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INPEX Launches Japan’s First Blue Hydrogen & Ammonia Park
INPEX has inaugurated its Kashiwazaki Hydrogen Park in Niigata Prefecture, marking a major milestone in Japan’s effort to build out low-carbon hydrogen and ammonia supply chains. The facility represents one of the country’s most advanced demonstrations of blue hydrogen production…
#Japan #JP #JapanNews #ammonia #apac #asia #bluehydrogen #inpex #news
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https://www.alojapan.com/1422204/inpex-launches-japans-first-blue-hydrogen-ammonia-park/ INPEX Launches Japan’s First Blue Hydrogen & Ammonia Park #ammonia #apac #asia #BlueHydrogen #inpex #Japan #JapanNews #news INPEX has inaugurated its Kashiwazaki Hydrogen Park in Niigata Prefecture, marking a major milestone in Japan’s effort to build out low-carbon hydrogen and ammonia supply chains. The facility represents one of the country’s most advanced demonstrations of blue hydrogen production paired with full carbon capture, ut
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Sieht so aus, als sind die aktuellen Heilsbringer-Technologien nicht wirklich etwas wert. Wir werden wohl nicht umhin kommen wirkliche Veränderungen anzuschieben:
“Direct capture is a scam, carbon capture is a scam, blue hydrogen is a scam, and electrofuel is a scam. These are all scam technologies that do nothing for the climate or air pollution“
#ccs #dac #bluehydrogen #electrofuel #BlauerWasserstoff #efuels #climatechange #klimakrise #katharinareiche #cdu
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Sieht so aus, als sind die aktuellen Heilsbringer-Technologien nicht wirklich etwas wert. Wir werden wohl nicht umhin kommen wirkliche Veränderungen anzuschieben:
“Direct capture is a scam, carbon capture is a scam, blue hydrogen is a scam, and electrofuel is a scam. These are all scam technologies that do nothing for the climate or air pollution“
#ccs #dac #bluehydrogen #electrofuel #BlauerWasserstoff #efuels #climatechange #klimakrise #katharinareiche #cdu
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Calgary Region Hydrogen Hub kickoff webinar tomorrow Thursday 2025May8 noon MT / 2pm ET.
Transition Accelerator's Dan Wicklum & #CRH2 Lead Zak Cunningham discuss hype, skepticism & the reality.
#hydrogen #H2 #HydrogenHub #YYC #BlueHydrogen #GreenHydrogen
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Calgary Region Hydrogen Hub kickoff webinar tomorrow Thursday 2025May8 noon MT / 2pm ET.
Transition Accelerator's Dan Wicklum & #CRH2 Lead Zak Cunningham discuss hype, skepticism & the reality.
#hydrogen #H2 #HydrogenHub #YYC #BlueHydrogen #GreenHydrogen
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#BlueHydrogen is fossil-based, with CO2 captured w/ #CCS
Research shows that #blueH2 total ghg footprint can be 20% or even 50% worse 4 the planet than burning gas directly.
Fossil fuel lobbyists have for years lobbied to label #blueH2 as low carbon or clean.
🪄 Emissions accounting tricks by #Basf #ArcelorMittal #Yara #E.ON & other Oil&Gas + #EnergyIntensive polluters
🎩 by simply removing from emission calculations what makes it so damaging for the climate (methane leakage)
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#BlueHydrogen is fossil-based, with CO2 captured w/ #CCS
Research shows that #blueH2 total ghg footprint can be 20% or even 50% worse 4 the planet than burning gas directly.
Fossil fuel lobbyists have for years lobbied to label #blueH2 as low carbon or clean.
🪄 Emissions accounting tricks by #Basf #ArcelorMittal #Yara #E.ON & other Oil&Gas + #EnergyIntensive polluters
🎩 by simply removing from emission calculations what makes it so damaging for the climate (methane leakage)
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#BlueHydrogen is fossil-based, with CO2 captured w/ #CCS Research shows that #blueH2 total ghg footprint can be 20% or even 50% worse 4 the planet than burning gas directly. Fossil fuel lobbyists have for years lobbied to label #blueH2 as low carbon or clean. corporateeurope.org/en/dirty-tru...
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That's a well written tear down highlighting the issues with blue hydrogen, CCS and ongoing fossil fuel processing at the Stanlow refinery.
