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The Watchers

A watcher is a type of biblical angel. It shows up in both plural & singular forms in the Book of Daniel. This is where reference is made to the holiness of the beings. The Book of Enoch (2nd-1st century BC) refer to both good & bad Watchers, with a mani focus on the rebellious ones.

In Daniel 4:13, 17, & 23, there’s 3 references to the class of “watcher, holy ones.” The term was intro’ed by Nebuchaddnezzar who said he saw ” a watcher, a holy cone come down from Heaven.” He described how in his dream the watcher said that Nebuchdnezzzar will eat grass & be crazy. This punishment is “by the decree of the watchers, the demand by the word of the holy ones…” “that the living may know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men.”

The 1st Book of Enoch devotes a lot of attention to the fall of the Watchers. The 2nd Book of Enoch addresses the Watchers who are in the 5th Heaven where the fall took place. The 3rd Book of Enoch gives attention to the unfallen watchers.

In the Book of Enoch, the Watchers are angels sent to Earth to watch over the humans. They soon begin to lust for/after human women, & at the prodding of their leader, Samyaza, defect to illicitly instruct mankind & have kids with them, arriving at Mount Hermon. The offspring of these unions are the Nephilim savage giants who pillage the earth & endanger humanity.

Samyaza & his associates further taught their human “charges” arts & tech such as weaponry, cosmetics, mirrors, sorcery, & other techniques that would otherwise be discovered gradually over time by humans, not foisted upon them all at once.

Eventually, God allows a Great Flood to rid the earth of the Nephilim. But 1st sends the archangel Uriel to warn Noah so as not to completely destroy the human race. The watchers are bound “in the valley of the Earth” until Judgment Day (Jude 1:6). This is where some theories pop up. Like they’re in the Marianus Trench or in the depths of the Grand Canyon or in a mountain base.

The Book of Enoch also lists the leaders of the 200 fallen angels who married & consummated unnatural unions with human women, & who taught forbidden knowledge. Some are listed in the Book of Raziel (Sefer Raziel Hamalakh), the Zohar, & Jubilees. Here’s a short list of them:

• Araqiel: Taught humans the signs of the earth (geomancy). However, in the Sibylline Oracles, Araqiel is referred to not as a fallen angel (or watcher) but as 1 of the 5 angels who lead the souls of humans to judgment.
• Armaros: In I Enoch, taught humanity the resolving of enchantments.
• Azazel: Taught humans to make knives, swords, shields, & how to devise ornaments & cosmetics, metallurgy (specifically in the context of war)
• Gadreel: Taught the art of cosmetics (camouflage), the use of weapons & killing blows (martial arts & weaponry).
• Baraqel: Taught the signs of the stars (astrology)
• Chazaqiel: Taught humans the signs of the clouds (meteorology)
• Kokabiel: In the Book of Raziel, he’s a high-ranking, holy angel. In I Enoch, he’s a fallen watcher, resident of Hell, & commands 365,000 surrogate spirits to do his bidding.
• Penemue: Taught mankind the art of writing with ink & paper, & taught the kids of men the bitter & the sweet & the secrets of wisdom.
• Sariel: Taught mankind about the courses of the moon.
• Samyaza: 1 of the leaders of the fall from Heaven in Vocabulaire de l’Angelolgie.
• Shamsiel: Once a guardian of Eden as stated in the Zohar, served as 1 of the 2 chief aides to the archangel Uriel, when Uriel bore his standard into battle, & is the head of 365 legions of angels & also crowns prayers, accompanying them into the 5th Heaven. In Jubilees, he’s referred to as 1 of the Watchers. He’s a fallen angel who teaches the signs of the sun.
• Yeqon/Jeqon: He was the ringleader who 1st tempted the other Watchers into having adult spicy naked time with humans. His accomplices were: Asbeel, Gadreel, Penemue, & Kasdaye, who were all identified as individual “Satans.”

