#ingroup — Public Fediverse posts
Live and recent posts from across the Fediverse tagged #ingroup, aggregated by home.social.
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A quotation from Olivia Butler
I wanted to understand the lies that people have to tell themselves when they either quietly or joyfully watch their neighbors ruined, spirited away, killed. Different versions of this horror have happened again and again in history. They’re still happening in places like Rwanda, Bosnia, Kosovo and East Timor, wherever one group of people permits its leaders to convince them that for their own protection, for the safety of their families and the security of their country, they must get their enemies, those alien others who until now were their neighbors.
Octavia Butler (1947-2006) American writer
Essay (2000-05), “A Few Rules for Predicting the Future,” Essence MagazineMore about this quote: wist.info/butler-octavia/83955…
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #oliviabutler #aliens #demagoguery #enemies #ethniccleansing #genocide #ingroup #leaders #looktheotherway #lying #othering #outgroup #pogrom #propaganda #protection #safety #scapegoat #security #selfdeceit #selfdeception #usvsthem
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It is important not to confuse nationalism with mere worship of success. The nationalist does not go on the principle of simply ganging up with the strongest side. On the contrary, having picked his side, he persuades himself that it is the strongest, and is able to stick to his belief even when the facts are overwhelmingly against him. Nationalism is power-hunger tempered by self-deception. Every nationalist is capable of the most flagrant dishonesty, but he is also — since he is conscious of serving something bigger than himself — unshakably certain of being in the right.
George Orwell (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]
Essay (1945-05), “Notes on Nationalism,” Polemic Magazine (1945-10)More about this quote: wist.info/orwell-george/45922/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #orwell #georgeorwell #ingroup #nationalism #nationalist #powerhungry #powerseeking #righteousness #selfdeceit #selfdeception #selfrighteousness #strength #takesides #takingsides #tribalism #usvsthem
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It is important not to confuse nationalism with mere worship of success. The nationalist does not go on the principle of simply ganging up with the strongest side. On the contrary, having picked his side, he persuades himself that it is the strongest, and is able to stick to his belief even when the facts are overwhelmingly against him. Nationalism is power-hunger tempered by self-deception. Every nationalist is capable of the most flagrant dishonesty, but he is also — since he is conscious of serving something bigger than himself — unshakably certain of being in the right.
George Orwell (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]
Essay (1945-05), “Notes on Nationalism,” Polemic Magazine (1945-10)More about this quote: wist.info/orwell-george/45922/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #orwell #georgeorwell #ingroup #nationalism #nationalist #powerhungry #powerseeking #righteousness #selfdeceit #selfdeception #selfrighteousness #strength #takesides #takingsides #tribalism #usvsthem
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A quotation from George Orwell
By “nationalism” I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labeled “good” or “bad.” But secondly — and this is much more important — I mean the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognizing no other duty than that of advancing its interests.
George Orwell (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]
Essay (1945-05), “Notes on Nationalism,” Polemic Magazine (1945-10)More about this quote: wist.info/orwell-george/16966/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #orwell #georgeorwell #civicduty #classification #devotion #duty #evil #good #goodandevil #ingroup #jingoism #moralduty #nation #nationalism #nationality #outgroup #population #racism #stereotype #tribalism #usvsthem
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A quotation from George Orwell
By “nationalism” I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labeled “good” or “bad.” But secondly — and this is much more important — I mean the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognizing no other duty than that of advancing its interests.
George Orwell (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]
Essay (1945-05), “Notes on Nationalism,” Polemic Magazine (1945-10)More about this quote: wist.info/orwell-george/16966/
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #orwell #georgeorwell #civicduty #classification #devotion #duty #evil #good #goodandevil #ingroup #jingoism #moralduty #nation #nationalism #nationality #outgroup #population #racism #stereotype #tribalism #usvsthem
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Om Malik: "As the technology industry became the cultural zeitgeist, it became necessary to advertise to the world that you were part of the tech set. And the easiest way to do so was through a uniform."
What Malik fails to note in this article is that dress has always signalled that you belong to the group:
"Grey suited business men pissing against the wall."It is just, in this time of individual truth, it is more insidious.
#conformity #nonconformity #ingroup -
Om Malik: "As the technology industry became the cultural zeitgeist, it became necessary to advertise to the world that you were part of the tech set. And the easiest way to do so was through a uniform."