It's depressing that the Labour government is clearly in thrawl to the fossil fuel industry. Not to the extent the Tories were, but enough to allow them to divert billions into projects that shouldn't exist.
#ccs #labour #climatechange #hydrogen #bluehydrogen #teesside
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That's a well written tear down highlighting the issues with blue hydrogen, CCS and ongoing fossil fuel processing at the Stanlow refinery.
It's depressing that the Labour government is clearly in thrawl to the fossil fuel industry. Not to the extent the Tories were, but enough to allow them to divert billions into projects that shouldn't exist.
#ccs #labour #climatechange #hydrogen #bluehydrogen #teesside
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Is there a Rich Man's Folly the British Government won't fall for?
Crypto
GenAI
Carbon Capture
Blue HydrogenAll gets money from the State while social services starve.
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Is there a Rich Man's Folly the British Government won't fall for?
Crypto
GenAI
Carbon Capture
Blue HydrogenAll gets money from the State while social services starve.
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‘Blue’ Hydrogen Could Produce 50% More Warming than Burning Fossil Fuels
"[Canada] “is betting big on #BlueHydrogen, a fossil fuel-derived chemical masquerading as an energy solution."
This research should finally lay to rest the unfounded hope that creating incentives for fossil #hydrogen production in Canada is any kind of solution for the climate, or for economic development.”
https://www.theenergymix.com/blue-hydrogen-could-produce-50-more-warming-than-burning-fossil-fuels/
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‘Blue’ Hydrogen Could Produce 50% More Warming than Burning Fossil Fuels
"[Canada] “is betting big on #BlueHydrogen, a fossil fuel-derived chemical masquerading as an energy solution."
This research should finally lay to rest the unfounded hope that creating incentives for fossil #hydrogen production in Canada is any kind of solution for the climate, or for economic development.”
https://www.theenergymix.com/blue-hydrogen-could-produce-50-more-warming-than-burning-fossil-fuels/
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Danish CIP to build a hydrogen and ammonia plant in Naturgassparken Vest in Norway.
-CIP is a Danish fund manager investing in green energy
-Naturgassparken Vest includes Northern Lights, a CO₂ storage initiative run by Equinor, Shell, and TotalEnergies
-CIP aims to produce #bluehydrogen and ammoniahttps://www.ccbeh.com/news/plans-for-establishing-large-scale-energy-production-in-the-energy-park
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Warning: the UK government’s hydrogen plan isn’t green at all, it’s another oil industry swindle https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/04/uk-government-hydrogen-plan-oil-industry-taxpayer-blue-hydrogen-climate-crisis?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Well, who would have imagined?
I guess at least they have the decency to call it ‘blue’ but we mustn’t let the low carbon claim stick.
#bluehydrogen scam - #bluewash
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Warning: the UK government’s hydrogen plan isn’t green at all, it’s another oil industry swindle https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/04/uk-government-hydrogen-plan-oil-industry-taxpayer-blue-hydrogen-climate-crisis?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Well, who would have imagined?
I guess at least they have the decency to call it ‘blue’ but we mustn’t let the low carbon claim stick.
#bluehydrogen scam - #bluewash
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Why is the US investing $7 billion from the Inflation Reduction Act in hydrogen made from fossil fuels? Is this really going to be a big win for the environment?
https://www.marketplace.org/2023/10/13/biden-administration-announces-7-billion-for-hydrogen-hubs/"Far from being low carbon, greenhouse gas emissions from the production of blue hydrogen are quite high, particularly due to the release of fugitive methane"
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ese3.956
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#InflationReductionAct #hydrogen #BlueHydrogen #FossilFuels #fracking #ClimateChange #Biden #methane -
Why is the US investing $7 billion from the Inflation Reduction Act in hydrogen made from fossil fuels? Is this really going to be a big win for the environment?
https://www.marketplace.org/2023/10/13/biden-administration-announces-7-billion-for-hydrogen-hubs/"Far from being low carbon, greenhouse gas emissions from the production of blue hydrogen are quite high, particularly due to the release of fugitive methane"
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ese3.956
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#InflationReductionAct #hydrogen #BlueHydrogen #FossilFuels #fracking #ClimateChange #Biden #methane -
This is a follow up to a post I wrote a few moths ago about #hydrogen Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles (#FCEV) as an alternative to Battery Electric Vehicles (#BEV).
