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  1. @david_chisnall @12thRITS @anon_opin An Open University tutor told a memorable anecdote about externality.

    He worked for Royal Mail and saw that private couriers would take the easy profitable business (like deliveries in cities) but put expensive deliveries in the public postbox and let Royal take the hit (to remote addresses like the Outer Hebrides, for example).

    #externality #economics

  2. @david_chisnall @12thRITS @anon_opin An Open University tutor told a memorable anecdote about externality.

    He worked for Royal Mail and saw that private couriers would take the easy profitable business (like deliveries in cities) but put expensive deliveries in the public postbox and let Royal take the hit (to remote addresses like the Outer Hebrides, for example).

    #externality #economics

  3. @david_chisnall @12thRITS @anon_opin An Open University tutor told a memorable anecdote about externality.

    He worked for Royal Mail and saw that private couriers would take the easy profitable business (like deliveries in cities) but put expensive deliveries in the public postbox and let Royal take the hit (to remote addresses like the Outer Hebrides, for example).

    #externality #economics

  4. @david_chisnall @12thRITS @anon_opin An Open University tutor told a memorable anecdote about externality.

    He worked for Royal Mail and saw that private couriers would take the easy profitable business (like deliveries in cities) but put expensive deliveries in the public postbox and let Royal take the hit (to remote addresses like the Outer Hebrides, for example).

    #externality #economics

  5. @david_chisnall @12thRITS @anon_opin An Open University tutor told a memorable anecdote about externality.

    He worked for Royal Mail and saw that private couriers would take the easy profitable business (like deliveries in cities) but put expensive deliveries in the public postbox and let Royal take the hit (to remote addresses like the Outer Hebrides, for example).

    #externality #economics

  6. CW: Explicit or potentially disturbing media

    Yet again bearing witness to, and the psychic burden of, one of the myriad adverse externalities of enabling people to save three seconds on their (car) commute / travels. #Cervicide #NegligentCervicide #FuckCars #Motonormativity #Externality

  7. A quotation from Marcus Aurelius

    If you suffer distress because of some external cause, it is not the thing itself that troubles you but your judgment on it, and it is within your power to cancel that judgment at any moment.
     
    [Εἰ μὲν διά τι τῶν ἐκτὸς λυπῇ, οὐκ ἐκεῖνό σοι ἐνοχλεῖ, ἀλλὰ τὸ σὸν περὶ αὐτοῦ κρῖμα, τοῦτο δὲ ἤδη ἐξαλεῖψαι ἐπὶ σοί ἐστιν.]

    Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180) Roman emperor (161-180), Stoic philosopher
    Meditations [To Himself; Τὰ εἰς ἑαυτόν], Book 8, ch. 47 (8.47) (AD 161-180) [tr. Hard (1997 ed.)]

    More info about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/marcus-aureleus/2669…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #marcusaurelius #aggravation #distress #disturbance #externality #judgment #perception #reaction #selfcontrol #selfdiscipline #trouble #unhappiness #vexation

  8. A quotation from Marcus Aurelius

    If you suffer distress because of some external cause, it is not the thing itself that troubles you but your judgment on it, and it is within your power to cancel that judgment at any moment.
     
    [Εἰ μὲν διά τι τῶν ἐκτὸς λυπῇ, οὐκ ἐκεῖνό σοι ἐνοχλεῖ, ἀλλὰ τὸ σὸν περὶ αὐτοῦ κρῖμα, τοῦτο δὲ ἤδη ἐξαλεῖψαι ἐπὶ σοί ἐστιν.]

    Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180) Roman emperor (161-180), Stoic philosopher
    Meditations [To Himself; Τὰ εἰς ἑαυτόν], Book 8, ch. 47 (8.47) (AD 161-180) [tr. Hard (1997 ed.)]

    More info about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/marcus-aureleus/2669…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #marcusaurelius #aggravation #distress #disturbance #externality #judgment #perception #reaction #selfcontrol #selfdiscipline #trouble #unhappiness #vexation

  9. A quotation from Marcus Aurelius

    If you suffer distress because of some external cause, it is not the thing itself that troubles you but your judgment on it, and it is within your power to cancel that judgment at any moment.
     
