#memrise — Public Fediverse posts

@lufthans I recently started using #Mondly, which seems pretty good so far. I've also tried #Ling and #Memrise in the past year.

@lufthans I recently started using #Mondly, which seems pretty good so far. I've also tried #Ling and #Memrise in the past year.

Rozhodl jsem se tedy, že si stáhnu #duolingo načež jsem si uvědomil, že je to americká značka a že bych možná měl vyzkoušet evropské nejdříve.
Již jsem vyzkoušel německý #babbel který neumožnuje zdarma lekce, takže nic. Nyní si hraju s britským #memrise
To už vypadá lepší

Rozhodl jsem se tedy, že si stáhnu #duolingo načež jsem si uvědomil, že je to americká značka a že bych možná měl vyzkoušet evropské nejdříve.
Již jsem vyzkoušel německý #babbel který neumožnuje zdarma lekce, takže nic. Nyní si hraju s britským #memrise
To už vypadá lepší

#语言学习 推荐 #ADHD 搞两台设备刷app学习。

有些app有时间限制，比如drops免费用户每天能学5分钟，争分夺秒多学一两个词会让ADHDer高度集中注意力，不容易觉得无聊：https://m.cmx.im/@xunhuan2046/110245641251810884

别的app在等待新题/新单词的时候容易感到无聊。众所周知ADHD一无聊就痛苦，而逼自己沉浸在痛苦的学习中极不利于学语言。

往期回顾之情感过滤假说：https://m.cmx.im/@xunhuan2046/110621683412589916

所以作为易感知无聊的ADHD人士，可以：

1.手机和电脑同时打开不同的app/网页进行学习
2.搞一台备用手机下一堆语言学习app，和主力手机同时打开不同的app进行学习
3.搞一台单词机，在刷手机app的同时刷单词机的单词和例句
4.在刷app的同时看书/课本

之前我两部手机同时刷感觉爽得飞起，后来一部屏幕坏了还没修，最近闲下来继续学语言但觉得过程逐渐变得无聊，每次过程中需要等待的0.01秒（比如提交完答案的瞬间）都变得难以忍受，这才发现是因为我没法「两部手机同时刷」……于是拿出了久违的单词机，舒服了。

我的价值观是「免费的就是最好的」，所以几乎不会花钱买app试用，都是免费部分用了觉得特别好才一次性购买终身版。（这么多年来也只买了Memrise和Drops。）但真的推荐各位在狂学语言的ADHDer有条件的搞两部设备同时刷。

很多老旧型号的手机都可以300以下收一台备用，便宜并且性能不影响刷app学习。（如果有身份分隔的需求也可以通过备用机实现，或者本来就有备用机那就更好了。）不带发音的单词机百元以内可以收到，带发音的稍贵一些。不过单词机对小语种不是太友善，很多只有英语发音，但如果你学的是英语或者发音简单无需音标的欧洲语言，就不用太担心了。

至于刷什么app，市面上的app层出不穷，可以多下几个轮流刷。我在学西语，刷（过）的有 #InfiniteSpanish #Drops #Memrise #Busuu #SpanishDict #Clozemaster #Lingualia

语言学习app对比：Drops/Memrise/Duolingo
https://xunhuan2046.bearblog.dev/appdropsmemriseduolingo/

更多内容从博客目录里扒拉吧。

不在狂学/不想花钱的可以试试分心学习法：https://m.cmx.im/@xunhuan2046/110772575477833175

#学习小技巧

#语言学习 推荐 #ADHD 搞两台设备刷app学习。

有些app有时间限制，比如drops免费用户每天能学5分钟，争分夺秒多学一两个词会让ADHDer高度集中注意力，不容易觉得无聊：https://m.cmx.im/@xunhuan2046/110245641251810884

别的app在等待新题/新单词的时候容易感到无聊。众所周知ADHD一无聊就痛苦，而逼自己沉浸在痛苦的学习中极不利于学语言。

往期回顾之情感过滤假说：https://m.cmx.im/@xunhuan2046/110621683412589916

所以作为易感知无聊的ADHD人士，可以：

1.手机和电脑同时打开不同的app/网页进行学习
2.搞一台备用手机下一堆语言学习app，和主力手机同时打开不同的app进行学习
3.搞一台单词机，在刷手机app的同时刷单词机的单词和例句
4.在刷app的同时看书/课本

之前我两部手机同时刷感觉爽得飞起，后来一部屏幕坏了还没修，最近闲下来继续学语言但觉得过程逐渐变得无聊，每次过程中需要等待的0.01秒（比如提交完答案的瞬间）都变得难以忍受，这才发现是因为我没法「两部手机同时刷」……于是拿出了久违的单词机，舒服了。

我的价值观是「免费的就是最好的」，所以几乎不会花钱买app试用，都是免费部分用了觉得特别好才一次性购买终身版。（这么多年来也只买了Memrise和Drops。）但真的推荐各位在狂学语言的ADHDer有条件的搞两部设备同时刷。

很多老旧型号的手机都可以300以下收一台备用，便宜并且性能不影响刷app学习。（如果有身份分隔的需求也可以通过备用机实现，或者本来就有备用机那就更好了。）不带发音的单词机百元以内可以收到，带发音的稍贵一些。不过单词机对小语种不是太友善，很多只有英语发音，但如果你学的是英语或者发音简单无需音标的欧洲语言，就不用太担心了。

至于刷什么app，市面上的app层出不穷，可以多下几个轮流刷。我在学西语，刷（过）的有 #InfiniteSpanish #Drops #Memrise #Busuu #SpanishDict #Clozemaster #Lingualia

语言学习app对比：Drops/Memrise/Duolingo
https://xunhuan2046.bearblog.dev/appdropsmemriseduolingo/

更多内容从博客目录里扒拉吧。

不在狂学/不想花钱的可以试试分心学习法：https://m.cmx.im/@xunhuan2046/110772575477833175

#学习小技巧

Really weird phrases for "common phrases 2" in Memrise.

#memrise #languages

Really weird phrases for "common phrases 2" in Memrise.