An article from Cornell states that even so called “Blue Hydrogen” is a more CO₂ intensive than diesel.
“The carbon footprint to create blue hydrogen is more than 20% greater than using either natural gas or coal directly for heat, or about 60% greater than using diesel oil for heat, according to new research published Aug. 12 in Energy Science & Engineering.”
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This is a follow up to a post I wrote a few moths ago about #hydrogen Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles (#FCEV) as an alternative to Battery Electric Vehicles (#BEV).
An article from Cornell states that even so called “Blue Hydrogen” is a more CO₂ intensive than diesel.
“The carbon footprint to create blue hydrogen is more than 20% greater than using either natural gas or coal directly for heat, or about 60% greater than using diesel oil for heat, according to new research published Aug. 12 in Energy Science & Engineering.”
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"There’s a price tag that comes with #decarbonization. This is why we need all forces involved."
All forces must be involved to implement successful Everything, Everywhere, All at Once #ClimateChange mitigation solutions.
We must continually advance and not let the "perfect" be the enemy of the good, while never settling for the not enough "good enough".
Truly #GreenHydrogen is best, but #BlueHydrogen can be a short-term bridge (much better than #diesel) to that goal.
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"There’s a price tag that comes with #decarbonization. This is why we need all forces involved."
All forces must be involved to implement successful Everything, Everywhere, All at Once #ClimateChange mitigation solutions.
We must continually advance and not let the "perfect" be the enemy of the good, while never settling for the not enough "good enough".
Truly #GreenHydrogen is best, but #BlueHydrogen can be a short-term bridge (much better than #diesel) to that goal.
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Ok, Let’s talk about #hydrogen Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles (#FCEV) as an alternative to Battery Electric Vehicles (#BEV).
A FCEV uses the same electric motors as BEVs but gets its power from chemically reacting H₂ with O₂ from the air in a way that produces an electric current - a fuel cell. None of this is new technology Fuel Cells were a mature and reliable power source by the time the Apollo program was landing people on the moon. The issue with fuel cells is the same as with Enteral Combustion Engines(ICE) they are most efficient in a very narrow energy band great if the goal is to power the life support on a space craft, but not for the extremely variable loads needed to drive a car.
For this reason, FCEVs are hybrids with the same Li batteries as BEVs and ICE Hybrids like the Prius. Like ICE Hybrids they use the battery to accelerate and as storage for regenerative breaking with the fuel cell providing a constant recharge.
Why I’m skeptical of FCEVs
1) Greenwashing Hydrogen. FCEV advocates will point out that the only tailpipe emission is water vapor. The question is where does the hydrogen come from. By far the least expensive way to produce hydrogen gas is to crack the hydrogen atoms off of petrochemical hydrocarbons. As a mater of basic chemistry it takes far less energy to crack hydrocarbons than it does to electrolize water. And unlike the electrical grid where technologies like solar, wind and nuclear are already deployed and becoming an increasing share of our electric grid. Processes to produce hydrogen from water at anything close the the cost to strip it off fossil fuels is in the same development stage as cold fusion. at least for the next decade green hydrogen will be a premium product only available to the wealthiest buyers.
2) Hydrogen storage is hard. To fit enough hydrogen on a moving passenger car for it to have a 300 mile range requires pressures of 10,000psi (700 bar). The kinds of pressure vessels that can safely handle that pressure are expensive, and need regular inspection. Having had to keep a compressed air tank of just 200 psi in a fixed certified, I can tell you that there will be significant costs to regularly inspecting a 10,000 psi tank full of flammable gas that needs to survive a collision with one of the 2023 lineup of full sized puck up trucks.
But that is just the start. Hydrogen leaks. No matter how good you think your valves and fittings are the smallest molecule in the universe stored under huge pressure will find a way out. Ask anyone who has experience in the space industry where hydrogen is already the fuel of choice and they will tell you that hydrogen leaks are just a fact that has to be engineered around. On a vehicle this will be a small annoyance but at a fueling station this will be significant. The farther Hydrogen is transported and the longer it must be stored the higher the losses. There is also the energy factor of compressing that gas. To the best of my knowledge the prodigious amount of work done to pressurize the fuel is never recovered
FCEVs and BEVs both started to be produced about a decade ago, and while Tesla has scaled out its supercharger network world wide in that time. Hydrogen has less than 100 filling stations all in California. While these stations can fill a car in 5 minutes, they can only fill 2 to 5 vehicles before spending an hour refilling their high pressure storage tanks. One could argue that all Hydrogen needs is an eccentric billionaire ready to lose money for a decade building out infrastructure, however I think the infrastructure challenges with hydrogen exceed even Musk levels of ambition.
