#donutlabs — Public Fediverse posts
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#DonutLabs showed an empty case at CES with the promise to fill it with a revolutionary solid-state battery.
What they actually delivered for testing: a normal Li-ion battery. Parallels to Theranos abound.
https://theness.com/neurologicablog/donut-lab-claims-looking-like-fraud/
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Kind of surprised that #DonutLabs still has their "I Donut Believe" website up after, well, this:
https://www.theverge.com/science/946608/donut-labs-debunk-solid-state-battery
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Donut Lab's miracle battery found to be a fraud, investigation claims
https://interestingengineering.com/energy/donut-labs-miracle-battery-claims-fail
#tech #technology #news #technews #donutlabs #battery #solidstate #fraud
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The #DonutLabs Drama Series Continuo : They didn’t waterboard, but there was a bit of torture in this last test. Still no smoke and flames. This is good news. Various tech hounds are still flailing a bit about what the tests mean.Industry commentary (not that I’ve gone out of my way) seems to have gone from skeptical to muted.
I’ll repeat on priors : We’ve observed highly atypical performance envelopes in specialized industrial and military applications (not just drones) before. Progress happens -
3/n…development industries here in the US, particularly as they relate to spinoff and mainlining of new technology that could become the next dominant technology in a given marketplace. In this case the commercial spinoff and military contracts get forked and become separate entities. New commercial ventures have additional ( usually time limited) terms to abide by. If that were the case then #DonutLabs may have reasons beyond protecting proprietary design to stick to a certain…
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…development industries here in the US, particularly as they relate to spinoff and mainlining of new technology that could become the next dominant technology in a given marketplace marketplace. In this case the commercial spinoff and military contracts get forked and become separate entities. New commercial ventures have additional ( usually time limited) terms to abide by. If that were the case then #DonutLabs may have reasons beyond protecting proprietary design to stick to a certain…
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🔋Donut Labs ⚡Plot twist: Das Elektrolyt sind salzige Kindertränen!!1!! (Quelle: X. Naidoo)
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If you've been following the Donut Labs Solid State battery claims, you may already know they're hard to believe.
With the new test results from independent VTT labs, there is reason to believe it's a fraud and the cell is simply Lithium Nickel Manganese Cobalt (NMC) being charged at an extreme 11C rate causing all the heat you would expect from that.
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If you've been following the Donut Labs Solid State battery claims, you may already know they're hard to believe.
With the new test results from independent VTT labs, there is reason to believe it's a fraud and the cell is simply Lithium Nickel Manganese Cobalt (NMC) being charged at an extreme 11C rate causing all the heat you would expect from that.
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2/2…pretending to be a battery. Of course no one will care if it performs below but still remotely near specs offered at the show. Likewise with production and scaling.There will be forgivenesses…
We know these kinds of leaps in #Engineering/ #Technology are rare. We also know they’re likely to become more frequent. And instantly copied. So no one will blame #DonutLabs for protecting a niche until they get off the ground. I’ll leave the sleuthing to others…but I’d start with a patent search -
2/2…pretending to be a battery. Of course no one will care if it performs below but still remotely near specs offered at the show. Likewise with production and scaling.There will be forgivenesses…
We know these kinds of leaps in #Engineering/ #Technology are rare. We also know they’re likely to become more frequent. And instantly copied. So no one will blame #DonutLabs for protecting a niche until they get off the ground. I’ll leave the sleuthing to others…but I’d start with a patent search -
2/2…pretending to be a battery. Of course no one will care if it performs below but still remotely near specs offered at the show. Likewise with production and scaling.There will be forgivenesses…
We know these kinds of leaps in #Engineering/ #Technology are rare. We also know they’re likely to become more frequent. And instantly copied. So no one will blame #DonutLabs for protecting a niche until they get off the ground. I’ll leave the sleuthing to others…but I’d start with a patent search -
L’autre jour, @PierreCol attirait mon attention sur la #batterie solide de #DonutLabs, sacrément intéressante.
L’article qui suit est assez superficiel mais il semble que les acteurs majeurs du marché aient des doutes sur la réalité du produit. J’espère que leur batterie existe et tient ses promesses, pour la suite du #VehiculeElectrique. -
L’autre jour, @PierreCol attirait mon attention sur la #batterie solide de #DonutLabs, sacrément intéressante.
L’article qui suit est assez superficiel mais il semble que les acteurs majeurs du marché aient des doutes sur la réalité du produit. J’espère que leur batterie existe et tient ses promesses, pour la suite du #VehiculeElectrique. -
Some small details in this Finnish article about #NordicNano and #DonutLabs (and their claimed #solidStateBattery):
Here the Nordic Nano boss seems to be stating that the battery being discussed is not a super capacitor.
