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I guess it is time to say that #Fluffychat and #Element is looking for a new maintainer of the #Norwegian bokmål #translations. It has been fun, but I don’t have time to continue with these projects.

#Matrix

Yesterday, I got invited into a #matrix chatroom for the first time. (I have a #tuwunel server and #fluffychat client)

Talking uniquely about text messages, I think Matrix could replace many #chat apps:
- Facebook #messenger
- #telegram
- #whatsapp
- etc.

But only if you don't use voice, video and screen sharing too much. I haven't tried them, but I've heard some people saying it's not good enough yet even though some features might already exist.

I guess it really depends on your needs, but I don't think it's good enough to replace #discord yet.

We would need at least voice chats to work nicely. You can still use #mumble but there's no way to have a one app that truly does everything yet.

What the heck is wrong with :matrix: #matrix? We're looking for a platform for communication during a larger measurement campaign and from the featureset concluded with either #Mattermost or Matrix (subgroups, archivable, mobile/desktop/web clients, etc.).

But the #ElementX app and #FluffyChat app just won't even list the rooms in our space (on matrix.org, maybe that's the problem...), they just load forever. No problem in element web or #Schildichat. What. the. heck.

Gave #matrix a try. Installed #synapse, #elementweb, #cinny on my RPi, and #fluffychat on mobile. SNI proxy on a VPS routes traffic to the home server to keep secret keys secret (yep, HTTPS everywhere makes no sense if everyone keeps their secrets in cloud)

What a bloatware! It's lame and messy. I'm afraid to show it to normies who I want to communicate with me.

No, no, no. This guy was right https://マリウス.com/giving-up-on-element-and-matrixorg/ XMPP is our everything.

Yuck.

Gave #matrix a try. Installed #synapse, #elementweb, #cinny on my RPi, and #fluffychat on mobile. SNI proxy on a VPS routes traffic to the home server to keep secret keys secret (yep, HTTPS everywhere makes no sense if everyone keeps their secrets in cloud)

What a bloatware! It's lame and messy. I'm afraid to show it to normies who I want to communicate with me.

No, no, no. This guy was right https://マリウス.com/giving-up-on-element-and-matrixorg/ XMPP is our everything.

Yuck.

Nextcloud
SearxNG
Grist
LibreTranslate
Paperless-ngx
Immich

Seit heute
Matrix-Synapse und Element Webclient

Edit: der Matrix Server ist dann doch #Tuwunel geworden und als Webclients sind #Cinny und #Fluffychat instaliert

Was braucht man denn sonst noch so?

#dutgemacht

Another #HowTo, this time how to use #Signal on #Android without giving it broad media permissions.

Signal does not use the 2 possible secure methods of accessint photos that Android offers, and clones #Whatsapp in that regard.

By insisting on needing access to read all your images, while being a complex app connected to the internet, and the only official versions containing proprietary #Google #blobs.

Links:
- https://community.signalusers.org/t/46828
- https://community.signalusers.org/t/55725

Other messengers like #SimpleX, #Element, #ElementX, #Fluffychat, #Conversations, #Threema and more save themselves the effort and just use the builtin options, improving security by design and unnecessary code bloat.

So, how can I use Signal without trusting it with all my images?

1. Use the "Share" Portal.

That is the obvious one, and a very nice feature on Android. It allows to share any media to an application and giving it access to only that.

This also works across the #WorkProfile or #PrivateSpace and can be used by Apps like #SaveTo to transfer files.

The workflow is often slower than just using the media chooser portal, but it works. It is what I use since years.

2. Android hacks

But this is not all. Setting a profile picture or group profile picture does not work through the share portal. So we use a Feature specific to Androids Sandbox:

- All apps can save files to various default directories like Pictures, Movies, Music, Downloads, Documents; without having read access to it.
- And all apps can access files they themself saved there.

Combining these two features, you can send a picture to Signal and use the "Save locally" button to save it from within the app.

The result is that this picture will be visible in Signals internal gallery and can be selected for profile and group pictures.

