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Iris Murdoch in an undated black and white photo by Cecil Beaton https://library.hrmtc.com/2026/07/09/iris-murdoch-in-an-undated-black-and-white-photo-by-cecil-beaton/ #hermeneuticon #iconomancy #IrisMurdoch -
The Epistemology of Love: From Lust to Truth
Claude, interpret these two sayings of mine form all angles and philosophical and religious views and tradtions, including Advaita, social sciences such as sociology, psychology, history, anthropolgy and what have you:
“Love is one way to conquer lust. Actually, love is a good and pleasant way to conquer many evils in ourselves. Never ever underestimate love, not even romantic love.”
“To begin to understand love is to begin to understand the truth.”
Claude’s Interpretation
These two sayings reward slow unpacking, because each one quietly reverses a common assumption — the first, that lust must be fought by suppression; the second, that truth is grasped by intellect alone. Let me take them through the traditions.
The first saying: love as conqueror
Spinoza gives the cleanest philosophical warrant for your claim. In the Ethics he argues that an emotion cannot be destroyed by reason alone, but only by a stronger, contrary emotion. Willpower against lust is a losing battle of thought against affect; love against lust is affect against affect, and the stronger one wins. Your aphorism is practically a restatement of Ethics IV, Prop. 7 — except you’ve added the warm human observation that this method is also pleasant, which Spinoza, in his geometrical austerity, forgot to mention.
Augustine would go further: lust isn’t the opposite of love but its disorder — cupiditas is love bent toward the wrong object or grasped in the wrong way. His ordo amoris implies that you don’t eliminate a disordered love; you reorder it. So love doesn’t so much conquer lust as reclaim it — the energy was love’s all along, misdirected. This is why suppression fails: you’re attacking the raw material of the cure.
Plato’s Symposium dignifies your defense of romantic love. Diotima’s ladder begins with eros for one beautiful body — the most carnal rung — and ascends without ever rejecting the lower rungs, only widening them: one body, all bodies, beautiful souls, beautiful institutions, Beauty itself. Romantic love isn’t the enemy of transcendence; it’s the on-ramp. Your “never underestimate romantic love” is Diotima against the prudes.
The Sufi tradition — closest to your ghazal world — makes this doctrine explicit: ishq-e-majāzī (metaphorical, human love) is the bridge to ishq-e-haqīqī (real, divine love). The Persian and Urdu poets insist the beloved’s face is where the aspirant first learns single-pointedness, self-forgetting, and the sweetness of annihilation. Rumi’s whole corpus is the claim that romantic love, taken seriously enough, self-transcends. Ghalib plays both registers in a single couplet precisely because the boundary is porous.
Buddhism supplies the psychological mechanics. The Buddha prescribed mettā as the direct antidote (pratipakṣa) to ill-will, and the tradition generalizes: each defilement has a wholesome counter-state that occupies the same mental territory. Lust and mettā cannot fully co-occupy a moment of mind, because lust grasps at the object for oneself while love wishes well toward the object for its own sake. The object may be the same; the vector reverses. That said, Buddhism would append a caution to your aphorism: love that curdles back into attachment (sneha, tṛṣṇā) merely refines the fetter. The love that conquers must keep its non-grasping character — which leads naturally to your second saying.
Bhakti and Vaishnava thought are perhaps your strongest allies. The gopīs‘ love for Krishna is deliberately depicted in erotic register — the tradition’s point being that even kāma, when its object becomes the divine, is transmuted into the highest devotion. Narada’s Bhakti Sutras rank madhura bhāva — the lover’s mood — as the most intense form of devotion. The energy of eros is not the problem; its terminus is.
Psychology converges from below. Freud called it sublimation, but the more interesting finding is from attachment research and behavioral science: vice is rarely extinguished by inhibition (which depletes) but by substitution — a competing reward that engages the same motivational circuitry. Compulsive lust is often, clinically, a failed search for connection; supply the connection and the compulsion loses its fuel. Neurochemically, the shift from lust to pair-bonded love (Helen Fisher’s dopamine-to-oxytocin/vasopressin arc) is literally the brain’s own method of conquering lust by love — evolution agreed with your aphorism before you wrote it.
Sociology and history show the same logic at civilizational scale. Norbert Elias’s “civilizing process” and the medieval invention of courtly love both testify that societies domesticate raw appetite not by prohibition (which produces the underworld) but by ennobling narratives — troubadour love turned the knight’s aggression and lust into service, patience, refinement. Durkheim would say love integrates where lust isolates: lust is anomic, love is solidary.