The Jewish pseudepigraphon 2nd Book of Enoch (Slavonic Enoch) referred to the Grigori. They’re the same as the Watchers in 1st Enoch. Chapter 18 presents the Grigori as countless soldiers with human appearance.

They’re located in the 5th Heaven. They’re identified as “the Grigori, who with their prince Satanail (Yes, you are reading that correctly) rejects the Lord of light.” One version of 2 Enoch adds that their number was/is 200 myriads (2 million).

Chapter 29, referring to the 2nd day of creation, before the creation of human beings, says that “One from out the order of angels” or “one of the ranks of the archangels” “conceived an impossible thought, to place his throne higher than the clouds above the earth, that he might become equal in rank to the Lord’s power. And the Lord threw him out from the height with his angels, & he was flying in the air continuously above the bottomless.”

The Mercer Dictionary of the Bible makes a distinction between the Grigori & the fallen angels by stating that in the 5th Heaven, Enoch sees “the giants whose brothers were the fallen angels.”

The longer recension of 2 Enoch 18:3 identifies the prisoners of the 2nd Heaven as the angels of Satanail.

First Corinthians 11:10, according to early Church Father Tertullian, refers to the Watchers. He taught that the lust of the Watchers was the reason for St. Paul’s directive to Christian women to wear a head covering. Tertullian referenced the case of a woman who was touched on the neck by an angel “who found her to be a temptation.”

According to Philo of Byblos, Sanchuniathon mentioned “some living beings who had no perception, out of whom intelligent beings came into existence, & they were called Zophasemin (In Hebrew: “Watchers of Heaven”). And they were formed like the shape of an egg.”

In the 1999 movie Dogma, the character Bartleby (played by Ben Affleck) is mentioned to have formerly been a Watcher. In the TV show Supernatural (season 10), the Grigori with 1 Tamiel (under the name “Peter Holloway”) appears as the main enemy of the episode. At 1 point, a picture is shown that is implied to be a painting of a Grigori. In the original Dragon’s Dogma, the dragon is called Grigori.

In the 1998 movie City of Angels (this is 1 of our founders’ favorite movies), Nicolas Cage plays a watcher angel who falls in love with a human woman (played by Meg Ryan).

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The Pre-#Biblical Origins of #NoahsFlood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw13SadIPOs

#genesis #religion #ancienthistory #mythology #myths #epic #gilgamesh #Mesopotamia #ninevah #Eridu #AtraHasis #greatflood #christian #judaism #fakehistory #sumerian #humans #gods #antiquity #babylon

The Pre-#Biblical Origins of #NoahsFlood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw13SadIPOs

#genesis #religion #ancienthistory #mythology #myths #epic #gilgamesh #Mesopotamia #ninevah #Eridu #AtraHasis #greatflood #christian #judaism #fakehistory #sumerian #humans #gods #antiquity #babylon

Discover a reimagined journey of Noah's Ark in our latest story, exploring the raw emotions of survival and a fascinating meteor theory! 🌧️🚀 #NoahsArk #GreatFlood #BiblicalRetelling

https://bdking71.wordpress.com/2024/09/26/the-forgotten-voices-of-the-great-flood-a-fictional-retelling-of-noahs-ark-journey/

Cursed #Creationist #Documentary -
🦖The #Ark And The Darkness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-zXiiqILmE

Get ready for another #creationist documentary about #Genesis! #TheArk and the Darkness is all about the "plausibility" of the story of #NoahsArk and the #GreatFlood. We can #debunk a lil creationism as a treat.

#myths #mythology #kenham #AIG #science #badscience #voodooscience #religion #fakehistory #badhistory #sundayschool #judaism #christianity

Schooling a #Rabbi on #Evolution
pt 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gOhY-6NZy8
#faith #science #religion #fables #israel #mythology #atheism #atheist #judaism #greatflood #gods

When humans forget to be decent, it seems the Earth has in the past found ways to cull them in huge numbers. Perhaps we should start building an ark.

