#balaji — Public Fediverse posts
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⬆️ @vij
>> Stay tuned for my announcement of the senators from MV
Why stop at your own state when you can have your own country? [\s]
#Balaji is looking for candidates like MV to join his #NetworkSchool in #Malayasia where they can learn how to start their own countries in a #NetworkState
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WOW!
"Consider what's happening here. A guest on Malaysian soil, under government investigation, is publicly threatening … capital flight unless he is granted an audience…. This is the #NetworkState ideology performed in real time…
#Balaji has literally called his plan 'tech #Zionism.' The goal of the #NetworkSchool is to teach people to go around the world trying to start their OWN countries. This is 21st century #colonialism on steroids, backed by #billionaires"
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When you read the source material of the #accelerationist belief system directly, it really throws into stark relief the current-day reverence for #AI, and how 'the fascists' of the 2020s (#neoreactionaries in the #Vance / #Thiel / #Musk / #Zuckerberg / #Balaji camp) fantasize about encoding their white supremacist patriarchal capitalist values into their God.
I recommend reading "#Axsys" as originally defined by #NickLand & the #CCRU
https://ccru.fandom.com/wiki/AxsysAt a #DWeb grassroots level, in hindsight it really makes a lot of sense to me that so many of the core #HOLO team and #Holochain community were involved with #NooSphere.
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When you read the source material of the #accelerationist belief system directly, it really throws into stark relief the current-day reverence for #AI, and how 'the fascists' of the 2020s (#neoreactionaries in the #Vance / #Thiel / #Musk / #Zuckerberg / #Balaji camp) fantasize about encoding their white supremacist patriarchal capitalist values into their God.
I recommend reading "#Axsys" as originally defined by #NickLand & the #CCRU
https://ccru.fandom.com/wiki/AxsysAt a #DWeb grassroots level, in hindsight it really makes a lot of sense to me that so many of the core #HOLO team and #Holochain community were involved with #NooSphere.
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The “California Billionaire Tax Act”,
often referred to simply as the #billionaire #tax,
is a proposalthat would require any California resident worth more than $1bn to pay a
one-off, 5% tax on their assets to help cover education, food assistance and healthcare programs in the state.It’s sponsored by the Service Employees International Union-United Healthcare Workers West,
and if it receives enough signatures from California voters, it will go to the ballot in November.When the proposal was put forward at the end of last year,
many among tech’s billionaire elite threw a #tantrum.Some opened offices or bought mansions in Florida or Texas,
vowing to leave California for good.
The fleeing rich included Palantir co-founder Peter #Thiel,
whose current net worth is $25bn;
Google co-founders Larry #Page and Sergey #Brin,
worth around $255bn and $240bn respectively;
and Donald Trump’s AI and crypto czar, David #Sacks,
whose net worth is not publicly known.Earlier this week, the Wall Street Journal reported that Meta CEO
Mark #Zuckerberg,
worth $229bn, has also bought a property in south Florida valued between $150 and $200m.Thiel has additionally led the charge in donating to a lobbying group, the "California Business Roundtable",
which has pledged to fight the wealth tax.The Palantir co-founder handed over $3m to the political action committee in late December.
Other major donors include realtors, entrepreneurs and private equity firms.
James #Siminoff, who founded the camera-embedded Ring doorbell company, also donated $100,000, according to public records.“The most powerful money in politics is to be on the no-side of a ballot measure,” said #McCuan.
“You can even pre-empt something getting to the ballot, like a billionaire’s tax,
by explaining to everyone out there that this is a bad idea for economic growth.”Tech investors and venture capitalists have been extremely vocal in their opposition to the tax,
saying that the state will lose revenue as billionaires flee and it will hurt the state’s ability to be economically competitive.Just this week, Chamath #Palihapitiya, a former Facebook executive and current venture capital investor, wrote
“the loss of this tax revenue was totally avoidable but is now forever”.
#Balaji #Srinivasan, an investor and former chief technology officer of Coinbase, wrote,
“the most successful tech founders of all time have now exited the failed state of California”.Adding on, Paul #Graham, the co-founder of seed capital firm Y Combinator, wrote:
“It’s important that people like Zuck and Larry Page are willing to move in response to the proposed wealth tax.
It shows politicians what will happen if they try things like this.”Joining the billionaires, #Newsom has pledged to fight the tax, saying it will “drive a race to the bottom” and stifle innovation as the ultra-wealthy leave.
“This will be defeated – there’s no question in my mind,” Newsom told the New York Times in January.
“I’ll do what I have to do to protect the state.”
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/15/california-billionaires-state-elections -
The “California Billionaire Tax Act”,
often referred to simply as the #billionaire #tax,
is a proposalthat would require any California resident worth more than $1bn to pay a
one-off, 5% tax on their assets to help cover education, food assistance and healthcare programs in the state.It’s sponsored by the Service Employees International Union-United Healthcare Workers West,
and if it receives enough signatures from California voters, it will go to the ballot in November.When the proposal was put forward at the end of last year,
many among tech’s billionaire elite threw a #tantrum.Some opened offices or bought mansions in Florida or Texas,
vowing to leave California for good.
