#legalese — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #legalese, aggregated by home.social.
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🚢 Ahoy, sailors! #Iran wants your cash 💸 before you sail their Strait of Hormuz waters. It's like a toll booth, but with extra layers of #bureaucracy and more fine print than a novel 📜. Enjoy those "mandatory" fees while navigating the sea of #legalese and cookies 🍪!
https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1157571/Iran-imposes-mandatory-insurance-on-ships-transiting-Strait-of-Hormuz-with-fees-likely-to-follow #Sailors #StraitOfHormuz #TollFees #HackerNews #ngated -
🚢 Ahoy, sailors! #Iran wants your cash 💸 before you sail their Strait of Hormuz waters. It's like a toll booth, but with extra layers of #bureaucracy and more fine print than a novel 📜. Enjoy those "mandatory" fees while navigating the sea of #legalese and cookies 🍪!
https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1157571/Iran-imposes-mandatory-insurance-on-ships-transiting-Strait-of-Hormuz-with-fees-likely-to-follow #Sailors #StraitOfHormuz #TollFees #HackerNews #ngated -
OpenAI's latest "innovation" is adding a section to their service terms about on-premises #software, because clearly, nothing says cutting-edge tech like paperwork 🤦♂️. Apparently, they're so forward-thinking, they've penned the contract before the product even exists—who knew #legalese could be prophetic? 📜🔮
https://ledger.somantix.ai/posts/open-ai-lays-groundwork-for-on-prem-product/ #OpenAI #Innovation #OnPremises #TechHumor #HackerNews #ngated -
OpenAI's latest "innovation" is adding a section to their service terms about on-premises #software, because clearly, nothing says cutting-edge tech like paperwork 🤦♂️. Apparently, they're so forward-thinking, they've penned the contract before the product even exists—who knew #legalese could be prophetic? 📜🔮
https://ledger.somantix.ai/posts/open-ai-lays-groundwork-for-on-prem-product/ #OpenAI #Innovation #OnPremises #TechHumor #HackerNews #ngated -
Prima Facsimile Evidence and Commencification of Legal Proceedings https://lowendbox.com/blog/prima-facsimile-evidence-and-commencification-of-legal-proceedings/ #Editorial&News #attorneys #attorney #legalese #lawyers #lawyer #DMCA #gdpr
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🍒🚀 Ruby Central's latest saga is just a *gem* of boardroom #drama and verbose non-statements 🤐. If you love #legalese and cryptic messages more than actual coding, this one's for you! 🧐🤷♂️ #NothingToSeeHere
https://rubycentral.org/news/a-message-from-the-ruby-central-board/ #RubyCentral #BoardroomSaga #TechNews #CodingCommunity #HackerNews #ngated -
🍒🚀 Ruby Central's latest saga is just a *gem* of boardroom #drama and verbose non-statements 🤐. If you love #legalese and cryptic messages more than actual coding, this one's for you! 🧐🤷♂️ #NothingToSeeHere
https://rubycentral.org/news/a-message-from-the-ruby-central-board/ #RubyCentral #BoardroomSaga #TechNews #CodingCommunity #HackerNews #ngated -
CW: Too boring for words.
I am drafting a "rules of association". It is partly an exercise, and partly an guess at of something that may become real.
Starting with the standard rules for an "unincorporated association": (https://www.acnc.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021-07/download_template_rules_for_unincorporated_associations_with_notes_pdf_639kb_.pdf)
But I am tired of organisations infiltrated by arseholes, and I wonder if it is possible to put standards of behaviour front and centre.
I am inspired by Mastodon's "No Nazis", but I am not sure it is either specific, nor general enough.Please help. Does your group have something-like this? What have I missed, and, in the interests of sanity, what has been double-defined?
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17. Membership hurdles.
17.1 The association insists on the following psychological characteristics and standards of behaviour from all members.
17.2 No member will be accepted, and existing members will be expelled if they fail any of these hurdles.
17.3 The psychological characteristics. Members must not be:
i. psychopaths,
ii. sociopaths,
iii. narcissists,
iv. liars,
v. egomaniacs.
17.4 The standards of behaviour. Members must never indulge in :
i. crime,
ii. racism,
iii. misogyny,
iv. criticism of person,
v. aggression, threats, shaming,
vi. coercive control,
vii.prejudice, bigotry.
17.5 The association explicitly rejects the notion that a person’s ability can replace or diminish their need to clear these hurdles. The most able and talented member will be expelled if they fail.#rules #DarkTriad #constitution #legalese #IANAL #arseholes #governance
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CW: Too boring for words.
