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But Kyiv & Washington did not reach an agreement on 2 sticking points: the fate of Ukrainian-held territory in #Donetsk & control of a major #NuclearPlant currently occupied by #Russia. On the second point, Kyiv offered to manage the plant jointly with the US [🤦🏼♀️] as a form of compromise.
It remained unclear how the proposed Ukrainian concessions not yet accepted by the #US would be communicated by American officials to Moscow.
#geopolitics #Ukraine #Donetsk #DMZ #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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#Zelensky portrayed the plan as Ukraine’s best effort to end the #war & said it was now up to #Russia to decide how to respond. He said that the new draft was being presented to Russia by the #US, & that Kyiv expected a reply by Wednesday evening.
The Ukrainian leader said the various points in the plan “largely reflect the joint Ukrainian American position.”
#geopolitics #Ukraine #Donetsk #DMZ #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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The proposal forms part of a revised 20-point peace plan that was drawn up by #Ukraine & the #US in the past few weeks & that #Zelensky presented to reporters Tuesday. The blueprint covers a broad range of issues, from potential territorial arrangements to the #security guarantees Kyiv wants to prevent future Russian aggression, as well as plans to rebuild the war-ravaged nation.
#geopolitics #Russia #Donetsk #DMZ #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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But the proposal also hinted at the significant gaps that remain between #Ukraine & #Russia. Zelensky’s offer of a #DMZ came with a condition — Russia would have to pull its forces from an equivalent stretch of land in #Donetsk. So far, the Kremlin has given no indication that it is willing to accept anything less than full control over the region.
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#Russia or Russian-backed separatists have claimed parts of the region since 2014, but they have never been able to conquer the entirety of the region by force.
#Trump has not publicly commented on #Putin’s demand for all of #Donetsk, which has not previously been reported. Trump did not endorse the Russian request in his public statement Friday after a high-stakes meeting with #Zelensky.
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#Putin has tried & failed to conquer the territory for 11 years, repeatedly repulsed by #Ukraine forces who are deeply entrenched in an area they believe is a major bulwark against a speedy Russian advance westward toward their capital.
Putin’s focus on #Donetsk suggests he is not backing away from past demands that have left the conflict in a stalemate, despite #Trump’s optimism about securing a deal, the officials said….#Trump #TACO #Russia #LandGrab #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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#Putin demanded #Ukraine surrender key #territory in call with #Trump
The demand from Putin would significantly disadvantage Ukraine & could be an obstacle to peace, officials said.
Putin in a phone call this week with #TACO demanded that Kyiv surrender full control of #Donetsk, a strategically vital region in eastern Ukraine, as a condition for ending the war, said two senior officials familiar with the conversation.
#Russia #LandGrab #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/10/18/putin-trump-donetsk-war-ukraine/ -
Nope. Not unless their demands have changed.
#Russia proposes to #Ukraine date & venue for *peace* talks, expects a reply
Vladimir Medinsky, the head of Russia's delegation at peace talks on Ukraine, said on Wednesday he had sent proposals to Ukraine with a date & venue to exchange memorandums, or conditions, to stop the fighting.
#geopolitics #StandWithUkraine #NATO #GiveNoGround
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-proposes-ukraine-date-venue-peace-talks-expects-reply-2025-05-28/ -
Not gonna happen.
#Russia demanded #Ukraine pull its troops out of all the Ukrainian regions *claimed* by Moscow before they would agree to a ceasefire, a senior Ukrainian official familiar with the talks told Reuters.
#geopolitics #StandWithUkraine #GiveNoGround #democracy
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-demanded-kyiv-pull-back-troops-before-ceasefire-ukrainian-source-says-2025-05-17/ -
The #Ukraine / #Europe proposal requires #Russia to unconditionally return all deported & illegally displaced Ukrainian #children. Exchange of all prisoners of war (the principle of "all for all"). Russia must release all civilian prisoners.
The #Trump / #SteveWitkoff proposal makes ZERO mention of the Ukrainian children abducted by Russia nor does it concern itself with #POWs.
#geopolitics #war #PutinsPuppet #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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The #Ukraine / #Europe proposal specifies that Ukraine will be fully reconstructed & compensated financially, including through Russian sovereign assets that will remain frozen until #Russia compensates damage to Ukraine.
It adds, #US #sanctions imposed on Russia since 2014 may be subject to gradual easing AFTER a SUSTAINABLE PEACE is achieved & subject to resumption in the event of a breach.
#geopolitics #Trump #PutinsPuppet #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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The #Trump / #SteveWitkoff proposal gives no details on how or with what moneys #Ukraine will be compensated & reconstructed.
All it says is, “Ukraine to be fully reconstructed & compensated financially.”The #US proposal completely & immediately lifts #sanctions imposed on #Russia since 2014. And it states that the US & Russia will begin an economic relationship “on energy & other industrial sectors.”
#geopolitics #Russia #war #PutinsPuppet #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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The #Trump / #SteveWitkoff proposal provides US de jure recognition of Russian control of Crimea, Luhansk as well as parts of Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk, & Kherson.
The #Ukraine / #Europe proposal states, “Territorial issues will be discussed & resolved after a full and unconditional ceasefire.”
#geopolitics #Russia #war #PutinsPuppet #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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The #Trump / #SteveWitkoff proposal requires that Ukraine not seek #NATO membership [a long demand of Putin’s]
The #Ukraine / #Europe proposal states, “Ukraine receives robust security guarantees including from the US (Article 5-like agreement), while there is no consensus among Allies on NATO membership.”
