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  1. A (wild?) speculation of mine is that CoViD 19 was an already established disease of some rural area. Unemployment due to the African Swine Fever Virus epizootic compelled residents to relocate. I am guessing that a market worker or truck driver infected the small carnivores and customers.

    trueinfections.com/Concerning_

    #OriginofCovid #Zoonosis #InfectiousDisease #InfectiousDiseases #SARSCoV2 #CoViD19 #Pandemic

  2. A (wild?) speculation of mine is that CoViD 19 was an already established disease of some rural area. Unemployment due to the African Swine Fever Virus epizootic compelled residents to relocate. I am guessing that a market worker or truck driver infected the small carnivores and customers.

    trueinfections.com/Concerning_

    #OriginofCovid #Zoonosis #InfectiousDisease #InfectiousDiseases #SARSCoV2 #CoViD19 #Pandemic

  3. My understanding is that the cave virus, though related to SARS CoV 2, shows no indication of being either an ancestor or "raw material". The mystery that remains is how small carnivores likely raised in Hubei were exposed to a coronavirus of bats 1000 km away. trueinfections.com/080922.html
    #originofcovid

  4. My understanding is that the cave virus, though related to SARS CoV 2, shows no indication of being either an ancestor or "raw material". The mystery that remains is how small carnivores likely raised in Hubei were exposed to a coronavirus of bats 1000 km away. trueinfections.com/080922.html
    #originofcovid

  5. "...
    All the men were linked. They had been given the task of clearing out piles of bat faeces in an abandoned copper mine in the hills south of the town of Tongguan in the Mojiang region. Some had worked for two weeks before falling ill, and others just a few days.
    ..."
    # # #
    Who sent the men to clean the mine? Why was an abandoned mine being cleaned?

    thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/art

    #SARSCoV2 #Pandemic #CoVid19 #originofcovid #InfectiousDisease #IDX #IDTwitter

  6. "...
    All the men were linked. They had been given the task of clearing out piles of bat faeces in an abandoned copper mine in the hills south of the town of Tongguan in the Mojiang region. Some had worked for two weeks before falling ill, and others just a few days.
    ..."
    # # #
    Who sent the men to clean the mine? Why was an abandoned mine being cleaned?

    thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/art

    #SARSCoV2 #Pandemic #CoVid19 #originofcovid #InfectiousDisease #IDX #IDTwitter

  7. "...
    All the men were linked. They had been given the task of clearing out piles of bat faeces in an abandoned copper mine in the hills south of the town of Tongguan in the Mojiang region. Some had worked for two weeks before falling ill, and others just a few days.
    ..."
    # # #
    Who sent the men to clean the mine? Why was an abandoned mine being cleaned?

    thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/art

    #SARSCoV2 #Pandemic #CoVid19 #originofcovid #InfectiousDisease #IDX #IDTwitter

  8. "...
    All the men were linked. They had been given the task of clearing out piles of bat faeces in an abandoned copper mine in the hills south of the town of Tongguan in the Mojiang region. Some had worked for two weeks before falling ill, and others just a few days.
    ..."
    # # #
    Who sent the men to clean the mine? Why was an abandoned mine being cleaned?

    thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/art

    #SARSCoV2 #Pandemic #CoVid19 #originofcovid #InfectiousDisease #IDX #IDTwitter

  9. "...
    All the men were linked. They had been given the task of clearing out piles of bat faeces in an abandoned copper mine in the hills south of the town of Tongguan in the Mojiang region. Some had worked for two weeks before falling ill, and others just a few days.
    ..."
    # # #
    Who sent the men to clean the mine? Why was an abandoned mine being cleaned?

    thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/art

    #SARSCoV2 #Pandemic #CoVid19 #originofcovid #InfectiousDisease #IDX #IDTwitter

  10. "U.S. Senator Rand Paul (R–KY), who has accused scientists of conducting dangerous research that created the coronavirus responsible for COVID-19, yesterday asked Science to divulge a range of confidential information about its scholarly articles and external private communications on that family of viruses.

    His letter seeks all relevant manuscripts submitted to Science, including unpublished ones; peer-reviewer comments and details of editorial ..."

    science.org/content/article/u-

    #OriginofCovid

  11. "U.S. Senator Rand Paul (R–KY), who has accused scientists of conducting dangerous research that created the coronavirus responsible for COVID-19, yesterday asked Science to divulge a range of confidential information about its scholarly articles and external private communications on that family of viruses.