I am drafting a "rules of association". It is partly an exercise, and partly an guess at of something that may become real.
Starting with the standard rules for an "unincorporated association": (https://www.acnc.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021-07/download_template_rules_for_unincorporated_associations_with_notes_pdf_639kb_.pdf)
But I am tired of organisations infiltrated by arseholes, and I wonder if it is possible to put standards of behaviour front and centre.
I am inspired by Mastodon's "No Nazis", but I am not sure it is either specific, nor general enough.Please help. Does your group have something-like this? What have I missed, and, in the interests of sanity, what has been double-defined?
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17. Membership hurdles.
17.1 The association insists on the following psychological characteristics and standards of behaviour from all members.
17.2 No member will be accepted, and existing members will be expelled if they fail any of these hurdles.
17.3 The psychological characteristics. Members must not be:
i. psychopaths,
ii. sociopaths,
iii. narcissists,
iv. liars,
v. egomaniacs.
17.4 The standards of behaviour. Members must never indulge in :
i. crime,
ii. racism,
iii. misogyny,
iv. criticism of person,
v. aggression, threats, shaming,
vi. coercive control,
vii.prejudice, bigotry.
17.5 The association explicitly rejects the notion that a person’s ability can replace or diminish their need to clear these hurdles. The most able and talented member will be expelled if they fail.#rules #DarkTriad #constitution #legalese #IANAL #arseholes #governance
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Since I'm pre- internet, years ago when I was learning how to start a legal business, I spent alot of time in the libraries reading books. Along the way, I came across the U.S. Code and always remembered this section. It opened up a big rabbit hole for me.
- Title 28 Part IV Chapter176 Subchapter A Section 3002(15)(a) = United States is a corporation.
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Airbnb is updating their Terms and Privacy Policy on April 20, 2026 and it includes a novel provision: 'We added a definition of “Legitimate and Verifiable Evidence” and clarified that this must not include AI generated content.' www.airbnb.com/help/article... #Legalese
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Questa è una delle cose che ripeto sempre quando insegno informatica forense: non bisogna MAI scrivere “ovvero” in una relazione tecnica.
Dobbiamo essere chiari, non ambigui.
https://www.ilpost.it/2026/01/22/abolizione-parola-ovvero-leggi-testi-giuridici/
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Questa è una delle cose che ripeto sempre quando insegno informatica forense: non bisogna MAI scrivere “ovvero” in una relazione tecnica.
Dobbiamo essere chiari, non ambigui.
https://www.ilpost.it/2026/01/22/abolizione-parola-ovvero-leggi-testi-giuridici/
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And if your ayes not yet bleeding from reading legalese for 4 hours, here is some text IN ALL CAPS for no apparent reason and bold for extra pleasure.
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And if your ayes not yet bleeding from reading legalese for 4 hours, here is some text IN ALL CAPS for no apparent reason and bold for extra pleasure.
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Oh, it's not only Germany still faxing? Americans too? And what the hell is "telecopy"? :D
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Oh, it's not only Germany still faxing? Americans too? And what the hell is "telecopy"? :D
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Reading US legalese like this I am fantasizing all sorts of aggressive acts against all the lawyers who are responsible for such alien crap.
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Reading US legalese like this I am fantasizing all sorts of aggressive acts against all the lawyers who are responsible for such alien crap.
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👨🎨🎨 Ah, the digital masterpiece that is "Mozilla right now": a stunning tableau of links to #donations and licenses that could turn any #art lover into a patron saint of patience. Revoy, in his infinite wisdom, has crafted a masterpiece not of visual delight, but of #endless #scrolling and #legalese. 💸📜
https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1108/mozilla-right-now #Mozilla #PatronSaints #HackerNews #ngated -
👨🎨🎨 Ah, the digital masterpiece that is "Mozilla right now": a stunning tableau of links to #donations and licenses that could turn any #art lover into a patron saint of patience. Revoy, in his infinite wisdom, has crafted a masterpiece not of visual delight, but of #endless #scrolling and #legalese. 💸📜
https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1108/mozilla-right-now #Mozilla #PatronSaints #HackerNews #ngated -
Oh, joy! Another license agreement that’s longer than a Tolstoy novel 📜😴. Apparently, you can do whatever you want with this software – as long as you don’t actually use it. 😜🔒 Welcome to the #legalese wonderland!
https://osaasy.dev/ #licenseagreement #softwaredevelopment #Tolstoynovel #techhumor #HackerNews #ngated -
Oh, joy! Another license agreement that’s longer than a Tolstoy novel 📜😴. Apparently, you can do whatever you want with this software – as long as you don’t actually use it. 😜🔒 Welcome to the #legalese wonderland!
