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  1. Artist platform Ello tried to fund their social network for artists with VC money, even though their business model was not compatible with rapid growth and monetization.

    waxy.org/2024/01/the-quiet-dea

  2. Artist platform Ello tried to fund their social network for artists with VC money, even though their business model was not compatible with rapid growth and monetization.

    waxy.org/2024/01/the-quiet-dea

    #venturecapital #startups #ello #socialmedia #platformization #vc

  3. The Quiet Death of Ello’s Big Dreams | Waxy.org

    I remember Ello — it really needs to be spelled in Courier — quite intently; the schtick — “Facebook Killer” — was obviously going to doom it from the outset because any app which people describe primarily as being in opposition to something successful, is clearly going to have issues… but I didn’t know how deep the rot went.

    I’m amazed it lived so long.

    https://waxy.org/2024/01/the-quiet-death-of-ellos-big-dreams/

    https://alecmuffett.com/article/108936

    #ello #socialNetworking

  4. CW: Long thread/11

    Capitalism without constraint is #enshittification's handmaiden, and the latest victim is #Ello, the "indie" social media startup that literally promised - on the sacred honor of its founders - that it would never sell out its users. When Ello took VC and @waxy questioned how this could be squared with this promise, the founders mocked him and others for raising the question. Their response boiled down to "we are super-chill dudes and you can totally trust us."

    11/

  5. CW: Long thread/11

    Capitalism without constraint is #enshittification's handmaiden, and the latest victim is #Ello, the "indie" social media startup that literally promised - on the sacred honor of its founders - that it would never sell out its users. When Ello took VC and @waxy questioned how this could be squared with this promise, the founders mocked him and others for raising the question. Their response boiled down to "we are super-chill dudes and you can totally trust us."

    11/

  6. @Infostack @andybaio I feel like you completely missed my point.

    #Ello failed because the demand wasn't there. Ello made the same mistake #GooglePlus and #MeWe made. #Facebook users complain about Facebook, but don't join anti-Facebooks, because most of them don't hate Facebook as much as the people creating Facebook replacements do.

    All the #Twitter alternatives are making the same mistake. Only difference in their favor is that Twitter may actually go out of business on its own.

  7. “Venture capital is private subsidy that keeps the startup alive long enough until enough people have joined their platform. At this point, it’s too late. By being part of the platform we have created its value. This is the value that is sold in an exit. The only way to resist this system is to not build that value in the first place.”

    ar.al/notes/ello-goodbye/

    #vc #ventureCapital #startups #BigTech #ello

  8. “Venture capital is private subsidy that keeps the startup alive long enough until enough people have joined their platform. At this point, it’s too late. By being part of the platform we have created its value. This is the value that is sold in an exit. The only way to resist this system is to not build that value in the first place.”

    ar.al/notes/ello-goodbye/

    #vc #ventureCapital #startups #BigTech #ello

  9. Ello, Goodbye.

    ar.al/notes/ello-goodbye/

    (That feeling when you don’t have to write something about it today because you already said everything that needed to be said ten years ago.)

    #ello #goodbye #vc #ventureCapital #startups

  10. Ello, Goodbye.

    ar.al/notes/ello-goodbye/

    (That feeling when you don’t have to write something about it today because you already said everything that needed to be said ten years ago.)

    #ello #goodbye #vc #ventureCapital #startups

  11. The rise and fall of Ello.
    Geld en idealen zijn kennelijk vaak een slechte combinatie.
    #socialmedia #ello

    The Quiet Death of Ello's Big Dreams - Waxy.org waxy.org/2024/01/the-quiet-dea

  12. Wondered what had happened to #Ello a couple of days ago and now this just popped up. Ello’s dead.

    Also, someone in the comments mentions HerPlanet and Suite101. I vaguely remember those sites and it’s ridiculous how there’s barely a trace of them left on the internet. (I just googled them.)

    So much recent history … just gone.
    xoxo.zone/@andybaio/1117779078

  13. Wondered what had happened to #Ello a couple of days ago and now this just popped up. Ello’s dead.

    Also, someone in the comments mentions HerPlanet and Suite101. I vaguely remember those sites and it’s ridiculous how there’s barely a trace of them left on the internet. (I just googled them.)

