#mastodoncloud — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #mastodoncloud, aggregated by home.social.
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We mentioned the closure of Mastodon.cloud yesterday. We've looked into it a little bit more and uhm... they've been looking for someone to take over?
It may be too late, but if u are okay spending "about $800" a month on what we would consider a def rehab project... maybe ask?
Or maybe we could all get together and clean it up?
#FediAdmins #FediMods #FediModerator #MastodonCloud #Mastodon
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🤣 Ha ha
The admin of Mastodon Cloud finally, after all these years, upgraded their Mastodon instance — but to version 4.5.9, which contains a known security vulnerability. Version 4.5.10 was released 3 weeks ago, yet they upgraded to the insecure 4.5.9 release instead.
I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't laugh and instead suspect some form of mental incompetence. Otherwise, it's hard to explain upgrading to a version that was already known to be outdated and vulnerable. 🤦
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Mastodon Dot Cloud is once again running outdated software.
They are using Mastodon 4.3.22, which reached end of life last week.
It took over a year for them to upgrade their old site to Mastodon 4.3.22, and instead of continuing the upgrade to the current 4.5.9 release, they remained on a version that was about to expire. It then reached end of life just seven days later.
The administrator appears to be incompetent.
cc: @TheAdmin
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As promised, I have implemented the suspension/block on mastodon.cloud. Folks on #SocialBC will not be able to interact with accounts on that server.
This was done due to ongoing issues with spam and un-moderated user additions from that un-regulated and defunct server.
The negative impact should be minimal as very few people followed accounts there or vice versa.
#MastodonCloud #FediBlock #Fediverse #moderation #OpenInstance
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The other “interesting” thing is that Mstdn.jp no longer displays the administrator account.
I suspect they’re doing something stupid — wanting everyone to reach them via email only.
If so, they’re creating their own future problem. That’s not how the Fediverse works!
This all seems like a case of a corporation getting involved in something without knowing what it’s doing or how anything in the ecosystem works.
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I think what makes Mastodon Dot Cloud so “interesting” is that it’s one of the few Fedi sites owned by a corporation. That same corporation also owns Mstdn Dot JP.
Mstdn.jp had staff — if you reported a problem, someone handled it. You also needed approval to activate an account after registering.
It’s ironic that the corporation managed Mstdn Dot JP fairly well while completely abandoning Mastodon Dot Cloud.
That said, Mstdn.jp is still running out-of-date software.
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I’m surprised they’re finally upgrading the site — slowly over days — but that’s part of the problem. It shows the same pattern: no action or long delays.
8 days, and they’re right back where they started with discontinued software.
Mastodon.Cloud has upgraded to 4.3.22, the last 4.3.x release, which will be end of life in 8 days.
4.3.22 also has documented security bugs, so they’re still running a version that isn’t fully secure.
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Their lack of communication is one of their biggest problems and why many sites have defederated and disconnected from Mastodon Dot Cloud.
A scammer, troll, or spammer would join your site, people would report the content, and nothing would happen. Worse, it would keep happening. Mastodon Dot Cloud has, for the past year, become known as a revolving door of trash and nonsense, and the whole time there’s been no proof anyone cared.
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8 days, and they're right back where they started with discontinued software.
Mastodon Dot Cloud has upgraded to 4.3.22 which is the last 4.3.x branch and will be end of life in 8 days.
4.3.22 also has a few known documented security bugs. So once again, they're still using a version of Mastodon that is not completely secure.
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Normally, AWS (Amazon Web Services) is fairly reliable. The issue is not likely their hosting provider, and more likely everything to do with how they've been managing things.
If you follow the hashtag #MastodonCloud you will see a lot of other sites were fed up with how that site was managed. You'll note they had basically abandon that site and the other sites they operated (they owned a few) and were using software from years ago.
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The same people who ran Mastodon Dot Cloud also ran Mstdn Dot JP.
By comparison, Mastodon Dot Cloud had no active staff and was filled with spam, scams, and bots.
However, ironically, while Mstdn was also using old software, it was still staffed. There were people there trying to keep it going, and you needed staff approval to join.
However, Mstdn Dot JP is now also offline.
I'm kind of sad to see that one offline — I used to have an account.
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The website called Website Down Dot com checks locations from around the world and reports Mastodon Dot Com is down everywhere.
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@cceddie @housepanther @TheAdmin
Its not a puzzling choice, because realistically, you have no choice — you must upgrade.
The new software has features that will not communicate with older versions. Plus, the old version has known security bugs.
If they’re unwilling or unable to upgrade, Mastodon Dot Cloud is not being properly managed or secured. They will continue to be de-federated.
