the weird one regarding #PassengerPackage
I want a workable outcome, that works for occasional passengers, and regular passengers, and does not overly burden railway companies. And have done enough thinking to know what that outcome is
Pretty much no one else is is approaching the conundrum this way
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I suppose in the end I am the weird one regarding #PassengerPackage
I want a workable outcome, that works for occasional passengers, and regular passengers, and does not overly burden railway companies. And have done enough thinking to know what that outcome is
Pretty much no one else is is approaching the conundrum this way
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I still don't, at heart, get it 😡
Why is the European Commission picking such a big fight with state owned railway companies in #PassengerPackage, in order to defend a slogan driven policy?
The Commission could get a better outcome and less opposition with one change: ticketS not ticket.
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I still don't, at heart, get it 😡
Why is the European Commission picking such a big fight with state owned railway companies in #PassengerPackage, in order to defend a slogan driven policy?
The Commission could get a better outcome and less opposition with one change: ticketS not ticket.
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I still don't, at heart, get it 😡 Why is the European Commission picking such a big fight with state owned railway companies in #PassengerPackage, in order to defend a slogan driven policy? The Commission could get a better outcome and less opposition with one change: ticketS not ticket.
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Är ni intresserade av dagens nyhet om passagerarrättigheter för tågresenärer (#PassengerPackage) så har dessa konton mer info:
ERPU: https://eupolicy.social/@erpu/116567677105457288
Jon Worth: https://gruene.social/@jon/116567764912688041
Stefan Lindbohm: https://mastodon.social/@stefanlindbohm/116566738975168711
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Är ni intresserade av dagens nyhet om passagerarrättigheter för tågresenärer (#PassengerPackage) så har dessa konton mer info:
ERPU: https://eupolicy.social/@erpu/116567677105457288
Jon Worth: https://gruene.social/@jon/116567764912688041
Stefan Lindbohm: https://mastodon.social/@stefanlindbohm/116566738975168711
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Auch SRF berichtet über das #PassengerPackage der EU-Kommission - die Stolperfallen ebenfalls weitestgehend ausblendend.
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LOL 😂 CER is throwing its toys out of the pram about the #PassengerPackage Later on I will take this one apart, piece by piece It's fantastically awful, amusingly so www.cer.be/cer-press-re...
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LOL 😂
CER is throwing its toys out of the pram about the #PassengerPackage
Later on I will take this one apart, piece by piece
It's fantastically awful, amusingly so
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LOL 😂
CER is throwing its toys out of the pram about the #PassengerPackage
Later on I will take this one apart, piece by piece
It's fantastically awful, amusingly so
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Earlier I explained how the European Commission's proposals on rail ticketing are both radical and, in their current form, unworkable Now I have started to work out what Parliament and Council would have to do to make things more workable from here #PassengerPackage jonworth.eu/how-to-make-...
How to make the rail ticketing... -
Earlier I explained how the European Commission's proposals on rail ticketing are both radical and, in their current form, unworkable Now I have started to work out what Parliament and Council would have to do to make things more workable from here #PassengerPackage jonworth.eu/how-to-make-...
How to make the rail ticketing... -
Earlier today I explained how the European Commission's proposals on rail ticketing are both radical and, in their current form, unworkable
Now I have started to work out what European Parliament and Council would have to do to make things more workable from here
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Earlier today I explained how the European Commission's proposals on rail ticketing are both radical and, in their current form, unworkable
Now I have started to work out what European Parliament and Council would have to do to make things more workable from here
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https://timogrossenbacher.ch/a-ticket-selling-obligation-is-a-bad-idea-because-of-ux/ – the two cents of nightride.com founder Timo. #passengerpackage
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https://timogrossenbacher.ch/a-ticket-selling-obligation-is-a-bad-idea-because-of-ux/ – the two cents of nightride.com founder Timo. #passengerpackage
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I had most of the #PassengerPackage leaked to me yesterday afternoon, and that allowed me to prepare my response, getting it out in a timely fashion: https://jonworth.eu/how-the-gospel-the-political-guidelines-left-the-european-commission-with-a-ticketing-proposal-both-radical-and-unworkable/
I cannot imagine the main trade associations did not have the same leaks I did?
