#infinitegrowth — Public Fediverse posts

[P] Fuck. Why did I have to absent-mundedly apply thermodynamics to capitalism? In a ckosed system of limited resources, infinite growth is just a race toward total entropy. Capitalism is a race toward total entropy.

The silly roleplaying books about shapeshifting wolf-people were too accurate.

#psychology #actuallyautistic #werewolftheapocalypse #capitalism #latestagecapitalism #infinitegrowth

[P] Fuck. Why did I have to absent-mundedly apply thermodynamics to capitalism? In a ckosed system of limited resources, infinite growth is just a race toward total entropy. Capitalism is a race toward total entropy.

The silly roleplaying books about shapeshifting wolf-people were too accurate.

#psychology #actuallyautistic #werewolftheapocalypse #capitalism #latestagecapitalism #infinitegrowth

[P] Fuck. Why did I have to absent-mundedly apply thermodynamics to capitalism? In a ckosed system of limited resources, infinite growth is just a race toward total entropy. Capitalism is a race toward total entropy.

The silly roleplaying books about shapeshifting wolf-people were too accurate.

#psychology #actuallyautistic #werewolftheapocalypse #capitalism #latestagecapitalism #infinitegrowth

[P] Fuck. Why did I have to absent-mundedly apply thermodynamics to capitalism? In a ckosed system of limited resources, infinite growth is just a race toward total entropy. Capitalism is a race toward total entropy.

The silly roleplaying books about shapeshifting wolf-people were too accurate.

#psychology #actuallyautistic #werewolftheapocalypse #capitalism #latestagecapitalism #infinitegrowth

More Everything Forever: AI Overlords, Space Empires, and Silicon Valley's Crusade to Control the Fate of Humanity | Adam Becker (interview)

Silicon Valley billionaires, such as Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Sam Altman, promise salvation through space colonization, immortality, superintelligent AI, and endless growth. Adam Becker, astrophysicist and author of More Everything Forever: AI Overlords, Space Empires, and Silicon Valley’s Crusade to Control the Fate of Humanity, debunks these profoundly immoral and biophysically impossible delusions, and explains why resisting them through collective action is essential. Highlights include:

• How tech billionaires confuse science fiction for reality and why their fantasies of space colonization are biophysically impossible;
• Why Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) remains an ill-defined concept that is based in the false assumption that humans’ evolved brains work like computing machines;
• Why large language models (LLMs), the dominant form of AI, are neither creative nor accurate enough to achieve the dreamed-for leap in machine intelligence;
• What the end of Moore’s Law tells us about diminishing returns to technological complexity and the expectation of endless technological growth;
• Why longtermism is a dangerous ideology of technological salvation and endless growth, prioritizing hypothetical future populations while excusing present-day social injustice and ecological destruction;
• How the fear of death underlies techno-utopian off-planet and transhumanist fantasies;
• Why resisting their oligarchic visions requires calling out the ridiculousness of their ideas and organizing collectively to push back both politically and economically.

0:00 Introduction

4:44 Motivations to write the book

9:23 Confusing science fiction for reality

12:37 Musk and Bezos reasons for off-planet plans

15:55 Musk Mars plans are delusional

20:33 Bezos space station plans are delusional

23:34 Kurzweil’s AGI dream

29:27 End of Moore’s Law

34:38 Limits of large language models

36:37 Longtermism perversion of ethics

44:58 Effective accelerationists

48:42 Malcolm and Simone Collins

50:32 Fear of death and technological salvation

53:57 Meaningful democratic resistance

https://www.resilience.org/stories/2025-11-06/engineering-infinite-and-eternal-extinction-a-review-of-more-and-more-and-more-and-more-everything-forever/

This is an interesting format for book reviews, with two books covered in one review.

#books #infiniteGrowth

https://www.resilience.org/stories/2025-11-06/engineering-infinite-and-eternal-extinction-a-review-of-more-and-more-and-more-and-more-everything-forever/

This is an interesting format for book reviews, with two books covered in one review.

#books #infiniteGrowth

https://www.resilience.org/stories/2025-11-06/engineering-infinite-and-eternal-extinction-a-review-of-more-and-more-and-more-and-more-everything-forever/

This is an interesting format for book reviews, with two books covered in one review.

#books #infiniteGrowth

https://www.resilience.org/stories/2025-11-06/engineering-infinite-and-eternal-extinction-a-review-of-more-and-more-and-more-and-more-everything-forever/

This is an interesting format for book reviews, with two books covered in one review.

