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With our ‘Sustainability Atlas IT’, we aim to provide a concise yet comprehensive insight into #sustainable #IT #infrastructures.
@mrchrisadams , one of the partners of #greenio 🎙️ with his #GreenWebFoundation, shared his views on #sustainability on the web with us during the event and painted a picture of a better future for #datacentres, #AI and the #internet.
#digital #sustainability #ai #Postcodelotterie

@ExtinctionR An article by The #GreenWebFoundation, who was involved in the project:

https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/news/europeans-agree-time-to-put-limits-on-big-tech-data-centres/

@Edent I would talk to @mrchrisadams and look at the #GreenWebFoundation Green Web Check, and implement carbon.txt on your site...

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Joining the @w3c Sustainable Web Interest Group - #GreenWebFoundation
https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/news/joining-the-w3c-sustainable-web-interest-group/

Pick two

There’s a well-known project management / product management adage… you have three variables – speed / price / quality – and must choose two.

FOSDEM 2025

My friend Chris Adams is, like me1, headed to FOSDEM 2025 – in fact, for the last couple of years, that is the only time I’ve had the joy of seeing him, so I already treasure the opportunity to go there!

Background factoid: Chris and I got to know each other back in the London tech scene, and bonded over topics like the internet of things, energy monitoring and green initiatives – he’s now heading up the Green Web Foundation, as well as co-hosting a very good podcast. He’s also one of the nicest humans I know – and I’m privileged to know a lot of good people.

He’s proposed setting up some very basic air quality measurement in the devrooms – essentially crowdsourcing some data about the concentration in the conference rooms. In his post about the idea, he’s suggested an initial baseline: grab an affordable device from the onlines2, and (with the approval of the room owner) stick it somewhere prominent. Future steps might be to have a nice Grafana dashboard with open data feeding into it.

Suitably nerd-sniped, I have accepted the challenge. This is where that choice starts to bite, though…

Chris is, very sensibly, working upwards from a baseline of “something is better than nothing”. My brain decided to join in, but from the Utopian ideal that we have open hardware and software doing all the work for us already, and that’s where I’ve spent most of Monday morning. First of all – look, yes, I’m as guilty of grabbing cheap stuff from AliExpress as many others, but if I’m going to do so, I’d prefer to know that I can hack it myself and push data to my own MQTT broker.

So, I started by looking into the open hardware options.

There are such devices available. Chris learned about Devtank, a UK-based company that makes some environmental monitoring devices that support MQTT, who I know about via OpenUK events and community. I dug into these a couple of years ago, and my memory is that they are not consumer-level affordable, and may not be the right choice here, but I’m open to being corrected! They also do particulate monitoring rather than CO2, I think.

There are a handful of other full solutions that I know of – the Luftdaten sensors / community, the Apollo Automation Air 1, and the Air Gradient, all of which could be good for this, but are pricier, and more-or-less headless / have minimal displays, thus needing more work to build the dashboard up-front.

There’s the possibility of full build-it-yourself, which could work, assuming folks have the time and energy. The IKEA Vindrikning devices are reasonably priced, and eminently hackable with a Pi Pico W, but again do particulate monitoring rather than CO2. I already have the Pimoroni Enviro+ for both Pico and Pi, once again providing optional PM measurement rather than CO2. That CO2 element is the kicker in most of these cases – it’s solvable with the addition of the correct sensor add-on, but not super quick to do, or as afforable as the cheapo quick purchase options. These would all also want some work to get a nice display in place that was visible in the room, or the provision of a dashboard. I’m in a decent spot – I’ve been collecting and tinkering with these kinds of solutions for years – but this is not a straightforward solution for most of the devrooms.

So… I find myself back at AliExpress, checking on gadgets, and then searching to see whether any FLOSS integrations exist that work – i.e. something with a screen, affordable, supporting CO2 measurement, and a local connection without depending on a vendor’s cloud.

I think some of the things I’m seeing could be persuaded to share their data over BLE to a nearby Pi or other device, and then push that over MQTT, but I’m not so sure that many of them would allow a full firmware replacement that also retains a usable display. I also see some devices that use a Tuya module to do their networking, and there are various states of jailbreaking or sniffing of these online and a Python module, but the level to which they can be reliably detached from an overlord cloud is variable.

All of this is an info dump rather than a solution. It would be great to keep this conversation active, and see where we can get to in the next 3-4 weeks ahead of the event!

I’m likely to try grabbing a couple of cheap (! … ok maybe sub-£30) monitors and see what I can do with them when they arrive, but I don’t really want to put those kinds of things onto FOSDEM network infrastructure without knowing more about how they work.