Obvious downsides are
- it is a stupid workflow
- it duplicates images that you need to delete manually afterwards
- pictures might be compressed twice, losing quality

But for this very limited purpose, it is kinda fine.

Still, @signalapp please solve this very old issue!

@[email protected] @[email protected]

Matrix使用入门基础——用户向 :blob_dance:

理念

所有的一切都是开源的、免费的！

本文以我自建的服务器Homeserver为例，URL为： https://chat.feddit.social ，fork版本为matrix-synapse

Matrix普遍用于去中心化，端到端加密聊天，可以通过自建维护Matrix实例，

Matrix的权限管理十分详细，

在Matrix上，你可以

• 和本服务器的用户 聊天
• 和在本服务器的聊天室的用户 聊天
• 和其他Matrix系服务器的用户 聊天
• 和在其他服务器的聊天室的用户 聊天

注册

注册需要一个非零时邮件(为了找回密码)，然后通过邮件激活账户

考虑方便程度，在此使用Cinny Web端

Fluffychat Web端没有注册功能，Element Web端访问不稳定

登录

注意！
自建的Matrix不提供聊天前端，代表不能和Mastodon一样，在上面注册登录发帖等，Matrix的注册、登录、聊天都需要依靠第三方客户端！

登录可以有多种方法，一定要记住把matrix.org换成chat.feddit.social（或者其他）

• 在PC上，推荐使用浏览器访问：https://app.cinny.in/login/chat.feddit.social

• 在Mobile上，推荐使用FluffyChat APP和网页版，Cinny网页版

  个人来说不推荐任何Matrix"官方"的App或者Web客户端，比如Element、ElementX

  更多客户端可以在此寻找： https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients （需要翻墙）

当你在另外一个客户端（App、Web）登录，会提示你需要验证客户端，这时候，你需要同时在两个客户端完成验证。

一般来说，在新客户端登录，为了安全是不会有个人聊天记录（群组另算，看具体设置）

如果登录后想要显示之前的聊天记录，需要在Setting打开Chat Backup，然后保存Es开头的恢复密钥！所以：

• 一定要好好保管恢复密钥
• 一定要记住恢复密钥保存的位置

下一次在新的客户端登录，就可以选择填写此恢复密钥恢复聊天记录

群组配置

我重新更新了配置，使你可以公开你创建的房间"Publish to Directory"，便于感兴趣的人加入

目前：

• Fluffy Chat(App、Web)不支持，只能搜索

• Cinny（App、Web，Cinny App 只有PC版）支持此功能，即explore群组

Matrix的设计逻辑：主要分为用户，群组，空间、子空间

1. 用户之间的聊天独立

2. 空间包括群组和子空间、子空间内不仅可以创建群组，而且还能创建"子子空间"...子子孙孙无穷匮也

提醒：

• 如果不是特别敏感的聊天，不建议开启"Room Encryption"，没有好好的配置前提下，会让你的多端聊天变得破败，而且此操作不能被取消！

就写到这里来，很多东西还是需要实际操作，学习起来更快

下期记录自己搭建Matrix-Synapse Homeserver

多次搭建过Matrix-Homeserver、本服务器已平稳运行2025.10.4——今日，可通过访问 https://chat.feddit.social/_matrix/static 确认服务区情况，也可以之间在Fediverse私信/回复我。

@worldboard @board
#matrix #matrix_synapse #linux #opensource #fluffychat #cinny #chat #聊天 #社区 #community #selfhost #selfhosting

#FluffyChat just shit the bed, I tried to read an announcement from a while back and it just scrolled continually up, now my #continuwuity server’s not responding

Who needs (electron) Element when you have (tauri) #Cinny and (flutter) #FluffyChat ?

#matrix

Fluffychat is the only one app for matrix for a old #iphone6 but ...

> Looks like WebRTC.framework/WebRTC (which was built for iOS 13.0) indicates that it is the fault of the webrtc plugin which needs iOS 13 at least. I don't know a workaround here so I fear that there is no way to fix it :-/ Only way seems to be to drop support for iOS 12 if no one else has an idea

Do you have an idea?