    [Εἰ μὲν διά τι τῶν ἐκτὸς λυπῇ, οὐκ ἐκεῖνό σοι ἐνοχλεῖ, ἀλλὰ τὸ σὸν περὶ αὐτοῦ κρῖμα, τοῦτο δὲ ἤδη ἐξαλεῖψαι ἐπὶ σοί ἐστιν.]

    Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180) Roman emperor (161-180), Stoic philosopher
    Meditations [To Himself; Τὰ εἰς ἑαυτόν], Book 8, ch. 47 (8.47) (AD 161-180) [tr. Hard (1997 ed.)]

    More info about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/marcus-aureleus/2669…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #marcusaurelius #aggravation #distress #disturbance #externality #judgment #perception #reaction #selfcontrol #selfdiscipline #trouble #unhappiness #vexation

  10. A quotation from Marcus Aurelius

    If you suffer distress because of some external cause, it is not the thing itself that troubles you but your judgment on it, and it is within your power to cancel that judgment at any moment.
     
    [Εἰ μὲν διά τι τῶν ἐκτὸς λυπῇ, οὐκ ἐκεῖνό σοι ἐνοχλεῖ, ἀλλὰ τὸ σὸν περὶ αὐτοῦ κρῖμα, τοῦτο δὲ ἤδη ἐξαλεῖψαι ἐπὶ σοί ἐστιν.]

    Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180) Roman emperor (161-180), Stoic philosopher
    Meditations [To Himself; Τὰ εἰς ἑαυτόν], Book 8, ch. 47 (8.47) (AD 161-180) [tr. Hard (1997 ed.)]

    More info about (and translations of) this quote: wist.info/marcus-aureleus/2669…

    #quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #marcusaurelius #aggravation #distress #disturbance #externality #judgment #perception #reaction #selfcontrol #selfdiscipline #trouble #unhappiness #vexation

  11. This topic and framing has been on my mind for a long time, but the recent news story about Vermont is relevant.

    Our oceans have piled up a disproportionate share of heat. It takes an unfathomable amount of energy to have bumped ocean heat as much as we have, and it's not stopping. Amazing the land hasn't long ago cooked, but, speaking metaphorically, there is starting to be no more place for all that trapped heat to go.

    Meanwhile an unfathomable ocean of money has piled up from years of rewarding oil companies for the service of putting fossil fuels into play, never for a moment considering or charging for the environmental externality of climate change. No accident that. They knew the consequence. They pumped tons of money, enough to control media empires, enough to corrupt and outright buy politicians, into distracting and denying and defrauding.

    Buying public image and buying politicians in this way was reasoned cheaper than what any sane person would ask if they new the truth about the naked greed, about the willingness to knowingly stoke an existential risk to humanity.

    Vermont is not being extreme here, though much corrupt money will go into focus groups and A/B testing and AI bots designed to help us think so. What Vermont asks is a drop in the bucket of their wealth. Probably they, and all of us, should pro-actively take back every dime. In that light, it's hard to see Vermont as being at all extreme. They have, even now, responded modestly.

    A modern equivalent of pitchforks at the castle gates, though far more poiite. The castle will fight back. It's well motivated and very well capitalized. But its ethical position is the inverse. We must remember that as we see that retaliation play out. The oil companies have no moral authority here, but will tell us they are victims and faithful public servants. That will be lies. We need to say that out loud and frequently to remind ourselves and inform others.

    It's not just an issue of penalizing oil companies. There is evil here that needs punishment, but we are not doing that yet. We probably should, but such vengeance would detract and we don't have the luxury of time.

    For now the key thing is this, and we must not lose focus: Money is how we set priority. We need to set the collective compass to right, recalibrating for survival.

    There needs to be ZERO priority to mining oil. The vast wealth, the ocean of prioritization chits, of individual dollars, that represent represent our colective and ill-informed giving of public priority and permission need to be taken back and redirected immediately from the hucksters who knowingly misled us. A fraud was perpetrated, but that's water under the bridge. The priority and permission that this ocean of money represents must be applied as fully and immediately as possible toward the endeavor of human survival.

    Even that may not be enough. But we cannot as an allegedly intelligent species indulge any tolerance of leaving them any control of society's priority if we want to survive at all.

