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  1. /Cont'd.
    See degrowthuk.org/2025/09/22/as-u
    And on economy. Where there's a lot to do yet. Nothing approaching (even) the worked out framework of #GettingReal, for example.
    gettingreal.org.uk/
    But there's still time before the next GE.

  2. /Cont'd.
    See degrowthuk.org/2025/09/22/as-u
    And on economy. Where there's a lot to do yet. Nothing approaching (even) the worked out framework of #GettingReal, for example.
    gettingreal.org.uk/
    But there's still time before the next GE.

  3. As #UKLabour flounders and talk of u-turns and leadership challenges abounds, here's a reminder that there's a ready-made lifeline:
    gettingreal.org.uk/full-report
    #GettingReal
    #UKPol

  4. As #UKLabour flounders and talk of u-turns and leadership challenges abounds, here's a reminder that there's a ready-made lifeline:
    gettingreal.org.uk/full-report
    #GettingReal
    #UKPol

  5. Our recommendation from #gettingReal

    "UK defence expenditure should firstly be reduced from 2.2% of GDP to the European Union average of 1.6% (World Bank & Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, n.d.). The actual expenditure would decline further given the managed contracting scale of the economy as a whole. Moreover, the focus would shift from military expenditure to civil defence and civil works."
    see gettingreal.org.uk/full-report page 40.
    #warmongers

  6. Our recommendation from #gettingReal

    "UK defence expenditure should firstly be reduced from 2.2% of GDP to the European Union average of 1.6% (World Bank & Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, n.d.). The actual expenditure would decline further given the managed contracting scale of the economy as a whole. Moreover, the focus would shift from military expenditure to civil defence and civil works."
    see gettingreal.org.uk/full-report page 40.
    #warmongers

  7. @CarbonBubble
    We said the same in #GettingReal
    "#Insurance is a problematic sector. At present, the market-based model of risk
    pooling, that elective insurance offers, means that insurance schemes accumulate money, becoming self-interested players in the financial markets,
    creating all kinds of distortions. In the future, there will be an increase both in premiums and uninsurable risks. /->cont'd.

  8. @CarbonBubble
    We said the same in #GettingReal
    "#Insurance is a problematic sector. At present, the market-based model of risk
    pooling, that elective insurance offers, means that insurance schemes accumulate money, becoming self-interested players in the financial markets,
    creating all kinds of distortions. In the future, there will be an increase both in premiums and uninsurable risks. /->cont'd.

  9. Angela Rayner (and Jonathan Reynolds) would LOSE seat to Reform with Labour suffering huge losses if election was today, poll says - Manchester Evening News

    OK it's only an opinion poll but we know that Labour's huge majority is only because the Tories (and SNP) lost many votes. Starmer got fewer votes than the PM we should have had.

    Time to offer them a lifeline? Well we did that already: gettingreal.org.uk

    manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ne

    #GettingReal #UKPol

  10. Angela Rayner (and Jonathan Reynolds) would LOSE seat to Reform with Labour suffering huge losses if election was today, poll says - Manchester Evening News

    OK it's only an opinion poll but we know that Labour's huge majority is only because the Tories (and SNP) lost many votes. Starmer got fewer votes than the PM we should have had.

    Time to offer them a lifeline? Well we did that already: gettingreal.org.uk

    manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ne

    #GettingReal #UKPol

  11. @markhburton, who coordinated the #GettingReal Initiative, was interviewed by the Spanish web journal 15-15-15.org - @revista. The interview explains the origins and development of the initiative and explores issues such as strategy and communication. It is available in English and in Spanish.
    For the links, via the Getting Real site:
    'An interview about Getting Real' | Getting Real about the Crises Facing the UK
    gettingreal.org.uk/2024/12/17/

  12. @markhburton, who coordinated the #GettingReal Initiative, was interviewed by the Spanish web journal 15-15-15.org - @revista. The interview explains the origins and development of the initiative and explores issues such as strategy and communication. It is available in English and in Spanish.
    For the links, via the Getting Real site:
    'An interview about Getting Real' | Getting Real about the Crises Facing the UK
    gettingreal.org.uk/2024/12/17/

  13. When you see planes on the flight line, with red tags/pins in the armaments and munitions, that is a clear sign of the #ShitJustGotReal, and other the end of this if truly fucked up. B1B can fly at supersonic speed at low altitude, and carrying #Nuclear payload, it's part of the #Triad.

    Also, when all lights are ordered out, even on the flightline, shit got real. When a #Communications #Minimize is put in place, shit is getting real. #GettingReal.

  14. Since writing this, I'm even more convinced of the second of these priorities.
    I see very little serious attempt by progressive political parties to provide decent political education for the public.
    Example: both UK Labour and USA democrat campaigns missed the opportunity to explain why so many migrate. Instead they adopted bits of the far right agenda.
    Could do much better.

    Trump victory shows the need for redistributive policies and political education.
    #GettingReal

    gettingreal.org.uk/2024/11/07/

  15. Since writing this, I'm even more convinced of the second of these priorities.
    I see very little serious attempt by progressive political parties to provide decent political education for the public.
    Example: both UK Labour and USA democrat campaigns missed the opportunity to explain why so many migrate. Instead they adopted bits of the far right agenda.
    Could do much better.