#memrise #languages

#语言学习 #长毛象安利大会
#memrise #忆术家 这个app好用到很难写安利。看了一下我在2016年5月注册，2017年6月就买了终身会员，美美用到现在了。

之前app付费才能用，现在不清楚。电脑网页版可以免费用，免费用户的使用体验和付费会员肯定不一样但具体哪不一样我也不清楚了毕竟终身会员真香。

memrise和其它语言学习类app相比最大的优势就是「实用」：从词汇到例句，从场景到视频，全方位实用。

举例：
LGBTQ+专题会教你怎么说非二元性别/同性恋双性恋异性恋/性别流动/跨性别/间性/平等/自由/权利/骄傲/歧视/出柜/公开等词汇，虽然也不是很全（比如没有无性恋半性恋泛性恋）但是也很感人了。

别的专题还有诸多实用词句，如：
糟透了/棒极了
让我静静
我讨厌洗衣服
他想一个人待着
犯规/罚下场（球赛）
眨眼间
木已成舟
天涯何处无芳草
……

还有成吨的实用词句不一一列举了，感兴趣自己去电脑网页版看吧。我懒得每个专题点进去找句子了。

总之memrise里有一堆我在别的地方学不到/想学但不知道哪里有的东西，帮大忙了。毕竟社恐人总不能天天抓local朋友聊天学新词吧。

- - -

同类app对比：

- 旧版多邻国
学了屌用没有，就是个装饰。例句常出现“水是粉红色的”这种毫无意义的东西。

- 新版多邻国
学了终于能用上了，但内容和别的app/教材相比同质化严重，没什么优势。

- 忆术家
和生活息息相关，十分口语化，学了就能直接用。传统教材里不会出现但生活中会用到的东西它都有。

- - -

图1 部分专题和tag
图2 部分实用词句
图3 部分LGBTQ+相关情景
图4 部分LGBTQ+相关词汇

#语言学习 #长毛象安利大会
#memrise #忆术家 这个app好用到很难写安利。看了一下我在2016年5月注册，2017年6月就买了终身会员，美美用到现在了。

之前app付费才能用，现在不清楚。电脑网页版可以免费用，免费用户的使用体验和付费会员肯定不一样但具体哪不一样我也不清楚了毕竟终身会员真香。

memrise和其它语言学习类app相比最大的优势就是「实用」：从词汇到例句，从场景到视频，全方位实用。

举例：
LGBTQ+专题会教你怎么说非二元性别/同性恋双性恋异性恋/性别流动/跨性别/间性/平等/自由/权利/骄傲/歧视/出柜/公开等词汇，虽然也不是很全（比如没有无性恋半性恋泛性恋）但是也很感人了。

别的专题还有诸多实用词句，如：
糟透了/棒极了
让我静静
我讨厌洗衣服
他想一个人待着
犯规/罚下场（球赛）
眨眼间
木已成舟
天涯何处无芳草
……

还有成吨的实用词句不一一列举了，感兴趣自己去电脑网页版看吧。我懒得每个专题点进去找句子了。

总之memrise里有一堆我在别的地方学不到/想学但不知道哪里有的东西，帮大忙了。毕竟社恐人总不能天天抓local朋友聊天学新词吧。

- - -

同类app对比：

- 旧版多邻国
学了屌用没有，就是个装饰。例句常出现“水是粉红色的”这种毫无意义的东西。

- 新版多邻国
学了终于能用上了，但内容和别的app/教材相比同质化严重，没什么优势。

- 忆术家
和生活息息相关，十分口语化，学了就能直接用。传统教材里不会出现但生活中会用到的东西它都有。

- - -

图1 部分专题和tag
图2 部分实用词句
图3 部分LGBTQ+相关情景
图4 部分LGBTQ+相关词汇

Okay, I still have a long way to go to get in the top 50, but 1,477,447 is a cool number of points. #MemRise #languagelearning (You get about 1,000-2,500 points per lesson of about 5-10 words/phrases.)

Kurs wykorzystujący glosariusz na platformie #Memrise w wersji polsko-angielskiej:
https://community-courses.memrise.com/community/course/1378509/english-for-maths-audio/

Of all the Hebrew words I've learned, I think פשוט is really simple. #Hebrew #languagelearning #memrise

So, enshittification has now hit #Memrise.

If it comes for Babbel too, I'm going to have to find a non-app way of learning #Danish.

So, enshittification has now hit #Memrise.

If it comes for Babbel too, I'm going to have to find a non-app way of learning #Danish.

People Are Watching Netflix to Learn a Foreign Language
#IndieWire #Analysis #News #Film #Memrise #Netflix #SquidGame #TV

https://www.indiewire.com/news/analysis/watching-netflix-to-learn-foreign-language-1234950555/

People Are Watching Netflix to Learn a Foreign Language
#IndieWire #Analysis #News #Film #Memrise #Netflix #SquidGame #TV

https://www.indiewire.com/news/analysis/watching-netflix-to-learn-foreign-language-1234950555/

What an update. 😎 #Memrise

What an update. 😎 #Memrise

For the past 60 days, I have been intensively studying the Italian language. I want to learn Italian in order to better serve our ASL Opera project since 50% of the most popular operas were written in Italian (25% were written in German, and 15% were written in French). I understand modern Italian isn’t the same as “original opera Italian” — but learning something new only helps deepen the appreciation of the comprehension of the context of the original aesthetic. In this article, I will share with you some of the treasures, and techniques, I have been using to apply a greater understanding to my Italian learning.

Learning a new language can be a challenge. When I first met my beloved Janna more than 35 years ago, one condition of our dating was that I learn her language — American Sign Language. Since that time, Janna — who happens to be Deaf — and I have written ASL books, performed together, and taught ASL together many times!

As ASL teachers, Janna and I believe in total immersion, and we also believe that in our real lives and in our classrooms. No English! No PSE! Just use pure ASL. You’ll learn, and sustain, a language better and faster that way.

I have done my best to apply that immersion thinking to my Italian learning. Complete and total immersion whenever possible. Some believe adults have a harder time learning a new language than a child, but I disagree. Adults know how to make associations with existing grammar, and syntax, and that gives adults the power of leveling up faster than our infant contemporary language learners!

Here is my Italian learning plan. When I’m not directly studying in my Apps, I am using the following methods to provide immersion as often as possible.

1. 1. TV. Comcast offers two Italian channels for an extra monthly fee. They also offer other foreign language channels like German and French!
   2. Radio App — talk and music. The iPhone store is filled with Italian streaming Apps. You can also stream directly from the internet.
   3. iPhone Language. I changed the language on my iPhone and iPad from English to Italian. Sure, it’s a little scary, but I have Janna’s English iPhone to help me out if I get stuck. I also changed the time to a 24-hour clock.
   4. Keyboard language on phones and computers. I use an Italian keyboard whenever I can. That’s my new default. Force it to learn it!
   5. Apple Watch. I changed the language on my Apple Watch to Italian. Force it to learn it!
   6. Podcasts. Listening to podcasts can also really help you learn Italian fast.
   7. Music. Singing along is a great, modern, way to learn a musical language to a beat. Melody sharing makes the learning less traditional, and more exciting!
   8. TV shows. YouTube has a lot of Italian learning shows. They are helpful! Episodic television is also a wonderful way to add familiar context to the Italian overdubbing.
   9. Movies. Netflix has Italian content with English captions.
   10. CiborTV. This is a box you buy, like an Apple TV, that provides subscription content for Italian television channels. CiborTV is my greatest secret weapon for ongoing daily passive immersion.

One of the biggest blockades to learning Italian is the four years I spent learning Spanish 45 years ago. When I “think” in my target language of Italian, the dark memory of the Spanish word first creeps to mind. I never became fluent in Spanish! I regret not studying harder all those years ago. Senorita Byrd: “I apologize for not being a more apt student!”