    There is no greater urgency nor higher priority.

    What Vermont has done is minimal and appropriate. Responses to problems must be proportionate. To do less would not be conservative, THAT would be radical, as it would be meeting an existential threat with a shrug. The other states, the ones doing nothing, are the ones acting radically, by letting these hucksters continue to operate and profit on making the problem worse.

    rollingstone.com/politics/poli

    #climate #externality #externalities #morality #responsibility #law #FossilFuels #ExtremeWeather #priorities #economics #sustainability #ExtremeWeatherEvents #fraud #TheyKnew

  12. This topic and framing has been on my mind for a long time, but the recent news story about Vermont is relevant.

    Our oceans have piled up a disproportionate share of heat. It takes an unfathomable amount of energy to have bumped ocean heat as much as we have, and it's not stopping. Amazing the land hasn't long ago cooked, but, speaking metaphorically, there is starting to be no more place for all that trapped heat to go.

    Meanwhile an unfathomable ocean of money has piled up from years of rewarding oil companies for the service of putting fossil fuels into play, never for a moment considering or charging for the environmental externality of climate change. No accident that. They knew the consequence. They pumped tons of money, enough to control media empires, enough to corrupt and outright buy politicians, into distracting and denying and defrauding.

    Buying public image and buying politicians in this way was reasoned cheaper than what any sane person would ask if they new the truth about the naked greed, about the willingness to knowingly stoke an existential risk to humanity.

    Vermont is not being extreme here, though much corrupt money will go into focus groups and A/B testing and AI bots designed to help us think so. What Vermont asks is a drop in the bucket of their wealth. Probably they, and all of us, should pro-actively take back every dime. In that light, it's hard to see Vermont as being at all extreme. They have, even now, responded modestly.

    A modern equivalent of pitchforks at the castle gates, though far more poiite. The castle will fight back. It's well motivated and very well capitalized. But its ethical position is the inverse. We must remember that as we see that retaliation play out. The oil companies have no moral authority here, but will tell us they are victims and faithful public servants. That will be lies. We need to say that out loud and frequently to remind ourselves and inform others.

    It's not just an issue of penalizing oil companies. There is evil here that needs punishment, but we are not doing that yet. We probably should, but such vengeance would detract and we don't have the luxury of time.

    For now the key thing is this, and we must not lose focus: Money is how we set priority. We need to set the collective compass to right, recalibrating for survival.

    There needs to be ZERO priority to mining oil. The vast wealth, the ocean of prioritization chits, of individual dollars, that represent represent our colective and ill-informed giving of public priority and permission need to be taken back and redirected immediately from the hucksters who knowingly misled us. A fraud was perpetrated, but that's water under the bridge. The priority and permission that this ocean of money represents must be applied as fully and immediately as possible toward the endeavor of human survival.

    Even that may not be enough. But we cannot as an allegedly intelligent species indulge any tolerance of leaving them any control of society's priority if we want to survive at all.

    There is no greater urgency nor higher priority.

    What Vermont has done is minimal and appropriate. Responses to problems must be proportionate. To do less would not be conservative, THAT would be radical, as it would be meeting an existential threat with a shrug. The other states, the ones doing nothing, are the ones acting radically, by letting these hucksters continue to operate and profit on making the problem worse.

    rollingstone.com/politics/poli

    #climate #externality #externalities #morality #responsibility #law #FossilFuels #ExtremeWeather #priorities #economics #sustainability #ExtremeWeatherEvents #fraud #TheyKnew

  13. This topic and framing has been on my mind for a long time, but the recent news story about Vermont is relevant.

    Our oceans have piled up a disproportionate share of heat. It takes an unfathomable amount of energy to have bumped ocean heat as much as we have, and it's not stopping. Amazing the land hasn't long ago cooked, but, speaking metaphorically, there is starting to be no more place for all that trapped heat to go.

    Meanwhile an unfathomable ocean of money has piled up from years of rewarding oil companies for the service of putting fossil fuels into play, never for a moment considering or charging for the environmental externality of climate change. No accident that. They knew the consequence. They pumped tons of money, enough to control media empires, enough to corrupt and outright buy politicians, into distracting and denying and defrauding.

