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Hop ! Nouvelle sortie, nouveaux rapports #NeoStumbler.
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J'ai profité d'aller faire des petites courses en #VTT pour lancer #NeoStumbler au retour par la route (un peu moins de 9km, moins de 8km à l'allée en passant par les champs mais c'est bien boueux par endroits).
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Petite sortie en vélo, contribution sur #neostumbler et #openstreetmap, il y avait une incohérence sur un chemin privé non indiqué comme tel...
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Standort bestimmen ohne Apple und Google
Die Smartphones von Apple und Google haben einen Dienst eingebaut, der Deinen aktuellen Standort ermittelt. Wer auch hier unabhängig von Big-Tech werden möchte kann die freie BeaconDB nutzen und selbst dazu beitragen, dass sie immer besser wird.https://kaffeeringe.de/2025/12/31/standort-bestimmen-ohne-apple-und-google/
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Jetzt zu Weihnachten, wo man eh viel draußen ist, lohnt sich das richtig.
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#NeoStumbler: Kann mir jemand erklären, was die unterschiedlichen Punkte und der rosa Umkreis bedeutet? Der blaue Punkt müsste meine Position nach GPS sein.
#NeoStumbler: Can anyone tell me the meaning of the two dots and the light rose circle? The blue dot should be my gps-based location.
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Das stimmt. Das ist sehr motivierend. Schön finde ich auch die Statistiken in #Neostumbler, die zeigen, wie viele Wifis und Funkzellen man "entdeckt" hat.
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Die Standortdienste für #microG scheinen nicht so genau zu sein.
Ich nutze überwiegend #BeaconDB und habe in meiner Gegend über einen längeren Zeitraum schon viel mit #NeoStumbler dazu beigetragen, dass die Datenbank wächst. Leider hat das nicht wirklich eine Besserung gebracht.
Merken tue ich das daran, dass ich mit PhoneTrack meinen und den Standort meiner Frau protokolliere. Dort sind Geofence Zonen eingerichtet über deren Ein- und Austritt ich benachrichtigt werde. So merke ich, dass ich oder meine Frau angeblich unsere Zuhause verlassen haben, obwohl das nicht stimmt.
Ist jetzt kein gravierendes Problem, da Navigation usw alles wunderbar funktioniert, aber doch irgendwie blöd.
Das mit PhoneTracker habe ich nun so gelöst, dass von den Handys nur Standort-Daten geschickt werden, wenn die Genauigkeit mindestens 250m beträgt. Das führt dann nicht zu solchen Ausschlägen. -
RE: https://mementomori.social/@levi/115334697961474628
2. Streetcomplete and #Openstreetmaps
On the topic of #geolocation , there's another FOSS project that relies on community submissions to build a privacy preserving map
let's face it, Google Maps is the most solid, polished and convenient maps app out there, it offers detailed business listings, phone numbers, open hours, photos and reviews, Streetview (which OSM lacks), live traffic, routing algorithms with turn by turn navigation.. Etc.
But as it's the case with proprietary software, convenience comes at a cost, a cost that no one can afford, loss of privacy.
Most people fail to recognize how sensitive location data is, how it's used against them and how it can be abused in the future.
if I ask.. where were you on February 9, 2012, at 3 o'clock? you have no clue, you can't even remember what you had for dinner last night! me too :-) our brains can't recall events with time and location with such great precision, if you can.. you must be Charles Xavier from X-Men :-P
But you know who can remember? Google. the Ad company profiles individuals by tracking queries, routes, and interactions, it records your movements by a feature called location history which is turned on by default, even when you don't use the app, your movements are still logged, heck.. even if you turn off location history altogether, Google keeps on tracking you.. this should tell you how much valuable location data is for E-Corp, where you work or study, what you're planning to buy, where you go for entrainment.. etc. all used to create a profile so that the surveillance machine can target you with ads..