#fluffychat #dart #flutter #matrix #opensource #ios #ios12 #question #help #dev #webrtc #iphone

https://github.com/krille-chan/fluffychat/issues/724#issuecomment-2980192700

Why is #Matrix so bad?

I really want to love Matrix, but it's terrible. Let's not get into that it's more #IRC than Discord, and there's a reason why #Discord, despite its drawbacks managed to get such a big mind share, that's beside the point, but relevant and we'll come back to how.

Many different things I have installed offer instant messages as a way to follow communities, get support, etc and I really don't wanna use something I use personally or I have issues with due to whatever corporate fuckeries they undertake. This means I generally want to avoid #Telegram, #Signal or #Discord.

As a result, I ended up leaning into using a Matrix. It feels like the best of the rest and that's because it's lead by a bunch of old men who don't understand why people prefer Discord over IRC.

Anyway, what made me really commit was that I finally found a client that could do multiple accounts. So I had #Faraday installed and though a bit temperamental, things were working fine.

One month ago, Faraday updated, because it's forked from an old version of #Schildichat and shit was outdated. So after some prompting the developer updated it a bit. It broke the client completely and wouldn't open. I impatiently waited and one month later a new update was released that still never fixed my issue. I thought, no way can the developer and #FDroid be that collectively incompetent, which means it's probably on my end. So I cleared storage on my other phone and the app opened. Hooray!

So I ran to my main phone and reset storage. Finally Faraday opened and then it began… Or didn't. Because once I logged in and it crashed, as it does, it was stuck on the Initial Sync, waiting for a server response. I didn't wanna be impatient, so I waited and waited and waited and nothing changed. Clear cache, clear storage, uninstall and reinstall, nothing changed.

So I'm thinking something has to be wrong, so eventually I said let me check with a stock app, so I grab #ElementX and log in and suddenly I get this stuff about authentication and I'm like WTF?

Now I swear down. I hate #privacy zealots. If you work in software, get them away from your decision making process. I don't dispute they have valuable input, but it's at the cost of the end product, every single time.

So I'm there trying to authenticate a device and I'm stressing because I just want all my old chats back. These aren't even private chats, they're public chats. I just don't wanna have to go hunting down room addresses again. But Matrix is making this harder than it needs to be and seem scarier than it needs to be.

In the end I realised that I didn't have another device to authenticate me and I didn't have the encryption codes saved. I ended up trying to circumvent it by using a web based client, which didn't work. And after some anxiety, I said fuck it and reset and then I'm finally in and find all chats preserved. But now at the bottom of all the rooms it says it's not encrypted and I'm like, fuck!

Turns out this has nothing to do with the encryption before. I found this out later. Anyway, so I'm trying to authenticate Element X using the browser and that refuses to work, because switching screens is bad, so I'm forced to use two devices. Give me strength! And then hilariously the Element X doesn't want to authenticate anything else. Yay, you're useful.

So my question is, when all these old arse developers who have clearly dreamed the same dream for fifty years were sitting around, why didn't anyone ask why it needed to be so hard. Secret agents are using Signal not Matrix. Even if you were adamant, why couldn't you just use a #TOTP? Problem solved, less friction. Why_can't_you_just_be_normal.gif

Anyway, now that I'm back in, I try Faraday again and it's still not working. I'm forced to give it up, I actually didn't mind the #UX and the icon is better than Schildichat. So I search for a new client with multi account support and the only choices are cross platform clients, ugh. I end up going with #FluffyChat and the UX isn't great, which is part and parcel of anything developed to run across platforms. I would rather something someone made for Android with love and understanding every time. But alas.

Even then, I had to log into the web to authenticate, because for some reason we can't just have a #2FA TOTP pop-up. Ugh!

Oh and the mind share thing was because they were targeting modern needs as opposed to trying to recreate an out of favour platform or bury people with terrible UX.