    Buying public image and buying politicians in this way was reasoned cheaper than what any sane person would ask if they new the truth about the naked greed, about the willingness to knowingly stoke an existential risk to humanity.

    Vermont is not being extreme here, though much corrupt money will go into focus groups and A/B testing and AI bots designed to help us think so. What Vermont asks is a drop in the bucket of their wealth. Probably they, and all of us, should pro-actively take back every dime. In that light, it's hard to see Vermont as being at all extreme. They have, even now, responded modestly.

    A modern equivalent of pitchforks at the castle gates, though far more poiite. The castle will fight back. It's well motivated and very well capitalized. But its ethical position is the inverse. We must remember that as we see that retaliation play out. The oil companies have no moral authority here, but will tell us they are victims and faithful public servants. That will be lies. We need to say that out loud and frequently to remind ourselves and inform others.

    It's not just an issue of penalizing oil companies. There is evil here that needs punishment, but we are not doing that yet. We probably should, but such vengeance would detract and we don't have the luxury of time.

    For now the key thing is this, and we must not lose focus: Money is how we set priority. We need to set the collective compass to right, recalibrating for survival.

    There needs to be ZERO priority to mining oil. The vast wealth, the ocean of prioritization chits, of individual dollars, that represent represent our colective and ill-informed giving of public priority and permission need to be taken back and redirected immediately from the hucksters who knowingly misled us. A fraud was perpetrated, but that's water under the bridge. The priority and permission that this ocean of money represents must be applied as fully and immediately as possible toward the endeavor of human survival.

    Even that may not be enough. But we cannot as an allegedly intelligent species indulge any tolerance of leaving them any control of society's priority if we want to survive at all.

    There is no greater urgency nor higher priority.

    What Vermont has done is minimal and appropriate. Responses to problems must be proportionate. To do less would not be conservative, THAT would be radical, as it would be meeting an existential threat with a shrug. The other states, the ones doing nothing, are the ones acting radically, by letting these hucksters continue to operate and profit on making the problem worse.

    rollingstone.com/politics/poli

    #climate #externality #externalities #morality #responsibility #law #FossilFuels #ExtremeWeather #priorities #economics #sustainability #ExtremeWeatherEvents #fraud #TheyKnew

  14. This topic and framing has been on my mind for a long time, but the recent news story about Vermont is relevant.

    Our oceans have piled up a disproportionate share of heat. It takes an unfathomable amount of energy to have bumped ocean heat as much as we have, and it's not stopping. Amazing the land hasn't long ago cooked, but, speaking metaphorically, there is starting to be no more place for all that trapped heat to go.

    Meanwhile an unfathomable ocean of money has piled up from years of rewarding oil companies for the service of putting fossil fuels into play, never for a moment considering or charging for the environmental externality of climate change. No accident that. They knew the consequence. They pumped tons of money, enough to control media empires, enough to corrupt and outright buy politicians, into distracting and denying and defrauding.

    Buying public image and buying politicians in this way was reasoned cheaper than what any sane person would ask if they new the truth about the naked greed, about the willingness to knowingly stoke an existential risk to humanity.

    Vermont is not being extreme here, though much corrupt money will go into focus groups and A/B testing and AI bots designed to help us think so. What Vermont asks is a drop in the bucket of their wealth. Probably they, and all of us, should pro-actively take back every dime. In that light, it's hard to see Vermont as being at all extreme. They have, even now, responded modestly.

    A modern equivalent of pitchforks at the castle gates, though far more poiite. The castle will fight back. It's well motivated and very well capitalized. But its ethical position is the inverse. We must remember that as we see that retaliation play out. The oil companies have no moral authority here, but will tell us they are victims and faithful public servants. That will be lies. We need to say that out loud and frequently to remind ourselves and inform others.

    It's not just an issue of penalizing oil companies. There is evil here that needs punishment, but we are not doing that yet. We probably should, but such vengeance would detract and we don't have the luxury of time.

    For now the key thing is this, and we must not lose focus: Money is how we set priority. We need to set the collective compass to right, recalibrating for survival.

