After nearly 19 years in development hell, Ubisoft's Beyond Good & Evil 2 is still showing signs of life. The franchise outlived its launch window and now needs an actual one.
Eurogamer: https://www.eurogamer.net/beyond-good-and-evil-2-signs-of-life-writer
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Mal wieder Zeit für alte Spiele! Dabei steht ja noch einiges aus. Weiter geht es im #letsplay von #BeyondGoodandEvil wo wir ins Schlachthaus schleichen müssen, um die Welt zu retten. Was kann da schon schiefgehen? Ab sofort auf Peertube https://peertube.art3mis.de/w/avjG2ZJ9VzfDFmdMbW6PiE #retro #gaming #action #peertube #fedigaming
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I finished Beyond Good & Evil, and I'm not really sure what the hype surrounding it is. It's probably someone's favorite video game, but I'm not sure how it ended up being considered a cult classic. Nothing about the experience was great. It was passable at best. It wasn't overly difficult, but the pacing felt off. Like, it wasn't sure what it wanted to be, other than some story teller got their idea turned into a video game. It's not bad. It's not good. It's average at best.
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Who, here, has played Beyond Good & Evil? I'm currently playing through it. If you have, I'd like your opinion about the experience in general.
#BeyondGoodAndEvil #AskFedi #FediHelp #Ubisoft #VideoGame #FediPoll #Boost
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“They are no philosophical race”: Nietzsche’s Critique of the Englishman’s Philosophy
Nietzsche had a sharp and often contemptuous view of what he called “English psychology” and the broader tradition of British empiricist and utilitarian moral philosophy. His critique is scattered across several works — Beyond Good and Evil, Twilight of the Idols, On the Genealogy of Morality, and The Gay Science — but forms a coherent attack on a whole intellectual temperament.
1. The Critique of Utilitarianism and the “Herd Morality”
Nietzsche’s most sustained target was Utilitarian ethics — chiefly Bentham and Mill’s reduction of morality to the calculation of pleasure and pain, and the maximization of happiness for the greatest number.
- He found this mediocre and life-denying: it privileges comfort, safety, and the average over excellence, risk, and greatness.
- Utilitarianism, for Nietzsche, is the philosophical expression of the herd — a morality that flattens hierarchy and punishes the exceptional individual.
- “Man does not strive for happiness; only the Englishman does,” he quipped in Twilight of the Idols — meaning that making happiness the supreme value is a parochial, petit-bourgeois illusion.
2. The Attack on British Empiricism and Its Psychologists
In Beyond Good and Evil (Part I) and On the Genealogy of Morality (Preface), Nietzsche attacks English moral psychologists — figures like Spencer, Hume, and their successors — for:
- Lacking historical sense: They projected modern values (utility, sympathy, altruism) backward onto all of human history, as if these had always been the basis of morality.
- Flatness of soul: They could only explain the origin of moral concepts mechanistically — habit, utility, association — and missed the deeper question of the value of values themselves.
- “They are no philosophical race”: Nietzsche says this explicitly in Beyond Good and Evil (§252), charging that the English lack the instinct for genuine philosophy. They are capable of great industry and data-gathering but not of the bold, creative, self-overcoming thought he demands of a philosopher.
3. Darwin and the Problem of “Survival”
Nietzsche had a complicated relationship with Darwin, but largely rejected Social Darwinism and the popular English interpretation of evolution:
- The “survival of the fittest” was vulgarized into a justification for mediocrity — it is the most numerous, the most adaptable, the most average that survive, not the highest.
- Nietzsche argued that nature often sacrifices the species for the sake of the exceptional individual — the reverse of what the Darwinian moralists claimed.
- Evolution, in the English reading, pointed downward toward conformity; Nietzsche wanted to point upward toward the Übermensch.