The fleeing rich included Palantir co-founder Peter #Thiel,
whose current net worth is $25bn;
Google co-founders Larry #Page and Sergey #Brin,
worth around $255bn and $240bn respectively;
and Donald Trump’s AI and crypto czar, David #Sacks,
whose net worth is not publicly known.Earlier this week, the Wall Street Journal reported that Meta CEO
Mark #Zuckerberg,
worth $229bn, has also bought a property in south Florida valued between $150 and $200m.Thiel has additionally led the charge in donating to a lobbying group, the "California Business Roundtable",
which has pledged to fight the wealth tax.The Palantir co-founder handed over $3m to the political action committee in late December.
Other major donors include realtors, entrepreneurs and private equity firms.
James #Siminoff, who founded the camera-embedded Ring doorbell company, also donated $100,000, according to public records.“The most powerful money in politics is to be on the no-side of a ballot measure,” said #McCuan.
“You can even pre-empt something getting to the ballot, like a billionaire’s tax,
by explaining to everyone out there that this is a bad idea for economic growth.”Tech investors and venture capitalists have been extremely vocal in their opposition to the tax,
saying that the state will lose revenue as billionaires flee and it will hurt the state’s ability to be economically competitive.Just this week, Chamath #Palihapitiya, a former Facebook executive and current venture capital investor, wrote
“the loss of this tax revenue was totally avoidable but is now forever”.
#Balaji #Srinivasan, an investor and former chief technology officer of Coinbase, wrote,
“the most successful tech founders of all time have now exited the failed state of California”.Adding on, Paul #Graham, the co-founder of seed capital firm Y Combinator, wrote:
“It’s important that people like Zuck and Larry Page are willing to move in response to the proposed wealth tax.
It shows politicians what will happen if they try things like this.”Joining the billionaires, #Newsom has pledged to fight the tax, saying it will “drive a race to the bottom” and stifle innovation as the ultra-wealthy leave.
“This will be defeated – there’s no question in my mind,” Newsom told the New York Times in January.
“I’ll do what I have to do to protect the state.”
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/15/california-billionaires-state-elections -
in case anyone out there still doesn't believe that the #broligarchs are planning to destroy the global economy and the US dollar denominated financial system so they can rule over the ashes with their crypto here's the Nerd Reich's favourite thought leader and literal author of "The Network State" #Balaji literally laying out the exact steps.
https://x.com/balajis/status/1961529239993536687
#broligarch #crypto #bitcoin #networkstate #nerdReich #coinbase #TheNerdReich #cryptocurrency #finance #economics #uspol #uspolitics #VCs #siliconValley
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in case anyone out there still doesn't believe that the #broligarchs are planning to destroy the global economy and the US dollar denominated financial system so they can rule over the ashes with their crypto here's the Nerd Reich's favourite thought leader and literal author of "The Network State" #Balaji literally laying out the exact steps.
https://x.com/balajis/status/1961529239993536687
#broligarch #crypto #bitcoin #networkstate #nerdReich #coinbase #TheNerdReich #cryptocurrency #finance #economics #uspol #uspolitics #VCs #siliconValley
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i guess "god's wrath will throw fire upon the sodomites" is what passes for a #libertarian take in 2025, because this is one of the main guys trying to build the #NetworkState.
(he's the CEO of #Praxis, "the world's first digital nation" that's funded by a lot of the crypto bros including Peter Thiel, #Balaji, Joe Lonsdale, the #Winklevoss twins, #Paradigm (big crypto fund), a #Worldcoin guy, and a bunch of others). cc: @gilduran.com @gilduran
* the tweet: https://x.com/drydenwtbrown/status/1939412375871836384
* more on Dryden Brown: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/praxis-society-city-dryden-brown-peter-thiel/#pride #lgbt #Thiel #Pronomos #PeterThiel #crypto #cryptocurrency #NetworkState #broligarchy #Broligarchs #JoeLonsdale #TheNetworkState #gay #christianNationalism #DrydenBrown #a16z #nerdreich #thenerdreich
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i guess "god's wrath will throw fire upon the sodomites" is what passes for a #libertarian take in 2025, because this is one of the main guys trying to build the #NetworkState.
(he's the CEO of #Praxis, "the world's first digital nation" that's funded by a lot of the crypto bros including Peter Thiel, #Balaji, Joe Lonsdale, the #Winklevoss twins, #Paradigm (big crypto fund), a #Worldcoin guy, and a bunch of others). cc: @gilduran.com @gilduran
* the tweet: https://x.com/drydenwtbrown/status/1939412375871836384
* more on Dryden Brown: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/praxis-society-city-dryden-brown-peter-thiel/#pride #lgbt #Thiel #Pronomos #PeterThiel #crypto #cryptocurrency #NetworkState #broligarchy #Broligarchs #JoeLonsdale #TheNetworkState #gay #christianNationalism #DrydenBrown #a16z #nerdreich #thenerdreich
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@wendysiegelman the network state is actually just a med spa
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@wendysiegelman the network state is actually just a med spa
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apparently the #NetworkState creeps have a flag now
looks like a pirate flag to me, which is appropriate
#broligarchy #broligarchs #Balaji #uspol #uspolitics #pirates
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apparently the #NetworkState creeps have a flag now
looks like a pirate flag to me, which is appropriate
#broligarchy #broligarchs #Balaji #uspol #uspolitics #pirates
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brutal but entirely accurate review of Balaji's¹ book "The Network State" that is regarded as something of a blueprint for a future government by the #broligarchs currently running the country.