Mastodon #Fediverse #GreatFlood#LindaSgoluppiArt

When humans forget to be decent, it seems the Earth has in the past found ways to cull them in huge numbers. Perhaps we should start building an ark.

Mastodon #Fediverse #GreatFlood#LindaSgoluppiArt

24 h without power. Lights came back this afternoon, but still no wifi. All my documents are in the cloud, so going old-skool with... pen and paper?! 😯 Good thing I write #HistoricalFiction, it's all research for life in 1915!

#GreatStorm #GreatFlood

Here’s the Inside Story About #NoahsArk
https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2023/05/18/heres-the-inside-story-about-noahs-ark/
#arkpark #mythology #fakeHistory #christianity #christian #greatflood #judaism

#WritingWonders 3May- What is the criminal justice system like in your world?

I’m writing about the Great Flood, so it’s as draconian as they come: kill them all and let God sort them out. #mythology #DeathPenalty #GreatFlood

#WritingWonders 3May- What is the criminal justice system like in your world?

I’m writing about the Great Flood, so it’s as draconian as they come: kill them all and let God sort them out. #mythology #DeathPenalty #GreatFlood

#WritingWonders Day 28: Does your antagonist have any redeemable qualities?

The antagonist is God. Well, if He hadn’t set everything in motion, no one would exist, so there’s that, I suppose. #writing #GreatFlood

#WritingWonders Day 28: Does your antagonist have any redeemable qualities?

The antagonist is God. Well, if He hadn’t set everything in motion, no one would exist, so there’s that, I suppose. #writing #GreatFlood

3/27 #WritingWonders
What would your MC's favorite book be?
https://www.witpress.com/books/978-1-84564-560-1 #writing #GreatFlood

3/27 #WritingWonders
What would your MC's favorite book be?
https://www.witpress.com/books/978-1-84564-560-1 #writing #GreatFlood

#WritingWonders 9Mar- What is the first emotion your MC feels when they hear the word home?

Loss. He wants to go home but knows that it will not exist for much longer. The end is nigh. #Enki #GreatFlood #CliFi #Mythology

#WritingWonders 9Mar- What is the first emotion your MC feels when they hear the word home?

Loss. He wants to go home but knows that it will not exist for much longer. The end is nigh. #Enki #GreatFlood #CliFi #Mythology

I finished another chapter of my novel today. I wasn’t sure I liked it until I read it out loud. Yes, I do like it. I’m at the point in my book where the plot is speeding along like that big rock chasing Indiana Jones. The Great Flood is imminent. #Writing #WritingCommunity #CliFi #GreatFlood #Slipstream #Mythology #SFFWriters

I finished another chapter of my novel today. I wasn’t sure I liked it until I read it out loud. Yes, I do like it. I’m at the point in my book where the plot is speeding along like that big rock chasing Indiana Jones. The Great Flood is imminent. #Writing #WritingCommunity #CliFi #GreatFlood #Slipstream #Mythology #SFFWriters

#WritingWonders Q 3/5
Does your antagonist have moral boundaries they would never cross?

He would never defy God’s orders. But he will work hard to find loopholes. #WritingCommunity #Mythology #Enki #GreatFlood

#WritingWonders Q 3/5
Does your antagonist have moral boundaries they would never cross?

He would never defy God’s orders. But he will work hard to find loopholes. #WritingCommunity #Mythology #Enki #GreatFlood

#writingwonders D4: MC POV, What do you envy about your best friend?

If anything, it’s his ignorance as to what’s to come. Ignorance is bliss. Enki can’t live his carefree life knowing that the Great Flood is coming. #WritingCommunity #Slipstream #Mythology #SumerianMythology #Enki #SFF #GreatFlood

#writingwonders D4: MC POV, What do you envy about your best friend?

If anything, it’s his ignorance as to what’s to come. Ignorance is bliss. Enki can’t live his carefree life knowing that the Great Flood is coming. #WritingCommunity #Slipstream #Mythology #SumerianMythology #Enki #SFF #GreatFlood

#WritingWonders D1: Intro; What do you have in common with your MC?