3) Cost. My M3 already costs noticeably less per mile that the equivalent ICE vehicle. Baring a huge technological leap, hydrogen will always be more expensive. because the least expensive hydrogen is processed out of the same fuel that runs ICE cars and provides less energy per molecule than those hydrocarbons when reacted with O₂ hydrogen cannot help but be a more expensive fuel.
So why are hydrogen FCEV still a thing? Well the vehicles are lighter, fueling times are comparable to gasoline, and the petrochemical industry is desperate for them to succeed. The oil industry can see the writing on the wall as states like California will ban new ICE vehicle sales in 2030. While holding out hope for a green hydrogen future a generation away, they can continue to have a market for their product as gasoline and diesel phase out. “Hydrogen will become the green fuel of the future” explain their sock puppets knowing that dirty hydrogen from their product will always have a price advantage. And to be fair, turning a mobile source into a point source of emissions does provide the opportunity for carbon capture (so called Blue Hydrogen), but all this still add even more cost while BEVs already have a price advantage in their fuel - not to mention that every home in the developed world has the infrastructure to charge BEVs.
Why write all this? Because when you get down to it most of the #FUD being spread around #EV s is coming from FCEV advocates who are trying not to let hydrogen become the betamax of the transition away from ICE transportation. In doing so they are making it harder than necessary for the world to move away from ICE transportation.
References:
https://www.thedrive.com/tech/33408/why-we-still-cant-deliver-on-the-promise-of-hydrogen-carshttps://www.caranddriver.com/features/a41103863/hydrogen-cars-fcev/
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#GreenHydrogen #BlueHydrogen #ClimateCrisis #fossilefuel #greenwashing #Tesla #Toyota #Mirai #electrolysis -
Ok, Let’s talk about #hydrogen Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles (#FCEV) as an alternative to Battery Electric Vehicles (#BEV).
A FCEV uses the same electric motors as BEVs but gets its power from chemically reacting H₂ with O₂ from the air in a way that produces an electric current - a fuel cell. None of this is new technology Fuel Cells were a mature and reliable power source by the time the Apollo program was landing people on the moon. The issue with fuel cells is the same as with Enteral Combustion Engines(ICE) they are most efficient in a very narrow energy band great if the goal is to power the life support on a space craft, but not for the extremely variable loads needed to drive a car.
For this reason, FCEVs are hybrids with the same Li batteries as BEVs and ICE Hybrids like the Prius. Like ICE Hybrids they use the battery to accelerate and as storage for regenerative breaking with the fuel cell providing a constant recharge.
Why I’m skeptical of FCEVs
1) Greenwashing Hydrogen. FCEV advocates will point out that the only tailpipe emission is water vapor. The question is where does the hydrogen come from. By far the least expensive way to produce hydrogen gas is to crack the hydrogen atoms off of petrochemical hydrocarbons. As a mater of basic chemistry it takes far less energy to crack hydrocarbons than it does to electrolize water. And unlike the electrical grid where technologies like solar, wind and nuclear are already deployed and becoming an increasing share of our electric grid. Processes to produce hydrogen from water at anything close the the cost to strip it off fossil fuels is in the same development stage as cold fusion. at least for the next decade green hydrogen will be a premium product only available to the wealthiest buyers.
2) Hydrogen storage is hard. To fit enough hydrogen on a moving passenger car for it to have a 300 mile range requires pressures of 10,000psi (700 bar). The kinds of pressure vessels that can safely handle that pressure are expensive, and need regular inspection. Having had to keep a compressed air tank of just 200 psi in a fixed certified, I can tell you that there will be significant costs to regularly inspecting a 10,000 psi tank full of flammable gas that needs to survive a collision with one of the 2023 lineup of full sized puck up trucks.