4. Critique of Sympathy and Altruism (Spencer & the “Comfortable” Ethics)
Herbert Spencer attempted to merge evolution with utilitarian ethics, grounding morality in social cooperation and sympathy. Nietzsche despised this:
- Sympathy (Mitleid) — “feeling with suffering” — was for Nietzsche a form of weakness and even a contagion of suffering, not a virtue.
- Altruism as a supreme value he traced (in the Genealogy) to slave morality — the resentful inversion of aristocratic values by the weak.
- Spencer’s “evolution toward happiness” was, to Nietzsche, a comfortable lie told by a civilization in decline.
5. The Deeper Charge: Mediocrity of Philosophical Spirit
Beyond specific doctrines, Nietzsche’s critique is temperamental and cultural:
“They are not a philosophical race — the English: Bacon represents an attack on the philosophical spirit generally, Hobbes, Hume, and Locke an abasement and a depreciation of the idea of a ‘philosopher’ for more than a century.” — Beyond Good and Evil, §252
The English philosopher, in Nietzsche’s portrait, is:
- Too empirical — chained to facts, unable to think beyond them
- Too Christian in disguise — utilitarian altruism is secularized Christian morality without the honesty of its theological roots
- Too comfortable — philosophizing in service of stability, society, and contentment, rather than danger, solitude, and transformation
Summary Table
TargetNietzsche’s ChargeUtilitarianism (Bentham/Mill)Herd morality; reduces life to comfortEmpiricism (Hume/Locke)Debases philosophy; no historical senseDarwinism (Spencer)Glorifies the average; misreads natureAltruism/SympathySlave morality in disguise; weaknessEnglish “character”Industrious but philosophically shallowA Fair Assessment
Nietzsche’s critique, while brilliant and penetrating, is also polemical and sometimes unfair. Hume, in particular, is a far deeper thinker than Nietzsche credits. And Nietzsche himself borrows more from the British tradition than he admits — his psychological method of unmasking morality owes something to precisely the “English psychologists” he mocks. The critique is best read not as sober scholarship, but as Nietzsche’s philosophical war cry against a particular vision of what life and thought are for.
#Übermensch #BeyondGoodAndEvil #Blog #BritishEmpiricism #ContinentalPhilosophy #CritiqueOfMorality #Ethics #FriedrichNietzsche #GenealogyOfMorality #HerdMorality #HistoryOfPhilosophy #MillAndBentham #Nietzsche #NietzscheVsDarwin #PhilosophicalCritique #Philosophy #SlaveMorality #Utilitarianism #WesternPhilosophy -
Die Woche endet, das #letsplay geht weiter. In der neuen Folge #beyondgoodandevil werfen wir unseren Hut in den Ring, oder besser auf die Rennstrecke. Dabei gewinnen wir ein paar Rennen, aber eigentlich suchen wir nach dem richtigen Abzweig in Richtung Schlachthaus… ab sofort auf #peertube https://peertube.art3mis.de/w/aCEnKePP4TcYbFUcbDFANC #gaming #fedigaming #retro #ubisoft #action #adventure
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Playing #BeyondGoodAndEvil makes me speculate that action-adventures are essentially brew-pots that represent an average of the most popular genres that were being released during their time
BG&E is an average of 3d platforming, stealth and racing, which were popular during the 6th gen
The Last of us was an average of the 7th gen that consisted of third-person shooters, crafting and survival horrors
Either I'm noticing a pattern, or I'm missing the forest for the trees
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Eine neue Woche beginnt und es gibt mehr vom #letsplay #BeyondGoodandEvil In Episode 6 schleichen wir uns weiter durch die Fabrik und wenn das nicht klappt, gibt’s auch auf die Mütze. Ab sofort hier: https://peertube.art3mis.de/w/aiLCzqTu6ZcwytGrSpUDQi #peertube #retro #fedigaming #gaming #adventure
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Weiter geht's in der #retro #letsplay Welt :toot: Jade und Peyj befreien den gefangenen Agenten in der Fabrik und versuchen nun gemeinsam aufzuklären, warum hier so viele Monster, Robotoer und Soldaten hinter ihnen her sind... Die neuen Folge #BeyondGoodAndEvil gibt's ab soforrt auf #peertube https://peertube.art3mis.de/w/nuBJWpVQJYL6gZeLjAdvtZ #retro #adventure #action #fedigaming #ClassicGaming
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Nach etwas längerer Winterpause, starte ich mal vorsichtig die Uploads für Lets Plays wieder mit einer neuen Folge #BeyondGoodAndEvil ! :christmas_parrot: :peertube: Jade und Peyj wollen eigentlich mysteriöse Vorgänge in der Fabrik untersuchen, aber da ist reinkommen gar nicht so leicht… Ab jetzt auf #PeerTube https://peertube.art3mis.de/w/xqSWq3PyyfSXT1GebpfVPX #adventure #action #retro #letsplay #fedigaming
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Aaand here we are. The DomZ base. And the horrid final boss.