    There needs to be ZERO priority to mining oil. The vast wealth, the ocean of prioritization chits, of individual dollars, that represent represent our colective and ill-informed giving of public priority and permission need to be taken back and redirected immediately from the hucksters who knowingly misled us. A fraud was perpetrated, but that's water under the bridge. The priority and permission that this ocean of money represents must be applied as fully and immediately as possible toward the endeavor of human survival.

    Even that may not be enough. But we cannot as an allegedly intelligent species indulge any tolerance of leaving them any control of society's priority if we want to survive at all.

    There is no greater urgency nor higher priority.

    What Vermont has done is minimal and appropriate. Responses to problems must be proportionate. To do less would not be conservative, THAT would be radical, as it would be meeting an existential threat with a shrug. The other states, the ones doing nothing, are the ones acting radically, by letting these hucksters continue to operate and profit on making the problem worse.

    rollingstone.com/politics/poli

    #climate #externality #externalities #morality #responsibility #law #FossilFuels #ExtremeWeather #priorities #economics #sustainability #ExtremeWeatherEvents #fraud #TheyKnew

  15. This topic and framing has been on my mind for a long time, but the recent news story about Vermont is relevant.

    Our oceans have piled up a disproportionate share of heat. It takes an unfathomable amount of energy to have bumped ocean heat as much as we have, and it's not stopping. Amazing the land hasn't long ago cooked, but, speaking metaphorically, there is starting to be no more place for all that trapped heat to go.

    Meanwhile an unfathomable ocean of money has piled up from years of rewarding oil companies for the service of putting fossil fuels into play, never for a moment considering or charging for the environmental externality of climate change. No accident that. They knew the consequence. They pumped tons of money, enough to control media empires, enough to corrupt and outright buy politicians, into distracting and denying and defrauding.

    Buying public image and buying politicians in this way was reasoned cheaper than what any sane person would ask if they new the truth about the naked greed, about the willingness to knowingly stoke an existential risk to humanity.

    Vermont is not being extreme here, though much corrupt money will go into focus groups and A/B testing and AI bots designed to help us think so. What Vermont asks is a drop in the bucket of their wealth. Probably they, and all of us, should pro-actively take back every dime. In that light, it's hard to see Vermont as being at all extreme. They have, even now, responded modestly.

    A modern equivalent of pitchforks at the castle gates, though far more poiite. The castle will fight back. It's well motivated and very well capitalized. But its ethical position is the inverse. We must remember that as we see that retaliation play out. The oil companies have no moral authority here, but will tell us they are victims and faithful public servants. That will be lies. We need to say that out loud and frequently to remind ourselves and inform others.

    It's not just an issue of penalizing oil companies. There is evil here that needs punishment, but we are not doing that yet. We probably should, but such vengeance would detract and we don't have the luxury of time.

    For now the key thing is this, and we must not lose focus: Money is how we set priority. We need to set the collective compass to right, recalibrating for survival.

    There needs to be ZERO priority to mining oil. The vast wealth, the ocean of prioritization chits, of individual dollars, that represent represent our colective and ill-informed giving of public priority and permission need to be taken back and redirected immediately from the hucksters who knowingly misled us. A fraud was perpetrated, but that's water under the bridge. The priority and permission that this ocean of money represents must be applied as fully and immediately as possible toward the endeavor of human survival.

    Even that may not be enough. But we cannot as an allegedly intelligent species indulge any tolerance of leaving them any control of society's priority if we want to survive at all.

    There is no greater urgency nor higher priority.

    What Vermont has done is minimal and appropriate. Responses to problems must be proportionate. To do less would not be conservative, THAT would be radical, as it would be meeting an existential threat with a shrug. The other states, the ones doing nothing, are the ones acting radically, by letting these hucksters continue to operate and profit on making the problem worse.

    rollingstone.com/politics/poli

    #climate #externality #externalities #morality #responsibility #law #FossilFuels #ExtremeWeather #priorities #economics #sustainability #ExtremeWeatherEvents #fraud #TheyKnew

  16. Who pays an echidna's medical bill? Motorists?
    Australian animals killed or maimed at the roadside are traumatising wildlife and their carers. "Sometimes it's just horrific, broken bones, animals that have been suffering for quite some time." The ongoing reliance on goodwill is unsustainable. 'Biodiversity loss' is a synonym for road kill.

