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My growing retired-transit-card collection

A year ago, this week’s work trip to the Bay Area would have meant breaking out the oldest computer that I was still using with any regularity at the time: the Clipper card that I bought in June of 2012 to pay for fares on BART, Muni and other transit agencies around San Francisco.

But this year, I could leave that NFC-enabled smart card in the little holder in which I store my other stored-value transit cards and instead tap my phone to pay with my business credit card for each ride–first a SamTrans bus from SFO to Millbrae, then Caltrain to San Jose for TechEx North America, then two days of commuting up and down the peninsula for Google I/O.

BART started accepting contactless payments last August, and now all the Bay Area transit services that accept Clipper cards also let you tap to pay with a phone, a smartwatch or a credit or debit card with an NFC chip.

Whether you call it “tap to pay,” “open payments” or “open loop,” letting people pay for a fare as if it were any other on-the-go purchase is a great advance for transit. Especially for out-of-towners, as I realized years ago when visiting Chicago and Portland and appreciating the early lead of their transit services in this key bit of CX.

A growing array of agencies across the U.S. have finally wised up to this after years of requiring people to buy proprietary stored-value cards, install agency-specific apps or make a throwback cash payment: Metro, NYC’s MTA, the T in Boston, NJ Transit buses and light rail, SEPTA around Philadelphia, MARTA in Atlanta, and the Seattle region’s Sound Transit, among many others.

L.A.’s Metro has been a high-profile laggard–a personally inconvenient one since my TAP card expired last year. But this week users have begun reporting success on Reddit and in Bluesky posts with using their phones and credit cards to cover train and bus fares now that Metro there seems to have begun a soft launch of what it calls “TAP Plus.”

As I’ve spent down the balance on transit cards I no longer need, the ones that I still need to use are now most entirely confined to agencies in other countries. Some examples: I love Barcelona’s Metro but I don’t love how it doesn’t support tap to pay; Doha’s driverless metro is a technological marvel but also requires its own colorful card; Vancouver’s Compass Card offers enough of a discount over tap-to-pay rates (because that city didn’t follow Toronto’s fare-neutral example) that I picked up one for last year’s Web Summit conference there and used it again for this year’s event.

But there is one awkward exception right in my neighborhood: Arlington Transit, which continues to require the SmarTrip card that WMATA rolled out in 1999. So while I can pay for Metro like it’s the 21st century, I still have to keep my well-worn SmarTrip card handy in case an ART bus rolls up before a Metro bus does.

My growing retired-transit-card collection

A year ago, this week’s work trip to the Bay Area would have meant breaking out the oldest computer that I was still using with any regularity at the time: the Clipper card that I bought in June of 2012 to pay for fares on BART, Muni and other transit agencies around San Francisco.

But this year, I could leave that NFC-enabled smart card in the little holder in which I store my other stored-value transit cards and instead tap my phone to pay with my business credit card for each ride–first a SamTrans bus from SFO to Millbrae, then Caltrain to San Jose for TechEx North America, then two days of commuting up and down the peninsula for Google I/O.

BART started accepting contactless payments last August, and now all the Bay Area transit services that accept Clipper cards also let you tap to pay with a phone, a smartwatch or a credit or debit card with an NFC chip.

Whether you call it “tap to pay,” “open payments” or “open loop,” letting people pay for a fare as if it were any other on-the-go purchase is a great advance for transit. Especially for out-of-towners, as I realized years ago when visiting Chicago and Portland and appreciating the early lead of their transit services in this key bit of CX.

A growing array of agencies across the U.S. have finally wised up to this after years of requiring people to buy proprietary stored-value cards, install agency-specific apps or make a throwback cash payment: Metro, NYC’s MTA, the T in Boston, NJ Transit buses and light rail, SEPTA around Philadelphia, MARTA in Atlanta, and the Seattle region’s Sound Transit, among many others.

L.A.’s Metro has been a high-profile laggard–a personally inconvenient one since my TAP card expired last year. But this week users have begun reporting success on Reddit and in Bluesky posts with using their phones and credit cards to cover train and bus fares now that Metro there seems to have begun a soft launch of what it calls “TAP Plus.”

As I’ve spent down the balance on transit cards I no longer need, the ones that I still need to use are now most entirely confined to agencies in other countries. Some examples: I love Barcelona’s Metro but I don’t love how it doesn’t support tap to pay; Doha’s driverless metro is a technological marvel but also requires its own colorful card; Vancouver’s Compass Card offers enough of a discount over tap-to-pay rates (because that city didn’t follow Toronto’s fare-neutral example) that I picked up one for last year’s Web Summit conference there and used it again for this year’s event.