The spaceship fight was easy, I only failed that once. With four wrenches on the spaceship’s energy bar.
I will say that not once did the game indicate that I could actually fight the Alpha Section soldiers. I just tried to sneak around them or hit their tanks with the discs without being noticed and then kicking them out. If they noticed me, then I just reloaded and tried again. So as I was watching a walkthrough clip of the section after saving Pey’j, I was surprised to see the player on the video just fought the soldiers!
And absolutely no other enemy fights like the final boss. I got to the second stage and managed to button mash the sequence until it goes above Jade. No clue how to deal with that. And I know that I got past that stage in my first playthrough but that was it.
So… this game remains one that I just can’t finish. That boss fight kicks my butt and it annoys me. -
Good news: Amid Ubisoft's reshuffle and many cancellations, Beyond Good & Evil 2 reportedly survived.
Ubisoft calls it a priority for open‑world games — but after years in dev since 2008, fans still call it vaporware. #BeyondGoodAndEvil
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At this point on #Ubisoft life, I don't see why Beyond Good And Evil 2 would have resisted the purge.
The game has been in development hell for so long it's going to be heavely marketed mediocre game.
Why? Imagine developing a game for 2007 standards to release in, hypothetically, 2027.
Guys, this is Duke Nukem Forever 2.
#Videogames #Gaming #Games #BeyondGoodAndEvil #BeyondGoodAndEvil2 #Adventure #France #Retro
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I think I’ve figured out why I never finished this game in the first place. I had not bought the things from Mammago Garage in order. I skipped the flight stabiliser and went straight for the rocket motor thing. So I never flew around Hillys with the Beluga, never raced the looters in the caves, never took photos of the flying manta rays and things… never bought the pearls from Ming-Tzu, even.
Not to mention never did the Section Alpha HQ sneaky areas. I just finished the star key door one and it had TEN pearls in there!
I need ten more to get the motor to go to the Moon and save Pey’j.
I’m hopeful that I might be able to finish the game now. Might.
I still haven’t encountered a boss with a fight pattern where I’d have to memorise several move sequences. -
The recent announcement of the cancellation for the Prince of Persia today made me think back about #BeyondGoodAndEvil and how at this point it would be better for Micheal Ancel to just make a comic illustrating the story that the sequel would have followed, to give closure to the fans of the game, I don't think this universe is going to be explored anymore, even if BGAE2 turns out to be a masterpiece
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Ah, okay, I do remember this bit.
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I got to the slaughterhouse.
I still have no recollection of playing this area that first time around.
What the heck did I do then?!
I usually have a pretty good memory with games that I have enjoyed playing at least that one time. Did I really get that mad at that final boss that I forgot the rest of the game? -
Oh wow. It really has been a long time since the last time I played #BeyondGoodAndEvil because I honestly can’t remember the first big mission to the factory. I thought that and meeting the IRIS group was a lot later.