I suppose we both have a fierce sense of nostalgia. We both want things to be like they were, but that can never happen again. Enki and I both have anxiety about climate catastrophe, too. #AmWriting #WritingCommunity #GreatFlood #mythology #Enki #CliFi

#WritingWonders D1: Intro; What do you have in common with your MC?

I suppose we both have a fierce sense of nostalgia. We both want things to be like they were, but that can never happen again. Enki and I both have anxiety about climate catastrophe, too. #AmWriting #WritingCommunity #GreatFlood #mythology #Enki #CliFi

#WritingWonders 2/20: How self-confident is your MC on a scale from 1 - 100?

I don’t think in number scales, so this is meaningless to me. Enki began the story with plenty of self-confidence, but it’s been steadily dwindling. That’s what happens when you find out the world will end because of your actions or inactions. #mythology #Enki #AmWriting #GreatFlood

#WritingWonders 2/20: How self-confident is your MC on a scale from 1 - 100?

I don’t think in number scales, so this is meaningless to me. Enki began the story with plenty of self-confidence, but it’s been steadily dwindling. That’s what happens when you find out the world will end because of your actions or inactions. #mythology #Enki #AmWriting #GreatFlood

#WritingWonders Day 15: Describe your MC’s current mood like the weather forecast.

A low pressure system is called a depression. Depressions bring unsettled weather and rain. Fitting, because the great flood is imminent. #GreatFlood #AmWriting #slipstream #mythology #CliFi

#WritingWonders Day 15: Describe your MC’s current mood like the weather forecast.

A low pressure system is called a depression. Depressions bring unsettled weather and rain. Fitting, because the great flood is imminent. #GreatFlood #AmWriting #slipstream #mythology #CliFi

#WritingWonders 2/7: Does weather or climate play a particular role in your book?

It sure does. I’m writing Cli-Fi about the Great Flood. It is syncretic and pulls in elements from a variety of mythologies, folklores, fairytales, Bible stories, science, and pop culture. #CliFi #slipstream #GreatFlood #AmWriting #WritingCommunity #mythology

I've written this, asking what have we learned from the #GreatFlood in #1953 on its 70 year anniversary? How can coastal planning account for climate impacts? And what's the role for heritage? It includes an account of my great grandfather, a coastguard who played a key part in the flood story. #ExtremeWeatherStories https://medium.com/extreme-weather-stories/70-years-have-we-learned-from-the-great-flood-8f1af24ff296

I've written this, asking what have we learned from the #GreatFlood in #1953 on its 70 year anniversary? How can coastal planning account for climate impacts? And what's the role for heritage? It includes an account of my great grandfather, a coastguard who played a key part in the flood story. #ExtremeWeatherStories https://medium.com/extreme-weather-stories/70-years-have-we-learned-from-the-great-flood-8f1af24ff296

The flood, floods and mythic flood stories 7 North America

By the indigenous peoples of the Americas we can find also several myths of a great deluge. The K’iche’ and Maya peoples in Mesoamerica having the best well-known folk tales.

One of the Maya peoples, the K’iche’ (or in previous Spanish spelling: Quiché, associated with the ancient Maya civilization, reached the peak of their power and influence during the Postclassic period. El Quiché forms the heartland of the K’iche’ people. In pre-Columbian times, the K’iche’ settlements and influence reached beyond the highlands, including the valley of Antigua and coastal areas in Escuintla.

In the Popol Vuh (“Pop wuj” in proper K’iche – “the book of events”), one of the most significant surviving Mesoamerican literary documents and primary sources of knowledge about Maya societal traditions, beliefs and mythological accounts, a product of the 16th century K’iche’ people, we can find a compilation of mythological and ethno-historical narratives known to these people at that time, which were drawn from earlier pre-Columbian sources (now lost) and also oral traditional storytelling.