But that is just the start. Hydrogen leaks. No matter how good you think your valves and fittings are the smallest molecule in the universe stored under huge pressure will find a way out. Ask anyone who has experience in the space industry where hydrogen is already the fuel of choice and they will tell you that hydrogen leaks are just a fact that has to be engineered around. On a vehicle this will be a small annoyance but at a fueling station this will be significant. The farther Hydrogen is transported and the longer it must be stored the higher the losses. There is also the energy factor of compressing that gas. To the best of my knowledge the prodigious amount of work done to pressurize the fuel is never recovered
FCEVs and BEVs both started to be produced about a decade ago, and while Tesla has scaled out its supercharger network world wide in that time. Hydrogen has less than 100 filling stations all in California. While these stations can fill a car in 5 minutes, they can only fill 2 to 5 vehicles before spending an hour refilling their high pressure storage tanks. One could argue that all Hydrogen needs is an eccentric billionaire ready to lose money for a decade building out infrastructure, however I think the infrastructure challenges with hydrogen exceed even Musk levels of ambition.
3) Cost. My M3 already costs noticeably less per mile that the equivalent ICE vehicle. Baring a huge technological leap, hydrogen will always be more expensive. because the least expensive hydrogen is processed out of the same fuel that runs ICE cars and provides less energy per molecule than those hydrocarbons when reacted with O₂ hydrogen cannot help but be a more expensive fuel.
So why are hydrogen FCEV still a thing? Well the vehicles are lighter, fueling times are comparable to gasoline, and the petrochemical industry is desperate for them to succeed. The oil industry can see the writing on the wall as states like California will ban new ICE vehicle sales in 2030. While holding out hope for a green hydrogen future a generation away, they can continue to have a market for their product as gasoline and diesel phase out. “Hydrogen will become the green fuel of the future” explain their sock puppets knowing that dirty hydrogen from their product will always have a price advantage. And to be fair, turning a mobile source into a point source of emissions does provide the opportunity for carbon capture (so called Blue Hydrogen), but all this still add even more cost while BEVs already have a price advantage in their fuel - not to mention that every home in the developed world has the infrastructure to charge BEVs.
Why write all this? Because when you get down to it most of the #FUD being spread around #EV s is coming from FCEV advocates who are trying not to let hydrogen become the betamax of the transition away from ICE transportation. In doing so they are making it harder than necessary for the world to move away from ICE transportation.
References:
https://www.thedrive.com/tech/33408/why-we-still-cant-deliver-on-the-promise-of-hydrogen-carshttps://www.caranddriver.com/features/a41103863/hydrogen-cars-fcev/
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#GreenHydrogen #BlueHydrogen #ClimateCrisis #fossilefuel #greenwashing #Tesla #Toyota #Mirai #electrolysis -
Beware people talking clean hydrogen, they are the ones who brought you clean coal
https://reneweconomy.com.au/beware-people-talking-clean-hydrogen-they-are-the-one-who-brought-you-clean-coal/"Clean Coal" is a furphy, and it's looking like "Clean Hydrogen" is unattainable. In reality, practically all hydrogen made today is extracted from fossil fuels, or is made from water by electrolysis that's powered by a non-renewable source of electricity.
Some people talk about "Blue hydrogen" and claim they're cracked the secret of making it in commercial volumes at a price that's competitive with renewables, but they're not being honest with you about the cost or the quality of their product. Proponents claim that coal — such as Victoria's incredibly dirty, low-quality, high-pollutant brown coal — can be transformed into "Brown Hydrogen" or "Black Hydrogen" by capturing the carbon liberated during the hydrogen extraction process using Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS). Same goes for "Blue Hydrogen" that's extracted from fossil gas.
They're sorta correct, in the sense that you can get out hydrogen. But if you blink you'll miss seeing where the Carbon goes. By then, they'll attempt to scratch off the label to rebrand their dirty hydrogen as "Green Hydrogen".Herein lies the scam: they're saying is can be done cleanly. The problem is that they're using CSS as part of the process. It would be nice if CCS worked at an industrial scale at any price, but it doesn't. Countless millions of dollars have been poured by governments around the world into CCS pilot-plants at fossil fuel companies. The fossil fuel companies have all pocketed the money and failed to produce results.
