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  1. Apologetics: Monthly Mormon Monday – Joe Smith’s Whacky First Vision.

    Behold! It came to pass that it hast been 6 months since last I wrote of The Book of Mormon, and verily, it came to pass that I began to wonder what to write of for this week, and truly, a Mormon did come into my comments section to tell me what a beauteous religion Mormonism is, and it came to pass that my interest long put on the burner on the back of the stove was once more rekindled in this topic strange.

    Hence this post.

    There are several directions I can go with Mormonism, such as disproving the idea that it’s a Christian religion, but right now, I want to focus on the history of Joseph Smith’s first revelation, or the First Vision. Every Mormon knows this story. Basically, when Joe was 14, he went to a grove near his family home in New York where he knelt down and prayed, wanting to know what church the true church was. He was then overcome by some dark power but was delivered when God the Father and Jesus Christ appeared and told him not to go to any church, as all of them had been corrupted. This of course was a major event, marking the young Joseph Smith as a prophet of God who would later start the LDS church.

    But that version of the story is the standard version written on April 1, 1842. There are eight more versions, all of them with massive contradictions.

    In a version of the story written in 1832 by Joseph Smith himself, he records himself to have been 16 years old when he was visited by Jesus alone, and was forgiven of his sins. In this version, he already knew all the churches were wrong and only prayed for the forgiveness of his sins.

    In the second version written in 1835, Joseph Smith gave an account of the First Vision to a dude named Oliver Cowdry, saying that he was 17, was only praying to see if God was real, and was visited not by Jesus, not by God, but by a messenger of God. Who this messenger was, we have no clue, but he forgave Joe’s sins. But as though that wasn’t bad enough, that same year, Smith wrote a diary entry recording this event (third version), but said that many angels visited him, not Jesus and God. This diary entry was also the first time the evil power was ever mentioned.

    Then, two years later, a fourth version was written, and while this is a third-hand account, it still messes up on key details, saying Smith was 17 and that the visitors were angels. It also makes no mention of the (supposed) revival that was going on that caused Smith to start (supposedly) wondering what church to be a part of. Similarly, in an 1841 third-hand account that was originally given to the writer by Smith’s brother, Smith was 17 and “glorious angel” came to visit him, not God or Jesus.

    A year after the 1841 version, Smith then wrote in a letter to John Wentworth about the First Vision. In this version, he doesn’t give his age, doesn’t speak of the dark force that overtook him, and says he was visited by two personages, but they’re identified. A year after that, in 1843, he told the Pittsburgh Gazette his story, but says he was 14 and – once again – never mentions the dark power.

    Then, in an 1844 journal entry by Alexander Niebaur, the First Vision story is largely the same as the standard version, but in this version, Joe was simply told not to join the Methodists. He wasn’t told that all the churches were corrupt.

    So which one is the right version?

    Well, that’s the question that Mormons have to struggle with as all of these accounts differ greatly from each other on key points. Was it an angel, God and Jesus, or multiple angels that visited Joseph Smith? Was he 14, 16, or 17 when it happened? Was he overtaken by a dark spirit and delivered or not? Was he praying for forgiveness of sins, praying to know if God is real, or praying to know which church to attend? Was he forgiven of sins, told all churches were corrupt, or only told that the Methodists were corrupt? Which story should the Mormons believe if there are so many discrepancies coming from credible sources, including Smith himself?

    Until next time,

    M.J.

    #Apologetics #Blog #Christianity #faith #god #history #jesus #JosephSmith #LatterDaySaints #LDS #Mormon #Mormonism #OpinionPeice #Writing
  2. Associated Press: Mormon leader decries explosion in sports betting, prediction markets. “A leader of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints warned Saturday that an explosion in gambling driven by online prediction markets and sports betting is fostering greed, particularly among youths, while producing ‘nothing of value.'”

    https://rbfirehose.com/2026/10/05/associated-press-mormon-leader-decries-explosion-in-sports-betting-prediction-markets/
  3. The Censor Keeps a Copy

