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"picture yourself as japanese, and just go with it" is, imho TERRIBLE advice for becoming an acceptable savage to japanese people. #mindpower fails again

"since we are all connected, how could it be otherwise?"

uh by the subconscious only operating on a locally in practice with effects dropping off by a square root law (gravity, electromagnetism, etc). That the connection is in a sense only limited to perceiving through our sense organs at roughly similar phenomena (light etc) and *not* immediate and full.

#mindpower

"when...you begin imprinting success upon your ubconscious mind, it sets up a continuous vibration of this energy that resonates upon the whole {{the whole what??}}
...The subconscious works day and night with this success vibration {{how??}} attracting you the people and circumstances necessary for your your success"

No, no it doesn't. It definitely does not do this. Your subconscious does many things, this isn't one of them. #mindpower

"you will reap what you sow. This is a law"
#mindpower 's first 'law' is... a restatement of the #justworldfallacy

#mindpower chapter 4: count your chickens before they hatch, and feel how awesome it is when they hatch...before they hatch.

What a load of dangerous buffoonery.

On websites that link to things like
https://www.llewellyn.com/encyclopedia/article/244 (and a lot newer ones that link to ones that link to it)...there's this tale of a psychologist Alan Richardson who conducted a study with basketball players. I think I've even heard of it: you have a control group of players do do nothing, you have a group that practices, and a group that imagines themselves practicing. The legend (and since no one cited their sources beyond mentioning his name, that's effectively what it was) was that the 'imaginers' had just as much, or almost as much success as the 'practicers'.

This turns out to be a real set of studies. And unlike in 2013, where this was locked behind a paywall where even people who were interested in knowing what was in it couldn't access it........scihub gives us access now.
https://sci-hub.tw/…/doi/abs/10.1080/10671188.1967.10613388…
https://sci-hub.tw/…/www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10…

1) A huge risk of p hacking . p < 0.05.
2) Low sample size. N=literally dozens
3) replicated with diminishing, but positive results. The sort of thing you'd expect to see when someone got lucky with a high p value and then tried to replicated it, and found *something* there
4) the papers above discuss the outcome in terms of
* symbolic activity versus motor activity - ie sitting and thinking of chess is different from sitting and thinking of moving your hands and getting a ball in a bucket. Which in turn is different than a complex social problem like 'becoming president of the US'. Generally there's tasks that require thinking about, and having a clear idea of what constitutes a win condition (similar to A* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A*_search_algorithm ) can get you there quicker
* possible ways that imagined practice could impact the structure of your brain, and the information that is most at hand
things like that
what it does *definitely not* say is

"situations and opportunities will come your way" if you focus on visualizing your goal alone, that is not something you can "count on", at least based on the particular

Now granted - the above two scihub links are only discussion links of a third paper, which isn't online

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14143283

That might be an interesting read. But even so, the data seems to support exactly what athletes tend to want - a quick way out of working hard at practicing and meditation to still the mind. And one thing that is always available is our desires. It would be *so convenient* if visualizing our desires were enough to obtain them, but it seems like this is not in the cards unless your desires fall into a certain category of things.

eg #mindpower extrapolates incomplete, and inacessible science without a real hard link to its source, and surprise surprise, it took the data beyond what it actually was valid for