Scratch the surface of any hydrogen-bro, and you'll find a hydrocarbon-bro who's deliberately propping-up the unsustainable coal/gas/petrol industry or is an unwitting fool who's science-illiterate.
#AusPol #ElectrifyEverything #Renewables #FossilGas #Electrolysis #Hydrogen #CleanHydrogen #GreenHydrogen #BlueHydrogen #BlackHydrogen #BrownHydrogen #CarbonCaptureAndStorage #CCS
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Beware people talking clean hydrogen, they are the ones who brought you clean coal
https://reneweconomy.com.au/beware-people-talking-clean-hydrogen-they-are-the-one-who-brought-you-clean-coal/"Clean Coal" is a furphy, and it's looking like "Clean Hydrogen" is unattainable. In reality, practically all hydrogen made today is extracted from fossil fuels, or is made from water by electrolysis that's powered by a non-renewable source of electricity.
Some people talk about "Blue hydrogen" and claim they're cracked the secret of making it in commercial volumes at a price that's competitive with renewables, but they're not being honest with you about the cost or the quality of their product. Proponents claim that coal — such as Victoria's incredibly dirty, low-quality, high-pollutant brown coal — can be transformed into "Brown Hydrogen" or "Black Hydrogen" by capturing the carbon liberated during the hydrogen extraction process using Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS). Same goes for "Blue Hydrogen" that's extracted from fossil gas.
They're sorta correct, in the sense that you can get out hydrogen. But if you blink you'll miss seeing where the Carbon goes. By then, they'll attempt to scratch off the label to rebrand their dirty hydrogen as "Green Hydrogen".Herein lies the scam: they're saying is can be done cleanly. The problem is that they're using CSS as part of the process. It would be nice if CCS worked at an industrial scale at any price, but it doesn't. Countless millions of dollars have been poured by governments around the world into CCS pilot-plants at fossil fuel companies. The fossil fuel companies have all pocketed the money and failed to produce results.
Scratch the surface of any hydrogen-bro, and you'll find a hydrocarbon-bro who's deliberately propping-up the unsustainable coal/gas/petrol industry or is an unwitting fool who's science-illiterate.
#AusPol #ElectrifyEverything #Renewables #FossilGas #Electrolysis #Hydrogen #CleanHydrogen #GreenHydrogen #BlueHydrogen #BlackHydrogen #BrownHydrogen #CarbonCaptureAndStorage #CCS
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@publius
not to mention about 40% boil off loss of hydrogen in transporting it in liquid form for 9,000kms to Japan.
See Andrew Gorringe, IEEFA, 3 July, 2023, Hydrogen Energy Supply Chain project viability remains uncertain in wake of Hydrogen Headstart scheme for green hydrogen, https://ieefa.org/resources/hydrogen-energy-supply-chain-project-viability-remains-uncertain-wake-hydrogen-headstart
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@publius
not to mention about 40% boil off loss of hydrogen in transporting it in liquid form for 9,000kms to Japan.
See Andrew Gorringe, IEEFA, 3 July, 2023, Hydrogen Energy Supply Chain project viability remains uncertain in wake of Hydrogen Headstart scheme for green hydrogen, https://ieefa.org/resources/hydrogen-energy-supply-chain-project-viability-remains-uncertain-wake-hydrogen-headstart
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"Nitrogen fertiliser giant #Nutrien has shelved plans for a 1.2 million tonnes-a-year blue ammonia plant at its complex in Geismar, #Louisiana."
#BlueHydrogen is #hydrogen produced from fossil gas with a process of steam #methane reforming, where natural gas is mixed with very hot steam and a catalyst. Nutrien wants to do this with #CCS, so they can call it "clean".
#greenwashing
https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/production/worlds-largest-blue-hydrogen-based-ammonia-project-shelved-due-to-increased-costs-and-lack-of-market/2-1-1499569 -
"Nitrogen fertiliser giant #Nutrien has shelved plans for a 1.2 million tonnes-a-year blue ammonia plant at its complex in Geismar, #Louisiana."
#BlueHydrogen is #hydrogen produced from fossil gas with a process of steam #methane reforming, where natural gas is mixed with very hot steam and a catalyst. Nutrien wants to do this with #CCS, so they can call it "clean".