The dissenting bench, since you’d want it: classical monastic traditions — Theravāda, desert Christianity, and frankly a strand of traditional Advaitic sannyāsa — would say your aphorism is dangerous for the beginner, because “conquering lust with love” is exactly the rationalization the mind offers when it wants to keep the beloved. Their answer: for most people, romantic love doesn’t sublimate lust, it launders it. The aphorism is true, they’d concede, but only for one in whom love has already become largely non-appropriative. It’s advanced medicine mislabeled as first aid. I think the objection has force as a matter of adhikāra — the saying describes what love can do, not what every love does.
The second saying: love as epistemology
This is the deeper of the two, and here Advaita becomes the natural home.
In Advaita, the equation is not metaphorical. Brahman is sat-cit-ānanda, and ānanda — bliss, which in lived experience appears as love — is not an attribute of the real but its very nature. Ramana Maharshi said it flatly: “God is love; love is not a quality of God but God Himself” — and more precisely, that the happiness we seek in every beloved object is the Self shining through the momentary stilling of the mind that possession produces. So when you begin to understand love — to trace it to its source rather than its objects — you are performing vicāra on ānanda itself, and vicāra on ānanda terminates in the Self, i.e., in truth. The Bṛhadāraṇyaka’s teaching to Maitreyī is the locus classicus: na vā are patyuḥ kāmāya patiḥ priyo bhavati, ātmanas tu kāmāya — the husband is dear not for the husband’s sake but for the sake of the Self. Yājñavalkya isn’t debunking love; he’s disclosing its true referent. Every love is love of the Self, misaddressed. To understand love is therefore to discover what is actually loved in all loving — and that discovery is the truth Advaita points to.
Nisargadatta’s famous formulation completes it: “Wisdom tells me I am nothing. Love tells me I am everything. Between these two, my life flows.” Love and truth are not two attainments but the two faces of one realization — jñāna seen from the side of fullness.
Western philosophy has a minority report that agrees. Augustine: we can only know what we love — non intratur in veritatem nisi per caritatem, one does not enter truth except through love. Pascal: the heart has reasons reason knows not; the heart is an organ of knowledge, not merely sentiment. Max Scheler built an entire epistemology on this: love is the movement that discloses value; perception follows love, not the reverse — we literally cannot see what we do not in some way love. And Iris Murdoch, the most underrated modern voice here: love is “the extremely difficult realization that something other than oneself is real.” That sentence is your aphorism in analytic English — the discipline of truly attending to another person is the same discipline as truthfulness, because both require the ego to stop projecting. Her term “unselfing” is practically a translation of ahaṃkāra-nivṛtti.
Simone Weil sharpened it further: absolutely unmixed attention is prayer, and love of neighbor in its fullness simply means being able to ask “What are you going through?” and actually wait for the answer. Truth-seeking and loving turn out to be the same act — attention purified of self-interest. This is why lust obscures truth (it sees only its own hunger reflected in the other) while love reveals it (it sees the other as they are). Your two sayings are thus secretly one saying: love conquers lust because love is veridical and lust is hallucinatory.
Psychology again: attachment theory finds that secure love is the precondition for accurate perception — the securely attached child explores reality confidently; the anxiously attached one distorts it through the lens of threat. Carl Rogers observed that unconditional positive regard is what allows a person to finally see themselves truly. Love doesn’t just feel good; it is the interpersonal condition under which truth becomes bearable, and therefore knowable. Anthropologically, every culture’s deepest truth-rituals — confession, testimony before elders, deathbed reconciliation — are staged inside relationships of love or trust, never in neutral space. Humanity seems to have always known that truth-telling and love are load-bearing for each other.
One Advaitic refinement worth making, in your own idiom: the saying holds at both registers. Vyāvahārically, understanding love (its neediness, its projections, its capacity for selflessness) is the fastest self-inquiry available to a householder — nothing exposes the machinery of ahaṃkāra like loving someone. Pāramārthically, love understood to the very bottom turns out to have no lover and no beloved — only the ānanda of the Self appearing as two. “To begin to understand love is to begin to understand the truth” is exact: it is a beginning, because love fully understood no longer looks like a relation at all. The dvaita of lover and beloved is love’s doorway; its interior is advaita.
If I were to press on the aphorisms at all, it would be here: the first saying uses the word “conquer,” which is the vocabulary of the very willfulness the saying is abandoning. Love doesn’t conquer lust the way an army conquers territory; it conquers the way light conquers darkness — by presence, not combat. You might consider whether “dissolve” or “absorb” is truer to your own meaning. But as aphorisms go, “conquer” has the rhetorical virtue of meeting the moralist on his own battlefield and disarming him — so perhaps the word earns its keep.