Like by other peoples we also can find a narrative trying to explain how everything began. They too give their version of the creation myth, they modelled from corn dough according to their genesis, relating how world and humans were created by the gods, the story of the divine brothers, and the history of the K’iche’ from their migration into their homeland up to the Spanish conquest.

The largest ethnic groups in Guatemala, ethnically Maya and living in the highlands to the north and the west of Lake Atitlán, primarily in the departments of Quetzaltenango, Totonicapan, and El Quiché, also have their story of sky without any obstruction, in which clouds were placed, gods being worried that their creations would “become as great as gods” and therefore limited the clarity with which their works saw. Thus were created the first fathers of the K’iche’. Next, the gods created the four women who would be the mothers of the K’iche’ people. Other lineage heads, whose descendants would form the other tribes, were also created in this time before the dawn. But when those people did not behave properly nest to each other, the land became undulated by the force of the gods. In the lore of the flood the world of the people is made in no place to live any more for animals and people, except for those who listened to the warning God gave and had taken their refuge in the huge canoe or ark.

By oral tradition children got warned to listen to their gods so that they would not bring judgement over them like they had done in the past by bringing water over mankind. It became considered the task within each tribe for elders to act as repositories of cultural and philosophical knowledge and to be the transmitters of such vital information, giving the next generation a warning of the importance to live properly respecting the work of the gods and making sure that people grew up with the “basic beliefs and teachings, encouraging…faith in the Great Spirit, the Creator“.

The Lac Courte Oreilles Ojibwa, one of seven federally recognized bands of Ojibwe people located in present-day Wisconsin,is a tribe of Native Americans in North America who have lived in a land which is almost entirely covered by a forest and several lakes. For them water has played a very important role. Following the Seven Fires Prophecy, that marks phases, or epochs, in the life of the people on Turtle Island, Anishinaabe leaders ordered their warriors to expand to the west after they learned that the people mentioned in the prophecy had invaded in the East.

The teachings of the ‘Seven Fires prophecy’ also state that when the world has been befouled and the waters turned bitter by disrespect, human beings will have two options to choose from, materialism or spirituality. If they chose spirituality, they will survive, but if they chose materialism, it will be the end of it. It also reminds the people of the Second Fire where the nation was camped by a large body of water. It was the time the direction of the Sacred Shell was lost and the Midewiwin was diminished in strength. Though it was also the time a boy would have been born to point the way back to the traditional ways (Could this be referring to the descendant of Noah and King David, who would be called the Messiah?). Of that saviour who comes after such deluge is being said he will show the direction to the stepping stones to the future of the Anishinabe people or people from the waters or Iyo-ḣaḣatoŋwaŋ (“cascading-waterfalls people”) later known by the French as Saulteurs (“cascaders”) and Saulteaux (“cascades”).

Funny to notice that one of their prophets wrote

The Dakota Indians, a Native American tribe composing two of the three main subcultures of the Sioux /ˈsuː/ people, with the Santee (Isáŋyathi or Isáŋ-athi; “knife” + “encampment”, ″dwells at the place of knife flint″), Woodland people who thrived on hunting, fishing and farming, who reside in the eastern Dakotas, central Minnesota and northern Iowa, plus the Yankton, and the Yanktonai (Iháŋktȟuŋwaŋ and Iháŋktȟuŋwaŋna; “Village-at-the-end” and “Little village-at-the-end”), who reside in the Missouri River area, also have oral stories about a great deluge, which still may go round.

Problem with those native people is that their stories are not yet fully recorded and by the contemporary evolution and non-interest in previous history lots of wisdom may get lost.

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The flood, floods and mythic flood stories 1 Flooding and Water-waves

The flood, floods and mythic flood stories 2 Mythic theme 1 God or gods warning

The flood, floods and mythic flood stories 3 Mythic theme 2 Hebrew story of the flood

The flood, floods and mythic flood stories 4 Mythic theme 3 Chinese mythology

The flood, floods and mythic flood stories 5 Indian region

The flood, floods and mythic flood stories 6 European myths

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