Right now, I’m stuck at picking two – quick (to procure), low cost; but, proprietary and tied to a dubious data sink – over trying for a better longer-term option.

More ideas welcome! There’s a thread over here on Mastodon, and here on Bluesky; or comment here, if you wish!

1. I’ll be helping with the Social Web Devroom. ↩︎
2. Chris (and I) do not specifically endorse this one, just an option that he already has.
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https://andypiper.co.uk/2024/12/30/finding-affordable-air-quality-sensors-for-fosdem/

#100DaysToOffload #airQuality #AQM #carbon #carbonDioxide #ChrisAdams #CO2 #devices #environment #Fosdem #Gadgets #green #GreenWebFoundation #hardware #monitoring #MQTT #Technology

Dudelle jälleen Green Hosting -merkki!

Green Web Foundation on organisaatio, joka edistää kestävämpää internetiä ohjaamalla verkkosivustoja ja palvelimia käyttämään uusiutuvaa energiaa fossiilisten polttoaineiden sijaan. Tämä merkki on siis konkreettinen todiste siitä, että meidän verkkopalvelimemme pyörivät vihreästi ja ympäristöystävällisesti.

Tämä ei ole vain kiva lätkä verkkosivuille koristeeksi ja itsekehuskelun aihe yhteen somehypetykseen – se on osoitus sitoutumisestamme kestävään kehitykseen ja hiilijalanjäljen pienentämiseen. Olemme ylpeitä siitä, että voimme tehdä oman osamme internetin ympäristövaikutusten vähentämiseksi ja toimia vastuullisesti myös verkon puolella.

#greenwebfoundation #greenhosting #digitoimistodude

(I do wonder what standpoint the #GreenWebFoundation has on this - this most likely also jeopardizes a fossil-free internet by 2030? https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/)

…Addendum: perhaps Branch are using https://developers.thegreenwebfoundation.org/grid-intensity-cli/overview/ from #greenwebfoundation for their grid intensity detection.

Still trying to track down their unicode technique for downsizing of images and video 🤔

Hi @hanopcan, can you shed any light on the unicode thing for me?

#GreenSoftware Engineering aims to promote #sustainability on the #Internet, ideas for implementation are explained in this article: https://spectrum.ieee.org/green-software
#Software with unclean codes and wrong-sized images have a negative impact on energy consumption and higher #CO2emissions than green software that is efficient and can create higher quality systems. That's why the #GreenWebFoundation is working towards the ambitious goal of making the internet fossil-free by 2030.

Durch #GreenSoftware Engineering soll #Nachhaltigkeit auch im #Internet vorangetrieben werden, Ideen zur Umsetzung erläutert dieser Artikel: https://spectrum.ieee.org/green-software
#Software mit unsauberen Codes und Bilder in falscher Größe wirken sich negativ auf den Energieverbrauch aus und haben einen höheren #CO2-Ausstoß wie grüne Software, die effizient ist und hochwertigere Systeme erschaffen kann. Daher arbeitet die #GreenWebFoundation an dem ehrgeizigen Ziel, das Internet bis 2030 fossilfrei zu machen.

REGISTER:
If your instance is not in the list, you can enter it yourself here: https://fediverse.observer/podmin
If you do not receive a green-check status for your instance, then you can register your instance (server) with the #GreenWebFoundation and first visit here: https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/tools/green-web-dataset/get-verified
„Verification is free“

NEWS:
Hey #fediverse! Kind of a historical moment! We are very happy that @fediverseobserver finally integrated our idea to green-check all fediverse instances with the API of the #GreenWebFoundation. #FediverseObserver also offers a map: https://fediverse.observer/map with "green" and "black" instances, where every green-checked instance has now a status that looks like this: "The Green Web Foundation identifies this as a green hosted server" or „This website using a GreenHost“! 💚

Great presentation by @adrianco on Virtual #Cloud Native #Sustainability Week last year by Technical Advisory Group (TAG) Environmental Sustainability.

Topic: Cloud Provider Sustainability - Current Status and Future Directions
https://youtu.be/8G248SnpRkc?t=3744
(start at 1:02:24)

There are terms like PPA and REC. Not all of those tools are #greenwashing. Proper #RenewableEnergy Credits (REC/GoO) can help to fund existing #renewable #energy projects and Power Purchase Agreements (PPA) create new #renewables! This includes drilling into scope2 and #scope3 #co2 emissions of #Google #Amazon #Microsoft. This includes not only #electricity consumption but also emissions caused by the creation of the hardware, building, infrastructure...