It really comes down to existing within the Fediverse or not, and hoping you’re not hacked
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Mastodon Dot Cloud seems to be offline, again.
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RE: https://masto.ai/@Linux/116471427484550414
Mastodon Dot Cloud could theoretically upgrade to the latest 4.5.x build or even 4.6 nightly build, today, and no one would trust them to maintain it.
It's too late.
For over a year they left their site abandon. There is scam post, spam post, and bots all over the site because it was left abandon.
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Someone needs to explain "Internet time" to the people running Mastodon Dot Cloud.
Seconds or less = Now.
1 minute = 1 hour
1 hour = 1 day
1 day = 1 week
1 week = 1 month
1 month = 1 year
1 year or more = Forever.
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Mastodon Dot Cloud seems to have either disabled or removed their security certificate. Standard httpS is not working.
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That is possible.
I know you can jump version with Mastodon, but some of the older versions you had to be more caution when doing so. So it is possible.
However, with the newer versions, I recall someone jumping from 4.3.x to 4.5.x. I'm not certain when the code became stable enough to do that.
That said, you do bring up a valid point since they were on 4.1.x
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@housepanther @cceddie @TheAdmin
4.2.9 is bad because the 4.2.x branch is discontinued and has a security flaw.
The last 4.2.x branch was 4.2.29
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/releases/tag/v4.2.29
They "upgrade" to a new version by "downgrading" to a new security flaw. But more importantly, they are still using discontinued software because both 4.1.x and 4.2.x are no longer is supported.
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OMG. 🤣
Mastodon.cloud is back online and now using older software.
Originally, they were running Mastodon 4.1.25 from April 2025 (a year ago), and now they’re on Mastodon 4.2.9 from May 2024 — two years ago.
I mean, sure, they’ve bumped the version number while actually using an older codebase. 🤦
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Not my doing, but Mastodon Dot Cloud seems to have finally gone offline.
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@quattrocchi @warning @Sujiyan @mellifluousbox @haubles
If that is your goal, you failed. It's kind of a little too late now since most of the major sites are de-federating. Your lack of actions, became your reputation, and your "brand" is now tarnished.
Honestly, I just visited Mastodon.Cloud and there are only bots. You've lost the people, because the people saw your incompetence.
Good luck, though.
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@mellifluousbox @quattrocchi @warning @Sujiyan @haubles @TheAdmin @MastodonEngineering
So it took much of the Fediverse to threaten to cut off all ties, and numinous complaints for months, for them to finally post anything.
A little to late, don't you think? But I wish them well.
They should aim for 4.6.x in the future so they don't end up behind, again. And honestly, if you cannot update your site at least 2x a year, perhaps they shouldn't run one.
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@quattrocchi @warning @Sujiyan @mellifluousbox @haubles
That's the problem!
Their lack of moderation has made Mastodon.cloud everyone else's problem since spammers and scammers join Mastodon.cloud and harass people everywhere else.
NO, Mastodon.cloud management or lack of management is not the norm. If it where, people would not be singling out Mastodon.cloud.
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I am NOT generally concerned with mstdn.jp.
1) Viewing their live feed (see URL below), there does not seem to be any obvious spam.
2) As shown in the screenshot, you need staff approval. This implies there are people managing it, unlike Mastodon.cloud.
Live feed URL:
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@daj
The server I use has already defederated from mastodon.cloud. I think I lost a couple of followers as a result. -
Are any of my followers on the mastodon.cloud server?
You should think about migrating away. There's a growing discussion that some servers are going to defederate (disconnect) from the server. This means that servers will not process any posts from mastodon.cloud.
Why? mastodon.cloud is not maintained. The server software is very outdated and contains security vulnerability. Also, there is no active moderation, resulting in abusive content and new accounts being created for spam. I read that there have been many attempts to contact the admin team but no response for a few years!
#defederate #mastodoncloud -
Wegen #mastodoncloud: Please follow the instructions: https://digitalpioneers.club/mastodon-umzug-fediversum/ #mastodonumzug #Instanzwechsel
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RE: https://fosstodon.org/@fosstodon/116426844488528606
If you’re on mastodon.cloud and want an invite to our server, let me know. If you’re an ethical human being I will make sure you can migrate here.
More info and a how-to:
https://mastodon.cloud/@warning/116428433776802175Fosstodon isn’t the first and won’t be the last. Lots of moderators/admins have been toeing this line. Which sucks for the good folks there.
The main reason for all of this is that their server is dangerous. It’s way out of date and unmoderated. CSAM and spam city.