But there is one awkward exception right in my neighborhood: Arlington Transit, which continues to require the SmarTrip card that WMATA rolled out in 1999. So while I can pay for Metro like it’s the 21st century, I still have to keep my well-worn SmarTrip card handy in case an ART bus rolls up before a Metro bus does.

My growing retired-transit-card collection

A year ago, this week’s work trip to the Bay Area would have meant breaking out the oldest computer that I was still using with any regularity at the time: the Clipper card that I bought in June of 2012 to pay for fares on BART, Muni and other transit agencies around San Francisco.

But this year, I could leave that NFC-enabled smart card in the little holder in which I store my other stored-value transit cards and instead tap my phone to pay with my business credit card for each ride–first a SamTrans bus from SFO to Millbrae, then Caltrain to San Jose for TechEx North America, then two days of commuting up and down the peninsula for Google I/O.

BART started accepting contactless payments last August, and now all the Bay Area transit services that accept Clipper cards also let you tap to pay with a phone, a smartwatch or a credit or debit card with an NFC chip.

Whether you call it “tap to pay,” “open payments” or “open loop,” letting people pay for a fare as if it were any other on-the-go purchase is a great advance for transit. Especially for out-of-towners, as I realized years ago when visiting Chicago and Portland and appreciating the early lead of their transit services in this key bit of CX.

A growing array of agencies across the U.S. have finally wised up to this after years of requiring people to buy proprietary stored-value cards, install agency-specific apps or make a throwback cash payment: Metro, NYC’s MTA, the T in Boston, NJ Transit buses and light rail, SEPTA around Philadelphia, MARTA in Atlanta, and the Seattle region’s Sound Transit, among many others.

L.A.’s Metro has been a high-profile laggard–a personally inconvenient one since my TAP card expired last year. But this week users have begun reporting success on Reddit and in Bluesky posts with using their phones and credit cards to cover train and bus fares now that Metro there seems to have begun a soft launch of what it calls “TAP Plus.”

As I’ve spent down the balance on transit cards I no longer need, the ones that I still need to use are now most entirely confined to agencies in other countries. Some examples: I love Barcelona’s Metro but I don’t love how it doesn’t support tap to pay; Doha’s driverless metro is a technological marvel but also requires its own colorful card; Vancouver’s Compass Card offers enough of a discount over tap-to-pay rates (because that city didn’t follow Toronto’s fare-neutral example) that I picked up one for last year’s Web Summit conference there and used it again for this year’s event.

But there is one awkward exception right in my neighborhood: Arlington Transit, which continues to require the SmarTrip card that WMATA rolled out in 1999. So while I can pay for Metro like it’s the 21st century, I still have to keep my well-worn SmarTrip card handy in case an ART bus rolls up before a Metro bus does.

My growing retired-transit-card collection

A year ago, this week’s work trip to the Bay Area would have meant breaking out the oldest computer that I was still using with any regularity at the time: the Clipper card that I bought in June of 2012 to pay for fares on BART, Muni and other transit agencies around San Francisco.

But this year, I could leave that NFC-enabled smart card in the little holder in which I store my other stored-value transit cards and instead tap my phone to pay with my business credit card for each ride–first a SamTrans bus from SFO to Millbrae, then Caltrain to San Jose for TechEx North America, then two days of commuting up and down the peninsula for Google I/O.

BART started accepting contactless payments last August, and now all the Bay Area transit services that accept Clipper cards also let you tap to pay with a phone, a smartwatch or a credit or debit card with an NFC chip.

Whether you call it “tap to pay,” “open payments” or “open loop,” letting people pay for a fare as if it were any other on-the-go purchase is a great advance for transit. Especially for out-of-towners, as I realized years ago when visiting Chicago and Portland and appreciating the early lead of their transit services in this key bit of CX.

A growing array of agencies across the U.S. have finally wised up to this after years of requiring people to buy proprietary stored-value cards, install agency-specific apps or make a throwback cash payment: Metro, NYC’s MTA, the T in Boston, NJ Transit buses and light rail, SEPTA around Philadelphia, MARTA in Atlanta, and the Seattle region’s Sound Transit, among many others.

L.A.’s Metro has been a high-profile laggard–a personally inconvenient one since my TAP card expired last year. But this week users have begun reporting success on Reddit and in Bluesky posts with using their phones and credit cards to cover train and bus fares now that Metro there seems to have begun a soft launch of what it calls “TAP Plus.”