For my Italian study, I subscribe to several Italian language newspapers, but my main weapon in learning is my Apps. Here is a review — on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the best — of the Italian language learning Apps I use every day. I study a minimum of 90 minutes a day using these Apps. I have, probably 25 Apps in total, but these particular Apps provide a lifetime subscription: Buy once, learn forever! That, to me, is important in learning a new language, because you will always, for your lifetime, be working on learning the language. Apps that charge only a monthly, or a yearly fee, are not included in this review.

Babbel (3/10)
Babbel does a lot of television advertising. Their learning quit on me when a lesson I was studying stopped working. The problem was repeatable. I reported to Babbel the trouble I was having, along with steps to reproduce the bug, and screenshots — you can’t move on until you finish a lesson, and I was forever stuck on a blank screen for Lesson 7 — and Babbel support brushed me off! They told me to restart my browser. I stopped right there and gave up on Babbel. That is the danger of paying once with access forever. If you can’t access the lessons, there is no forever — and the company, after being paid, has zero incentive to keep you actively learning! There are also no study guides you can print out for each lesson to help you memorize the work. The problem was 100% confirmed on the Babbel side, and they did not care. 

LingoDeer (5/10)
LingoDeer sells itself as an Asian language learning App, but they do offer a few other languages, like Italian. So far, their strict learning style is often effective. Their printable notes are comprehensive and helpful. The teaching style is raw, though. I call LingoDeer the “meaner sister of Duolingo.” The early lessons were super difficult and unforgiving, now the later lessons are a little more relaxed and fun to “play.”

Rosetta Stone (4/10)
Rosetta Stone is the old dude in the room and uses a visual learning approach. There are no printable lessons. You look at images and divine vocabulary and grammar all on your own. Alone, Rosetta Stone would not be a great way to learn a language, but adding it to the ganglia of other learning tools I have employed, it’s a definite winner in making one “think different” in real time. Their spoken language recognition engine is pitiful. It does not work. I have, unfortunately, turned off its voice feature after week 6.

Lingopie (8/10)
Lingopie is super interesting and immersive. They provide videos with both English and Italian captions. You can turn off the captions if you don’t want to see them. If you don’t know a word, you click on it, and that word gets defined for you and added to your Pop Quiz queue. There’s also a Netflix browser plugin that will “Lingopie” Italian content on Netflix that will help you learn even faster. Lingopie will only get better with time!

Clozemaster (10/10)
Clozemaster is my favorite learning tool — it thinks, and processes information, just as I do — and that’s a rare thing to find in the real world! Designed like a retro-style 80s video game, Clozemaster helps you quickly close in on your target language goals. ChatGPT-4 explains the idea behind “cloze” learning:

A “cloze” test is used in language learning and pedagogy to assess an individual’s comprehension, vocabulary, and grammar skills. It is a valuable tool for both educators and students in various language learning contexts.

In a cloze test, certain words or phrases within a text are systematically removed and replaced with blanks. The learner is then asked to fill in the blanks with appropriate words or phrases to complete the sentences. The omitted words are usually chosen based on specific criteria, such as every nth word or specific grammatical structures.

Here’s how the cloze method is applied in language learning:

1. **Assessment of Vocabulary and Grammar**: By strategically removing certain words or phrases, teachers can assess a student’s grasp of vocabulary and grammatical structures. For example, removing verbs can test understanding of verb tenses.

2. **Reading Comprehension**: Cloze tests can be tailored to evaluate a student’s ability to understand context and meaning within a text. By choosing which words to omit, a teacher can measure specific reading comprehension skills.

3. **Promoting Contextual Learning**: Unlike isolated word lists, cloze tests promote learning words and structures in context, allowing students to understand how they are used in real communication.

4. **Differentiated Instruction**: Teachers can modify the difficulty of a cloze test based on the needs and abilities of individual students, making it a flexible tool for different learning levels.

5. **Integration into Various Language Skills**: Cloze tests can be integrated into reading, listening, writing, and speaking exercises, making them a multifaceted tool for comprehensive language learning.

6. **Feedback and Reflection**: The immediate feedback provided by cloze tests helps students recognize their mistakes and reflect on their understanding, thus fostering continuous improvement.

In summary, cloze tests provide a practical, adaptable, and effective way to evaluate and enhance various aspects of language learning. They promote contextual learning and provide a multi-dimensional approach that can be tailored to individual student needs.

For a scholarly insight into the subject, you may refer to the book “Cloze Procedure: An Alternative Approach to Reading in Foreign Language Training” by J.H. Robinson (1980), which provides an in-depth analysis of the application of cloze in foreign language training.

Drops (9/10)
Drops was a magnificent surprise. Drops focuses on helping you learn Italian vocabulary in just 5 minutes a day. You can study for a longer period of time if you pay. Drops is fun to use, beautiful to look at, and a wonder at teaching. It’s just fun! I start my day with Drops to give myself a boost of confidence, and joy, before the harder work of learning begins.

Memrise (6/10)
Memrise is a strange beast. I’m not completely certain I understand what it is or what the goals are of the App. You sometimes get video clips of phrases — some are just silly, and I skip them — which you then get tested on in multiple choice boxes. They also provide a strange “video” conversation with people talking to themselves — like a TikTok story — that I find more annoying than engaging. Memrise does have a ChatGPT-3 dialogue interaction that can be fun, but even that feels just a little old and limited.

edX (1/10)
I was super excited to take the Italian lessons on edX, but the teaching is really old — the expert Italian language folks on Reddit told me many of the words being taught on edX were no longer colloquial, and they urged me to dump the lessons, and I did. The learning interface feels like a 1990s website project gone wrong. There was so much unlimited promise here that just failed to deliver.

Anki (3/10)
People either seem to love Anki flashcards or they hate them. I’m sort of in the middle. I get how Anki can be helpful for repetition in learning, but the interface is super ugly, and many of the “study decks” for download don’t appear to be well-formatted. The idea is right, but the execution feels stilted and raw.

That’s my review of my “lifelong learning Italian Apps” with a lifetime subscription. I look forward to learning Italian. My goal is to be at least B2 certified and I’m currently a rising A1. Yes, I have a long way to go, but that’s okay. Good things take time, and fluency demands dedication. I know I have at least one of both right now.

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#anki #asl #asl-opera #babbel #chatgpt #cloze #clozemaster #drops #e4e4e4 #edx #fluency #immersion #italian #lingodeer #lingopie #memrise #opera #opera-project #rosetta-stone

https://bolesblogs.com/2023/08/14/learning-italian-lifetime-immersion-style/

For the past 60 days, I have been intensively studying the Italian language. I want to learn Italian in order to better serve our ASL Opera project since 50% of the most popular operas were written in Italian (25% were written in German, and 15% were written in French). I understand modern Italian isn’t the same as “original opera Italian” — but learning something new only helps deepen the appreciation of the comprehension of the context of the original aesthetic. In this article, I will share with you some of the treasures, and techniques, I have been using to apply a greater understanding to my Italian learning.

Learning a new language can be a challenge. When I first met my beloved Janna more than 35 years ago, one condition of our dating was that I learn her language — American Sign Language. Since that time, Janna — who happens to be Deaf — and I have written ASL books, performed together, and taught ASL together many times!