    His letter seeks all relevant manuscripts submitted to Science, including unpublished ones; peer-reviewer comments and details of editorial ..."

    science.org/content/article/u-

    #OriginofCovid

  12. "... a man might as well go into a gravel-pit & count the pebbles & describe their colours."
    Charles Darwin
    # # #
    How much #OriginofCoViD research does this describe?

    darwinproject.ac.uk/letter?doc

  13. "... a man might as well go into a gravel-pit & count the pebbles & describe their colours."
    Charles Darwin
    # # #
    How much #OriginofCoViD research does this describe?

    darwinproject.ac.uk/letter?doc

  14. Highlights

    Fragments of the human SARS-CoVs share very recent common ancestors with bat viruses

    SARS-CoV-1-like and SARS-CoV-2-like viruses have circulated in Asia for millennia

    Recent ancestors of human SARS-CoVs likely circulated in Western China and Northern Laos

    These ancestors traveled unexpectedly fast to reach sites of human emergence

    sciencedirect.com/science/arti

    #OriginOfCovid #SARSCoV2 #Coronavirus #China

  15. Highlights

    Fragments of the human SARS-CoVs share very recent common ancestors with bat viruses

    SARS-CoV-1-like and SARS-CoV-2-like viruses have circulated in Asia for millennia

    Recent ancestors of human SARS-CoVs likely circulated in Western China and Northern Laos

    These ancestors traveled unexpectedly fast to reach sites of human emergence

    sciencedirect.com/science/arti

    #OriginOfCovid #SARSCoV2 #Coronavirus #China

  16. Does anyone know where Director Shi Zhengli posted this statement?

    "Shi Zhengli, a researcher from the institute, said on her social media on Sunday the virus was the result of "nature punishing the uncivilized habits and customs of humans", and she is willing to "bet my life that [the outbreak] has nothing to do with the lab.""

    global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202

    #China #OriginOfCovid #Pandemic #SarsCoV2

  17. Does anyone know where Director Shi Zhengli posted this statement?

    "Shi Zhengli, a researcher from the institute, said on her social media on Sunday the virus was the result of "nature punishing the uncivilized habits and customs of humans", and she is willing to "bet my life that [the outbreak] has nothing to do with the lab.""

    global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202

    #China #OriginOfCovid #Pandemic #SarsCoV2

  18. "That said, while coronaviruses do infect some bats, the SARS-CoV2 virus has never been found in any bats."
    # # #
    An expert on bats recently sent me this. Of course it's at the same time true and not true. With the size of rural China and that neither official China and some in the US have not encouraged a search, lack of data is not hard to understand. Plus, with quasispecies (RNA Swarm), SARS CoV 2 most likely NEVER will be found. #OriginOfCovid #SarsCoV2 #Zoonosis #Virology

  19. "That said, while coronaviruses do infect some bats, the SARS-CoV2 virus has never been found in any bats."
    # # #
    An expert on bats recently sent me this. Of course it's at the same time true and not true. With the size of rural China and that neither official China and some in the US have not encouraged a search, lack of data is not hard to understand. Plus, with quasispecies (RNA Swarm), SARS CoV 2 most likely NEVER will be found. #OriginOfCovid #SarsCoV2 #Zoonosis #Virology

  20. "That said, while coronaviruses do infect some bats, the SARS-CoV2 virus has never been found in any bats."
    # # #
    An expert on bats recently sent me this. Of course it's at the same time true and not true. With the size of rural China and that neither official China and some in the US have not encouraged a search, lack of data is not hard to understand. Plus, with quasispecies (RNA Swarm), SARS CoV 2 most likely NEVER will be found. #OriginOfCovid #SarsCoV2 #Zoonosis #Virology

  21. eurekalert.org/news-releases/1
    E-sales of a wild bat sold as décor threaten species
    # # #
    Have Kerivoula picta been checked for coronaviruses?

    Clearly, the collector is exposed to any pathogens. Taxidermy involves skinning. Organs and a carcass are not used. What happens to these? Is this being fed to Raccoon dogs and other predators raised for fur?

    Might this be how Racoon Dogs in the Wuhan market were exposed to insectivorous bats?