Taken together, the two sayings form a small, complete teaching: the first is the sādhana, the second is the phala. Love as method; love as disclosure. Half the world’s traditions would sign the first, the deeper half would sign the second, and Advaita, characteristically, would sign both and then add that the signer, the signature, and the love were never three things.
#AdvaitaVedanta #ananda #aphorisms #Augustine #Bhakti #IrisMurdoch #Love #Lust #NisargadattaMaharaj #PhilosophyOfLove #Plato #RamanaMaharshi #RomanticLove #SelfInquiry #SimoneWeil #spinoza #Spirituality #sublimation #Sufism #Truth -
Hooray - latest episode of the #IrisMurdoch podcast is out - featuring me! https://soundcloud.com/user-548804258/iris-murdochs-world-cup
If you don't have a Soundcloud account, you should be able to find it on all your usual podcast apps.
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This was one of her crazy absurd farces, by the way. Meant to be 'dark' but so much gothic that it turned funny, most of the time meant so I'm sure, but not always. Still I enjoyed myself. That was because of the perspective she chose: a bunch of crazy acting family members, entangled in affairs and jealousy, are discribed by a very naive and 'good' sort of narrator, a visitor, who stumbles in, then becomes part of the trainwreck. She has mercy with their endings. #bookstodon #IrisMurdoch
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Two women who understood that the deepest failures of human life are not failures of will. Clarice Lispector and Iris Murdoch
https://medium.com/the-poets-corner/as-thin-as-a-slice-of-light-187d25585ac0
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An Occasion for Unselfing: Iris Murdoch on Imperfection and How to Be More Unselfish
https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://www.themarginalian.org/2026/04/28/iris-murdoch-unselfing/
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An Occasion for Unselfing: Iris Murdoch on Imperfection and How to Be More Unselfish
https://web.brid.gy/r/https://www.themarginalian.org/2026/04/28/iris-murdoch-unselfing/
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In my latest paper, I develop a comparative study of Iris Murdoch’s moral philosophy through the lens of phenomenology, Platonic ethics, and critiques of modern selfhood. The essay argues that morality begins in perception, where clear vision becomes the foundation of justice and love.
Published on Research Gate:
https://lnkd.in/df3gSXvaThe third in the series of papers comparing seemingly opposite philosopical streams.
#philosophy #irismurdoch #edmundhusserl #simoneweil #reductionism
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In my latest paper, I develop a comparative study of Iris Murdoch’s moral philosophy through the lens of phenomenology, Platonic ethics, and critiques of modern selfhood. The essay argues that morality begins in perception, where clear vision becomes the foundation of justice and love.
Published on Research Gate:
https://lnkd.in/df3gSXvaThe third in the series of papers comparing seemingly opposite philosopical streams.
#philosophy #irismurdoch #edmundhusserl #simoneweil #reductionism
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‘I am a severed head such as primitive tribes and old alchemists used to use...'
I reviewed 'A Severed Head' by #IrisMurdoch for the #1961Club and #IrisMurdoch26
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‘I am a severed head such as primitive tribes and old alchemists used to use...'
I reviewed 'A Severed Head' by #IrisMurdoch for the #1961Club and #IrisMurdoch26
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How to See More Clearly and Love More Purely: Iris Murdoch on the Angst of Not Knowing Ourselves and Each Other
https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://www.themarginalian.org/2026/04/12/iris-murdoch-imagination/
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How to See More Clearly and Love More Purely: Iris Murdoch on the Angst of Not Knowing Ourselves and Each Other
https://web.brid.gy/r/https://www.themarginalian.org/2026/04/12/iris-murdoch-imagination/
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1 Current read: Discognition by #SteveShaviro (so far, it’s excellent) 2 The Making of the Atomic Bomb by #RichardRhodes 3 TBD; probably Authors of the Impossible: The Paranormal and the Sacred by #JeffreyJKripal 4 Bruno’s Dream by #IrisMurdoch #books #BookSky
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1 Current read: Discognition by #SteveShaviro (so far, it’s excellent) 2 The Making of the Atomic Bomb by #RichardRhodes 3 TBD; probably Authors of the Impossible: The Paranormal and the Sacred by #JeffreyJKripal 4 Bruno’s Dream by #IrisMurdoch #books #BookSky
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Just put my abstract in for the 2026 international Iris Murdoch conference …
The railways of Iris Murdoch 🤩 #IrisMurdoch
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“The #novelist #IrisMurdoch, whose lengthy, involved, brilliant #novels are probably the kind of thing most people don’t read any more, understood #attention better than most.” Well, I know some people who still read her. Otherwise this piece on our #attentiondeficit by #MarkKingwell is very good.