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Some small details in this Finnish article about #NordicNano and #DonutLabs (and their claimed #solidStateBattery):
Here the Nordic Nano boss seems to be stating that the battery being discussed is not a super capacitor.
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The #DonutLabs CEO posted on one Facebook conversation to say that third party tests of their #solidStateBattery will be published in a few weeks.
I still can’t make head or tails of this announcement. There is some speculation it’s a capacitor. I mean, more power to them if it is (kind of weird some say that as criticism), but capacitors have had substantially lower energy density.
Also capacity drain energy quite quickly.
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The #DonutLabs CEO posted on one Facebook conversation to say that third party tests of their #solidStateBattery will be published in a few weeks.
I still can’t make head or tails of this announcement. There is some speculation it’s a capacitor. I mean, more power to them if it is (kind of weird some say that as criticism), but capacitors have had substantially lower energy density.
Also capacity drain energy quite quickly.
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A platform of solid state battery tech coming out of stealth in Finland by #donutlabs #finland #suomi #solidstatebattery
Congratulations to the team working on saving our planet. This could transform the world as we know it.
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A platform of solid state battery tech coming out of stealth in Finland by #donutlabs #finland #suomi #solidstatebattery
Congratulations to the team working on saving our planet. This could transform the world as we know it.
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One spec that is curiously different is energy density. In #DonutLabs marketing they state 400Wh/kg. This is a remarkable figure as it would enable battery operated planes. It is significantly better than current batteries. However HBP’s site states their #solidStateBattery at 150Wh/kg. This is in line with current Li-Ion batteries (though their battery has other benefits).
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One spec that is curiously different is energy density. In #DonutLabs marketing they state 400Wh/kg. This is a remarkable figure as it would enable battery operated planes. It is significantly better than current batteries. However HBP’s site states their #solidStateBattery at 150Wh/kg. This is in line with current Li-Ion batteries (though their battery has other benefits).
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I’ve done some investigation into the big claims by #DonutLabs and their first use of a #solidStateBattery (in the #Verge #EV motorbike). In an old interview on Finnish public broadcaster Yle, #NordicNano (Donut portfolio company) stated to be working with a German ‘innovator’ on a battery. I think I may have found them:
https://apers.ro/2023/10/16/german-engineers-create-battery-10x-longer-life-40c-operation/
All the specs match what Donut is claiming. We don’t yet know what power output it has and how (likely small scale) production will work.
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I’ve done some investigation into the big claims by #DonutLabs and their first use of a #solidStateBattery (in the #Verge #EV motorbike). In an old interview on Finnish public broadcaster Yle, #NordicNano (Donut portfolio company) stated to be working with a German ‘innovator’ on a battery. I think I may have found them:
https://apers.ro/2023/10/16/german-engineers-create-battery-10x-longer-life-40c-operation/
All the specs match what Donut is claiming. We don’t yet know what power output it has and how (likely small scale) production will work.
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Donut Labs from Finland announced at CES 2026 a new solid state battery with the following claims;
"400 Wh/kg. Full charge in five minutes. Designed for 100,000 cycles. Lower cost than lithium ion."
if this is true, we are looking at a revolution. But I am very cautious, many companies have claimed breakthroughs without being able to deliver,This is the company's website:
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Donut Labs from Finland announced at CES 2026 a new solid state battery with the following claims;
"400 Wh/kg. Full charge in five minutes. Designed for 100,000 cycles. Lower cost than lithium ion."
if this is true, we are looking at a revolution. But I am very cautious, many companies have claimed breakthroughs without being able to deliver,This is the company's website:
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Finnish #DonutLabs is promising the first in-production #solidStateBattery and to be used in the #EV motorcycle #Verge. Claims are that this can be done at a smaller cost, with high energy density, with very rapid charge times, safer and with a longer lifespan (100,000 cycles) than existing batteries.
Very big claims. Revolutionary even. We wait and see.
https://insideevs.com/news/783380/first-production-ready-all-solid-state-battery-official-specs/
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Finnish #DonutLabs is promising the first in-production #solidStateBattery and to be used in the #EV motorcycle #Verge. Claims are that this can be done at a smaller cost, with high energy density, with very rapid charge times, safer and with a longer lifespan (100,000 cycles) than existing batteries.
Very big claims. Revolutionary even. We wait and see.
https://insideevs.com/news/783380/first-production-ready-all-solid-state-battery-official-specs/
