#notallmen — Public Fediverse posts

"'Men Hate Women'?! Who are the Swedes to say that?!"
"Sir, it says, 'Men Who Hate Women'... not that all men hate women."
"Even worse! Why not just call it #NotAllMen?! ... Do we have to release it?"
"Projections say we'll miss out on millions of dollars if we don't."
"Fine. But change the title. ... She's kinda hot for a goth. What's her name?"
"Lisbeth Sal–"
"Too weird. But that tattoo is cool. ... Just call it 'Sexy Dragon Girl' or something."

@Furthering Where I'm noticing this acutely at the moment (vs noticing it in general across my life) is "conversations" with men where they are the only one who talks.

They don't ask me questions, they don't respond to what I say, they just go on and on as if I wasn't there.

#NotAllMen, and not my besties (I have great men in my life), but a whole lot of men and more now than I've ever noticed before. It's really bizarre.

Und nach "not all men" ist der nächste Dialog geschmückt mit Abwertung und Beleidigung.
Nicht alle Männer...
Aber immer ein Mann...

Einen frohen Donnerstag gewünscht :bc_derpy:

#notallmen
#hesays

@knowprose @Pepijn I am going to assume that you mean that you are disappointed with the many, many, many middle-aged Reply Guy men who regularly act like this towards other people (especially women), thus causing other people to recognise this behaviour as behaviour that, statistically speaking, is commonly witnessed in middle-aged men. I think #NotAllMen objections should be directed to the Many Men.

Conseil non sollicité aux #NotAllMen avant de répondre aux posts sur les VSS : formez-vous, lisez, allez parler à un'e psy... parce que là vous desservez votre cause* en fait.

* j'utilise cette expression à dessein.

Il semble qu'il y ait encore ici des #NotAllMen qui captent pas le principe du patriarcat, et qui veulent absolument expliquer que eux ils sont pas comme ça, c'est très grave de généraliser.

Pardon, mais on dirait les arguments des gens qui parlent de "racisme anti-Blancs" et bon, comment dire ?

@nohamux Oui, c'est notre responsabilité de le reconnaître, sans tomber dans un #notallmen

@dyfustic "Die Wahrscheinlichkeit, damit andere Hetero-Männer zu beeindrucken, ist 100% höher" ist wohl die einzige Aussage bei der die Erwiderung #NotAllMen angebracht ist...

Hier je faisais un atelier #sérigraphie pour lequel j'accueillais deux hommes blancs cis hétéro autour de 45 ans.
Le midi à table on a discuté des milieux militants, et de la place des féministes véner.
Ça fait 30 ans que je suis dans ce milieu #anar #squat #gauchiste #woke Et ben c'est dingue, ça fait 30 ans qu'on a les mêmes discussions, et que des gars comme ceux-ci (surtout le plus vieux des 2) ne comprennent rien 😱!
#NotAllMen
Le voilà donc m'expliquant que les féministes qui gueulent agressivement contre un mec blanc qui prend la parole dans le contexte, par exemple, du village de l'eau, nuisent à la cause et sont inefficaces.
#feminisme #patriarcat

@Melezioh Gonna try not to overstep in how I phrase anything, but from what I've seen - I agree. And I think it comes down, once again, to painting too many people with the same brush.

I've known trans men that were very active/vocal about supporting their trans sisters. I've known some that were allies but quieter about it, because they had their own shit going on. I've seen trans men that participated in transmisogynistic hate campaigns online - which is baffling to me, and not really something I've seen on Mastodon, but some other platforms, definitely.

Grouping all these categories into one and then saying "trans men, do better!" feels incoherent, unhelpful, and just plain mean. I know it kinda sounds like a #NotAllMen sort of position, but it's literally true. And the counterpoint to "not all men" is "but potentially any man and you don't know which," which is also true for trans men (they're men, after all) but IME trans men are far less likely to be chuds on average than cis guys.

RE: https://piaille.fr/@Esmeevss/117012655859599557

L'amie @EsmeeWeatherwax a fait son compte pour parler VSS et je t'invite à le suivre.

(et si t'es team #NotAllMen, tu la suis aussi, mais tu tournes tes doigts 7 fois avant de commenter)

Män­ner, die „not all men“ für eine sinn­vol­le, ja not­wen­di­ge Replik auf Schil­de­run­gen von Gewalt von Män­nern gegen Frau­en hal­ten, sind auf jeden Fall Teil des Pro­blems, denn wenn man ihre Posi­ti­on, dass man auf ihre leicht kränk­ba­re Psy­che in jeder For­mu­lie­rung, in jeden Pos­ting Rück­sicht neh­men muss, dann sind wir bei genau der Hal­tung, die so vie­le Män­ner als Begrün­dung ihrer Gewalt […]

@hopland Great post. It is one of the great disasters of our time - that we have seriously failed to address male violence and particularly sexual violence, towards women.

All men need to at least acknowledge this.

And the reply guys need to not turn up in Every. Single.Discussion about this and whine about other kinds of violence and sexual violence. (HINT: you can have your own thread about that and under no circumstances ever, is #NotAllMen an acceptable response)

Great to see this raised - and for us to acknowledge that men ARE the problem, that women are unsafe around men, and that we need to do a better job of educating ourselves and our boys - and refusing to accept the status quo.

At some level, this shouldn't be difficult and yet the problems seem intransigent while men refuse to accept the evidence.

@Damselfly I think we should normalize saying things like #NotAllMen or #NotAllWhitePeople or the like when people say good things about white people or men. Let them see how vapid that whole #NotAll... formulation is.

Hoy en invalidar egos señoros tenemos a este periodista. Porque #notallmen son gañanazos cobardes.

@SunDancer Jetzt mach hier nicht auf #NotAllMen 🧐😊

It's always "not all men" until it happens and suddenly she is being asked why she didn't use 23453 prevention measures just in case.

#notallmen #hypocrisy #yesallwomen #toomanymen

@pruef_bw @b_age @mina ist das „es gibt auf dieser Übergroßen #Instanz aber auch richtig gute Accounts“ das neue #NotAllMen ????

Problem schlicht nicht erkannt - Setzen, 6!

Mal für Alle zum mitschreiben: Ich beteilige mich GRUNDSÄTZLICH nicht an diesen unsäglichen #notallmen -Debatten. ABER: Ich lasse mich auch nicht pauschal in die Schublade von prügelnden und mordenden Sexualstraftätern stecken, weil ich nunmal ein Mann bin. Ist das soweit klar?

@Tami es gibt eine gute Folge von @funfacts zum Thema #NotAllMen
Habe gestern auch ein deprimierendes und glechzeitig mutmachendes Interview mit Ruth Moschner auf t-online gelesen: ihr Frauen müsst laut sein und wir windelfreien Männer ebenso!