#books #infiniteGrowth

[P] It's interesting watching the desperate scrabbling that happens when anything in capitalism plateaus, like rats on a sinking ship. And right now, there's a lot of hard evidence that not only has LLM tech plateaued, but it's already in a declining state thanks to synthetic cannibalism (AIs trained on poor synthetic AI data). The greatest idiocy of corporate lemmings is "infinite growth." It's calculators all over again.

#psychology #ai #technology #infinitegrowth #justplaindumb

[P] It's interesting watching the desperate scrabbling that happens when anything in capitalism plateaus, like rats on a sinking ship. And right now, there's a lot of hard evidence that not only has LLM tech plateaued, but it's already in a declining state thanks to synthetic cannibalism (AIs trained on poor synthetic AI data). The greatest idiocy of corporate lemmings is "infinite growth." It's calculators all over again.

#psychology #ai #technology #infinitegrowth #justplaindumb

[P] It's interesting watching the desperate scrabbling that happens when anything in capitalism plateaus, like rats on a sinking ship. And right now, there's a lot of hard evidence that not only has LLM tech plateaued, but it's already in a declining state thanks to synthetic cannibalism (AIs trained on poor synthetic AI data). The greatest idiocy of corporate lemmings is "infinite growth." It's calculators all over again.

#psychology #ai #technology #infinitegrowth #justplaindumb

[P] It's interesting watching the desperate scrabbling that happens when anything in capitalism plateaus, like rats on a sinking ship. And right now, there's a lot of hard evidence that not only has LLM tech plateaued, but it's already in a declining state thanks to synthetic cannibalism (AIs trained on poor synthetic AI data). The greatest idiocy of corporate lemmings is "infinite growth." It's calculators all over again.

#psychology #ai #technology #infinitegrowth #justplaindumb

Is it an #Economy if its #ContinuedExistence is based on #InfiniteGrowth, or is it a #PyramidScheme?

Is it an #Economy if its #ContinuedExistence is based on #InfiniteGrowth, or is it a #PyramidScheme?

Is it an #Economy if its #ContinuedExistence is based on #InfiniteGrowth, or is it a #PyramidScheme?

Regarding Slack's announcement* that they will be "reducing [their] data storage offering for the free version of Slack [and] deleting messages and files more than one year old from free workspaces", I don't know.

One thing I became much more aware of after I joined the fediverse over a year ago is the unsustainable "infinite growth" of our online spaces that we all got used to thanks to corporate social media.

#slack #internet #InfiniteGrowth #sustainability

Regarding Slack's announcement* that they will be "reducing [their] data storage offering for the free version of Slack [and] deleting messages and files more than one year old from free workspaces", I don't know.

One thing I became much more aware of after I joined the fediverse over a year ago is the unsustainable "infinite growth" of our online spaces that we all got used to thanks to corporate social media.

#slack #internet #InfiniteGrowth #sustainability

Regarding Slack's announcement* that they will be "reducing [their] data storage offering for the free version of Slack [and] deleting messages and files more than one year old from free workspaces", I don't know.

One thing I became much more aware of after I joined the fediverse over a year ago is the unsustainable "infinite growth" of our online spaces that we all got used to thanks to corporate social media.

#slack #internet #InfiniteGrowth #sustainability

Regarding Slack's announcement* that they will be "reducing [their] data storage offering for the free version of Slack [and] deleting messages and files more than one year old from free workspaces", I don't know.

One thing I became much more aware of after I joined the fediverse over a year ago is the unsustainable "infinite growth" of our online spaces that we all got used to thanks to corporate social media.

#slack #internet #InfiniteGrowth #sustainability

I understand capitalism to be the economic system that functions by enclosing access to private property* in order to force people to cede a large part of the value produced by their labor to the people who control access to the means of production. The other essential aspect of capitalism is that that this access and control can be bought and sold, thus making it into capital.

What I'm wondering is what about this economic system requires continuous growth? This is a serious question, to which I don't have an answer. It's easy enough for me to imagine a steady-state capitalist economy. What's wrong with this idea if anything?

P.s. I'm not especially interested in arguing about the definition of the word "capitalism", but maybe I've missed some essential aspect of it that does imply continual growth?

#Capitalism #InfiniteGrowth #Enclosure

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* Which means productive land as well as more abstract means of production. In this definition "private" doesn't mean owned by non-governments, it means that access is restricted in order to compel labor. Governments own plenty of private property.

I understand capitalism to be the economic system that functions by enclosing access to private property* in order to force people to cede a large part of the value produced by their labor to the people who control access to the means of production. The other essential aspect of capitalism is that that this access and control can be bought and sold, thus making it into capital.