#CNCF #AWS #Azure #GAFAM #greenIT #linux #climate #kepler #renewableEnergy #solar #eBPF #greenFediverse #greenWebFoundation #greenSoftwareFoundation #green #Software #climatecrisis #climatechange

Did you know you can check a website in #greenwebfoundation to see whether or not it’s hosted on servers powered by renewable energy?

The internet is the world's largest coal-powered machine. Its emissions greater than that of the aviation industry.

Check at https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/

#Business #Initiatives
carbon.txt · What is it and why should you care? https://ilo.im/13l3eh

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#Sustainability #GreenWebFoundation #CarbonFootprint #DigitalInfrastructure #ServiceProvider #Website

@mrchrisadams
Hi Chris, congratulations to you and your team at the #GreenWebFoundation.
Would you be interested in writing a guest blog post for us at https://greeneralia.org about what you do and what the rest of us can do to help?
Including details of slots you are currently looking to fill?
Greeneralia is live, but we are still working on the format so have not publicised etc as yet.

What a brilliant opportunity - The Green Web Foundation is seeking five practitioners for a paid part-time fellowship of 10 months for our 2023 cohort. https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/fellowships/ #GreenWebFoundation #DigitalRights #ClimateJustice

#co2 aware scheduling of workload described by Chris Adams ( #greenWebFoundation & #greenSoftwareFoundation ):

"many computation workloads (such as some learning or big data) can be flexible in time (scheduled for delayed execution) and space (transferred across any geographical distance with limited cost). This opens the possibility of shifting workloads in time and space to take advantage in real time of any amount of excess renewable energy, which otherwise would be curtailed and wasted. Initial results show that a single #datacenter that time shifts load can reduce its #emissions by 19% or more annually"
https://github.com/kedacore/keda/issues/3467#issuecomment-1202524885
#greenFediverse #greenIT #sustainability #sustainable #software

For more, join the the discussion:
https://hackmd.io/join/ByapKybo5
#cncf

#greenSoftwareFoundation needs help:

"I'm looking for recommendations for an analyst or boutique analyst firm to help us get a landscape analysis together, and map out the different areas of focus these groups have.
The primary goal is helping inform the green software foundations own policy advocacy over the next 24 months or so, but I'm hoping we'll end up with some shareable artefact that might be relevant for other groups in this field as well.

This a funded project, and we're intending to commission it over the summer, to end up with a deliverable that lists existing initiatives and how they might relate to existing anticipated policy changes over the next 24 months. We have an annual drumbeat of the COP process now for example, as well as energy market reform in various regions, along with new requirements on emissions disclosure coming in Europe and the States as examples which are likely to be drivers in this field."

https://github.com/cncf/wg-env-sustainability/discussions/16#discussioncomment-3220107

#greenIT #greenFediverse #greenWebFoundation

@MastOHelp leider ist bei https://instances.social keine Information darüber, ob die Instanz mit Ökostrom betrieben wird... weißt du wer der zuständige Entwickler ist? Vielleicht lässt sich die Übersicht mit den Daten von #greenFediverse bzw. der #greenWebFoundation anreichern, welche eine API anbieten.

@EDPS Awesome! 🇪🇺

#foss #decentralize #eu #europa no #bigtech no #gafam #green #greenWebFoundation #greenIT

Next thing what I'm waiting for:
● #righttorepair and
● #DueDiligence #lieferkettengesetz #ESG #supplychain #Transparenz

https://www.reddit.com/r/avoidchineseproducts/comments/scxnii/if_you_want_congress_to_mandate_country_of_origin/

@ebildungslabor ein Blick in die #greenWebFoundation lohnt sich immer:
https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org

#greenFediverse

@Strubbl @Tifi @mondstern @caos
Interessante #osm links postet ihr da!

Wisst ihr zufällig, wo diese genannten Seiten ihre Server stehen haben?
In der #greenwebfoundation findet man dort leider keine Einträge:
https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org

Ich bin immer noch auf der Suche nach #maps die "grün" gehostet sind. Wenn jemand was weiß, würde ich mich freuen

#greenFediverse

Gibt es eine Übersicht der verschiedenen #Wordle Seiten?

Und welche davon laufen mit erneuerbaren Energieen?

#gwf #greenwebfoundation #greenweb #greenIT #green #greenfediverse
https://pad.hacc.space/green-games?view#Wordle

Interessanter Vortrag von Anke Domscheit-Berg, der auch den Aspekt der #Nachhaltigkeit in der öffentlichen #IT anspricht!

https://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-2021-chaoszone-358-inside-bundestag

@chaoszone #rc3 #chaoszone #greenIT #green #greenwebfoundation