As ASL teachers, Janna and I believe in total immersion, and we also believe that in our real lives and in our classrooms. No English! No PSE! Just use pure ASL. You’ll learn, and sustain, a language better and faster that way.

I have done my best to apply that immersion thinking to my Italian learning. Complete and total immersion whenever possible. Some believe adults have a harder time learning a new language than a child, but I disagree. Adults know how to make associations with existing grammar, and syntax, and that gives adults the power of leveling up faster than our infant contemporary language learners!

Here is my Italian learning plan. When I’m not directly studying in my Apps, I am using the following methods to provide immersion as often as possible.

1. 1. TV. Comcast offers two Italian channels for an extra monthly fee. They also offer other foreign language channels like German and French!
   2. Radio App — talk and music. The iPhone store is filled with Italian streaming Apps. You can also stream directly from the internet.
   3. iPhone Language. I changed the language on my iPhone and iPad from English to Italian. Sure, it’s a little scary, but I have Janna’s English iPhone to help me out if I get stuck. I also changed the time to a 24-hour clock.
   4. Keyboard language on phones and computers. I use an Italian keyboard whenever I can. That’s my new default. Force it to learn it!
   5. Apple Watch. I changed the language on my Apple Watch to Italian. Force it to learn it!
   6. Podcasts. Listening to podcasts can also really help you learn Italian fast.
   7. Music. Singing along is a great, modern, way to learn a musical language to a beat. Melody sharing makes the learning less traditional, and more exciting!
   8. TV shows. YouTube has a lot of Italian learning shows. They are helpful! Episodic television is also a wonderful way to add familiar context to the Italian overdubbing.
   9. Movies. Netflix has Italian content with English captions.
   10. CiborTV. This is a box you buy, like an Apple TV, that provides subscription content for Italian television channels. CiborTV is my greatest secret weapon for ongoing daily passive immersion.

One of the biggest blockades to learning Italian is the four years I spent learning Spanish 45 years ago. When I “think” in my target language of Italian, the dark memory of the Spanish word first creeps to mind. I never became fluent in Spanish! I regret not studying harder all those years ago. Senorita Byrd: “I apologize for not being a more apt student!”

For my Italian study, I subscribe to several Italian language newspapers, but my main weapon in learning is my Apps. Here is a review — on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the best — of the Italian language learning Apps I use every day. I study a minimum of 90 minutes a day using these Apps. I have, probably 25 Apps in total, but these particular Apps provide a lifetime subscription: Buy once, learn forever! That, to me, is important in learning a new language, because you will always, for your lifetime, be working on learning the language. Apps that charge only a monthly, or a yearly fee, are not included in this review.

Babbel (3/10)
Babbel does a lot of television advertising. Their learning quit on me when a lesson I was studying stopped working. The problem was repeatable. I reported to Babbel the trouble I was having, along with steps to reproduce the bug, and screenshots — you can’t move on until you finish a lesson, and I was forever stuck on a blank screen for Lesson 7 — and Babbel support brushed me off! They told me to restart my browser. I stopped right there and gave up on Babbel. That is the danger of paying once with access forever. If you can’t access the lessons, there is no forever — and the company, after being paid, has zero incentive to keep you actively learning! There are also no study guides you can print out for each lesson to help you memorize the work. The problem was 100% confirmed on the Babbel side, and they did not care. 

LingoDeer (5/10)
LingoDeer sells itself as an Asian language learning App, but they do offer a few other languages, like Italian. So far, their strict learning style is often effective. Their printable notes are comprehensive and helpful. The teaching style is raw, though. I call LingoDeer the “meaner sister of Duolingo.” The early lessons were super difficult and unforgiving, now the later lessons are a little more relaxed and fun to “play.”

Rosetta Stone (4/10)
Rosetta Stone is the old dude in the room and uses a visual learning approach. There are no printable lessons. You look at images and divine vocabulary and grammar all on your own. Alone, Rosetta Stone would not be a great way to learn a language, but adding it to the ganglia of other learning tools I have employed, it’s a definite winner in making one “think different” in real time. Their spoken language recognition engine is pitiful. It does not work. I have, unfortunately, turned off its voice feature after week 6.

Lingopie (8/10)
Lingopie is super interesting and immersive. They provide videos with both English and Italian captions. You can turn off the captions if you don’t want to see them. If you don’t know a word, you click on it, and that word gets defined for you and added to your Pop Quiz queue. There’s also a Netflix browser plugin that will “Lingopie” Italian content on Netflix that will help you learn even faster. Lingopie will only get better with time!

Clozemaster (10/10)
Clozemaster is my favorite learning tool — it thinks, and processes information, just as I do — and that’s a rare thing to find in the real world! Designed like a retro-style 80s video game, Clozemaster helps you quickly close in on your target language goals. ChatGPT-4 explains the idea behind “cloze” learning:

A “cloze” test is used in language learning and pedagogy to assess an individual’s comprehension, vocabulary, and grammar skills. It is a valuable tool for both educators and students in various language learning contexts.

In a cloze test, certain words or phrases within a text are systematically removed and replaced with blanks. The learner is then asked to fill in the blanks with appropriate words or phrases to complete the sentences. The omitted words are usually chosen based on specific criteria, such as every nth word or specific grammatical structures.

Here’s how the cloze method is applied in language learning:

1. **Assessment of Vocabulary and Grammar**: By strategically removing certain words or phrases, teachers can assess a student’s grasp of vocabulary and grammatical structures. For example, removing verbs can test understanding of verb tenses.

2. **Reading Comprehension**: Cloze tests can be tailored to evaluate a student’s ability to understand context and meaning within a text. By choosing which words to omit, a teacher can measure specific reading comprehension skills.

3. **Promoting Contextual Learning**: Unlike isolated word lists, cloze tests promote learning words and structures in context, allowing students to understand how they are used in real communication.

4. **Differentiated Instruction**: Teachers can modify the difficulty of a cloze test based on the needs and abilities of individual students, making it a flexible tool for different learning levels.

5. **Integration into Various Language Skills**: Cloze tests can be integrated into reading, listening, writing, and speaking exercises, making them a multifaceted tool for comprehensive language learning.

6. **Feedback and Reflection**: The immediate feedback provided by cloze tests helps students recognize their mistakes and reflect on their understanding, thus fostering continuous improvement.

In summary, cloze tests provide a practical, adaptable, and effective way to evaluate and enhance various aspects of language learning. They promote contextual learning and provide a multi-dimensional approach that can be tailored to individual student needs.

For a scholarly insight into the subject, you may refer to the book “Cloze Procedure: An Alternative Approach to Reading in Foreign Language Training” by J.H. Robinson (1980), which provides an in-depth analysis of the application of cloze in foreign language training.

Drops (9/10)
Drops was a magnificent surprise. Drops focuses on helping you learn Italian vocabulary in just 5 minutes a day. You can study for a longer period of time if you pay. Drops is fun to use, beautiful to look at, and a wonder at teaching. It’s just fun! I start my day with Drops to give myself a boost of confidence, and joy, before the harder work of learning begins.