#geopolitics #Russia #war #PutinsPuppet #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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As you can see, the two proposals differ remarkably from each other. The #Trump / #SteveWitkoff proposal offers no explicit guarantee of #security from the #US, only European states & “willing non-European states”
The #Ukraine / #Europe proposal states, “Ceasefire monitoring, led by the US & supported by third countries.”
#geopolitics #Russia #war #PutinsPuppet #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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The primary areas of difference in the two texts are over the sequencing for resolving questions over #territory, the lifting of #sanctions on #Russia, #security guarantees & the size of #Ukraine's military.
While some of the divergences have been highlighted by sources close to the talks, the documents seen by Reuters set out for the first time the differences in full & explicit detail.
#geopolitics #Trump #PutinsPuppet #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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The Russian attack killed at least 12 people & wounded ~90 others, emergency authorities said, in one of the deadliest attacks on the capital in nearly a year.
The strike is the latest in a devastating series of #Russia attacks on #civilians in #Ukraine & comes as #Trump is pushing Kyiv to cede territory to end the war, enraging Ukrainians who increasingly feel abandoned by DC & are turning to #Europe for support.
#authoritarianism #appeasement #geopolitics #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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#Russia launched a massive missile & drone attack on Ukrainian cities early Thursday, prompting a rare rebuke from #Trump, who called the deadly attack “not necessary, & very bad timing.”
“Vladimir, STOP!” he wrote on social media, referring to #Putin. Trump has generally refrained from criticizing Russia’s conduct in the war & has instead denounced #Ukraine, claiming they are reluctant to end the conflict.#appeasement #geopolitics #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/24/ukraine-war-russia-missile-drone-attack-kyiv/ -
Lower-level diplomats from #Britain, #France, #Germany, #Ukraine, & the #UnitedStates still gathered for technical talks. But the absence of #MarcoRubio or #SteveWitkoff, #Trump’s chief negotiator w/ #Russia, renewed fears that Ukraine & #Europe were being marginalized [abandoned] as the #Trump admin seemed to be working primarily w/Russia.
#authoritarianism #appeasement #NewWorldOrder #geopolitics #democracy #NATO #alliance #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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“The current lines, or somewhere close to them, is where you’re ultimately, I think, going to draw the new lines in the conflict,” Vance added. “Now, of course, that means the Ukrainians & the Russians are both going to have to give up some of the territory they currently own.” [um, seems like it’s just the Ukrainians]
#JDVance did not say what territory #Russia would have to give up. Russia currently occupies 18.7% of #Ukraine….
#Trump #appeasement #geopolitics #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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The #threat by #JDVance to walk away from peace talks were similar to comments last wk from Secy of #State #MarcoRubio & from #Trump, who said…if the 2 sides don’t agree quickly to a deal, “we’re just going to say, ‘You’re foolish, you’re fools, you’re horrible people, & we’re going to just take a pass.’”
Wed, Vance said under the US proposal, “We’re going to freeze the territorial lines at some level close to where they are today.” [not his call]
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On Wednesday afternoon, #YuliaSvyrydenko, the Ukrainian economy minister, also vowed that her country “will never recognize the occupation of #Crimea.” Writing on social media she said that “#Ukraine is ready to negotiate—but not to surrender. There will be no agreement that hands #Russia the stronger foundations it needs to regroup & return with greater violence.”
#Trump #authoritarianism #appeasement #NewWorldOrder #geopolitics #democracy #NATO #alliance #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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“We’ve issued a very explicit proposal to both the Russians & the Ukrainians, & it’s time for them to either say yes or for the #UnitedStates to walk away from this process.…The only way to really stop the killing is for the armies to both put down their weapons, to freeze this thing and to get on with the business of actually building a better #Russia & a better #Ukraine,” #JDVance said.
#Trump #authoritarianism #appeasement #geopolitics #democracy #alliance #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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#JDVance, speaking during a trip to India, said the #US would “walk away” from the *peace* process if both Ukraine & #Russia refused to accept the American [Russian] terms. But President Zelensky was clearly the target.
#Trump #authoritarianism #appeasement #NewWorldOrder #geopolitics #democracy #NATO #alliance #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
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Fuck that
#JDVance on Wednesday called on #Ukraine to accept an American *peace* proposal that closely aligns w/longstanding #Russia goals, including a “freeze” of territorial lines in the 3+yr war, acceptance of the #annexation of #Crimea by Russia & a prohibition on Ukraine becoming part of the #NATO #alliance.
#Trump #PutinsPuppet #authoritarianism #appeasement #geopolitics #GiveNoGround #StandWithUkraine
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/23/world/europe/ukraine-cease-fire-talks-london.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=p&pvid=1086C177-1E64-4AAB-A5C8-E5E7338C95E3 -
Voting against both the #Ukraine resolution & the amendments to the US version would put the #UnitedStates on the side of a small minority, including #Russia, in the 193-member General Assembly.
A #State Dept official…said the #US would also introduce its resolution at a meeting of the 15-member #UNSC later Monday & would veto any amendments.#geopolitics #Trump #Putin #autocracy #democracy #StandWithUkraine #GiveNoGround
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#US interim #UN representative Dorothy Camille Shea said the #UnitedStates would also vote against amendments to its own resolution, sponsored by France & a group of other European countries inserting a commitment to #Ukraine’s territorial integrity. The amendments were a clear sign that leading US allies are prepared to buck heavy diplomatic pressure from the #Trump admin in recent days.
#geopolitics #Russia #Putin #autocracy #democracy #StandWithUkraine #GiveNoGround