    abc.net.au/news/2023-06-08/wil
    #Wildlife #Volunteering #Volunteers #Burnout #Trauma #Care #Exploitation #NSW #Biodiversity #Habitat #Fragmentation #Roads #Speeding #RoadKill #Cars #Externality #Extinction

  17. Who pays an echidna's medical bill? Motorists?
    Australian animals killed or maimed at the roadside are traumatising wildlife and their carers. "Sometimes it's just horrific, broken bones, animals that have been suffering for quite some time." The ongoing reliance on goodwill is unsustainable. 'Biodiversity loss' is a synonym for road kill.

    abc.net.au/news/2023-06-08/wil
    #Wildlife #Volunteering #Volunteers #Burnout #Trauma #Care #Exploitation #NSW #Biodiversity #Habitat #Fragmentation #Roads #Speeding #RoadKill #Cars #Externality #Extinction

  18. Who pays an echidna's medical bill? Motorists?
    Australian animals killed or maimed at the roadside are traumatising wildlife and their carers. "Sometimes it's just horrific, broken bones, animals that have been suffering for quite some time." The ongoing reliance on goodwill is unsustainable. 'Biodiversity loss' is a synonym for road kill.

    abc.net.au/news/2023-06-08/wil
    #Wildlife #Volunteering #Volunteers #Burnout #Trauma #Care #Exploitation #NSW #Biodiversity #Habitat #Fragmentation #Roads #Speeding #RoadKill #Cars #Externality #Extinction

  19. Of 1080 and weedkillers
    Since settlers introduced a host of pest species to Australia, the fight against the invasive animals and plants has been ongoing. Toxins or fossil fuel machinery are the main tools employed to eradicate the harmful non-native species.
    Weedkillers with glyphosate are ubiquitous in the war on out of control weeds. For animal pest species sodium fluoroacetate (1080) bait is dropped from the sky or distributed on the ground.

    "Since the 1950s, Australian governments, private contractors and property owners have used 1080 poison baits to kill “pest” animals such as foxes, rabbits, cats, pigs and wild dogs, including dingoes... Australia is only one of a handful of countries that allow the use of 1080 baits..."

    The externalities of this cost effective method results in the killing of non-target species. Pet owners who bear witness to their pet dog's extended suffering from poisoning become traumatised. 'Out there' in the bush many Australian animals experience also such a cruel death that goes unseen.

    theconversation.com/i-cant-get
    #InvasiveSpecies #Poison #Toxins #Pesticides #Glyphosate #SodiumFluoroacetate #ChemicalControl #NonTargetSpecies #ToxicLandscapes #Externality #Pets #Wildlife #So50s #Biodiversity

  20. Of 1080 and weedkillers
    Since settlers introduced a host of pest species to Australia, the fight against the invasive animals and plants has been ongoing. Toxins or fossil fuel machinery are the main tools employed to eradicate the harmful non-native species.
    Weedkillers with glyphosate are ubiquitous in the war on out of control weeds. For animal pest species sodium fluoroacetate (1080) bait is dropped from the sky or distributed on the ground.

    "Since the 1950s, Australian governments, private contractors and property owners have used 1080 poison baits to kill “pest” animals such as foxes, rabbits, cats, pigs and wild dogs, including dingoes... Australia is only one of a handful of countries that allow the use of 1080 baits..."

    The externalities of this cost effective method results in the killing of non-target species. Pet owners who bear witness to their pet dog's extended suffering from poisoning become traumatised. 'Out there' in the bush many Australian animals experience also such a cruel death that goes unseen.

    theconversation.com/i-cant-get
    #InvasiveSpecies #Poison #Toxins #Pesticides #Glyphosate #SodiumFluoroacetate #ChemicalControl #NonTargetSpecies #ToxicLandscapes #Externality #Pets #Wildlife #So50s #Biodiversity

  21. @breadandcircuses

    I know you're being a bit whimsical with your wording, but I'll take the bait. Please don't take this critique personally, but as I'm sure you intend, it's very like the discussions one actually does hear a lot. Particularly:

    > a very small price to pay for endless economic growth

    The word "endless" is the tell here. Often if you look in these discussions there's some outright non-truth that we bat around as if true when it's not, and that's how we confuse ourselves.