Memrise (6/10)
Memrise is a strange beast. I’m not completely certain I understand what it is or what the goals are of the App. You sometimes get video clips of phrases — some are just silly, and I skip them — which you then get tested on in multiple choice boxes. They also provide a strange “video” conversation with people talking to themselves — like a TikTok story — that I find more annoying than engaging. Memrise does have a ChatGPT-3 dialogue interaction that can be fun, but even that feels just a little old and limited.

edX (1/10)
I was super excited to take the Italian lessons on edX, but the teaching is really old — the expert Italian language folks on Reddit told me many of the words being taught on edX were no longer colloquial, and they urged me to dump the lessons, and I did. The learning interface feels like a 1990s website project gone wrong. There was so much unlimited promise here that just failed to deliver.

Anki (3/10)
People either seem to love Anki flashcards or they hate them. I’m sort of in the middle. I get how Anki can be helpful for repetition in learning, but the interface is super ugly, and many of the “study decks” for download don’t appear to be well-formatted. The idea is right, but the execution feels stilted and raw.

That’s my review of my “lifelong learning Italian Apps” with a lifetime subscription. I look forward to learning Italian. My goal is to be at least B2 certified and I’m currently a rising A1. Yes, I have a long way to go, but that’s okay. Good things take time, and fluency demands dedication. I know I have at least one of both right now.

https://bolesblogs.com/2023/08/14/learning-italian-lifetime-immersion-style/

#anki #asl #aslOpera #babbel #chatgpt #cloze #clozemaster #drops #e4e4e4 #edx #fluency #immersion #italian #lingodeer #lingopie #memrise #opera #operaProject #rosettaStone

@[email protected] öhm ja, die leidet gerade etwas weil ich gerade Interlingua mittels der #Memrise App übe 😉🤷🏽‍♂️🙈

@[email protected] öhm ja, die leidet gerade etwas weil ich gerade Interlingua mittels der #Memrise App übe 😉🤷🏽‍♂️🙈

日本語を練習しています。

I've been learning #Japanese on my own for over twenty years. I can understand lots, speak a fair bit, read some ( #kanji is hard), but write virtually none. Online/digital tools have gotten so much better (ie, #SwiftKey sorted out what I typed phonetically, above), but it's not the same as being able to read and write a #language.

So, I've added another tool to my arsenal.

Shout to @coffeentacos for posting about just the thing I was looking for, when I was looking for it.

#duolingo #anki #memrise #todai #anime #manga

日本語を練習しています。

I've been learning #Japanese on my own for over twenty years. I can understand lots, speak a fair bit, read some ( #kanji is hard), but write virtually none. Online/digital tools have gotten so much better (ie, #SwiftKey sorted out what I typed phonetically, above), but it's not the same as being able to read and write a #language.

So, I've added another tool to my arsenal.

Shout to @coffeentacos for posting about just the thing I was looking for, when I was looking for it.

#duolingo #anki #memrise #todai #anime #manga

#学习小技巧 #语言学习

8.
想法：这些时态语态我学过了，把例句背一背就好了吧！
现实：只背例句意味着每次要说话都得想一遍例句，效果类似于前嘟提到的用翻译的方法背单词。

事情是这样的：
学句子只能记住词汇，不能搞懂语法。
学词汇只能记住字母，不能搞懂词汇。

反推一下就是：
如果你想学习词汇，那就去看句子。
如果你想学习语法，那就去看全文。（不一定是文本媒介的“全文”，视频音频都是很好的媒介。纯文本学起来会比较无聊。）

这点我要夸爆#memrise，它的学习模式是：
先学一个单词，了解字面意思。
再学一个词语，了解固定搭配。
最后学一句话，了解作用场景。

词汇短语的作用，字面意思和引申义的区别，所学词汇放在句子的哪个位置，循序渐进就学清楚了。如果是问句，多半还能再学一句回答。

举个例子：
在同一单元中先后出现了
la guitarra 吉他
tocar la guitarra 弹吉他
el piano 钢琴
tocar el piano 弹钢琴
especialmente 特别，尤其
es bueno tocando el piano 他擅长弹钢琴
es especialmente buena tocando la guitarra 她特别擅长弹吉他

这个单元就学了：
1.乐器名及其定冠词
2.演奏乐器用的动词及其搭配
3.副词
4.包含上述内容的不同性别人称造句

因为西班牙语有阴阳性，男生女生用的形容词结尾不同。考虑到这点课程设计者特意造了两个句子以示区别。这点真的很棒！不论是从「打破以男性为主导的世界」这个角度，还是从「语言学习与运用」角度来看，这样的细节设计都值得称赞。

这只是单元里的一部分，还有别的例子不放上来了。这些内容会像#obsidian 的脑图一样在大脑里形成联结，而非传统的学习模式那样零落松散。

学完以后的我：
1.认识了两种乐器，一个动词和一个副词
2.知道如何表达演奏乐器
3.知道副词该放哪里
4.知道如何表达某人擅长做某事
5.前面加个否定词我就能表达某人不擅长做某事

以后只需要把新词丢进memrise给我的模版，就能举一反三创造出一大堆属于我自己的句子。一切都那么自然又顺利。

memrise适合有一定词汇基础的学习者，网页版免费app付费，具体安利还没来得及写。就算不用它，也可以参考它的学习模式，因为真的太有帮助了！

#学习小技巧 #语言学习

8.
想法：这些时态语态我学过了，把例句背一背就好了吧！
现实：只背例句意味着每次要说话都得想一遍例句，效果类似于前嘟提到的用翻译的方法背单词。

事情是这样的：
学句子只能记住词汇，不能搞懂语法。
学词汇只能记住字母，不能搞懂词汇。

反推一下就是：
如果你想学习词汇，那就去看句子。
如果你想学习语法，那就去看全文。（不一定是文本媒介的“全文”，视频音频都是很好的媒介。纯文本学起来会比较无聊。）

这点我要夸爆#memrise，它的学习模式是：
先学一个单词，了解字面意思。
再学一个词语，了解固定搭配。
最后学一句话，了解作用场景。

词汇短语的作用，字面意思和引申义的区别，所学词汇放在句子的哪个位置，循序渐进就学清楚了。如果是问句，多半还能再学一句回答。

举个例子：
在同一单元中先后出现了
la guitarra 吉他
tocar la guitarra 弹吉他
el piano 钢琴
tocar el piano 弹钢琴
especialmente 特别，尤其
es bueno tocando el piano 他擅长弹钢琴
es especialmente buena tocando la guitarra 她特别擅长弹吉他

这个单元就学了：
1.乐器名及其定冠词
2.演奏乐器用的动词及其搭配
3.副词
4.包含上述内容的不同性别人称造句

因为西班牙语有阴阳性，男生女生用的形容词结尾不同。考虑到这点课程设计者特意造了两个句子以示区别。这点真的很棒！不论是从「打破以男性为主导的世界」这个角度，还是从「语言学习与运用」角度来看，这样的细节设计都值得称赞。