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“The #novelist #IrisMurdoch, whose lengthy, involved, brilliant #novels are probably the kind of thing most people don’t read any more, understood #attention better than most.” Well, I know some people who still read her. Otherwise this piece on our #attentiondeficit by #MarkKingwell is very good.
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Moral Mysteries | The Point Magazine
https://thepointmag.com/criticism/moral-mysteries/
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Moral Mysteries | The Point Magazine
https://thepointmag.com/criticism/moral-mysteries/
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My #best reads list for 2025 was, well, hopelessly #eclectic: #CharlesTaylor, #ManueldeLanda, #VaclavSmil, #PhilipKDick, #IrisMurdoch, #AlisdairMacIntyre, #JamesCScott, #HPLovecraft, etc #books #BookSky #BestReads #fiction #nonfiction #reading doncurren.blogspot.com/2026/01/five...
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My #best reads list for 2025 was, well, hopelessly #eclectic: #CharlesTaylor, #ManueldeLanda, #VaclavSmil, #PhilipKDick, #IrisMurdoch, #AlisdairMacIntyre, #JamesCScott, #HPLovecraft, etc #books #BookSky #BestReads #fiction #nonfiction #reading doncurren.blogspot.com/2026/01/five...
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Here it is - a couple of days late and a little wonkier than I'd planned. My list of the most notable #books I read in 2025. #BookSky #reading #fiction #nonfiction #novels #sciencefiction #PhilipKDick #IrisMurdoch #CharlesTaylor #ManueldeLanda #Canadianbooks doncurren.blogspot.com/2026/01/five...
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Here it is - a couple of days late and a little wonkier than I'd planned. My list of the most notable #books I read in 2025. #BookSky #reading #fiction #nonfiction #novels #sciencefiction #PhilipKDick #IrisMurdoch #CharlesTaylor #ManueldeLanda #Canadianbooks doncurren.blogspot.com/2026/01/five...
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Enjoyed listening to #StartTheWeek today, especially as it had a section on the recently published book of #IrisMurdoch poems🤩
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The Conversation: How I found an unexpected connection to science in the works of Iris Murdoch – by a molecular biophysicist. “So far, I’ve used ten out of Murdoch’s 26 novels to illustrate topics as broad as alcoholism and its effect on the liver, sex hormone signalling, evolution, molecular crowding and electron microscopy.”
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The Conversation: How I found an unexpected connection to science in the works of Iris Murdoch – by a molecular biophysicist. “So far, I’ve used ten out of Murdoch’s 26 novels to illustrate topics as broad as alcoholism and its effect on the liver, sex hormone signalling, evolution, molecular crowding and electron microscopy.”
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I’m reading (just starting) The Sea, The Sea by #IrisMurdoch. #books #BookSky
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I’m reading (just starting) The Sea, The Sea by #IrisMurdoch. #books #BookSky
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Ida Kar, Iris Murdoch, July 15, 1919 – February 8, 1999
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Ida Kar, Iris Murdoch, July 15, 1919 – February 8, 1999
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Ah, Aeon Essays strikes again with a piece that’s 3,100 words long but can be summarized as "Love, not rules, because... reasons." 💤 Apparently, Iris Murdoch’s #philosophy is all about ignoring our massive egos, but who has time for that when there are so many rules to break? 🍿
https://aeon.co/essays/for-iris-murdoch-morality-is-about-love-not-duties-and-rules #AeonEssays #LoveNotRules #IrisMurdoch #BreakTheRules #ThoughtProvoking #HackerNews #ngated -
Ah, Aeon Essays strikes again with a piece that’s 3,100 words long but can be summarized as "Love, not rules, because... reasons." 💤 Apparently, Iris Murdoch’s #philosophy is all about ignoring our massive egos, but who has time for that when there are so many rules to break? 🍿
https://aeon.co/essays/for-iris-murdoch-morality-is-about-love-not-duties-and-rules #AeonEssays #LoveNotRules #IrisMurdoch #BreakTheRules #ThoughtProvoking #HackerNews #ngated -
This very good piece on the #moral #philosophy of #IrisMurdoch (linked to below) makes me feel guilty about booting one of her #books off my most notable books I read in 2024 list in my recent mea culpa re that list - linked to here: doncurren.blogspot.com/2025/08/mid-...
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This very good piece on the #moral #philosophy of #IrisMurdoch (linked to below) makes me feel guilty about booting one of her #books off my most notable books I read in 2024 list in my recent mea culpa re that list - linked to here: doncurren.blogspot.com/2025/08/mid-...