    Trump victory shows the need for redistributive policies and political education.
    #GettingReal

    gettingreal.org.uk/2024/11/07/

  16. Worth giving this another push, what with everything...

    "In a profound ecological and climate crisis, immediate measures are necessary, including substantial reductions in energy and material consumption, with rapid reduction in carbon emissions, alongside a safety net for affected individuals. Yet, with their vacuous mantra of “growth growth growth”, the vast majority of political leaders try to push down hard on the accelerator pedal."

    #EmergencyBrake | #GettingReal

    gettingreal.org.uk/2024/05/02/

  17. Worth giving this another push, what with everything...

    "In a profound ecological and climate crisis, immediate measures are necessary, including substantial reductions in energy and material consumption, with rapid reduction in carbon emissions, alongside a safety net for affected individuals. Yet, with their vacuous mantra of “growth growth growth”, the vast majority of political leaders try to push down hard on the accelerator pedal."

    #EmergencyBrake | #GettingReal

    gettingreal.org.uk/2024/05/02/

  18. It's good to see #WarOnWant pushing for UK to meet its obligations on climate funding in the global South and making the link with Britain's bloated military spending.

    Do sign.

    War on Want | Fighting Global Poverty
    secure.waronwant.org/page/1606

    It's something we cover in #GettingReal see gettingreal.org.uk/full-report page 40 onward.

    #ClimateReparations #CutDefenceSpending

  19. It's good to see #WarOnWant pushing for UK to meet its obligations on climate funding in the global South and making the link with Britain's bloated military spending.

    Do sign.

    War on Want | Fighting Global Poverty
    secure.waronwant.org/page/1606

    It's something we cover in #GettingReal see gettingreal.org.uk/full-report page 40 onward.

    #ClimateReparations #CutDefenceSpending

  20. We agree with increases in Capital Gains and Inheritance Taxes, and in Fuel Duty.
    We don't agree with increases in National Insurance paid by employers.
    There are lots of other opportunities for tax increases that do good, and we spell it out in. #GettingReal
    gettingreal.org.uk/full-report
    #UKBudget

  21. We agree with increases in Capital Gains and Inheritance Taxes, and in Fuel Duty.
    We don't agree with increases in National Insurance paid by employers.
    There are lots of other opportunities for tax increases that do good, and we spell it out in. #GettingReal
    gettingreal.org.uk/full-report
    #UKBudget

  22. Searching for policy alternatives in the UK and beyond?
    Our #GettingReal report is full of them, taking account of the ecological / climate, social and economic crises and bold enough to propose an end to tinkering and instead the adoption of adequate responses. #EmergencyBrake and #PlanForReconstruction.
    To take a look and share.

    Getting Real about the Crises Facing the #UK | Stop the Damage! Build a Better Future!
    gettingreal.org.uk/
    #climate #collapse #austerity #economy #polycrisis

  23. Searching for policy alternatives in the UK and beyond?
    Our #GettingReal report is full of them, taking account of the ecological / climate, social and economic crises and bold enough to propose an end to tinkering and instead the adoption of adequate responses. #EmergencyBrake and #PlanForReconstruction.
    To take a look and share.

    Getting Real about the Crises Facing the #UK | Stop the Damage! Build a Better Future!
    gettingreal.org.uk/
    #climate #collapse #austerity #economy #polycrisis

  24. We agree, and we've other radical, redistributive tax proposals too:

    See gettingreal.org.uk/wp-content/ Appendix 3.

    Ed Davey calls for inheritance tax reform so rich pay more - BBC News
    bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgnne

    #GettingReal

  25. We agree, and we've other radical, redistributive tax proposals too:

    See gettingreal.org.uk/wp-content/ Appendix 3.

    Ed Davey calls for inheritance tax reform so rich pay more - BBC News
    bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgnne

    #GettingReal

  26. @degrowthuk
    I wrote to both the Star and the Guardian.The Morning Star published my letter on Friday.
    Always worth doing to amplify a message.
    #GettingReal #Ecosocialism #Degrowth

  27. @degrowthuk
    I wrote to both the Star and the Guardian.The Morning Star published my letter on Friday.
    Always worth doing to amplify a message.
    #GettingReal #Ecosocialism #Degrowth

  28. I hate it when people patronisingly preface their posts with "Your periodic reminder....", but here's one you might just have missed.

    #GettingReal is a #degrowth-based alternative #policy programme for the #UK.
    It will be needed when the new government begins to founder on the rocks of ecological, climate and social realities.
    gettingreal.org.uk
    Full doc: gettingreal.org.uk/wp-content/

  29. I hate it when people patronisingly preface their posts with "Your periodic reminder....", but here's one you might just have missed.