    So much recent history … just gone.
    xoxo.zone/@andybaio/1117779078

  14. The Quiet Death of Ello’s Big Dreams
    waxy.org/2024/01/the-quiet-dea

    Remember Ello?
    Ello died quietly a few months ago.
    The social media site promised to put its users first.
    Ello promised not be funded by selling third-party ads, not sell user data, and to bind any future company owner to the same terms. In the end, Ello broke all of its core rules. Then Ello shut-down so quickly that it didn't give its members any warning or time to get out with their user-generated content.

    This article is a cautionary tale of how high ideals mean nothing when you accept VC money. At some point, the VC money dries-up and they want to collect on their debts.

    Also, I think it's notable that one of the founders went on to startup a company selling NFTs / crypto, and when that collapsed, he pivoted to a new startup churning out AI garbage.

    #Ello #YouAreTheProduct #VC #AI #NFT #Crypto #SocialMedia

  15. The Quiet Death of Ello’s Big Dreams
    waxy.org/2024/01/the-quiet-dea

    Remember Ello?
    Ello died quietly a few months ago.
    The social media site promised to put its users first.
    Ello promised not be funded by selling third-party ads, not sell user data, and to bind any future company owner to the same terms. In the end, Ello broke all of its core rules. Then Ello shut-down so quickly that it didn't give its members any warning or time to get out with their user-generated content.

    This article is a cautionary tale of how high ideals mean nothing when you accept VC money. At some point, the VC money dries-up and they want to collect on their debts.

    Also, I think it's notable that one of the founders went on to startup a company selling NFTs / crypto, and when that collapsed, he pivoted to a new startup churning out AI garbage.

    #Ello #YouAreTheProduct #VC #AI #NFT #Crypto #SocialMedia

  16. The corruption of Ello: The sad story of an idealistic social media company falling into the inevitable cycle of VC investment, consumer development, and acquisition
    waxy.org/2024/01/the-quiet-dea
    #socialmedia #investments #corruption #startups #history #ello #-

  17. @andybaio I was thinking about #ello recently, because it's a good example of a social network whose entire plan was "give users what they *say* they want," which never actually works.

    And now we're discussing it on #Mastodon. Huh.

  18. @andybaio I was thinking about #ello recently, because it's a good example of a social network whose entire plan was "give users what they *say* they want," which never actually works.

    And now we're discussing it on #Mastodon. Huh.

  19. welkom @MelodIetje op mijn tl met Like a Deer 
Caught in a Deli or Walk-in Closet uit 2017 van
Tony van den Boomen uit BC Canada
    leren kennen op #Ello

    geïnspireerd op een schilderij “Like a Deer Caught in a Deli or Walk-in Closet” – een wel zeer vrije variatie op een compositie van Olivier Messiaen :
    Like a Deer Caught in a Deli or Walk-in Closet
    in een uitstapje met YouCompose maakte ik van 1 instrumentpartij 6 verschillende melodie variaties
    te beluisteren op ferrie.audio/b/2F8

  20. Well, another #art and design site (niche as it was), #Ello, died last July (I was a fan, but never had a real chance to get traction on it by the time it was matured enough to be really usable), but looks like a successor, #Cohart, has spawned: teamkilleveryone.com/2023/09/0

  21. Well, another #art and design site (niche as it was), #Ello, died last July (I was a fan, but never had a real chance to get traction on it by the time it was matured enough to be really usable), but looks like a successor, #Cohart, has spawned: teamkilleveryone.com/2023/09/0

  22. It is almost five years now since I left #Ello after it completely lost its way under its third round of management (which I swear was just one guy running it off his laptop while using free Wi-Fi at a LoDo Denver coffee bar). I'm glad I have two people I remember from Ello's better days now sharing here in the Fediverse. I wonder if any others that became disappointed in Ello ended up here? I miss how its Communities worked and wish Pillowfort would do things that way.

  23. The good news is that Ello is no longer throwing SSL errors.

    The bad news is that Ello is now throwing DNS errors. At least according to Cloudflare, though I'm resolving it.

    ello.co

    #Talenthouse #TalenthouseAG #Ello #ItsDeadJim

  24. The good news is that Ello is no longer throwing SSL errors.

    The bad news is that Ello is now throwing DNS errors. At least according to Cloudflare, though I'm resolving it.

    ello.co

    #Talenthouse #TalenthouseAG #Ello #ItsDeadJim

  25. @FerdiZ There's some restructuring-related news from Talenthouse as of four days ago:

    “Talenthouse Announces Share Exchange with Atis Advanced Technologies – Restructuring Measures in Entertainment Sector”

    2023-09-07 20:32:03 Zurich (awp) – The technology platform Talenthouse, in a situation of over-indebtedness, has concluded a share exchange agreement with the Luxembourg-based Atis Advanced Technologies International Solution Holding. The contract provides for the acquisition, through an exchange of shares, of a majority stake in an unidentified company active in the entertainment sector owned by Atis....

    archyde.com/title-talenthouse-

    That's ... approximately as clear as mud, though my read is that Talentnouse sold something to ATIS for desperately-needed cash, though how much isn't stated.