This week in #FDroid (TWIF) is live:

* #Nextcloud store shenanigans
* #Cheogram in Space-s
* #DeltaChat and #ArcaneChat fork
* #FluffyChat feature full
* #Tachiyomi successor #Kahon
* #Inure #reproducible
* #PasswordStore fork
* #ReplicantOS and #NGI
* #NewPipe out of the 360p jail
+ 12 new apps
+ 195 updates

Go beyond clouds in https://f-droid.org/2025/05/15/twif.html

Gestern war ich auf der #DMEA

https://www.dmea.de/de/about/dmea/
Nur wenige Stunden, aber interessante Talks zu Themen wie #MFA, #Cloud und #Messenging im Gesundheitswesen. Hier fand ich die Präsentationen von #famedly recht interssant. Ein Anbieter von TK Messenger https://www.famedly.com/ den ich selbst auch beruflich seit einiger Zeit teste. Er nutzt das #matrix Protokoll. Und wie ich erfahren durfte, arbeitet deren Chef wohl auch mit an #fluffychat der Multiaccount Messenger.

@stereo exakt - es kommt darauf an. Und das ist auch gut so.

#Fluffychat und #Tammy können #Multiaccount.

Also man kann sich einen 0815-Account für große Räume einrichten (wer geht schon mit Signal in große (=riesige) Gruppen? Die Option gibt es da meines Wissens erst gar nicht).

Und mit dem "echten Privat-Account" ist man halt in Familie, bei Freunden, im Verein unterwegs. Die (Meta-)Daten liegen _immer nur auf den beteiligten_ Servern eines Raumes. Also niemand hat zentral Zugriff auf gigantische Datenmengen. Von wegen "metadaten in aller Welt verstreuen" - das sollte man schon differenzieren und im Klassenverteiler sind noch Menschen mit hotmail-, gmail-, gmx- und so E-Mail-Accounts und das stört die nicht die Bohne.

Fazit:
Ich halte das Metadaten-"Problem" nur in besonderen Fällen für ein Problem. Und da ist dann sicher nicht #Signal die Lösung, sondern eher #briar.
Und ja - wünschenswert wäre, es würden weniger dieser Daten iwo liegen. Aber den Kompromiss halte ich für unseren gelebten Alltag einfach genial.

@n2o @z428eu @kuketzblog @ulrichkelber

edit: typo

#matrix #metadaten

Ich kenne (und empfehle) da so n #messenger #protokoll

#matrix #element #elementx #fluffychat #tammy #bridge #signal #whatsapp

📬 Tarnkappe.info bietet Chat-Raum für Matrix
#Intern #Cinny #Element #FluffyChat #Matrix #Syphon https://sc.tarnkappe.info/3d6337

If you like @[email protected] and #DislikeDiscord then please join our #homeassistant #matrix room using #MatrixClient s like #Element #FluffyChat #Cinny #GnomeFractal #Fractal #Schildichat etc. #MatrixRoom #SmartHome @[email protected] #foss #opensource https://matrix.to/#/#Home-Assistant:matrix.org

Bisher:
#Element und #Schildichat starten nicht.
#Fluffychat macht einen guten Job
#Fractal sieht auch gut aus
#Nheko macht auch bisher keine Probleme
#NeoChat will wieder nicht
#Syphon dagegen läuft 💪

Das bedeutet NICHT dass die Clients sicher mit torsocks nutzbar sind - ich habe nur getestet ob sie sich starten lassen und ein einloggen möglich ist.

The seventy-fourth edition of my weekly collection of news about #LinuxPhones (@PINE64 #PinePhone, #PinePhonePro, @purism #Librem5 and such), #LinBits, is out!

https://linmob.net/linbits-73-weekly-linux-phone-news-week47-48/

This week in Linux Phones: #libhandy 1.5.0, #Fluffychat 1.0, #NemoMobile running on two more devices, #postmarketOS adds support for another Snapdragon 845-based phone, #LoRa backplate fun and more!