The brightside is that we don't have to use a surveillance tool like Google Maps, OrganicMaps is a free and open source software that respects your privacy, does not collect or transmit your location, search history, or usage data and it encourages you to use it offline by letting you know that you have to download maps for your area.
Organic Maps uses OpenStreeMaps which is also free software, but as I mentioned it's not as rich as Google Maps in terms of data. :-(
Which brings us to Streetcomplete, a FOSS android app designed to make contributing to OpenStreetMap easy. It's really like a real life game and I find it fun, It uses a simple question and answer interface to gather missing OpenStreeMaps details like: surface types of paths, opening hours of shops, speed limits.. etc
Submitted data will appear on OpenStreeMaps, so all users of apps like @organicmaps and @CoMaps can benefit from :-)
If you're interested in volunteering to help us make a #freedom map so we don't live our lives under the constant surveillance of #bigbrother Google, check out the following links:
- https://streetcomplete.app/
- https://www.openstreetmap.org
- https://organicmaps.app
- https://www.comaps.app/
#opensource #geolocation #linux #programming #coding #technology #geoip #software #gis #openstreetmap #tech #github #iot #data #security #opensourceprojects #geotagging #locationdata #mapdata #opendata #fdroid #neostumbler #location #surveillance #privacy #street #streetcomplete #google -
You can contribute to the #freesoftware movement even if you don't know how to write #code here's some practical examples:
1. @beacondb & #Neostumbler
BeaconDB is community-driven wireless geolocation database that serves as a replacement for Mozilla Location Services (MLS), which was discontinued in March 2024.
why is this project important?
because #Google collects extensive location data tied to user accounts for advertising and profiling (even if you turn off location history) Google doesn't understand consent, what a surprise! :blob_rollingeyes:
BeaconDB will provide privacy friendly geolocation, allowing #degoogled #android ROMs like #CalyxOS and #GrapheneOS to be used without relying on Google (Google's location services)
Neostumbler is an #opensource android app, that collects geolocation data from wireless signals such as Wi-Fi access points, cell towers, and Bluetooth beacons, NS does not collect personal identifying information, only anonymized wireless signal data and it can be turned off at any time. (can't say the same for Google)
you can start contributing to BeaconDB simply by downloading and installing NeoStumbler, enabling GPS, open NS and start a scan, start walking or driving, and after you cross a certain distance, you'll see some generated reports, press upload to upload them all (you can also go to settings and enable automatic uploading in the background)
If you want to volunteer and help us free our phones, laptops and smart watches from corporate ecosystems (like Google's location services) and achieve digital sovereignty in the aspect of geolocation, take a look at these links
- BeaconDB: https://beacondb.net/
- NeoStumbler: https://github.com/mjaakko/NeoStumbler#opensource #geolocation #linux #programming #coding #technology #geoip #software #gis #openstreetmap #tech #github #iot #data #security #opensourceprojects #geotagging #locationdata #mapdata #opendata #fdroid #beaconDB #neostumbler #location #surveillance #privacy #mozilla #firefox
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Help create a degoogled positioning service - no skills needed!
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this your irregular reminder that contributing to @beacondb can cost you literally nothing
1. Install NeoStumbler
2. Enable passive data collection
3. Enable automatic report sending over unmetered connections
3.1. (optional) Enable metadata stripping for more privacy
4. Forget about itNo battery drain, no manual action required
Just use your phone, NeoStumbler will care about contributing -
@JasnaPaka contributing to #BeaconDB nowadays feels like #OpenStreetMap in the early days, where one would fill the gaps bit by bit, trying to complete the bigger picture.
Would love to see a data collection service becoming a default option (opt-in) as a background service in one (or more) of the Android ROMs, @postmarketOS etc to increase the user-base far more, than just those that explicitly install and run #NeoStumbler etc
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Mittlerweile kann #NeoStumbler auch Daten passiv im Hintergrund sammeln.