https://osaasy.dev/ #licenseagreement #softwaredevelopment #Tolstoynovel #techhumor #HackerNews #ngated -
Ah, #Arduino, the once-open playground now guarded by terms thicker than an elephant's hide. 🐘🔒 Apparently, their servers are so confused that they can't even show their own #legalese. 🤷♂️ Just remember, folks: "Open" now means "closed for #maintenance." 🚪✨
https://www.molecularist.com/2025/11/did-qualcomm-kill-arduino-for-good.html #Open #Source #Closed #Elephant #HackerNews #ngated -
Ah, #Arduino, the once-open playground now guarded by terms thicker than an elephant's hide. 🐘🔒 Apparently, their servers are so confused that they can't even show their own #legalese. 🤷♂️ Just remember, folks: "Open" now means "closed for #maintenance." 🚪✨
https://www.molecularist.com/2025/11/did-qualcomm-kill-arduino-for-good.html #Open #Source #Closed #Elephant #HackerNews #ngated -
🚀💼 Wow, thrilling news: #Guideline was absorbed by Gusto! 🤯 Now you can read the same FAQ five times while deciphering #legalese and font licenses! 🧐🎉 Because who doesn't love a corporate #merger with the #excitement of watching paint dry? 🖌️😴
https://help.guideline.com/en/articles/12694322-guideline-has-joined-gusto-faqs-about-our-recent-acquisition #Gusto #CorporateNews #HackerNews #ngated -
🚀💼 Wow, thrilling news: #Guideline was absorbed by Gusto! 🤯 Now you can read the same FAQ five times while deciphering #legalese and font licenses! 🧐🎉 Because who doesn't love a corporate #merger with the #excitement of watching paint dry? 🖌️😴
https://help.guideline.com/en/articles/12694322-guideline-has-joined-gusto-faqs-about-our-recent-acquisition #Gusto #CorporateNews #HackerNews #ngated -
CW: Tommy Robinson - NOT GUILTY VERDICT (Oct 2025)... after all the hype...
@regendans After reviewing a lot of:
#TommyRobinson videos (and taking the points from them), this one stands out about him beingNOW "NOT GUILTY" 🧑⚖️ 🔨 #VERDICT
After being taken to court.
2nd days in court - nothing brought against him - hmm strange that - video here:
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=AP0nMh9Bh-4
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and other court update videos here:
https://inv.nadeko.net/search?q=channel%3AUC6wdP5hTf_phre6Q3kFiV2g+court
There is a lot of #fanfare and #hype but the last word and actual sentences by court count (not arrests / questioning / newspaper headlines etc) shows a lot about the hype - first arresting (meaning to talk or find dirt) - not much else... or do you doubt that?
So given the verdict and #fascist state recently (or forever) one has to always wonder about balancing all the shit and why they / the system spend so much time going after individuals like this that they can't even convict in their own twisted kangeroo #court. (for example they did it with #nojury and often #silenced him in weird ways unhelpful to his #legal #case)
And we know how easy it is to find people guilty in #legalese #language and all the many clauses to twist something. NOTHING FOR MANY (#ASSANGE... ETC also a journalistic type of person don't forget) means how crap they are...
" #Financial #Terrorists " Tommy calls them after they say how much in #legal #fees he has to pay at the end. Yeah just to profit from people - sounds about right (or at least the main thing above any real truth that looks bad on their side).
I'm not saying he is 100% right but BUT SO MANY TIMES "NOT #GUILTY" should be #proof enough which is hard / near IMPOSSIBLE in #court under bogus '#terrorism' laws AND even documenting things on himself by himself on youtube that I think NOBODY ELSE HAS #DOCUMENTED in such detail (and risky to do to this extent and upload) but he has not been challenged much on TONS of stuff and protected himself with truth more than dishonesty (as lots of people are watching) so always other more dishonest stuff tries to get in the way.
They were in a van outside his house (footage of that) just so #Nazi style dirty / desperate to find anything on him. Recording his family home, Driving on the pavement to get away when he try to block them with a car,
NOT TRYING TO TAKE SIDES BUT IT'S THE SAME #PATTERN SINCE FOREVER IF YOU HAVE 'SOME TRUTH' or UNCOVER THINGS ⬅️
All this is not by chance and it shows itself - plenty of State crap whether you are #rascist or not - when you get near the #truthes it gets really obvious by their reaction and sudden caring for you and what's right.