What I'm wondering is what about this economic system requires continuous growth? This is a serious question, to which I don't have an answer. It's easy enough for me to imagine a steady-state capitalist economy. What's wrong with this idea if anything?

P.s. I'm not especially interested in arguing about the definition of the word "capitalism", but maybe I've missed some essential aspect of it that does imply continual growth?

#Capitalism #InfiniteGrowth #Enclosure

----
* Which means productive land as well as more abstract means of production. In this definition "private" doesn't mean owned by non-governments, it means that access is restricted in order to compel labor. Governments own plenty of private property.

I understand capitalism to be the economic system that functions by enclosing access to private property* in order to force people to cede a large part of the value produced by their labor to the people who control access to the means of production. The other essential aspect of capitalism is that that this access and control can be bought and sold, thus making it into capital.

What I'm wondering is what about this economic system requires continuous growth? This is a serious question, to which I don't have an answer. It's easy enough for me to imagine a steady-state capitalist economy. What's wrong with this idea if anything?

P.s. I'm not especially interested in arguing about the definition of the word "capitalism", but maybe I've missed some essential aspect of it that does imply continual growth?

#Capitalism #InfiniteGrowth #Enclosure

----
* Which means productive land as well as more abstract means of production. In this definition "private" doesn't mean owned by non-governments, it means that access is restricted in order to compel labor. Governments own plenty of private property.

I understand capitalism to be the economic system that functions by enclosing access to private property* in order to force people to cede a large part of the value produced by their labor to the people who control access to the means of production. The other essential aspect of capitalism is that that this access and control can be bought and sold, thus making it into capital.

What I'm wondering is what about this economic system requires continuous growth? This is a serious question, to which I don't have an answer. It's easy enough for me to imagine a steady-state capitalist economy. What's wrong with this idea if anything?

P.s. I'm not especially interested in arguing about the definition of the word "capitalism", but maybe I've missed some essential aspect of it that does imply continual growth?

#Capitalism #InfiniteGrowth #Enclosure

----
* Which means productive land as well as more abstract means of production. In this definition "private" doesn't mean owned by non-governments, it means that access is restricted in order to compel labor. Governments own plenty of private property.

Everyone, pour one out for your favorite creators. Based on #Patreon 's new redesign and the associated announcements, they've leaned hard into #Enshittification (or at least making awful decisions to chase #InfiniteGrowth for shareholders).

So all your favorite artists, streamers, musicians, and the like are going to have waste time and effort learning a bunch of new platforms before long as Patreon sets itself ablaze.

Everyone, pour one out for your favorite creators. Based on #Patreon 's new redesign and the associated announcements, they've leaned hard into #Enshittification (or at least making awful decisions to chase #InfiniteGrowth for shareholders).

So all your favorite artists, streamers, musicians, and the like are going to have waste time and effort learning a bunch of new platforms before long as Patreon sets itself ablaze.

Everyone, pour one out for your favorite creators. Based on #Patreon 's new redesign and the associated announcements, they've leaned hard into #Enshittification (or at least making awful decisions to chase #InfiniteGrowth for shareholders).

So all your favorite artists, streamers, musicians, and the like are going to have waste time and effort learning a bunch of new platforms before long as Patreon sets itself ablaze.

Everyone, pour one out for your favorite creators. Based on #Patreon 's new redesign and the associated announcements, they've leaned hard into #Enshittification (or at least making awful decisions to chase #InfiniteGrowth for shareholders).

So all your favorite artists, streamers, musicians, and the like are going to have waste time and effort learning a bunch of new platforms before long as Patreon sets itself ablaze.

#Billionaire propaganda really has people out here who believe in the evidence-free religion of #InfiniteGrowth economies & the wet dream of mining #Mars rather than just creating an #EconomicSystem that meets the needs of humanity while protecting our limited resources

#Neoliberalism #ClimateChange

#Billionaire propaganda really has people out here who believe in the evidence-free religion of #InfiniteGrowth economies & the wet dream of mining #Mars rather than just creating an #EconomicSystem that meets the needs of humanity while protecting our limited resources

#Neoliberalism #ClimateChange

#Billionaire propaganda really has people out here who believe in the evidence-free religion of #InfiniteGrowth economies & the wet dream of mining #Mars rather than just creating an #EconomicSystem that meets the needs of humanity while protecting our limited resources

#Neoliberalism #ClimateChange

Fashion, tech, and auto industries have embraced #extractivecapitalism in pursuit of #infinitegrowth; consumers can challenge that by breaking our addiction to iterations of shiny new everything at lowest sticker price - we are only offsetting true cost to the planet and humanity, because the planet or someone has to bear it. It is non-negotiable.