    #GettingReal is a #degrowth-based alternative #policy programme for the #UK.
    It will be needed when the new government begins to founder on the rocks of ecological, climate and social realities.
    gettingreal.org.uk
    Full doc: gettingreal.org.uk/wp-content/

  30. Today's Morning Star has several thoughtful articles on resisting fascism.
    This one by Alan Simpson floats the idea of a civilian conservation corps, linking restorative justice with the 'wild weather' upheavals of climate change. We suggested something similar in #GettingReal (see below)
    Is there a rainbow beyond the riots? |
    morningstaronline.co.uk/articl
    For the Getting Real passage, see gettingreal.org.uk/wp-content/ 40. It's brief and in the context of #demilitarisation.
    #fascism #Conservation

  31. Today's Morning Star has several thoughtful articles on resisting fascism.
    This one by Alan Simpson floats the idea of a civilian conservation corps, linking restorative justice with the 'wild weather' upheavals of climate change. We suggested something similar in #GettingReal (see below)
    Is there a rainbow beyond the riots? |
    morningstaronline.co.uk/articl
    For the Getting Real passage, see gettingreal.org.uk/wp-content/ 40. It's brief and in the context of #demilitarisation.
    #fascism #Conservation

  32. @RadicalAnthro
    A good start but there needs to be a lot more, as we spell out in #GettingReal

    gettingreal.org.uk/

    2 parts: #EmergencyBrake to stop the damage and a plan for reconstruction for a better Britain within ecological limits.

  33. @RadicalAnthro
    A good start but there needs to be a lot more, as we spell out in #GettingReal

    gettingreal.org.uk/

    2 parts: #EmergencyBrake to stop the damage and a plan for reconstruction for a better Britain within ecological limits.

  34. #GE2024
    Labour in government, day1.
    We need a serious approach to the ecological, social and economic challenges, nay emergencies, facing us all. Some in Labour and to its green left understand this.

    Luckily there's a coherent statement outlining what's needed, with indicative policies.
    gettingreal.org.uk/

    Will you endorse the #GettingReal initiative?

    Show your support for Getting Real – Getting Real about the Crises Facing the UK
    gettingreal.org.uk/show-your-s

  35. #GE2024
    Labour in government, day1.
    We need a serious approach to the ecological, social and economic challenges, nay emergencies, facing us all. Some in Labour and to its green left understand this.

    Luckily there's a coherent statement outlining what's needed, with indicative policies.
    gettingreal.org.uk/

    Will you endorse the #GettingReal initiative?

    Show your support for Getting Real – Getting Real about the Crises Facing the UK
    gettingreal.org.uk/show-your-s

  36. @markhburton "But if the election revolves around immigration and public spending limits, an incoming Labour government will have the shortest honeymoon ever. Anything that sidelines the climate emergency will be swept aside by it."
    They'll then need #GettingReal

    See gettingreal.org.uk

  37. @markhburton "But if the election revolves around immigration and public spending limits, an incoming Labour government will have the shortest honeymoon ever. Anything that sidelines the climate emergency will be swept aside by it."
    They'll then need #GettingReal

    See gettingreal.org.uk

  38. Help with the wake up call.
    Read and promote #GettingReal's alternative manifesto.
    We'll need it when everything goes wrong for the next government.
    gettingreal.org.uk

  39. Help with the wake up call.
    Read and promote #GettingReal's alternative manifesto.
    We'll need it when everything goes wrong for the next government.
    gettingreal.org.uk

  40. There is a political vacuum.
    No party has a serious and comprehensive response to the triple crisis facing us in the UK and everywhere else.
    But there's a comprehensive vision, #GettingReal for a sustainable future, advocating for bold policy changes across key sectors to address pressing environmental and social challenges while promoting a fair and equitable society.
    #WakeUp #GE2024
    gettingreal.org.uk

  41. There is a political vacuum.
    No party has a serious and comprehensive response to the triple crisis facing us in the UK and everywhere else.
    But there's a comprehensive vision, #GettingReal for a sustainable future, advocating for bold policy changes across key sectors to address pressing environmental and social challenges while promoting a fair and equitable society.
    #WakeUp #GE2024
    gettingreal.org.uk

  42. A more sensible approach to #tax, from #GettingReal

    "In short, the government can use taxation to shift away from economic activity that's damaging, reducing poverty and inequality,  and raising needed revenue for needed things.
    It needn't fall on most people but must hit the wealthy and those on high incomes.

    "It's not difficult, and would be overwhelming popular if well crafted."
    mstdn.social/@degrowthuk/11257

  43. A more sensible approach to #tax, from #GettingReal

    "In short, the government can use taxation to shift away from economic activity that's damaging, reducing poverty and inequality,  and raising needed revenue for needed things.
    It needn't fall on most people but must hit the wealthy and those on high incomes.

    "It's not difficult, and would be overwhelming popular if well crafted."
    mstdn.social/@degrowthuk/11257

  44. Read more about #GettingReal's ideas on #tax with an appendix full of indicative proposals.
    gettingreal.org.uk/wp-content/

    In short, the government can use taxation to shift away from economic activity that's damaging, reducing poverty and inequality, and raising needed revenue for needed things.
    It needn't fall on most people but must hit the wealthy and those on high incomes.

    It's not difficult, and would be overwhelming popular if well crafted.

    /Thread ends

    #TaxDebate #PropertyTax #UKPolitics