So the attention from a #failing #system is what you need to see also for what it is - a lot of fabricated and downright #fascistic systematic tendencies (I include the #silence by the way all these years and not answering it's victims, cost cutting, cutting corners, seeing people as GDP only, getting rid of body cam footage of whole teams of officers suddenly, not doing enough to disprove things etc)...
All while the points and evidences were told in detail by Tommy Robinson (it's online) and done by himself at first with phone, and then asking people door to door what happened, #councils paying #public to stay quiet in #NDA's Non-Disclosure Agreements etc).
Do question the #system and it's own #racism / #discrimination also for going after what serves them and their money so much / and not caring much for the #truth.
This pattern also in history and it's no accident or chance - it's deliberate #design with a system more for them to profit than anything for us like the truth and very inconvenient justice).
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Videos with for more facts here:
================https://inv.nadeko.net/search?q=channel%3AUC6wdP5hTf_phre6Q3kFiV2g+court
PICTURE #ALTTEXT WILL BE ADDED AS REPLY TO THIS TEXT
PIC from "Fighting back against Corrupt Councils, Courts and Police" @altbot
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Also why is legal text written in a way so difficult for "normaloes" to read?
I am struggling to understand single sentences even in my mother tongue, despite not having any diagnosed reading or mental disability, and otherwise using my reading skills on a daily basis (reading literature for fun).
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Also why is legal text written in a way so difficult for "normaloes" to read?
I am struggling to understand single sentences even in my mother tongue, despite not having any diagnosed reading or mental disability, and otherwise using my reading skills on a daily basis (reading literature for fun).
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Ah, the thrilling tale of Apple's #M1 #memory ordering #models, buried deep beneath a sea of ScienceDirect's #legalese and technical labyrinths. 🚀🔍 Who knew unlocking #CPU #mysteries required a master's degree in patience and a PhD in deciphering support team's cryptic clues? 🕵️♂️🔐
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1383762124000390 #Apple #TechLabyrinths #UnlockingSecrets #HackerNews #ngated -
Ah, the thrilling tale of Apple's #M1 #memory ordering #models, buried deep beneath a sea of ScienceDirect's #legalese and technical labyrinths. 🚀🔍 Who knew unlocking #CPU #mysteries required a master's degree in patience and a PhD in deciphering support team's cryptic clues? 🕵️♂️🔐
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1383762124000390 #Apple #TechLabyrinths #UnlockingSecrets #HackerNews #ngated -
Bluesky's latest masterpiece of #legalese ✨: A thrilling #update to their terms and policies, because who doesn't love a good bedtime story 📚? They've bravely decided to ask the #community for feedback—because nothing screams "we care" like #crowdsourcing your own homework 📝.
https://bsky.social/about/blog/08-14-2025-updated-terms-and-policies #Bluesky #Feedback #Engagement #HackerNews #ngated -
Bluesky's latest masterpiece of #legalese ✨: A thrilling #update to their terms and policies, because who doesn't love a good bedtime story 📚? They've bravely decided to ask the #community for feedback—because nothing screams "we care" like #crowdsourcing your own homework 📝.
https://bsky.social/about/blog/08-14-2025-updated-terms-and-policies #Bluesky #Feedback #Engagement #HackerNews #ngated -
Dia just updated its terms and privacy policy — and wow. Notably, Dia collects significantly more comprehensive data, including "pages you visit" and "queries submitted to and responses created by the Dia Assistant" - much more invasive than @arcinternet's approach #DiaBrowser #legalese
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So I see a notice on Netflix about an udpated #privacy terms notice. I click on the link on the screen to see the new notice.
Notice that at the bottom of the screen, it indicates that this is just the first of 93 screens. Like, someone is really going to read through 93 screens? Or even want to read something that long that is emailed to them?
This does not serve consumers well.
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So I see a notice on Netflix about an udpated #privacy terms notice. I click on the link on the screen to see the new notice.
Notice that at the bottom of the screen, it indicates that this is just the first of 93 screens. Like, someone is really going to read through 93 screens? Or even want to read something that long that is emailed to them?
This does not serve consumers well.
