#gishgallop — Public Fediverse posts

@lowqualityfacts
If a multi-classed wizard-fighter casts Phantom Steed (or the Mount spell in previous editions) and rides at full speed, does that count as a Gish Gallop?

#DnD #Humor #GishGallop

🐕🐶🐩🐕‍🦺 #Satire #GishGallop #news #Dogs #uspol #TheWeave

For those who don't know it, the Gish Gallop, which I used as a metaphor in the post above, has a Wikipedia page, which describes it this way:

"The Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm an opponent by presenting an excessive number of arguments, with no regard for their accuracy or strength, with a rapidity that makes it impossible for the opponent to address them in the time available. Gish galloping prioritizes the quantity of the galloper's arguments at the expense of their quality. "

My use was re-purposing it from the debate stage to the modern legal landscape (and now, using this technique, battlefield).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

#GishGallop

A few hours ago, @nytimes wrote:

«"It is very clear that, if there is a middle of all of this hot mess of division, Americans want us to work together when we can and find common ground," Sen. Amy Klobuchar tells the Opinion writer Michelle Cottle.»

I'm going to pray that they've been sitting on that quote for weeks and that it's not the evidence of dangerous cluelessness by Klobuchar that it appears to be.

I think Americans want first for Congress to save Democracy, Amy. Because control of the public's attention is easily manipulated in social media, they may not realize it's in mortal danger, but it's Congress' job to know that fact.

If they, Democrats and Republicans alike, aren't describing it as a full-on assault on the Constitution, a coup, a sudden & complete dismantling of Democracy via a prior published & detailed plan, then they aren't solving the right problem and show no evidence of paying attention.

Even 4 years ago, on January 6, it wasn't "business as usual". We needed Congress on that day to continue a Constitutional government but NOT to hear budget debates and such mundane legislative things. We knew we were UNDER ATTACK.

This, now, today, is an ESCALATION OF THAT ATTACK, and she's talking like she wants to ignore it, treating this as an ordinary work day. Work together by IMPEACHING maybe, but nothing less. Do not underestimate the seriousness and urgency of what's going on. Do not get distracted.

If Congressfolk don't see this as an escalation, maybe because it's a "white collar" attack not (yet) involving guns, they can't respond properly. They must stop talking about this as something to legislate their way out of. We in the US are under a real time administrative assault. Stop taking weekends & holidays. This is not a schedulable event. They are preying on your willingness to pretend it can have a leisurely pace.

Congress has long been soft on white collar crime, treating it as a privilege of the elite, the donor class. Perhaps it's become invisible to them, even as it's far more sweeping and hurtful than much street crime. Maybe a white collar coup is then likewise invisible. We need them to wake up and SEE.

This time they're using ID cards to get into buildings they're taking over, but there's more to Constitutional government than right of entry. The Constitution spells out limits on power. They're violating limits so fast they can't all be checked fast enough. A Gish gallop assault on policy & power.

Sadly, I predicted this crisis on the ex-bird site Oct 13, 2016 (before 2016 vote). Talking Points Memo (TPM) had cited USA Today on Trump's propensity for legal challenges. I expected the same with Constitutional challenges. Just as happened. Our system barely handles a few challenges a year, not thousands.

#USPolitics #politics #USCongress #Congress #democracy #coup #TrumpCoup #oligarchy #fascism #authoritarianism #attack #assault #Jan6 #SCOTUS #Constitution #Lawless #Project2025 #TPM #Klobuchar #Senate #WhiteCollarCrime #WhiteCollarCoup #GishGallop

(This post is an expanded form of a thread I just posted to BlueSky.)

@mls14 @karlbode.com

This is just the latest #GishGallop #news. 💯

At least it's not mean tweets because he is contractually obligated nyet to post there anymore.

Ui, ich hatte gerade ein Gespräch mit jemandem aus der Krankenpflege, nicht gegen #Covid geimpft, #Lauterbach hat nie Medizin studiert sagt seine Ex-Frau, ein Motorradunfall sollte als ‚an Covid verstorben’ aufgenommen werden, Trump ist gut für den Frieden, etc. pp.
Jede einzelne dieser Geschichten nochmal nachträglich zu wiederlegen oder einzuordnen würde jeweils eine Stunde Recherche erfordern.
Schwierig ist, dass derjenige nett ist und ich ihm regelmäßig begegne.
#GishGallop

The amount of people learning about the #GishGallop increased today! 💯

So... How's today's #news #GishGallop going for you? 😋🔍🧐

Trump’s debate tactic: a flame blower of lies and deception known as the Gish gallop

"American debates still operate around the assumption that each participant will argue in good faith…[yet Trump] consistently laid waste to debate protocol"

https://themoderatevoice.com/trumps-debate-tactic-a-flame-blower-of-lies-and-deception-known-as-the-gish-gallop/

#USPolitics
#Trump
#Debate
#GishGallop
#JournalisticMalpactice
#Society
#disinformation

@M0YNG What's the term for spewing a bunch of lies and half-truths rapidly so that someone else doesn't have a chance to respond? #gishgallop yeah. That's the technique my coworker used on me during the meeting.

#GishGallop

"Trump, as anyone even half paying attention to his speeches knows, is an expert at the Gish gallop. He projects the utmost confidence while bombastically repeating lie after lie until it overwhelms his audience into either accepting every word he says as the truth, or walking off in disgust because there is no way to get him to acknowledge any truth."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trumps-weird-debate-strategies-come-from-creationist-tactics/

#Trump #GishGallop #ChristianNationalism #USPol

204) Speaking of lie velocity ⬆️, #NPR gives some sense of just how challenging it is to keep up with #Trump fact free zone

Here’s their take on 162 lies and distortions floating out of. #BigOrange’s mouth at #MarALago last week. Can anybody say #GishGallop?

Each assertion presents an opportunity for the #NewsMedia to call BS on #DonaldTrump, but how often do you see that?

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/11/nx-s1-5070566/trump-news-conference

#Election2024 #USPol #USPolitics #Politics

Yes, the NABJ interview with Trump showed what a disaster he is, but a word of warning to everyone interviewing him (or trying to debate him): he will talk over you, loudly, and drown you out with nonsense when you try to call him out on lies, errors, misstatements, or failure to answer a question.

It's called Gish Galloping or "spreading" and it's hard to overcome.
#gishgallop

#gishgallop #gaslight
Sociopathic ex Pres
What’s this say ‘bout us?
#haiku
Short Story
Chapter 1
We built our country at the expense of others, on war & bondage & greed
Chapter 2
We fought for democracy across the world at the expense of many
Chapter 3
We lied for political gain, changed the rules to get deceptive, plutocratic, faux religious leaders co-opting OUR voices & harming others here & abroad.
Chapter four
Is being written now in order to build #Democracy

Help write it-Vote💙

Trump is now in perfect #GishGallop mode.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop #gishgallop "a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments. Gish galloping prioritizes the quantity of the galloper's arguments at the expense of their quality.” #debates

Managed to book to see him in Manchester this coming May:

#BassemYousef
#GishGallop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0zWo0pKZ8

whilst also reading Andrew Sayer's #WhyWeCantAffordTheRich

https://policy.bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/why-we-cant-afford-the-rich

@libramoon @tofugolem

"Confront your semi-sapient ostrich with a list of distilled challenges, and stay focused on a few, tenaciously! Do not allow them to change the subject from that small set of fact-checkable assertions."

Yes. Grant a budget of one single unsupported claim and hold them to it. One at a time.

Often this will produce intellectual surrender known as "going ad hom," to be remarked.

Confronting honed #GishGallop skills, difficult. But opportunities still avail themselves.