What Malik fails to note in this article is that dress has always signalled that you belong to the group:
"Grey suited business men pissing against the wall."It is just, in this time of individual truth, it is more insidious.
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@StefanMuenz
Nun, der Mann der aus dem Off ins Kanzleramt gebracht wurde gehört möglicherweise zur #InGroup die das Recht schützt aber nicht bindet.
Und das erregte Rentnerlein gehört anscheinend zur #OutGroup die das Recht bindet aber nicht schützt. #Wilhoit -
@StefanMuenz
Nun, der Mann der aus dem Off ins Kanzleramt gebracht wurde gehört möglicherweise zur #InGroup die das Recht schützt aber nicht bindet.
Und das erregte Rentnerlein gehört anscheinend zur #OutGroup die das Recht bindet aber nicht schützt. #Wilhoit -
A quotation from William Dean Howells
Nothing is so hard to understand as that there are human beings in this world besides one’s self and one’s own set.
William Dean Howells (1837-1920) American author, literary critic, and playwright
Their Wedding Journey, ch. 2 “Midsummer-Day’s Dream” [Basil] (1872)More info about this quote: wist.info/howells-william-dean…
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #awareness #circle #ego #ingroup #others #outgroup #perspective #selfcenteredness #selfishness
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"natural #empathy or whatever you wanna call that is basically #worthless, #people just turn that on and off at their #convenience
its all #ingroup #outgroup dynamics frankly. one has to try to understand other people #deliberately and #consistently for it to be any good"
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"natural #empathy or whatever you wanna call that is basically #worthless, #people just turn that on and off at their #convenience
its all #ingroup #outgroup dynamics frankly. one has to try to understand other people #deliberately and #consistently for it to be any good"
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Many of you may already be aware of the important thoughts shared by #FrankWilhoit in his March 2018 blog comment "There is No Such Thing as Liberalism".
https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progressives/#comment-729288
It provides political framing I find useful. I propose using it as a test or "razor" (à la Occam) when evaluating political actions and legislation:
👉 Who does this action or law bind? Who does it protect? 👈
The best answer is the people who are bound are also protected. That would be a sign of that the action or law is a good one.
The worst answer is the people who are bound are not protected. This almost always means the action or law is a bad one.
As with all politics and compromise there are shades of grey, but this rule of thumb can help find the better action or law.
https://mdpaths.com/rrr/commentary/wilhoits_razor/index.html
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Many of you may already be aware of the important thoughts shared by #FrankWilhoit in his March 2018 blog comment "There is No Such Thing as Liberalism".
https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progressives/#comment-729288
It provides political framing I find useful. I propose using it as a test or "razor" (à la Occam) when evaluating political actions and legislation:
👉 Who does this action or law bind? Who does it protect? 👈
The best answer is the people who are bound are also protected. That would be a sign of that the action or law is a good one.
The worst answer is the people who are bound are not protected. This almost always means the action or law is a bad one.
As with all politics and compromise there are shades of grey, but this rule of thumb can help find the better action or law.
https://mdpaths.com/rrr/commentary/wilhoits_razor/index.html
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Der Mensch: Ein Affe mit einem strukturellen Gewaltproblem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaKK-SO-PDU
#WirGruppe #Ingroup #Outgroup #Anthropologie #Anthropology #Primatologie #Affenforschung #Primatology #Bonobos #Schimpansen #Frieden #Kriege #Kämpfe #Grausamkeit #Brutalität
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Der Mensch: Ein Affe mit einem strukturellen Gewaltproblem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaKK-SO-PDU
#WirGruppe #Ingroup #Outgroup #Anthropologie #Anthropology #Primatologie #Affenforschung #Primatology #Bonobos #Schimpansen #Frieden #Kriege #Kämpfe #Grausamkeit #Brutalität
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A quotation from Terry Pratchett
“You’re not one of us.”
“I don’t think I’m one of them, either,” said Brutha. “I’m one of mine.”Terry Pratchett (1948-2015) English author
Small Gods [Simony] (1992)Sourcing, notes: wist.info/pratchett-terry/8119…
#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #terrypratchett #terrypratchettquote #discworld #ingroup #independence #other #othering #outgroup #usvsthem
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Ingroup-Outgroup Dynamics
Narrowing of Identity Boundaries: Some gay individuals may narrowly define their #ingroup as consisting only of people with similar sexual orientations, seeing gender identity issues as unrelated or even oppositional.