    We haven't had a serious societal discussion about the fact that this can't be endless, or what the consequences an end is. It's a finite world, and the presence of clean drinking water is ever more in jeopardy.

    netsettlement.blogspot.com/201

    #environment #capitalism #externality #oil #water #DrinkingWater #OilSpill #OiilSpills

  22. @breadandcircuses

    I know you're being a bit whimsical with your wording, but I'll take the bait. Please don't take this critique personally, but as I'm sure you intend, it's very like the discussions one actually does hear a lot. Particularly:

    > a very small price to pay for endless economic growth

    The word "endless" is the tell here. Often if you look in these discussions there's some outright non-truth that we bat around as if true when it's not, and that's how we confuse ourselves.

    We haven't had a serious societal discussion about the fact that this can't be endless, or what the consequences an end is. It's a finite world, and the presence of clean drinking water is ever more in jeopardy.

    netsettlement.blogspot.com/201

    #environment #capitalism #externality #oil #water #DrinkingWater #OilSpill #OiilSpills

  23. @breadandcircuses

    I know you're being a bit whimsical with your wording, but I'll take the bait. Please don't take this critique personally, but as I'm sure you intend, it's very like the discussions one actually does hear a lot. Particularly:

    > a very small price to pay for endless economic growth

    The word "endless" is the tell here. Often if you look in these discussions there's some outright non-truth that we bat around as if true when it's not, and that's how we confuse ourselves.

    We haven't had a serious societal discussion about the fact that this can't be endless, or what the consequences an end is. It's a finite world, and the presence of clean drinking water is ever more in jeopardy.

    netsettlement.blogspot.com/201

    #environment #capitalism #externality #oil #water #DrinkingWater #OilSpill #OiilSpills

  24. @breadandcircuses

    I know you're being a bit whimsical with your wording, but I'll take the bait. Please don't take this critique personally, but as I'm sure you intend, it's very like the discussions one actually does hear a lot. Particularly:

    > a very small price to pay for endless economic growth

    The word "endless" is the tell here. Often if you look in these discussions there's some outright non-truth that we bat around as if true when it's not, and that's how we confuse ourselves.

    We haven't had a serious societal discussion about the fact that this can't be endless, or what the consequences an end is. It's a finite world, and the presence of clean drinking water is ever more in jeopardy.

    netsettlement.blogspot.com/201

    #environment #capitalism #externality #oil #water #DrinkingWater #OilSpill #OiilSpills

  25. @breadandcircuses

    I know you're being a bit whimsical with your wording, but I'll take the bait. Please don't take this critique personally, but as I'm sure you intend, it's very like the discussions one actually does hear a lot. Particularly:

    > a very small price to pay for endless economic growth

    The word "endless" is the tell here. Often if you look in these discussions there's some outright non-truth that we bat around as if true when it's not, and that's how we confuse ourselves.

    We haven't had a serious societal discussion about the fact that this can't be endless, or what the consequences an end is. It's a finite world, and the presence of clean drinking water is ever more in jeopardy.

    netsettlement.blogspot.com/201

    #environment #capitalism #externality #oil #water #DrinkingWater #OilSpill #OiilSpills

  26. @LeftistLawyer

    Nicely expressed. I like the thermodynamics metaphor. Also the attempt to explain effects on the future in an intelligible way. These metaphors may not speak to everyone, but for those familiar with such things, it captures the problem in familiar terms.

    While on topic of physics metaphors, you might also enjoy my essay Losing Ground in the Environment.
    netsettlement.blogspot.com/201

    #Capitalism #Environment #Externality #Profit #Metaphor #Physics #Society #Climate #ClimateCrisis

  27. @LeftistLawyer

    Nicely expressed. I like the thermodynamics metaphor. Also the attempt to explain effects on the future in an intelligible way. These metaphors may not speak to everyone, but for those familiar with such things, it captures the problem in familiar terms.