#greenwashing
https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/production/worlds-largest-blue-hydrogen-based-ammonia-project-shelved-due-to-increased-costs-and-lack-of-market/2-1-1499569 -
🇳🇱 Apparently they are going to make blue hydrogen instead of grey hydrogen in Rotterdam.
The captured CO2 is going to the Porthos project. That project is going to pump 2,5 million ton CO2 per year down into an old gas field. Quite a lot.
What do we think of that? Blue is better than grey, but green would have been even better.
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🇳🇱 Apparently they are going to make blue hydrogen instead of grey hydrogen in Rotterdam.
The captured CO2 is going to the Porthos project. That project is going to pump 2,5 million ton CO2 per year down into an old gas field. Quite a lot.
What do we think of that? Blue is better than grey, but green would have been even better.
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If I were one of Rishi's vast, expensive PR team, I'd advise him to just shut the fuck up for a few weeks.
Over the last few days, we've had the following car crashes
Private jet to Scotland to announce #greenwashing BS Acorn #carboncapture & #bluehydrogen project
Verbal punch-up on radio
More oil & gas licences after BP contract with family firmNow suggesting #Brexit gets cheaper beer in pubs than EU. He's never been to Spain. Nor Germany.
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If I were one of Rishi's vast, expensive PR team, I'd advise him to just shut the fuck up for a few weeks.
Over the last few days, we've had the following car crashes
Private jet to Scotland to announce #greenwashing BS Acorn #carboncapture & #bluehydrogen project
Verbal punch-up on radio
More oil & gas licences after BP contract with family firmNow suggesting #Brexit gets cheaper beer in pubs than EU. He's never been to Spain. Nor Germany.
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The Acorn Project
Sounds nice. What could it be? Perhaps some reforestation? Replacing inner city streets with green spaces? Getting everybody to grow some of their own food?
No. It's fucking carbon capture and making hydrogen from fucking natural gas.
WTAF?
This is about the fourth time that Rishi Sunak has boiled my piss today.
#carboncapture #climatechange #Tories #RishiSunak #RishiSnake #bluehydrogen #greenwashing #Tories #northseagas #bigoil
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The Acorn Project
Sounds nice. What could it be? Perhaps some reforestation? Replacing inner city streets with green spaces? Getting everybody to grow some of their own food?
No. It's fucking carbon capture and making hydrogen from fucking natural gas.
WTAF?
This is about the fourth time that Rishi Sunak has boiled my piss today.
#carboncapture #climatechange #Tories #RishiSunak #RishiSnake #bluehydrogen #greenwashing #Tories #northseagas #bigoil
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Germany commits to ‘blue hydrogen’ in updated national strategy https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy-environment/news/germanys-updated-hydrogen-strategy-new-commitment-to-fossil-based-hydrogen/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=mastodon #bluehydrogen #electrolysers #Germany #Greenhydrogen #hydrogen
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Germany commits to ‘blue hydrogen’ in updated national strategy https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy-environment/news/germanys-updated-hydrogen-strategy-new-commitment-to-fossil-based-hydrogen/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=mastodon #bluehydrogen #electrolysers #Germany #Greenhydrogen #hydrogen
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#BlueHydrogen is a blatant attempt to get us pumping even more dollars into petro states. We must be smarter than that.
https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/production/saudi-aramco-struggling-to-find-buyers-for-its-blue-hydrogen-due-to-high-costs/2-1-1449004 -
You liked it and listened to it, so we're making it a regular thing: Here's the latest C&EN Uncovered, where I talk with Rick Mullin about his coverage of a proposed Air Products CO₂ sequestration site in Louisiana, where residents are bucking historical trends by resisting a project that petroleum producers want to see built. Available at the link below or on the Stereo Chemistry feed wherever you normally get your podcasts.
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Opinion: Renewable energy gathered through non-green processes such as blue hydrogen should be considered in areas where green form is not available as any kind of reduction in emmisions is a good thing, but they should be priced right to give significant incentives to migrate on green hydrogen.
#EU #EUPolitics #politics #green #ecology #hydrogen #bluehydrogen #greenhydrogen #opinion
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Opinion: Renewable energy gathered through non-green processes such as blue hydrogen should be considered in areas where green form is not available as any kind of reduction in emmisions is a good thing, but they should be priced right to give significant incentives to migrate on green hydrogen.