这只是单元里的一部分，还有别的例子不放上来了。这些内容会像#obsidian 的脑图一样在大脑里形成联结，而非传统的学习模式那样零落松散。

学完以后的我：
1.认识了两种乐器，一个动词和一个副词
2.知道如何表达演奏乐器
3.知道副词该放哪里
4.知道如何表达某人擅长做某事
5.前面加个否定词我就能表达某人不擅长做某事

以后只需要把新词丢进memrise给我的模版，就能举一反三创造出一大堆属于我自己的句子。一切都那么自然又顺利。

memrise适合有一定词汇基础的学习者，网页版免费app付费，具体安利还没来得及写。就算不用它，也可以参考它的学习模式，因为真的太有帮助了！

#学习小技巧 之停止使用翻译模式：学习的时候只看目标语言而无视母语注释。

很多人学习的时候会用「从母语翻译为外语」的思路，这样肯定行不通。因为母语的熟练度比外语高太多，以母语为基准的后果就是忘记新学的外语词：哎呀，我刚才背的那个单词是什么来着？中文倒是记住了……

为了避免这种情况，请在学习的时候以外语为主：把眼神聚焦在外语单词上，而非母语释义上。至于后者，用余光轻轻扫过看个大概就可以了。

如果觉得我的描述很抽象，那么试试：
我在学火星文。
峩恠學焱篂彣。

目光放在第一句，看懂了，大脑就不想管第二句了。过两秒回忆第二句怎么写，直接尬住。

给自己一个「从外语翻译回母语」的机会。盯着「峩恠學焱篂彣」，别管中文了。多盯几遍就能学会，而且记得牢。

- 具体方法
1. 如果是简单词，余光撇过释义后在脑海中生成大概的形象（具象抽象皆可），如果是复杂一点的词，就想象一个大致的使用场景。

低效学习：
苹果→apple
学习效果：
🍎→苹果→apple（长链）

高效学习：
苹果→🍎→apple
学习效果：
🍎→apple（短链）

如果你学的语言很多就会变成这样：
manzana
↑
苹果←🍎→apple
↓
りんご

结果会很酷，你认识了同一样事物的不同名字，它们可以*同时*从你的脑子里跳出来而不必费劲想半天如何翻译。它们不是通过文字，而是通过概念在脑子里对应的，所以它们不需要翻译。

2. 如果是句子，思考一下能看懂，就请*不要*看释义。有生词或不明白的语法影响理解了，就从释义反推，再思考并理解句子。如果还是不懂，说明这句话对现在的自己来说太难了，丢到一边以后再学。

选一句#memrise 的例句：
¿Cómo fueron tus vacaciones?

这句话我100%认识三个词cómo(how)，tus(your)和vacaciones(vacations)，剩下一个fueron只认识80%，够了。整句意思我知道了。所以我*不需要*看它的释义，就能在选择题中选对。选择时我只需要看选项是不是在问假期就行了。

如果我不幸看了释义并记住了关键词「假期」，因为例句过于简单所以做题倒也能选对，但懒惰的大脑就会彻底无视例句中fueron这个词。等下次这个词出现，我还是只认识80%。

#学习小技巧 之停止使用翻译模式：学习的时候只看目标语言而无视母语注释。

很多人学习的时候会用「从母语翻译为外语」的思路，这样肯定行不通。因为母语的熟练度比外语高太多，以母语为基准的后果就是忘记新学的外语词：哎呀，我刚才背的那个单词是什么来着？中文倒是记住了……

为了避免这种情况，请在学习的时候以外语为主：把眼神聚焦在外语单词上，而非母语释义上。至于后者，用余光轻轻扫过看个大概就可以了。

如果觉得我的描述很抽象，那么试试：
我在学火星文。
峩恠學焱篂彣。

目光放在第一句，看懂了，大脑就不想管第二句了。过两秒回忆第二句怎么写，直接尬住。

给自己一个「从外语翻译回母语」的机会。盯着「峩恠學焱篂彣」，别管中文了。多盯几遍就能学会，而且记得牢。

- 具体方法
1. 如果是简单词，余光撇过释义后在脑海中生成大概的形象（具象抽象皆可），如果是复杂一点的词，就想象一个大致的使用场景。

低效学习：
苹果→apple
学习效果：
🍎→苹果→apple（长链）

高效学习：
苹果→🍎→apple
学习效果：
🍎→apple（短链）

如果你学的语言很多就会变成这样：
manzana
↑
苹果←🍎→apple
↓
りんご

结果会很酷，你认识了同一样事物的不同名字，它们可以*同时*从你的脑子里跳出来而不必费劲想半天如何翻译。它们不是通过文字，而是通过概念在脑子里对应的，所以它们不需要翻译。

2. 如果是句子，思考一下能看懂，就请*不要*看释义。有生词或不明白的语法影响理解了，就从释义反推，再思考并理解句子。如果还是不懂，说明这句话对现在的自己来说太难了，丢到一边以后再学。

选一句#memrise 的例句：
¿Cómo fueron tus vacaciones?

这句话我100%认识三个词cómo(how)，tus(your)和vacaciones(vacations)，剩下一个fueron只认识80%，够了。整句意思我知道了。所以我*不需要*看它的释义，就能在选择题中选对。选择时我只需要看选项是不是在问假期就行了。

如果我不幸看了释义并记住了关键词「假期」，因为例句过于简单所以做题倒也能选对，但懒惰的大脑就会彻底无视例句中fueron这个词。等下次这个词出现，我还是只认识80%。

ooh :blobcatsurprised: I just found out I can get the new #Memrise interface via their Early Access option (in Settings). Everything is shiny and new! :blobcat_banban: #LangaugeLearning #LanguageStudy #Languages

ooh :blobcatsurprised: I just found out I can get the new #Memrise interface via their Early Access option (in Settings). Everything is shiny and new! :blobcat_banban: #LangaugeLearning #LanguageStudy #Languages

（长毛象排版看着累，拉到底下有博客链接）
横向对比了3个语言学习类app #drops #点滴学语言 #memrise #忆术家 #duolingo #多邻国

- 省流版/学习场景

Drops
适合碎片时间学习生活词汇和简单短语。如果你有一堆基础的动物植物地理物理化学医院邮局超市家庭亲属相关词汇不会说，用它！
Memrise
适合学单词、基本动词以及生活常用短语。如果你已经学习了少量词汇，却很无法开启简单的对话，用它！
Duolingo
适合刷着玩，辅助检查有什么不会的知识点，不适合用来学习。如果你想消磨时间，用它！

- 我眼中的定位

Drops
没事刷一刷，生活相关词汇量噌噌上涨。吃喝玩乐词汇量增加了！
Memrise
除了词汇，还能学习基础的动词和实用句子。妈妈再也不用担心我在公共场合尬到无法点餐了！
Duolingo
我到底学了个啥啊，虽然能看懂一些了但是，怎么一句也用不起来？