    #SarsCoV2 #Zoonosis #OriginOfCovid

  22. eurekalert.org/news-releases/1
    E-sales of a wild bat sold as décor threaten species
    # # #
    Have Kerivoula picta been checked for coronaviruses?

    Clearly, the collector is exposed to any pathogens. Taxidermy involves skinning. Organs and a carcass are not used. What happens to these? Is this being fed to Raccoon dogs and other predators raised for fur?

    Might this be how Racoon Dogs in the Wuhan market were exposed to insectivorous bats?

    #SarsCoV2 #Zoonosis #OriginOfCovid

  23. Interview @WeThe66Podcast of Dr John Moore who argued that non-experts like me should not be opining on #OriginOfCovid and that people should not criticize experts for spreading misinformation. Moore refused to do a joint interview so my part comes after. https://t.co/LKI1ea1jRP
  24. In a @TheSohoForum debate last night, @mattwridley persuasively argued for a lab #OriginOfCovid and defeated virologist Stephen Goldstein. https://t.co/cq5kKnkc3H
  25. I've seen videos of Fruit Bats being sold in the past at live animal markets. It's unlikely that insectivorous bats would survive long enough to be distributed live. My speculation is that bats were collected in rural areas as food for farmed predators.

    That during a public health crisis suspect animals would be released is unbelievable. Still, that's what a Washington Post Reporter was told:
    washingtonpost.com/world/asia_

    #OriginOfCovid #SarsCoV2 #Pandemic #Zoonosis

  26. I've seen videos of Fruit Bats being sold in the past at live animal markets. It's unlikely that insectivorous bats would survive long enough to be distributed live. My speculation is that bats were collected in rural areas as food for farmed predators.

    That during a public health crisis suspect animals would be released is unbelievable. Still, that's what a Washington Post Reporter was told:
    washingtonpost.com/world/asia_

    #OriginOfCovid #SarsCoV2 #Pandemic #Zoonosis

  27. The central question that's not being asked is how were people and/or farmed predators in China exposed to insectivorous bats. From the Eco Health serology study of 2018, we know that people had been in contact with bat coronavirus.
    Serological Evidence of Bat SARS-Related Coronavirus Infection in Humans, China
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/

    #OriginOfCovid #SarsCoV2 #Pandemic #Zoonosis

  28. The central question that's not being asked is how were people and/or farmed predators in China exposed to insectivorous bats. From the Eco Health serology study of 2018, we know that people had been in contact with bat coronavirus.
    Serological Evidence of Bat SARS-Related Coronavirus Infection in Humans, China
    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/

    #OriginOfCovid #SarsCoV2 #Pandemic #Zoonosis

  29. Daszak geïnterviewd door Maarten Keulemans over : archive.vn/RvLqk
    MK presenteert het als een kritisch vraaggesprek, had Daszak beter niet mee kunnen schrijven aan Proximal Origin of niet deelnemen aan de WHO-missie naar Wuhan? Maar hij gelooft Daszak op zijn woord.
    AlleBurgers bedreigt geen wetenschappers. Niemand. Nooit. Maar dat Daszak deelnam aan een cover-up van is zonneklaar. Een lab-lek is heel plausibel en dat weet hij.
    alleburgers.nl/2023/07/23/teke

  30. #ABCovid Daszak geïnterviewd door Maarten Keulemans over #OriginOfCovid: archive.vn/RvLqk
    MK presenteert het als een kritisch vraaggesprek, had Daszak beter niet mee kunnen schrijven aan Proximal Origin of niet deelnemen aan de WHO-missie naar Wuhan? Maar hij gelooft Daszak op zijn woord.
    AlleBurgers bedreigt geen wetenschappers. Niemand. Nooit. Maar dat Daszak deelnam aan een cover-up van #OriginOfCovid is zonneklaar. Een lab-lek is heel plausibel en dat weet hij.
    alleburgers.nl/2023/07/23/teke

  31. #ABCovid Daszak geïnterviewd door Maarten Keulemans over #OriginOfCovid: archive.vn/RvLqk
    MK presenteert het als een kritisch vraaggesprek, had Daszak beter niet mee kunnen schrijven aan Proximal Origin of niet deelnemen aan de WHO-missie naar Wuhan? Maar hij gelooft Daszak op zijn woord.
    AlleBurgers bedreigt geen wetenschappers. Niemand. Nooit. Maar dat Daszak deelnam aan een cover-up van #OriginOfCovid is zonneklaar. Een lab-lek is heel plausibel en dat weet hij.
    alleburgers.nl/2023/07/23/teke