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✨🚀 Wow, John Carmack, the programming legend, is back with a riveting talk buried under a mountain of #legalese and tech support! 🔍🤖 Who knew the pinnacle of technological advancement in 2025 would be... the Supported Browsers page? 📜💻
https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1925710474366034326 #JohnCarmack #TechTalk #SupportedBrowsers #2025Innovation #HackerNews #ngated -
✨🚀 Wow, John Carmack, the programming legend, is back with a riveting talk buried under a mountain of #legalese and tech support! 🔍🤖 Who knew the pinnacle of technological advancement in 2025 would be... the Supported Browsers page? 📜💻
https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1925710474366034326 #JohnCarmack #TechTalk #SupportedBrowsers #2025Innovation #HackerNews #ngated -
🔥🐍🚀 Behold: #Pyrefly, because who doesn't want to run a #Python type checker written in #Rust that launches in the distant future of Spring 2025? 🤔 You'll be faster too if you never actually do anything! 🌟👻 Enjoy the endless scroll through #legalese and cookie policies. 🍪📜
https://pyrefly.org/ #Spring2025 #TypeChecker #HackerNews #ngated -
🔥🐍🚀 Behold: #Pyrefly, because who doesn't want to run a #Python type checker written in #Rust that launches in the distant future of Spring 2025? 🤔 You'll be faster too if you never actually do anything! 🌟👻 Enjoy the endless scroll through #legalese and cookie policies. 🍪📜
https://pyrefly.org/ #Spring2025 #TypeChecker #HackerNews #ngated -
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The former one, passive voice and all, may be even more hostile. "Be governed" means the governance comes from the outside.... "Obey, or you will be punished."It's a subtle difference. And maybe I'm reading too much into it. Both phrases really mean "…and the horse you rode in on."
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The former one, passive voice and all, may be even more hostile. "Be governed" means the governance comes from the outside.... "Obey, or you will be punished."It's a subtle difference. And maybe I'm reading too much into it. Both phrases really mean "…and the horse you rode in on."
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#legalese
There's a difference between "Please be governed accordingly" and "Govern yourself accordingly." I've always preferred the latter since I like to avid passive voice. It credits the recipient with their own agency and responsibility for the consequences of their actions. In other words, "You, there! Get your shit together or there will be consequences!"…
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#legalese
There's a difference between "Please be governed accordingly" and "Govern yourself accordingly." I've always preferred the latter since I like to avid passive voice. It credits the recipient with their own agency and responsibility for the consequences of their actions. In other words, "You, there! Get your shit together or there will be consequences!"…
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In this dazzling display of bandwidth wastage, we've assembled a collection of "#open-source" #licenses so painfully #niche that even your pet goldfish 🐠 would yawn. #GitHub proudly presents: a smorgasbord of legal mumbo-jumbo designed to make you question your life choices 🤔. Who needs practical code when you can drown in a sea of irrelevant #legalese? 🤦♂️
https://github.com/ErikMcClure/bad-licenses #bandwidth-wastage #coding-mumbo-jumbo #life-choices #HackerNews #ngated -
In this dazzling display of bandwidth wastage, we've assembled a collection of "#open-source" #licenses so painfully #niche that even your pet goldfish 🐠 would yawn. #GitHub proudly presents: a smorgasbord of legal mumbo-jumbo designed to make you question your life choices 🤔. Who needs practical code when you can drown in a sea of irrelevant #legalese? 🤦♂️
https://github.com/ErikMcClure/bad-licenses #bandwidth-wastage #coding-mumbo-jumbo #life-choices #HackerNews #ngated -
While perfectly legal, it is remarkable that to read a Bloomberg article, you must first agree to binding arbitration and waive your class action rights. #legalese
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MIT study explains why #laws are written in an incomprehensible style
Analysis revealed legal documents frequently have long definitions inserted in the middle of sentences -- known as "center-embedding." #Linguists have previously found that this #legalese structure can make text much more difficult to understand. "Legalese somehow has developed this tendency to put structures inside other structures, in a way which is not typical of human languages,"
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#DMCA abuse / bullying people...
...by copying your article + changing the post date to earlier date on another site + filing complaint against you so your original post is removed by your webhost!
#MollyWhite said:
💬 "... the “reputation management company” decided to try a new tactic.Following a familiar playbook, they copied my Web3 is Going Great post to a free BlogSpot website, then backdated it by one day.
The goal was to then abuse the notice and takedown process to claim that I had stolen their work, force my webhost to remove the post, and then hope that I was either intimidated by the legalese or too strapped for time to fight it out with my hosting provider.
Unfortunately for them, “legal department” is only one of the many hats I wear as an independent writer and publisher, and “hosting provider” is another. I informed them that no such infringement had occurred, and noted that there can be penalties for fraudulent copyright claims should they try to continue pursuing this tactic. "
https://www.citationneeded.news/i-am-my-own-legal-department/
#Law #Legal #Web3 #Copyright
#Web #Provider #Scare #Tactic
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MIT study explains why laws are written in an incomprehensible style
https://news.mit.edu/2024/mit-study-explains-laws-incomprehensible-writing-style-0819
#ycombinator #law #Legalese #Language #Edward_Gibson #Eric_Martinez