    While on topic of physics metaphors, you might also enjoy my essay Losing Ground in the Environment.
    netsettlement.blogspot.com/201

    #Capitalism #Environment #Externality #Profit #Metaphor #Physics #Society #Climate #ClimateCrisis

  28. @LeftistLawyer

    Nicely expressed. I like the thermodynamics metaphor. Also the attempt to explain effects on the future in an intelligible way. These metaphors may not speak to everyone, but for those familiar with such things, it captures the problem in familiar terms.

    While on topic of physics metaphors, you might also enjoy my essay Losing Ground in the Environment.
    netsettlement.blogspot.com/201

    #Capitalism #Environment #Externality #Profit #Metaphor #Physics #Society #Climate #ClimateCrisis

  29. @LeftistLawyer

    Nicely expressed. I like the thermodynamics metaphor. Also the attempt to explain effects on the future in an intelligible way. These metaphors may not speak to everyone, but for those familiar with such things, it captures the problem in familiar terms.

    While on topic of physics metaphors, you might also enjoy my essay Losing Ground in the Environment.
    netsettlement.blogspot.com/201

    #Capitalism #Environment #Externality #Profit #Metaphor #Physics #Society #Climate #ClimateCrisis

  30. @LeftistLawyer

    Nicely expressed. I like the thermodynamics metaphor. Also the attempt to explain effects on the future in an intelligible way. These metaphors may not speak to everyone, but for those familiar with such things, it captures the problem in familiar terms.

    While on topic of physics metaphors, you might also enjoy my essay Losing Ground in the Environment.
    netsettlement.blogspot.com/201

    #Capitalism #Environment #Externality #Profit #Metaphor #Physics #Society #Climate #ClimateCrisis

  31. CW: energy cost changes

    @sarahsteinberg A more reliable supply of #energy means more #diversified. Lowest cost is now #wind, with #solar following close behind, but #storage cost will result in a more volatile electricity spot market depending on how much wind is blowing and time of day and year for solar.

    When the #externality cost of #fossil fuel is factored in, it becomes a ludicrously expensive option.

    ox.ac.uk/news/2022-09-14-decar

  32. CW: energy cost changes

    @sarahsteinberg A more reliable supply of #energy means more #diversified. Lowest cost is now #wind, with #solar following close behind, but #storage cost will result in a more volatile electricity spot market depending on how much wind is blowing and time of day and year for solar.

    When the #externality cost of #fossil fuel is factored in, it becomes a ludicrously expensive option.

    ox.ac.uk/news/2022-09-14-decar

  33. @davdittrich great post, but what exactly are you trying to tell us, when you say: "Nudges dominate taxes whenever the standard deviation of the behavioral #bias exceeds the magnitude of the average #externality."

  34. @davdittrich great post, but what exactly are you trying to tell us, when you say: "Nudges dominate taxes whenever the standard deviation of the behavioral #bias exceeds the magnitude of the average #externality."

  35. @davdittrich great post, but what exactly are you trying to tell us, when you say: "Nudges dominate taxes whenever the standard deviation of the behavioral #bias exceeds the magnitude of the average #externality."

  36. @davdittrich great post, but what exactly are you trying to tell us, when you say: "Nudges dominate taxes whenever the standard deviation of the behavioral #bias exceeds the magnitude of the average #externality."

  37. @davdittrich great post, but what exactly are you trying to tell us, when you say: "Nudges dominate taxes whenever the standard deviation of the behavioral #bias exceeds the magnitude of the average #externality."

  38. Judging Nudging: Toward an Understanding of the Welfare Effects of Nudges Versus Taxes fieldexperiments-papers2.s3.am
    "While nudges are effective in changing behaviour, they are not necessarily the most efficient policy: Nudges dominate taxes whenever the standard deviation of the behavioral #bias exceeds the magnitude of the average #externality."
    #nudge #BoundedRationality #efficiency #effectiveness

  39. Judging Nudging: Toward an Understanding of the Welfare Effects of Nudges Versus Taxes fieldexperiments-papers2.s3.am
    "While nudges are effective in changing behaviour, they are not necessarily the most efficient policy: Nudges dominate taxes whenever the standard deviation of the behavioral #bias exceeds the magnitude of the average #externality."
    #nudge #BoundedRationality #efficiency #effectiveness