I also forgot that you take pictures of animals for credits and can use the camera view to fight with disks.
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It’s been a considerable number of years since the last time I played this, so I have no recollection of this part.
Pey’j invented boost-boots, which… are powered by his gastro-intestinal gas 🤣 so, fart boots!
It’ll take some time to get used to the controls again, even in this 20th anniversary remaster.
I never finished the first run, because the final boss was too difficult. Its fight pattern was nothing like the other enemies in the game. -
There are varying right and wrong ways in society - but all people can find peace and a better life. No matter how much people may be stuck in their sad emotions, they can be uplifted. 😀😌
#thought #ThoughtForTheDay #life #ThoughtForToday #Spirituality #SpiritualTruth #life #moral
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Ubisoft’s Beyond Good & Evil 2 may still be alive!
A new job listing for a Technical Sound Designer tied to the project hints ongoing work nearly a decade after its 2017 reveal.
Space adventure fans, hope isn’t lost yet. #BeyondGoodAndEvil #Ubisoft
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2025/11/beyond-good-and-evil-2-ps5-may-not-be-dead-just-yet
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Si a día de hoy saliera #BeyondGoodAndEvil los incels estarían llorando por lo woke que es. Una protagonista femenina, empoderada, independiente y sin sexualizar y de rasgos egipcios (su rostro está inspirado en Nefertiti). Y en una historia que hace una crítica descarada al fascismo.
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Han pasado 20 años y #BeyondGoodAndEvil sigue siendo uno de mis #videojuegos favoritos.
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Spionage und Air Hockey gibt es in Episode 3 vom #letsplay von #BeyondGoodAndEvil in der Jubiläumsedition. Wir konspirieren mit dem mysteriösen IRIS Netzwerk, um die Bürger über ihre fragwürdigen Machthaber aufzuklären und zocken nebenbei noch um ein paar Perlen. 🪩 #peertube #fedigaming #adventure #retro #gaming #puzzle https://peertube.art3mis.de/w/isjn8FakDuPhV2LjtRJBxr
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Weiter geht’s mit Jade und Peyj! Wir erkunden die schwarze Insel im zweiten Teil im #letsplay von #BeyondGoodAndEvil , ab sofort auf #peertube https://peertube.art3mis.de/w/tcXcfXGJjx1GVb89iQjpzT #adventure #action #retro #3d #fedigaming
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Neues #letsplay ! Wir starten mit dem 3D-Action-Adventure #BeyondGoodAndEvil , wo wir mit Jade und Pey’j einer Verschwörung auf die Schliche kommen müssen. Aber erstmal brauchen wir Geld für Strom und den Schutzschild und auch unser Hovercraft hat schon bessere Zeiten gesehen... Also zücken wir die Kamera und erkunden die Umgebung… Ab sofort auf #peertube https://peertube.art3mis.de/w/w84L3Qx9FECVegeAG1TUhM #retro #gaming #fedigaming #stealth #action #shooter
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Nouveau billet blog sur "Beyond Good and Evil" :
#blog #jeuvideo #BeyondGoodandEvil
https://gouxmathieu.over-blog.fr/2025/06/beyond-good-and-evil-2003-ubisoft.html
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La deuxième partie de mon interview de Jacques Exertier est parue ! On y parle de Beyond Good & Evil, Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown et même Tintin !
#ubisoft #gaming #game #beyondgoodandevil #princeofpersia #jeuvideo
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Zurück auf den Mond! Ich spiele gleich eine spontane und womöglich letzte Runde #BeyondGoodAndEvil im Stream. Live unter https://twitch.tv/yodahome 🎮👾😉
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J’ai eu l’honneur d’interviewer Yoan Fanise, ex employé d’Ubisoft ayant travaillé sur Beyond Good & Evil etc… et désormais formé son propre studio DigixArt à qui on doit Road 96 et prochainement Tides of Tomorrow !