    Twenty years ago, give or take, a friend told me a story he expected me to admire. He was a Latter-day Saint who worked in technology, and he was, as I understood it then, the bishop of his ward, an unpaid office the church gives to laymen who keep their day jobs, so he kept a company's hours all week and presided over a congregation on Sundays. There was a Mormon bookstore he went into often, and one day he walked in and found a new display for Goosebumps, the paperbacks with the dripping green logo about haunted masks, a ventriloquist's dummy with a mind of its own, and a werewolf in a Florida swamp. He spoke to the owner. The owner told him the books were selling well and that those sales were keeping the store alive. My friend pressed him on content, judged the whole series blasphemous, an invitation to the occult at a child's price, and let it be understood that if the titles stayed on the shelf a report would go to the stake president. A week later he came back. The books were gone, the owner was distant and cold, and my friend bought a couple of books, in his own phrase, to make up the difference. He told me this the way another man might tell you he had coached his kid's team to a championship. He was proud. The word I have settled on, twenty years later, is forensic: he had investigated, prosecuted, and won, and he walked out of that store on the high of it. […]

    bolesblogs.com/2026/09/05/the-

  4. Hype for the Future 248B: Susquehanna County, Pennsylvania

    Overview Susquehanna County is a notable rural county in Northeast Pennsylvania home to the Boroughs of Forest City, Friendsville, Great Bend, Hallstead, Hop Bottom, Lanesboro, Little Meadows, Montrose (county seat), New Milford, Oakland, Susquehanna Depot, Thompson, and Union Dale and the Townships of Apolacon, Ararat, Auburn, Bridgewater, Brooklyn, Choconut, Clifford, Dimock, Forest Lake, Franklin, Gibson, Great Bend, Harford, Harmony, Herrick, Jackson, Jessup, Lathrop, Lenox, Liberty, […]

    novatopflex.wordpress.com/2026

  5. Salt Lake Tribune: New database unlocks the history of an LDS congregation unlike any other. “From 1880 to 1966, more than a thousand of these Indigenous members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints found ways to blend their Native identities with the young faith. In doing so, they left behind thousands of records — photos, letters, maps, personal histories and more — now all […]

    https://rbfirehose.com/2026/06/01/salt-lake-tribune-new-database-unlocks-the-history-of-an-lds-congregation-unlike-any-other/
  6. Associated Press: ‘Secret Lives of Mormon Wives’ cast aren’t the only influencers sowing curiosity about the church. “Until quite recently, the prevailing image to outsiders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has been male missionaries wearing white shirts and name tags, evoked by the hit Broadway show ‘The Book of Mormon.’ But another unofficial face of the male-led […]

    https://rbfirehose.com/2026/04/03/associated-press-secret-lives-of-mormon-wives-cast-arent-the-only-influencers-sowing-curiosity-about-the-church/
  7. Hype for the Future 133LDS: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints

    Introduction Though Joseph Smith was originally born within the boundaries of the State of Vermont, his experiences within the upper New York region had resulted in the eventual formation of the LDS Church, thus forming the modern-day concept of Mormonism. After New York, the historic sites associated with Joseph Smith had pushed increasingly westward, from a site in Harmony (now known as Oakland), Pennsylvania, west to sites in Kirtland, Ohio, followed by Nauvoo, Illinois. After being […]

    novatopflex.wordpress.com/2026

  8. i shouldn't start fights with protestants online but...

    the author of revelation had very little idea of what would be in the christian bible.

    he cannot be talking about adding or taking away from the bible.

    he's talking specifically about the book of revelation. revelation 22:18-19 can't be referring to the #christian bible which did not exist yet.

    not to be #mormon on main, but #LatterDaySaints are correct about this. i'm standing ten toes down.

  9. i honestly avoid some ex-mormon content too. they have every right to tell their story in their words. but sometimes they treat things i believe as inherently stupid and say things like "why would anyone (or worse, "a Black person") ever believe this?" they are always white. who are you, again?

    #CommunityofChrist history with race is different, better imho, but it isn't great in regards to the treatment of Black saints. Early #Black #LatterDaySaints are awesome & their storys should be told!

  10. Today I learned of Jared Birchall, a devout Mormon who runs Musk's "family office". His duties include bullying women into accepting the NDAs of his free speech absolutist boss.

    I wonder if it has been revealed to the LDS that polygamy is once gain permissible, as long as one is a billionaire.

    The Tactics Elon Musk Uses to Manage His ‘Legion’ of Babies—and Their Mothers - WSJ

    wsj.com/politics/elon-musk-chi

    #USPolitics #ElonMusk #LatterDaySaints #Mormons

  11. Happy Restoration Day!

    Let us continue to bring forth the great and marvelous work of building Zion, God's peaceable kingdom, which is for this time, and all time!

    #April6 #mormon #LatterDaySaints

  12. @religion
    @scifi

    if anyone is in need of community. i help run a #StarTrek group for my church. we look for the "Enduring Principles" and themes of Religion and Spirituality in Star Trek.

    the Enduring Principles are a #CommunityOfChrist thing. major crossover with secular humanistic principles.

    we meet Saturdays at 8 EST.

    we're are lgbtq affirming (and led currently)

    #ProgressiveChristianity #StarTrek yes we are a sect of #LatterDaySaints . there are many different traditions

  13. Trump totally dismissed the Latter-Day -Saints.

    #LatterDaySaints Harris for President. :clapping: 😂

  14. #Mormons #LatterDaySaints #SexualAbuse #California
    "In all, the lawsuits accuse 97 former Mormon leaders and church members of child sexual abuse ...."