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“Murdoch suggests that the #ego makes it difficult to properly attend to one another. We often fail to see others adequately because the ego gets in the way and obstructs or distorts such vision.” #IrisMurdoch #love #attention #morality #philosophy aeon.co/essays/for-i...
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“Murdoch suggests that the #ego makes it difficult to properly attend to one another. We often fail to see others adequately because the ego gets in the way and obstructs or distorts such vision.” #IrisMurdoch #love #attention #morality #philosophy aeon.co/essays/for-i...
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“The #philosopher and #novelist #IrisMurdoch, however, insists that #love is not only morally relevant, but absolutely central to #morality.” aeon.co/essays/for-i...
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“The #philosopher and #novelist #IrisMurdoch, however, insists that #love is not only morally relevant, but absolutely central to #morality.” aeon.co/essays/for-i...
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I think, therefore I am.
VS: We dream, therefore the world unravels.-> Exploring how imagination reconstructs existence through decentralized systems and radical self-authorship.
Pairs well with Imagination: A manifesto by @ruha9
#ExistentialAnarchy #Philosophy #Existentialism #Anarchism #Descartes #Stoicism #IrisMurdoch #EmergentSystems #Poetry #imagination #dream
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Had a cracking couple of days in London:
1) visiting for the final time #ViolasRoom the current #punchdrunk show in Woolwich
2) meeting my best pal for tea
3) spending the day with the best of Parliament (Librarians of course)
4) watching a screening of the #Iris film with an intro and discussion afterwards at the BFI about #IrisMurdoch
5) meeting up with @rachelcoldicutt for a long overdue catchup
Incredible!
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Wedi creu “Her Darllen" arall ar @StoryGraph ar gyfer nofelau #IrisMurdoch, wrth i fi ddechrau ar ei nofel gyntaf, Under The Net (1954)
https://app.thestorygraph.com/reading_challenges/0a638ba5-63ad-4700-889a-ec1323e85ad6
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I found a second hand copy of Iris Murdoch's The Nice and The Good. Here is my #Review
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"One of the secrets of a happy life is continuous small treats, and if some of these can be inexpensive and quickly procured so much the better."
On her birthday, 10 quotes from Iris Murdoch:
https://topicaltens.blogspot.com/2024/07/15-july-iris-murdoch-quotes.html
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This passage from Nikhil Krishnan’s A Terribly Serious Adventure: Philosophy at Oxford 1900-1960 (pg 213-214) captures something I’ve thought about a lot in relation to the reception of Margaret Archer’s work on reflexivity, particularly how its sensitivity to the utterly quotidian tends to be missed by many sociological critics:
When Murdoch’s book on Sartre was published, a barber line of hers comparing Sartre’s world to Ryle’s became justly famous. The Concepts of Mind, she said, evoked a picture of a world ‘in which people play cricket, cook cakes, make simple decisions, remember their childhood and go to the circus; not the world in which they commit sins, fall in love, say prayers or join the Communist party’. At the time, it seemed like a comparison much to Ryle’s disfavour; but the statement is in fact distinctly ambivalent. If something was missing from Ryle’s world, perhaps something was missing from Sartre’s, too. What sort of life would it be where we lurched from a meeting of the Free French to a secret transaction with a backstreet abortionist to violent sex in a seedy hotel but never baked a cake, looked back to a childhood birthday party or went to the circus?
(Incidentally, I’ve been thinking a lot recently about how clearly Charles Taylor has stated the influence of Iris Murdoch on his thought, yet how rarely that figures in narratives of either of them)
#charlesTaylor #everydayLife #IrisMurdoch #lifeworld #margaretArcher #reflexivity #sartre
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Got a busy day, first, a blue plaque unveiling for #IrisMurdoch followed by a work trip to Parliament, followed by a trip to see #punchdrunk ‘s latest - The Viola Room
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It's #Shakespeare 's birthday #otd (probably).
Iris Murdoch on basing aesthetics, not on definitions, but on the concrete.
"let us start by saying that Shakespeare is the greatest of all artists, and let our aesthetic grow to be the philosophical justification of this judgement."
https://www.irishphilosophy.com/2016/04/23/shakespeare-aesthetics-and-morality/
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New post on the wonderful podcast by the Iris Murdoch Society on the day after (sorry) the 25th anniversary of Iris Murdoch's death #otd 1999
Remembering Iris: The Iris Murdoch Podcast
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#MarcChagall
Les Arums
1949"We live in a fantasy world, a world of illusion.
The great task in life is to find reality."
#IrisMurdoch