As I’ve spent down the balance on transit cards I no longer need, the ones that I still need to use are now most entirely confined to agencies in other countries. Some examples: I love Barcelona’s Metro but I don’t love how it doesn’t support tap to pay; Doha’s driverless metro is a technological marvel but also requires its own colorful card; Vancouver’s Compass Card offers enough of a discount over tap-to-pay rates (because that city didn’t follow Toronto’s fare-neutral example) that I picked up one for last year’s Web Summit conference there and used it again for this year’s event.

But there is one awkward exception right in my neighborhood: Arlington Transit, which continues to require the SmarTrip card that WMATA rolled out in 1999. So while I can pay for Metro like it’s the 21st century, I still have to keep my well-worn SmarTrip card handy in case an ART bus rolls up before a Metro bus does.

@dev Agree. My #VTA + #BART + #ACTransit route used to be $8.55 on my #clippercard , now it's $3.70. Not sure how this math / finance works out.

I did read that the current discount is up for review in approx 18-24 months.

@dev Agree. My #VTA + #BART + #ACTransit route used to be $8.55 on my #clippercard , now it's $3.70. Not sure how this math / finance works out.

I did read that the current discount is up for review in approx 18-24 months.

@dev Agree. My #VTA + #BART + #ACTransit route used to be $8.55 on my #clippercard , now it's $3.70. Not sure how this math / finance works out.

I did read that the current discount is up for review in approx 18-24 months.

@dev Agree. My #VTA + #BART + #ACTransit route used to be $8.55 on my #clippercard , now it's $3.70. Not sure how this math / finance works out.

I did read that the current discount is up for review in approx 18-24 months.

@dev Agree. My #VTA + #BART + #ACTransit route used to be $8.55 on my #clippercard , now it's $3.70. Not sure how this math / finance works out.

I did read that the current discount is up for review in approx 18-24 months.

Today, I picked up my pensioner pass from #ACTransit. One of the benefits of retirement from AC Transit is free bus rides.

To get there, I caught the day’s last #actransit Line 800 to transfer to BART. It was the last AC Transit trip I’ll ever have to pay for (at least for myself). It was on one of the last Van Hool buses still in operation, one of the 60-foot articulated models.

I rode BART to downtown Oakland where the AC Transit office is. I picked up my pass. I also picked up a youth Clipper card for my daughter, who just became old enough to have to pay for transit.

#ClipperCard #PublicTransportation #Transit

Holy shit. With the state of public transit payments, it's a freaking wonder anyone rides. I am hanging so much trouble with the fucking Clipper app today, and don't really want to wait for the 67 people ahead of me in the phone queue. #ClipperCard

Bay Area transit officials slam nearly 700-day delay of Clipper 2.0 rollout. Riders deserve better. New launch expected late August. #BayAreaTransit #ClipperCard #PublicTransit
🔗 https://thevoicesf.org/bay-area-transit-officials-slam-clipper-2-0-delays-say-bay-area-deserves-better/

Bay Area transit officials slam nearly 700-day delay of Clipper 2.0 rollout. Riders deserve better. New launch expected late August. #BayAreaTransit #ClipperCard #PublicTransit
🔗 https://thevoicesf.org/bay-area-transit-officials-slam-clipper-2-0-delays-say-bay-area-deserves-better/

Bay Area transit officials slam nearly 700-day delay of Clipper 2.0 rollout. Riders deserve better. New launch expected late August. #BayAreaTransit #ClipperCard #PublicTransit
🔗 https://thevoicesf.org/bay-area-transit-officials-slam-clipper-2-0-delays-say-bay-area-deserves-better/

Bay Area transit officials slam nearly 700-day delay of Clipper 2.0 rollout. Riders deserve better. New launch expected late August. #BayAreaTransit #ClipperCard #PublicTransit
🔗 https://thevoicesf.org/bay-area-transit-officials-slam-clipper-2-0-delays-say-bay-area-deserves-better/

This is the part I cry in #ClipperCard for the week

For all you #SFBA folks, has anyone had trouble transferring their virtual clipper cards to a new phone?

Luckily I still have one physical one for guests because both of my virtual ones are not working on new phone #clippercard #ACtransit #SFmuni

For people who use a #clippercard for #bart or #ACtransit or whatever...

Am I reading the fine print right that once I paid online to "add value" onto the card, the reason I can't see if it made it onto the card is because the funds aren't actually added until I tag in?

That seems... ridiculous. So I can't check to see if it worked till I get there and am in a hurry?