  32. #ABCovid Daszak geïnterviewd door Maarten Keulemans over #OriginOfCovid: archive.vn/RvLqk
    MK presenteert het als een kritisch vraaggesprek, had Daszak beter niet mee kunnen schrijven aan Proximal Origin of niet deelnemen aan de WHO-missie naar Wuhan? Maar hij gelooft Daszak op zijn woord.
    AlleBurgers bedreigt geen wetenschappers. Niemand. Nooit. Maar dat Daszak deelnam aan een cover-up van #OriginOfCovid is zonneklaar. Een lab-lek is heel plausibel en dat weet hij.
    alleburgers.nl/2023/07/23/teke

  33. Dr. Baric appears to refer to this study in a YouTube presentation.

    youtube.com/watch?v=BE_H7dTqJX
    What We Know about the Coronavirus
    18:40
    an equally plausible mechanism for the outbreak is that Chinese living in rural
    18:47
    areas in farming communities in close proximity to bat hibernacula could have been infected with a bat and the data
    18:54
    that supports that is that many Chinese that do live near the bat hibernacula actually have
    ..."
    #OriginOfCovid #Virology #PublichHealth #SarsCoV2

  34. Dr. Baric appears to refer to this study in a YouTube presentation.

    youtube.com/watch?v=BE_H7dTqJX
    What We Know about the Coronavirus
    18:40
    an equally plausible mechanism for the outbreak is that Chinese living in rural
    18:47
    areas in farming communities in close proximity to bat hibernacula could have been infected with a bat and the data
    18:54
    that supports that is that many Chinese that do live near the bat hibernacula actually have
    ..."
    #OriginOfCovid #Virology #PublichHealth #SarsCoV2

  35. biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/20
    "... the direct ancestor of SARS-CoV-2 likely moved from an area in or around Yunnan province, to Hubei province, via the wild and farmed animal trade."
    # # #
    What's likely about this?  Were bats at the market?  Were farmed animals in contact with bats?  From the Washington Post article, it seems that the farmed animals were raised in Hubei.

    Isn't it likely that #SarsCoV2 was hammered out in some rural community?  Someone infected then went to Wuhan.

    #OriginOfCovid

  36. biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/20
    "... the direct ancestor of SARS-CoV-2 likely moved from an area in or around Yunnan province, to Hubei province, via the wild and farmed animal trade."
    # # #
    What's likely about this?  Were bats at the market?  Were farmed animals in contact with bats?  From the Washington Post article, it seems that the farmed animals were raised in Hubei.

    Isn't it likely that #SarsCoV2 was hammered out in some rural community?  Someone infected then went to Wuhan.

    #OriginOfCovid

  37. #SarsCoV2 showed up in Wuhan ready, willing and able to transmit to both people and mink. Was #COVID19 an old disease of fur farms -- something that arrived in a wet market, but didn't emerge there?

    The recent #h5n1 #AvianInfluenza easily infected mink, too. Was this #virus a reverse spillover from fur farms?

    #zoonosis #publichealth #OriginOfCovid

  38. #SarsCoV2 showed up in Wuhan ready, willing and able to transmit to both people and mink. Was #COVID19 an old disease of fur farms -- something that arrived in a wet market, but didn't emerge there?

    The recent #h5n1 #AvianInfluenza easily infected mink, too. Was this #virus a reverse spillover from fur farms?

    #zoonosis #publichealth #OriginOfCovid

  39. I see now scientists trying to frame that animal to human transmission of coronaviruses has never been witnessed. It happened at least once with a delta variant in Hong-Kong and imported hamsters. As well, it happened several times from deers to humans.
    I'm just citing a little of the scientific evidence.
    Again, some #OriginOfCovid groups are trying to make the earth flat. The obvious purpose of this mascarade is to make #ClimateChange and #Biodiversity loss an unrelated issue.
    Not to mention these scientists have never been able to determine the origin of any #SARSCoV2 variant once, with all the monitoring done.
    #OneHealth