#SocialIdentity Theory: Gay individuals might prioritize their own group's visibility and rights, leading to less concern for trans issues. -
If I'm reading this right, making people collaborate on a common task forces them to see the people they collaborate with as similar to them and thus encoded into their #ingroup (and not just as part of the #ourgroup).
I can't help but wonder if this is where a lot of the "I have a friend who's..." nonsense comes from. 🤦
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If I'm reading this right, making people collaborate on a common task forces them to see the people they collaborate with as similar to them and thus encoded into their #ingroup (and not just as part of the #ourgroup).
I can't help but wonder if this is where a lot of the "I have a friend who's..." nonsense comes from. 🤦
https://psycnet.apa.org/buy/2021-27027-001 -
Preaching to the choir / Criticizing the choir
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Sehr interessant für alle, die sich schon etwas länger mit dem demokratischen Losverfahren beschäftigen:
"Sobald man Teil einer Gruppe ist, will man sie beschützen. Menschen bevorzugen Mitglieder der eigenen Gruppe, ganz egal, wie die Gruppe zustande gekommen ist. Das gilt selbst noch dann, wenn die Gruppe aufgrund Zufallsauswahl zustande kam, also die Gruppenmitglieder ausgelost wurden."
#Demokratie #Psychologie #Gruppendenken #Sozialpsychologie #Ingroup #IngroupBias
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SERRCissä keskustelua episteemisestä autonomiasta ja sisäpiiri-vinoumasta, https://social-epistemology.com/2024/08/13/epistemic-autonomy-and-in-group-bias-part-i-adam-green/
#serrc #epistemology #socialEpistemology #bias #epistemic #autonomy #ingroup #ajattelu #understanding #social
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🖇️ Study finds motivation to compete is stronger with in-group members than with outsiders
https://phys.org/news/2024-06-stronger-group-members-outsiders.html
#socialscience #groups #politics #politicalscience #competion #ingroup #outgroup
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🖇️ Study finds motivation to compete is stronger with in-group members than with outsiders
https://phys.org/news/2024-06-stronger-group-members-outsiders.html
#socialscience #groups #politics #politicalscience #competion #ingroup #outgroup
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Etnocentrismo versus relativismo…
Il relativismo rischia di indebolire la cultura d'appartenenza, ma offre democrazia e dà voce a tutti. L'etnocentrismo privilegia il proprio gruppo di appartenenza. L'etnocentrismo - lo dice la parola - ritiene centrale la propria etnia, la propria cultura. L'etnocentrismo fa parte della
https://www.magozine.it/etnocentrismo-versus-relativismo/
#Editoriale #Assolutismo #ConflittiIntergruppi #Etnocentrismo #Ingroup #libert #Outgroup #Relativismo
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Etnocentrismo versus relativismo…
Il relativismo rischia di indebolire la cultura d'appartenenza, ma offre democrazia e dà voce a tutti. L'etnocentrismo privilegia il proprio gruppo di appartenenza. L'etnocentrismo - lo dice la parola - ritiene centrale la propria etnia, la propria cultura. L'etnocentrismo fa parte della
https://www.magozine.it/etnocentrismo-versus-relativismo/
#Editoriale #Assolutismo #ConflittiIntergruppi #Etnocentrismo #Ingroup #libert #Outgroup #Relativismo
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@selectric TL;DR https://git.arrdem.com/arrdem/pelorama_relay. would be happy to add y'all to the relay, yr #ingroup enough
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@selectric TL;DR https://git.arrdem.com/arrdem/pelorama_relay. would be happy to add y'all to the relay, yr #ingroup enough
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The paper is: Jones, D. (2000). Group nepotism and human kinship. Current Anthropology, 41(5): 779-809
It's long and I can't do it justice here, but it is rich with examples of how real-world #kinship obligations work,
and even talks about #ethnocentrism and #ethnonationalism.Group nepotism is when relatedness is combined with #coordination, i.e., there is sufficient #ingroup #solidarity
for the group to act as a #collective. -
The paper is: Jones, D. (2000). Group nepotism and human kinship. Current Anthropology, 41(5): 779-809
It's long and I can't do it justice here, but it is rich with examples of how real-world #kinship obligations work,
and even talks about #ethnocentrism and #ethnonationalism.Group nepotism is when relatedness is combined with #coordination, i.e., there is sufficient #ingroup #solidarity
for the group to act as a #collective.