- 个人评分

Drops
学习逻辑 ★★★★★
奖励机制 ★★★☆☆
自主掌控 ★★★★★
内容实用 ★★★★☆
社交互动 ★☆☆☆☆

优点：生活词汇种类丰富，免费版每天可学5分钟。
缺点：以词汇为主，句子太少了。

Memrise
学习逻辑 ★★★☆☆
奖励机制 ★☆☆☆☆
自主掌控 ★★★★★
内容实用 ★★★★★
社交互动 ★☆☆☆☆

优点：实用，每个单元不仅有单词而且有生活中能上的句子。
缺点：只有网页版免费，app需付费。

Duolingo
学习逻辑 ★☆☆☆☆
奖励机制 ★★★★☆
自主掌控 ★★☆☆☆
内容实用 ★☆☆☆☆
社交互动 ★★★★★

优点：免费，社交属性强。
缺点：不适合学习，用户体验逐年变差。

优劣对比太长了以至于整篇分三段也放不下……移步：

墙国链接
https://xunhuan2046.bearblog.dev/idiomas-2023-06-19

（长毛象排版看着累，拉到底下有博客链接）
横向对比了3个语言学习类app #drops #点滴学语言 #memrise #忆术家 #duolingo #多邻国

- 省流版/学习场景

Drops
适合碎片时间学习生活词汇和简单短语。如果你有一堆基础的动物植物地理物理化学医院邮局超市家庭亲属相关词汇不会说，用它！
Memrise
适合学单词、基本动词以及生活常用短语。如果你已经学习了少量词汇，却很无法开启简单的对话，用它！
Duolingo
适合刷着玩，辅助检查有什么不会的知识点，不适合用来学习。如果你想消磨时间，用它！

- 我眼中的定位

Drops
没事刷一刷，生活相关词汇量噌噌上涨。吃喝玩乐词汇量增加了！
Memrise
除了词汇，还能学习基础的动词和实用句子。妈妈再也不用担心我在公共场合尬到无法点餐了！
Duolingo
我到底学了个啥啊，虽然能看懂一些了但是，怎么一句也用不起来？

- 个人评分

Drops
学习逻辑 ★★★★★
奖励机制 ★★★☆☆
自主掌控 ★★★★★
内容实用 ★★★★☆
社交互动 ★☆☆☆☆

优点：生活词汇种类丰富，免费版每天可学5分钟。
缺点：以词汇为主，句子太少了。

Memrise
学习逻辑 ★★★☆☆
奖励机制 ★☆☆☆☆
自主掌控 ★★★★★
内容实用 ★★★★★
社交互动 ★☆☆☆☆

优点：实用，每个单元不仅有单词而且有生活中能上的句子。
缺点：只有网页版免费，app需付费。

Duolingo
学习逻辑 ★☆☆☆☆
奖励机制 ★★★★☆
自主掌控 ★★☆☆☆
内容实用 ★☆☆☆☆
社交互动 ★★★★★

优点：免费，社交属性强。
缺点：不适合学习，用户体验逐年变差。

优劣对比太长了以至于整篇分三段也放不下……移步：

墙国链接
https://xunhuan2046.bearblog.dev/idiomas-2023-06-19

ADHD上瘾模式之60天刷完#drops 将近3000的西语词组，感觉爽飞了并且不过瘾所以还想再学点，于是打开了#多邻国 #duolingo，被更新之后的用户体验气晕。

现在才吐槽是因为旧版用户体验本身就不佳，所以很久才打开一次。没想到它的用户体验还能越来越差……

之前看tl有人发出疑问多邻国团队是不是有中国人所以一直鸡娃，我也有同感。现在不仅是鸡娃，而且还强奸用户。新版没有跳过单元的选项了（只有跳过一整章），并且看别人反馈说多邻国去掉了网页版的生词表，最后把网页版也改了。

还有用户吐槽说本来每个单元有标题，能方便地复习，现在也没有了。所以现在多邻国不仅看不到每个单元学习的内容，而且为了看到单元标题还得一个个点击……

你不给我看我在学什么，我怎么知道我在学什么啊？我都不知道自己在学什么，那我学个毛线啊？

多邻国把利于学习的东西淡化甚至直接去掉了，让用户沉迷于语言学习版奶头乐，能吸引大量用户。就这么说吧，多邻国的主要目标已经不是「让所有人免费受教育学语言」了，而是「尽可能地培养用户粘性」，为此既能强奸用户（无法跳过小单元/弹出连续X天学习提醒时没有拒绝选项），也能去掉让人学得清楚的功能（生词表）。

对我这种2015年注册的老用户来说，感觉很恶心。本来快速刷完一个语种，就能进行下一步学习了（比如有些人结束了英语学习，还会用英语学一遍中文），现在根本刷不完。

我还经常看人（有朋友圈的中国人也有fb的外国人）吐槽说多邻国打卡多少天，实战技能约为零。并且大家会以为这是学习语言的常态。

这*不是*学习语言的常态！！！
要想实战技能不为零可以刷一下#drops 和#memrise（顺着这条嘟往上爬一下）再不济也刷一下油管吧！！！如果你刷多邻国是为了实战，赶紧卸载吧。刷着玩玩差不多。

多邻国的优势目前仅存：免费。
它在我眼里的定位是：没事刷着玩一下能学习literally一点点语言知识，可以连胜打卡截图发朋友圈炫耀的app。——重点是刷着玩和打卡，而非「学习语言」。

待我下篇写各家app的优劣和使用场景/我眼中的定位。

ADHD上瘾模式之60天刷完#drops 将近3000的西语词组，感觉爽飞了并且不过瘾所以还想再学点，于是打开了#多邻国 #duolingo，被更新之后的用户体验气晕。

现在才吐槽是因为旧版用户体验本身就不佳，所以很久才打开一次。没想到它的用户体验还能越来越差……

之前看tl有人发出疑问多邻国团队是不是有中国人所以一直鸡娃，我也有同感。现在不仅是鸡娃，而且还强奸用户。新版没有跳过单元的选项了（只有跳过一整章），并且看别人反馈说多邻国去掉了网页版的生词表，最后把网页版也改了。

还有用户吐槽说本来每个单元有标题，能方便地复习，现在也没有了。所以现在多邻国不仅看不到每个单元学习的内容，而且为了看到单元标题还得一个个点击……

你不给我看我在学什么，我怎么知道我在学什么啊？我都不知道自己在学什么，那我学个毛线啊？

多邻国把利于学习的东西淡化甚至直接去掉了，让用户沉迷于语言学习版奶头乐，能吸引大量用户。就这么说吧，多邻国的主要目标已经不是「让所有人免费受教育学语言」了，而是「尽可能地培养用户粘性」，为此既能强奸用户（无法跳过小单元/弹出连续X天学习提醒时没有拒绝选项），也能去掉让人学得清楚的功能（生词表）。