    #Talenthouse #Ello #ElloDeathwatch

    @Mika_Cuervo

  26. @FerdiZ There's some restructuring-related news from Talenthouse as of four days ago:

    “Talenthouse Announces Share Exchange with Atis Advanced Technologies – Restructuring Measures in Entertainment Sector”

    2023-09-07 20:32:03 Zurich (awp) – The technology platform Talenthouse, in a situation of over-indebtedness, has concluded a share exchange agreement with the Luxembourg-based Atis Advanced Technologies International Solution Holding. The contract provides for the acquisition, through an exchange of shares, of a majority stake in an unidentified company active in the entertainment sector owned by Atis....

    archyde.com/title-talenthouse-

    That's ... approximately as clear as mud, though my read is that Talentnouse sold something to ATIS for desperately-needed cash, though how much isn't stated.

    #Talenthouse #Ello #ElloDeathwatch

    @Mika_Cuervo

  27. @Mika_Cuervo I don't -- seems like a decent idea though. A hashtag community for #Ello refugees... #ElloArtists , maybe?

  28. @Mika_Cuervo I don't -- seems like a decent idea though. A hashtag community for #Ello refugees... #ElloArtists , maybe?

  29. @Mika_Cuervo Hey, I was dredmorbius (Dr. Edward Morbius) there as well:

    web.archive.org/web/2016030407

    Any word on what's going on with the site now? It's been down for weeks.

    #ello

  30. @Mika_Cuervo Hey, I was dredmorbius (Dr. Edward Morbius) there as well:

    web.archive.org/web/2016030407

    Any word on what's going on with the site now? It's been down for weeks.

    #ello

  31. Apparently, #Ello (the social network for artists) is dead.

    I guess I'll remove the link to my Ello page from my profile.

    Maybe I'll start using #SmugMug again.

  32. Apparently, #Ello (the social network for artists) is dead.

    I guess I'll remove the link to my Ello page from my profile.

    Maybe I'll start using #SmugMug again.

  33. Soziales Netzwerk „Ello“ abgeschaltet
    Erinnert sich noch jemand an das soziale Netzwerk Ello? 2014, als Facebook versuchte, eine Klarnamenpflicht einzuführen, w…
    ingram-braun.net/erga/2023/09/…
    #Ello #Fotographie #Grafik #SozialesNetzwerk
  34. The slowly-dying Ello is again showing expired SSL certs and Cloudflare errors, presently "Invalid SSL certificate".

    Its parent/owner Talenthouse has apparently been experiencing severe financial difficulties of late. Wikipedia describes Talenthouse in the past tense, and has since 17 August.

    theguardian.com/technology/202

    en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?t

    Edit: Ungarbling language.

    #Talenthouse #TalentHouseAG #Ello #SSLCertificate #SSLExpiration

  35. Speaking of the the late #Ello , this little video on #ElementaryOS /#eOS reflects similar problems that that little Social Media service had, basically treating their Desktop OS Project as a Hipster Art Project instead of addressing the actual needs and wants of users. Their App Center isn’t making money either.

    #Linux #HowNotTo
    youtube.com/watch?v=NYUIKdIY7Y

  36. Sooooo… #Ello keeps being down everywhere (Site, App, Status Page). I think it’s dead, Jim.

    And today I remembered I’m also still on #Hive! I checked: yes, it’s alive. I follow exactly one (1) person, @scalzi, who hasn’t posted over there for eight months WHICH IS ACTUALLY a lot more than I ever did there, shame on me.

    Thus, for Hive, all in all, take the term “alive” with a grain of salt.

  37. Suddenly crossed my mind—whatever happened to #Ello?

    What I found when I checked just now, not only is the site down but their Atlassian status page too.

  38. @danielmrose Yeah, I had completely forgotten about them. But someone on here said that #Ello should join the Fediverse and I googled and was shocked to see that they were still around! Seems they've beaten the odds and found a small but loyal audience. Good for them, eh?