Einfach aktivieren, GPS aktiv haben und z.B. #beaconDB mit Messwerten füttern 😀 -
J'ai envoyé 472 rapports avec #NeoStumbler, l'application #Android de collecte de données permettant d'utiliser les réseaux WiFi, bluetooth et antennes relais à proximité pour la #géolocalisation (plus rapide que #GPS / #Galileo) sans dépendre/alimenter #Google, disponible sur #Fdroid. #AltLocationServices, également sur F-droid, permet d'en profiter.
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Instead of linkedin and fb, phones should be preinstalled with #Neostumbler and #StreetComplete
I'd gladly hear suggestions for similar apps to make the neighbourhood slightly more friendly each day
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Users can submit data via compatible apps. I'm using NeoStumbler that I installed from Accrescent Store but you can also find it at F-Droid. #neostumbler
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/xyz.malkki.neostumbler.fdroid/
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В принципе, андроид умудряется прогрызаться сквозь заглушенный GPS
Хреново, ненадёжно, с огромной погрешностью, но проблески бывают
Так что может имеет смысл гулять по центру с #NeoStumbler, хоть у него и будет ужасающе низкий КПД...
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Here is a screenshot of a map between #Llandeilo and #Llandovery recording wifi and phone signal along the #tfw train line.
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If the data collection is more comprehensive, is the data it provides to #BeaconDB also richer in some way?
Should we be using it over #NeoStumbler?
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For that part look at the #beaconDB website:
Basically:
On Android, use: #neostumbler or #towercollector.For #MobileLinux you could try geoclue-stumbler: https://gitlab.com/kop316/geoclue-stumbler
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Hop hop hop, depuis que j'avais appris, dans la #GeoRDP de @geotribu (https://geotribu.fr/rdp/2024/rdp_2024-11-29/?h=beacon#beacondb-une-base-de-donnees-collaborative-pour-de-la-geolocalisation-cellulaire), la reprise du flambeau de Mozilla Location Services par @beacondb, j'ai de nouveau plaisir à contribuer avec l'application #Neostumbler (https://github.com/mjaakko/NeoStumbler).
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Traveling to #FOSDEM? Do not forget to collect antennas, and #wifi points for @beacondb!
Read here how to do that:
https://beacondb.net/And, let's make #Brussels the city with most #geolocation measurements the coming days.
#opensource #FOSS #neostumbler #TowerCollector #towers #beacons #networks #bluetooth
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Have you ever collected data for #OpenCellID #MozillaLocationService #WiGLE or #BeaconDB ?
Please retoot!
@[email protected] @[email protected]
@WiGLEnet
@BrodieOnLinux#opensource #opendata #openstreetmap #foss #networklocation #mls #microg #grapheneos #geoclue #towercollector #neostumbler
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To all #FOSS supporting people traveling these days: Please consider collecting wireless geolocation information for the #publicdomain #geolocation database #beaconDB.
Check the map via the link above to see how it is filling up with more and more points. Amazing and very interesting to see.
Also note the differences per continent.
#opensource #wifi #gsm #bluetooth #geodata #location #38C3 #FOSDEM #neostumbler #TowerCollector
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The @beacondb is an open location data collection, comparable to the now shut off #MozillaLocationService - and contributing is really easy by just running #NeoStumbler: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/xyz.malkki.neostumbler.fdroid/
It's really addicting to follow one's own contributions and see how the map is slowly filling up - hexagon by hexagon.
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Mozilla #MLS ist leider für immer offline.
#beaconDB ist ein Nachfolger, welcher z.B. mit #microG genutzt werden kann!
Das Projekt sucht gerade noch nach Datenspenden via #NeoStumbler oder #TowerCollector
Startet doch mal die App und geht eine Runde um den Block :)
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Wow. I just learned about #beacondb!
A public domain #wireless #geolocation #database.
➡️ ethically sourced
➡️ privacy friendly
➡️ abuse resistant#FOSS #opensource #MLS #Mozilla #Location #Service #alternative #publicdomain #MobileLinux #TowerCollector #geoclue #privacy #neostumbler