From perspective of a fmr R&D Eng and current Prod Mgr (HW and SW) I believe transparency of #lifecyclecost based upon typical use may help consumers #buyforlife.

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/23529587/consumer-goods-quality-fast-fashion-technology

Fashion, tech, and auto industries have embraced #extractivecapitalism in pursuit of #infinitegrowth; consumers can challenge that by breaking our addiction to iterations of shiny new everything at lowest sticker price - we are only offsetting true cost to the planet and humanity, because the planet or someone has to bear it. It is non-negotiable.

From perspective of a fmr R&D Eng and current Prod Mgr (HW and SW) I believe transparency of #lifecyclecost based upon typical use may help consumers #buyforlife.

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/23529587/consumer-goods-quality-fast-fashion-technology

@gretathunberg For a day of consuming delirium, sharing a video with u about degrowth, called "Fairytales of Growth" 👋

https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=dQ4cpOKmde8​
#blackfriday #blackfridayDelirium #infiniteGrowth #degrowth​

@gretathunberg For a day of consuming delirium, sharing a video with u about degrowth, called "Fairytales of Growth" 👋

https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=dQ4cpOKmde8​
#blackfriday #blackfridayDelirium #infiniteGrowth #degrowth​

@gretathunberg For a day of consuming delirium, sharing a video with u about degrowth, called "Fairytales of Growth" 👋

https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=dQ4cpOKmde8​
#blackfriday #blackfridayDelirium #infiniteGrowth #degrowth​

For a day of consuming delirium, sharing a video with u about degrowth, called "Fairytales of Growth" 👋

https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=dQ4cpOKmde8
#blackfriday #blackfridayDelirium #infiniteGrowth #degrowth

For a day of consuming delirium, sharing a video with u about degrowth, called "Fairytales of Growth" 👋

https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=dQ4cpOKmde8
#blackfriday #blackfridayDelirium #infiniteGrowth #degrowth

@yogthos You are not wrong that some of the emissions moved to China along with manufacturing, but I think you are overstating their impact, at the same time downplaying environmental effects of #infiniteGrowth logic of #capitalism that drives #China forward.

Those things can be quantified, for example see a highlight from https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1006388108

1.2 Gt increase due to trade is for *all* developing nations. Total CO2 emissions in China in 2008 were around 7 Gt. Now it's 10 Gt.

@yogthos You are not wrong that some of the emissions moved to China along with manufacturing, but I think you are overstating their impact, at the same time downplaying environmental effects of #infiniteGrowth logic of #capitalism that drives #China forward.

Those things can be quantified, for example see a highlight from https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1006388108

1.2 Gt increase due to trade is for *all* developing nations. Total CO2 emissions in China in 2008 were around 7 Gt. Now it's 10 Gt.

@yogthos You are not wrong that some of the emissions moved to China along with manufacturing, but I think you are overstating their impact, at the same time downplaying environmental effects of #infiniteGrowth logic of #capitalism that drives #China forward.

Those things can be quantified, for example see a highlight from https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1006388108

1.2 Gt increase due to trade is for *all* developing nations. Total CO2 emissions in China in 2008 were around 7 Gt. Now it's 10 Gt.

@yogthos You are not wrong that some of the emissions moved to China along with manufacturing, but I think you are overstating their impact, at the same time downplaying environmental effects of #infiniteGrowth logic of #capitalism that drives #China forward.

Those things can be quantified, for example see a highlight from https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1006388108

1.2 Gt increase due to trade is for *all* developing nations. Total CO2 emissions in China in 2008 were around 7 Gt. Now it's 10 Gt.

Para um dia de delírio consumista brutal... Partilhamos com vocês um #documentário sobre #decrescimento. :rainbow_heart_eyes:

https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=dQ4cpOKmde8
#blackfriday #blackfridayDelirium #infiniteGrowth #degrowth

Para um dia de delírio consumista brutal... Partilhamos com vocês um #documentário sobre #decrescimento. :rainbow_heart_eyes:

https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=dQ4cpOKmde8
#blackfriday #blackfridayDelirium #infiniteGrowth #degrowth

Para um dia de delírio consumista brutal... Partilhamos com vocês um #documentário sobre #decrescimento. :rainbow_heart_eyes:

https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=dQ4cpOKmde8
#blackfriday #blackfridayDelirium #infiniteGrowth #degrowth

Can we have #infiniteGrowth on a #finitePlanet?

For bonus points:

Can we decouple #economicGrowth and growth in the #consumption of #resources and #energy?