对我这种2015年注册的老用户来说，感觉很恶心。本来快速刷完一个语种，就能进行下一步学习了（比如有些人结束了英语学习，还会用英语学一遍中文），现在根本刷不完。

我还经常看人（有朋友圈的中国人也有fb的外国人）吐槽说多邻国打卡多少天，实战技能约为零。并且大家会以为这是学习语言的常态。

这*不是*学习语言的常态！！！
要想实战技能不为零可以刷一下#drops 和#memrise（顺着这条嘟往上爬一下）再不济也刷一下油管吧！！！如果你刷多邻国是为了实战，赶紧卸载吧。刷着玩玩差不多。

多邻国的优势目前仅存：免费。
它在我眼里的定位是：没事刷着玩一下能学习literally一点点语言知识，可以连胜打卡截图发朋友圈炫耀的app。——重点是刷着玩和打卡，而非「学习语言」。

待我下篇写各家app的优劣和使用场景/我眼中的定位。

https://comfy.social/notes/9ewqj4m2cd #多邻国 真的是我语言学习生涯中用到的「看起来非常棒实际上并不好」top1……一直很欣赏创始人及其团队的理念：教育就应该是免费的、大家都能得到的。然而多邻国的学习方式和内容都不太利于语言学习。

1.句子没有清楚的语法解释
网页版以前是有的，现在不清楚，但app上没有。这对语言学习者来说是非常灾难的。我经常看fb小组里很多人提问弱智问题，我的学生刷多邻国刷到一半也会截图来问我，就因为多邻国本身并没有对语法进行解释。如果有解释，他们就没必要问了，看一遍自己就懂。就算要问，也是问没那么弱智的问题。没有语法解释就学句子，简单句还好，稍微难一点的就越学越懵。

2.无法预览整个单元内容
和1.搭配，继续越学越懵。

3.学习模式提倡卷，非常鸡娃
排行榜也就算了，多邻国的催命推送真的令人不适。以嘲讽的形式督促用户学习并不是一种好方法。

最重要的一点：

4.例句很离谱，生活中用不到
就算离谱例句能加深人类对生词的印象，但日常生活中用不到，学了做什么？在fb小组里看到过学希腊语的用户调侃遇到希腊人，很想上前搭讪试试多邻国例句「水是粉红色的」……评论区一片欢声笑语。

我真的很不能理解，花时间精力做一堆练习学一堆生活中根本用不到的句子，图什么？图词汇量+1吗？

在这方面，语言学习类app #drops 和#memrise 都是做得很好的，尤其是后者。学到的句子都很实用，很生活化，日常生活中有机会用上。可惜的是前者免费版每天只能学5分钟，后者网页版免费app收费。（不确定现在网页版是否免费的，至少当年是免费的。）

https://comfy.social/notes/9ewqj4m2cd #多邻国 真的是我语言学习生涯中用到的「看起来非常棒实际上并不好」top1……一直很欣赏创始人及其团队的理念：教育就应该是免费的、大家都能得到的。然而多邻国的学习方式和内容都不太利于语言学习。

1.句子没有清楚的语法解释
网页版以前是有的，现在不清楚，但app上没有。这对语言学习者来说是非常灾难的。我经常看fb小组里很多人提问弱智问题，我的学生刷多邻国刷到一半也会截图来问我，就因为多邻国本身并没有对语法进行解释。如果有解释，他们就没必要问了，看一遍自己就懂。就算要问，也是问没那么弱智的问题。没有语法解释就学句子，简单句还好，稍微难一点的就越学越懵。

2.无法预览整个单元内容
和1.搭配，继续越学越懵。

3.学习模式提倡卷，非常鸡娃
排行榜也就算了，多邻国的催命推送真的令人不适。以嘲讽的形式督促用户学习并不是一种好方法。

最重要的一点：

4.例句很离谱，生活中用不到
就算离谱例句能加深人类对生词的印象，但日常生活中用不到，学了做什么？在fb小组里看到过学希腊语的用户调侃遇到希腊人，很想上前搭讪试试多邻国例句「水是粉红色的」……评论区一片欢声笑语。

我真的很不能理解，花时间精力做一堆练习学一堆生活中根本用不到的句子，图什么？图词汇量+1吗？

在这方面，语言学习类app #drops 和#memrise 都是做得很好的，尤其是后者。学到的句子都很实用，很生活化，日常生活中有机会用上。可惜的是前者免费版每天只能学5分钟，后者网页版免费app收费。（不确定现在网页版是否免费的，至少当年是免费的。）

I wonder which one it could be? #LanguageLearning #Memrise #ProgrammingFail

@greenexpanse For some languages #DuoLingo provides some basic explanation that helps here and there. But I agree - you have to infer a lot.

That's why I bounce around among several language learning apps - DuoLingo, #Babbel, Drops, Mango, #Mondly, and #Memrise. All have their strengths.

Personally I find Babbel and Mango are the most comprehensive.

@TheDigitalGlobalCitizen @languagelovers I'm native in English, did #French and #German in high school up to 15yo.

3y ago I began #Chinese on #Duolingo; got the bug for languages now.

I crammed 3m of #Portuguese before a trip (thanks #Memrise), and also dabbled in #Spanish, #Ukrainian, #Gaelic, #Gallic, #Dutch and less so #Welsh, #Korean, #Arabic, #Hindi, #Danish and #Latin.

Relearning German now too.

I ♥️ #ProtoIndoEuropean, and the links between modern languages.

@TheDigitalGlobalCitizen @languagelovers I'm native in English, did #French and #German in high school up to 15yo.

3y ago I began #Chinese on #Duolingo; got the bug for languages now.

I crammed 3m of #Portuguese before a trip (thanks #Memrise), and also dabbled in #Spanish, #Ukrainian, #Gaelic, #Gallic, #Dutch and less so #Welsh, #Korean, #Arabic, #Hindi, #Danish and #Latin.

Relearning German now too.

I ♥️ #ProtoIndoEuropean, and the links between modern languages.

Things I enjoy about the federated timeline: a solid presence of non-English language content.

I love languages and learning, but sometimes learning in a vacuum can be lonely. So glad to be able to read thoughts from folks who speak other languages, and improve my own usage in turn.

#language #lifelonglearning #learning #duolingo #memrise

So, I finally caved and bought a year's subscription on #Memrise. The app is always pushing a half price sub on app, so figured why not, especially having just cancelled my #Duolingo sub renewal after the current #DuolingoUpdate fiasco.

My main reason for subbing to Memrise is I wanted regular access to the pronunciation test. I know its probably not 100% accurate, but at least it forces me (a solo learner) to speak the language rather than just read or write.

#LanguageLearning #LangToot

Ĉu?! 😮
Lernu estas forviŝita de poŝtelefona apejo en Ĉinio? 🥺🙄

The #Esperanto-teaching website “Lernu!” is apparently removed from phone app stores, as said in this report…

RT @[email protected]

La represión educativa de Beijing golpea a Duolingo, Memrise, Busuu, Beelinguapp y Lernu, un proyecto gratuito para promover y enseñar esperanto.
https://www.scmp.com/tech/policy/article/3144070/beijings-education-crackdown-hits-duolingo-memrise-language-learning #Esperanto #Lernu #Duolingo #Memrise #Busuu

🐦🔗: https://twitter.com/sabir_es/status/1423555281368326144

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