N’hésitez pas à partager, ça aide à fond ! #jeuvideo #gaming #Road96 #interview #beyondgoodandevil #videogame
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Hier gehts gleich ums Ganze: Nach langer Zeit setzen wir #beyondgoodandevil spontan im Stream fort. 🎮 https://twitch.tv/yodahome #streaming #fedigaming #retrogaming
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CW: Videospiel
Spannend.
Ich soll, weil ich komplett pleite bin, für eine Forschungseinrichtung alle Tiere des Planeten fotografieren und die Fotos gegen Credits hochladen.
„Homo sapiens“ fällt auch darunter und bringt gutes Geld ein. 🤪
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À propos Beyond Good and Evil, je l’ai joué en Français et je ne comprends pas tous les blagues dedans.
E.g.
• Akuda Bar, Paradise Lounge, Bar Ezille (exile bar?)
• Yvan Touze
• Jade Thyrus (Jade d'IRIS?)
• SPOON?
• plus je suis sûr qu j’ai completement raté plusieursPeut qqn m’explique?
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People (rightly) criticise its simple combat. But for a 20 year old 3D title, it’s not as bad as it could be. And after recently finishing Platinum’s Wonderful 101, I’m glad to play something simpler.
The game had a great vision and it mostly delivered.
I hope Beyond Good and Evil 2 comes out and lives up to its hype (and Ubisoft doesn’t mess it up). The series does deserve finally a continuation.
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Every now and again a game pops up that was just the right game at the right time for its player.
For me, this is what happened with Beyond Good and Evil (20th anniversary). I picked it up and just booted to see how it is, since I remember already back in the day it had a cult following.
What followed was me playing it from start to 100% completion in the last few days. And I enjoyed it immensely :)
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Finished the 20th anniversary remaster of #BeyondGoodAndEvil, what a special game! Had to draw some #FanArt of Jade and Pey’j
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For this #ThrowbackThursday, we’ve got the original #BeyondGoodAndEvil game, released 21 years ago in 2003. It’s supposed to be getting a sequel at some point, but given it’s been in development for more than 14 years, Lord knows when that will happen.
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I'm in full video production at the moment, I'm hoping of releasing it before the end of the month, I'm capturing the last footage I need, then I will move to voice acting, if there is one thing I need like air, is shitposting material, after everything is set and done I will start playing a lot of games with such potential, I'm thinking Army Men RTS maybe
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the classic game #BeyondGoodAndEvil got remastered as a 20th anniv release earlier this year! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaU4tMuvvdc #videogames
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Geschafft. Alle Menschen bzw. Schraubenden Schweine oder Shufflepuck spielenden Haie können wieder beruhigt schlafen
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Ich glaub ich werd heute Abend Jade mal wieder nen Besuch abstatten.
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FINALLY rolled credits on 'Beyond Good & Evil' after twenty years and probably the fifth or sixth rerelease of the game I've bought, rivaling perhaps only 'Another World/Out of This World' for 'times rebought' for me. Great game with music and characters which have lived rent-free in my head for decades, but definitely dated in some regards (and not just the broad if well-intended cultural stereotypes) 1/
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Llevo días subiendo a mi canal de Youtube, #beyondgoodandevil 20 Aniversary.
Los gameplays son sin comentar, y grabados con la herramienta de grabar partidas de Steam.
En unas horas subiré otro, pero podéis echar un vistacini a los que ya están subidos❤️https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5LdQaSSCb8&list=PLCfrswaV5txjpRrhoAibq6mrtWuqvIzFC -
That whole trope of: "Imagine if you could replay X game again for the first time" actually applies to Beyond Good & Evil for me. I haven't played it in almost 20 years and I have completely forgotten everything.
All I know is that I absolutely loved it to death, and I remember the feeling of it being an astonishingly good game.
Sigh. I'm gonna rebuy a game I already own, aren't I...
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/beyond-good-evil-20th-anniversary-edition/9nwppbg5srch