#EU #EUPolitics #politics #green #ecology #hydrogen #bluehydrogen #greenhydrogen #opinion
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The one hyped by the #FossiFuel industry:
"#BlueHydrogen: Almost universally, steam #methane reforming linked to carbon capture and storage. Despite significant hyperventilation and hand waving, to date not so much as one single molecule of blue hydrogen has ever been created."
They hype it, they can't hack it, they end up selling you their dirty #hydrogen: "grey" from fossil gas, or worse, "brown", from #coal. Without mitigation.
https://timinclimate.medium.com/to-all-the-colours-of-hydrogen-ive-loved-before-9caca572cc00 -
The one hyped by the #FossiFuel industry:
"#BlueHydrogen: Almost universally, steam #methane reforming linked to carbon capture and storage. Despite significant hyperventilation and hand waving, to date not so much as one single molecule of blue hydrogen has ever been created."
They hype it, they can't hack it, they end up selling you their dirty #hydrogen: "grey" from fossil gas, or worse, "brown", from #coal. Without mitigation.
https://timinclimate.medium.com/to-all-the-colours-of-hydrogen-ive-loved-before-9caca572cc00 -
"Wind, water and solar energy is cheap, effective and green. We don’t need experimental or risky energy sources to save our planet"
by Prof. Mark Z. Jacobson.
More from Jacobson: https://twitter.com/mzjacobson#EnergyTransition #ClimateCrisis #CCS #Geoengineering #BlueHydrogen #NuclearPower
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>Hydrogen fuel could double your energy bills - and isn’t as green as you think, research warns
#Hydrogen
#GrayHydrogen
#GreyHydrogen
#BlueHydrogen
#GreenHydrogen
#ClimateCrisis
#FossilFuels
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>Hydrogen fuel could double your energy bills - and isn’t as green as you think, research warns
#Hydrogen
#GrayHydrogen
#GreyHydrogen
#BlueHydrogen
#GreenHydrogen
#ClimateCrisis
#FossilFuels
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Australia and Japan are working together on a new #CCS hub, which could include #BlueHydrogen and #BlueAmmonia.
But our previous research has shown that 'blue' (gas+CCS) hydrogen & ammonia is not truly clean energy, and #CCS is prone to high costs.
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Australia and Japan are working together on a new #CCS hub, which could include #BlueHydrogen and #BlueAmmonia.
But our previous research has shown that 'blue' (gas+CCS) hydrogen & ammonia is not truly clean energy, and #CCS is prone to high costs.
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Blue hydrogen: Gas industry paid lobbyists £200,000 to get MPs’ backing | openDemocracy
#BlueHydrogen
#FossilFuels
#Hydrogen
#Biolers
#ToryCorruption
Ex-Shell worker Alexander Stafford MP chairs parliamentary pressure group run by industry-funded Connect PA firmhttps://www.opendemocracy.net/en/blue-hydrogen-appg-alexander-stafford-lobbying-shell/
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#Germany and #Norway reach #BlueHydrogen agreement https://p.dw.com/p/4Ll7H?maca=en-Twitter-sharing :Germany's RWE and Norway's Equinor have agreed to supply Germany with #low-emissions #hydrogen #fuel. The long-term plan is to provide 100% cleanly sourced green hydrogen."
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#Germany and #Norway reach #BlueHydrogen agreement https://p.dw.com/p/4Ll7H?maca=en-Twitter-sharing :Germany's RWE and Norway's Equinor have agreed to supply Germany with #low-emissions #hydrogen #fuel. The long-term plan is to provide 100% cleanly sourced green hydrogen."
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Energy prospects blow hot and cold
By Douglas Fraser
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-64116488#scotland #uk #wind #energy #greenhydrogen #hydrogen #bluehydrogen #electricity #fuel #petrol
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Energy prospects blow hot and cold
By Douglas Fraser
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-64116488#scotland #uk #wind #energy #greenhydrogen #hydrogen #bluehydrogen #electricity #fuel #petrol
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Lee, Don't get me wrong #GreenHydrogen definitely has its place in replacing Grey Hydrogen. you are also correct that as CCS has been tried and failed so #BlueHydrogen really doesn't exist. #GreenHydrogen has to be used locally and not transported, are you aware it would take 18 times as many fuel tankers to carry the equivalent amount of fuel as a diesel tanker.