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I had most of the #PassengerPackage leaked to me yesterday afternoon, and that allowed me to prepare my response, getting it out in a timely fashion: https://jonworth.eu/how-the-gospel-the-political-guidelines-left-the-european-commission-with-a-ticketing-proposal-both-radical-and-unworkable/
I cannot imagine the main trade associations did not have the same leaks I did?
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It's quite amusing
#PassengerPackage is the most important legal proposal on rail from the Commission this year, perhaps even in the whole 5 year term
Trade lobbies CER:
Site: https://www.cer.be
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cer-community-of-european-railway-and-infrastructure-companies-/?originalSubdomain=beAnd ALLRAIL:
Site: https://www.allrail.eu
LinkeIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allraileu/posts/?feedView=allSo far: NOTHING AT ALL! 😳
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It's quite amusing
#PassengerPackage is the most important legal proposal on rail from the Commission this year, perhaps even in the whole 5 year term
Trade lobbies CER:
Site: https://www.cer.be
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cer-community-of-european-railway-and-infrastructure-companies-/?originalSubdomain=beAnd ALLRAIL:
Site: https://www.allrail.eu
LinkeIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allraileu/posts/?feedView=allSo far: NOTHING AT ALL! 😳
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If you're an occasional cross border rail traveller, #PassengerPackage might help you If you do it regularly, it might even make some things more complex And rail companies have heavy burdens to handle with this
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If your 🚆 journey: - crosses only 1 EU border - involves normal tickets - you're booking 5 months ahead or less then today's #PassengerPackage from the Commission is OK If it: - crosses more than 1 border - involves passes or reduction cards - you're planning long ahead ... then problems persist
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Agh, the journalists *mostly* want to talk about airline fuel, not the proposal 🤷♂️ #PassengerPackage
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Agh, the journalists *mostly* want to talk about airline fuel, not the proposal 🤷♂️ #PassengerPackage
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Damn this is painful. Neither Fitto nor Tzitzikostas know why this is being done *this way*. The vague gist of it they get. #PassengerPackage
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Damn this is painful. Neither Fitto nor Tzitzikostas know why this is being done *this way*. The vague gist of it they get. #PassengerPackage
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"This proposal is 100% pragmatic" says Tzitzikostas. WTF? No! #PassengerPackage
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"This proposal is 100% pragmatic" says Tzitzikostas. WTF? No! #PassengerPackage
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The EC has presented its #PassengerPackage
It sure does not lack in ambition to improve passenger rights and enable a fair and neutral ticketing market, and this ambition is great.
Proposed implementation contain many details that won’t work in practice, however. Hopefully there will be flexibility in the policy process to adopt changes necessary and ensure the fundamentals of passenger rights and fair data sharing & access remain and actually get passed in the end.
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Reminder: this is just the Commission proposal for the #PassengerPackage
It has to go to the EP and the Council from here
There is ZERO CHANCE it's going to not going to be amended!
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This is a total dog's dinner #PassengerPackage
Regulation PDF: https://transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download/a3284ec0-f1ad-4ee4-a558-5d4c17948046_en?filename=COM_2026_232_Proposal_on_rail_ticketing.pdf
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We're now talking about airlines in the press conference 🤷♂️ #PassengerPackage
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Basically in this #PassengerPackage the Commission seems to have in mind someone who takes a train once a year on holiday, not people who ever do this even semi regularly.
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This is not going to work. #PassengerPackage
There is a SINGLE TRANSACTION obligation to get rights - see https://transport.ec.europa.eu/document/download/fc019827-59c9-400f-a530-4d7d21957a7d_en?filename=COM_2026_233_Proposal_on_the_protection_of_passengers_with_single_tickets.pdf
BUT that means that IF you have some ticket already - a Klimaticket for example - and want to add something on to that, you are left without rights
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