  40. I see now scientists trying to frame that animal to human transmission of coronaviruses has never been witnessed. It happened at least once with a delta variant in Hong-Kong and imported hamsters. As well, it happened several times from deers to humans.
    I'm just citing a little of the scientific evidence.
    Again, some #OriginOfCovid groups are trying to make the earth flat. The obvious purpose of this mascarade is to make #ClimateChange and #Biodiversity loss an unrelated issue.
    Not to mention these scientists have never been able to determine the origin of any #SARSCoV2 variant once, with all the monitoring done.
    #OneHealth

  41. I see now scientists trying to frame that animal to human transmission of coronaviruses has never been witnessed. It happened at least once with a delta variant in Hong-Kong and imported hamsters. As well, it happened several times from deers to humans.
    I'm just citing a little of the scientific evidence.
    Again, some #OriginOfCovid groups are trying to make the earth flat. The obvious purpose of this mascarade is to make #ClimateChange and #Biodiversity loss an unrelated issue.
    Not to mention these scientists have never been able to determine the origin of any #SARSCoV2 variant once, with all the monitoring done.
    #OneHealth

  42. I see now scientists trying to frame that animal to human transmission of coronaviruses has never been witnessed. It happened at least once with a delta variant in Hong-Kong and imported hamsters. As well, it happened several times from deers to humans.
    I'm just citing a little of the scientific evidence.
    Again, some #OriginOfCovid groups are trying to make the earth flat. The obvious purpose of this mascarade is to make #ClimateChange and #Biodiversity loss an unrelated issue.
    Not to mention these scientists have never been able to determine the origin of any #SARSCoV2 variant once, with all the monitoring done.
    #OneHealth

  43. I see now scientists trying to frame that animal to human transmission of coronaviruses has never been witnessed. It happened at least once with a delta variant in Hong-Kong and imported hamsters. As well, it happened several times from deers to humans.
    I'm just citing a little of the scientific evidence.
    Again, some #OriginOfCovid groups are trying to make the earth flat. The obvious purpose of this mascarade is to make #ClimateChange and #Biodiversity loss an unrelated issue.
    Not to mention these scientists have never been able to determine the origin of any #SARSCoV2 variant once, with all the monitoring done.
    #OneHealth

  44. #Omicron came from a variant that was circulating six months before it appeared.
    #Pirola comes from a variant that was circulating one year ago.
    1. That means we would only know the #COVID #pandemic is over, after one year without worldwide circulation of #SARSCoV2
    2. Unless we find in wastewater a cryptic variant that looks like a "parent" of Pirola, the immunodepressed host being the origin of the evolution of new variants with so many new mutations is becoming again an hypothesis among others.
    3. If the wildlife hypothesis of an animal being the host of #coronavirus new variants evolution holds true, we can start to house move to Mars.
    #OriginOfCovid

  45. #Omicron came from a variant that was circulating six months before it appeared.
    #Pirola comes from a variant that was circulating one year ago.
    1. That means we would only know the #COVID #pandemic is over, after one year without worldwide circulation of #SARSCoV2
    2. Unless we find in wastewater a cryptic variant that looks like a "parent" of Pirola, the immunodepressed host being the origin of the evolution of new variants with so many new mutations is becoming again an hypothesis among others.
    3. If the wildlife hypothesis of an animal being the host of #coronavirus new variants evolution holds true, we can start to house move to Mars.
    #OriginOfCovid

  46. #Omicron came from a variant that was circulating six months before it appeared.
    #Pirola comes from a variant that was circulating one year ago.
    1. That means we would only know the #COVID #pandemic is over, after one year without worldwide circulation of #SARSCoV2
    2. Unless we find in wastewater a cryptic variant that looks like a "parent" of Pirola, the immunodepressed host being the origin of the evolution of new variants with so many new mutations is becoming again an hypothesis among others.
    3. If the wildlife hypothesis of an animal being the host of #coronavirus new variants evolution holds true, we can start to house move to Mars.
    #OriginOfCovid

  47. #Omicron came from a variant that was circulating six months before it appeared.
    #Pirola comes from a variant that was circulating one year ago.
    1. That means we would only know the #COVID #pandemic is over, after one year without worldwide circulation of #SARSCoV2
    2. Unless we find in wastewater a cryptic variant that looks like a "parent" of Pirola, the immunodepressed host being the origin of the evolution of new variants with so many new mutations is becoming again an hypothesis among others.
    3. If the wildlife hypothesis of an animal being the host of #coronavirus new variants evolution holds true, we can start to house move to Mars.
    #OriginOfCovid