    Mormon Church faces 91 child sex abuse lawsuits in California

    "FLOODLIT.org has learned of a new wave of 91 child sex abuse lawsuits filed against The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in California."
    floodlit.org/100-lawsuits-cali

  15. CW: religion

    bonus surprise: WC is putting the other missing/removed sections back in. no more scriptural memory hole!

    it means a lot to me for the church to recognize that as a mistake. my current D&C only has the number and is like, "section was moved to the appendix in X year and the appendix was removed in Y year" so you know something was there but have to really research to know what it was

    #LatterDaySaint #LatterDaySaints #Mormon (they don't like the term either but the tag is what it is)

  16. Today the #Church of #JesusChrist of #LatterdaySaints is widely understood to be a #rightwing force in #USpolitics. But just over 100 years ago, #Mormons were at the center of a #religious #socialist renaissance in #Utah.

  17. I don't know why anyone thinks it's acceptable to stick religious junk mail in the door of MY HOME with a message about MY FAMILY.

    But if anyone out there feels compelled to discuss (or debate or decry or insult) religion with a total fucking stranger, please don't hesitate to call or text the presumptuous trespasser at +81-(0)80-9037-9160.

    #LatterDaySaints #Religion #FreePhoneNumber

    #KnockKnock
    #WhosThere
    #Jesus
    #JesusWho #JesusFuckingChristStayAwayFromMyHouse

  18. not the sermon coming for my #telestial bound behind, lmao.

    the person giving the talk was like, "don't do the bare minimum. yeah, you can go to heaven, but we want to be in the presence of God".

    how do we do that.

    keeping each other accountable and upholding our covenants.

    this is theologically sound. old school, but scriptural supported.

    but...

    sir, you can't just rip of "think celestial" from LDS President RMN and present it as something new, lol. /j

    #Mormon #LatterDaySaints

  19. @rfm

    hey fellow #BIPOC #Mormon / #LatterDaySaints

    what from the #BookofMormon speaks to #RacialJustice or Injustice that were difficult or comforting. built your faith or hurt it?

    also doing a assignment in Temple School on #Racist implications in 2 Nephi 4:27-39 (1908 AV) 2 N. 5:18-25 (LDS) in the BookOf #Mormon. I analyze it using tools we learned & church guidelines on interpreting scripture responsibly. i love them so much.imo liberating🌈

    #BlackMastodon

    pls rb for reach/no pressure

  20. this morning in one of my church groups, we all agreed we need to be more accepting of the polygamous saints. which is controversial for josephite saints.

    bc it's in isolation that abuses flourish. making polygamy itself illegal likely contributes to underage marriages. also we are related and running away from the fact that there is a connection between polygamy and #mormonism isn't good for any of us

    #LatterDaySaints

  21. @religion @religiousstudies

    cool academic lecture on angels live right now (12/12/2023, 7 EST). i am really enjoying it, currently talking about nephilim and the "sons of God" in the book of Genesis.

    youtube.com/watch?v=R-Yy91rHTd

    #christianity #christian #LatterDaySaint #Mormon (not mormon specific but, as #LatterDaySaints , we may cover angels in #Mormonism as well)

  22. @religion

    I warmly invite you to join us at #CommunityOfChrist 's Beyond the Walls service.

    Today we begin a series going through our 9 Enduring Principles. Today's Enduring Principle is "All Are Called"

    I am the minister giving the sermon today.

    Join us at 6 PM EST at youtube.com/watch?v=fQDD4Iv8D1

    #Christianity #LatterDaySaint #LatterDaySaints

  23. you're welcome to join me for church today!

    we're just getting started.

    youtube.com/live/DlmeCmRLcv8?s

    Topic: Courage to Live God's Will

    #Christianity #LatterDaySaints

  24. was conversing with some community of christ members this morning. the church sends out a scripture based message every day that we go over it together.

    sometimes we don't even get to it and discuss something else.

    i brought up that I and some other progressive #LatterDaySaints believe and interpret from the D&C that Emma was ordained and had all the keys to the Priesthood. and a lot of them were like "yes, she had the keys and was ordained."

    i stand by that, and propagate it.

    #mormonism

  25. @jewterpretor It's okay! Actually, a lot of what modern neopaganisms inherited from the ceremonial magic traditions was, ahem, *heavily inspired* by Freemasonry. It's why I always feel like #LatterDaySaints are my spiritual cousins.

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