#openappecosystem — Public Fediverse posts

Anyone keen to join a working group experimenting with a Hypermedia-Driven Architecture approach by applying it to an existing web app, Loomio, under the auspices of the Open App Ecosystem community?

https://www.loomio.com/d/VYPyO17M/building-interactive-websites-in-a-post-framework-web/3

@daz would you be willing to mentor such a group, given your excellent primer was my introduction to HDA?

https://hda.daz.is/architecture/

#HDA #OAE #OpenAppEcosystem #Loomio

Any Open App Ecosystem members who don't login to Loomio very often or allow it to send email notifications for new polls in the OAE group? I've started a sense check on the question of whether there's any interest in forming a subgroup to experiment with building a Hypermedia-Driven Architecture version of Loomio;

https://www.loomio.com/d/VYPyO17M/building-interactive-websites-in-a-post-framework-web/3

I'd love to know your honest opinions on this, whatever they might be.

#OAE #OpenAppEcosystem #Loomio

Just started a discussion about HDA (Hypermedia-driven Architecture) in the Open App Ecosystem group on Loomio;

https://www.loomio.com/d/VYPyO17M/building-interactive-websites-in-a-post-framework-web

The OAE group has often been a good place for long term, blue skies discussions about potential futures for ethical tech. Bringing together coding, hosting and UX perspectives. I think this has been useful, and it would be great to get more discussion happening there.

#HDA #OpenAppEcosystem

@olamina
> At CoLET (https://colet.space) we use Koumbit (worker owned) and are leveraging it to soon offer a solidarity economy SquareSpace alternative

Awesome work! Please feel free to join the Open App Ecosystem group on Loomio and compare notes with others working on similar projects:
https://www.loomio.org/g/exAKrBUp/open-app-ecosystem

It's been pretty quiet there through the pandemic, but I'm hoping the community will get a bit more active again over the coming months.

#OpenAppEcosystem

@stevenroose this is a project a lot of people in the #OpenAppEcosystem group would support, and are to some degree already working on:
https://www.loomio.org/g/exAKrBUp/open-app-ecosystem

One of the things I'd like to see produced from the #OpenAppEcosystem group is a comprehensive map of all the ethical tech organizations and projects, and how they relate to each other. Which orgs and mainly lobbyists vs. tech stewards? Which projects have similar goals, how are they different? What tech can and could inter-operate? This is kind of what I've been trying to do for the #fediverse, with the wiki that informs fediverse.party development. But mapping ethical tech in general is huge.

@z428 BTW this conversation is very valuable, but is getting too detailed to carry on here. Figuring out how to solve these sorts of problems it exactly what the #OpenAppEcosystem group on Loomio was set up for. Feel free to contribute some of these thoughts to appropriate threads, or start a new one.

@z428 @jcbrand come hang out with the #OpenAppEcosystem group. Folks from a bunch of different free code apps, hosted services, and tech coops gather around the watering hole there, talking about the nuts and bolts of how to solve the problems we have been talking about here (improving #UX, sustainable funding, tech choices etc):
https://www.loomio.org/g/exAKrBUp/open-app-ecosystem

@z428 if there's anything we can learn from the failures of XMPP, it's that federation protocols are an implementation detail that users, for the most part, do not and will never care about. So just making federated clones of the proprietary silos of the day is not good enough. Free code app developers need to be engaging directly with users, to find out what they want that the datafarms are *not* giving them. This is part of what I hope the #OpenAppEcosystem group can do
@charlag @lightone

Here's a video of the #OpenAppEcosystem session I tried to facilitate at #Open2018 in London a few months ago. Apologies for the patchy sound quality.
https://invidio.us/watch?v=WJR7IHeLADo

@bhaugen these are great questions. As a general response, I have always argued that the key to making the #OpenAppEcosystem work is to make maximum use of common protocols. This includes making use of and supporting free code apps that already use them. Also, helping other apps identify which protocols fit their use cases, and how to implement them.