¹ Balaji is a crypto con artist who has also been a partner at Marc Andreessen's #a16z as well as CTO of #Coinbase.
https://davekarpf.substack.com/p/the-tech-barons-have-a-blueprint
#NerdReich #NetworkState #Coinbase #MarcAndreessen #a16z #DOGE #elonmusk #uspol #fascism #techfascism #davekarpf #Balaji
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brutal but entirely accurate review of Balaji's¹ book "The Network State" that is regarded as something of a blueprint for a future government by the #broligarchs currently running the country.
¹ Balaji is a crypto con artist who has also been a partner at Marc Andreessen's #a16z as well as CTO of #Coinbase.
https://davekarpf.substack.com/p/the-tech-barons-have-a-blueprint
#NerdReich #NetworkState #Coinbase #MarcAndreessen #a16z #DOGE #elonmusk #uspol #fascism #techfascism #davekarpf #Balaji
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La proprietà aperta e i suoi nemici: suicidi eccellenti nella Silicon Valley
https://rizomatica.noblogs.org/2025/02/rattus-proprieta-aperta-nemici-suicidi-silicon-valley/
Di Rattus Norvegicus
Pubblicato in origine nella ML Neurogreen il 15-1-2025
Considero il recente (presunto) suicidio del programmatore indiano ventiseienn#Rassegna #Rizoma #balaji #chatgpt #comune #copyright #intellettuale #murdock #openAI #propriet #repressione #software #SoftwareLibero #suicidio #swartz #USA
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Tech billionaire
#Marc #Andreessen is reportedly getting involved with #DOGE.He’s also invested in the “network state” movement led by #Balaji #Srinivasan, which aims 2 build crypto-based countries within existing states
via the creation of
“parallel institutions” like X.Listen. 1/
https://bsky.app/profile/jennycohn.bsky.social/post/3lc4wwzofo22v -
Tech billionaire
#Marc #Andreessen is reportedly getting involved with #DOGE.He’s also invested in the “network state” movement led by #Balaji #Srinivasan, which aims 2 build crypto-based countries within existing states
via the creation of
“parallel institutions” like X.Listen. 1/
https://bsky.app/profile/jennycohn.bsky.social/post/3lc4wwzofo22v -
Trump wants to buy #Greenland so his Nerd Reich buddies can launch one of their "Network State" #libertarian utopia / hellhole #cryptocurrency cities on it.
"The Network State" is a nonsense idea from #Balaji, #PeterThiel, #MarcAndreessen, and a bunch of other #crypto creeps of a series of offshore cities where there are no poor people (other than the servants) and no pesky laws (especially laws against things like #moneylaundering).
see also: #Prospera in #Honduras and a few others that already are out there and are definitely not deeply resented by the native populations and/or trying to bankrupt the countries they're located in.
full thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1877052010559844478.html
#NerdReich #USPol #Greenland #NetworkState #TheNetworkState #Uspolitics #Trump #DonaldTrump #JDVance #uspol #uspolitics #politics #GOP #MAGA #MAGAts #Republicans #crypto
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Trump wants to buy #Greenland so his Nerd Reich buddies can launch one of their "Network State" #libertarian utopia / hellhole #cryptocurrency cities on it.
"The Network State" is a nonsense idea from #Balaji, #PeterThiel, #MarcAndreessen, and a bunch of other #crypto creeps of a series of offshore cities where there are no poor people (other than the servants) and no pesky laws (especially laws against things like #moneylaundering).
see also: #Prospera in #Honduras and a few others that already are out there and are definitely not deeply resented by the native populations and/or trying to bankrupt the countries they're located in.
full thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1877052010559844478.html
#NerdReich #USPol #Greenland #NetworkState #TheNetworkState #Uspolitics #Trump #DonaldTrump #JDVance #uspol #uspolitics #politics #GOP #MAGA #MAGAts #Republicans #crypto
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📊 Die Top 4 Beiträge der letzten Woche mit den meisten Boosts sind:
1. Petition #Deutschlandticket
https://mastodon.online/@tinoeberl/1136233417633956102. #Einkommensrückgang in der #Landwirtschaft
https://mastodon.online/@tinoeberl/1136416039454675063. #Petition zur Überarbeitung des #Verkehrswegeplans
https://mastodon.online/@tinoeberl/1136404969288892644. #OpenAI #Whistleblower Suchir #Balaji tot aufgefunden.
https://mastodon.online/@tinoeberl/113655578485834907 -
📊 Die Top 4 Beiträge der letzten Woche mit den meisten Boosts sind:
1. Petition #Deutschlandticket
https://mastodon.online/@tinoeberl/1136233417633956102. #Einkommensrückgang in der #Landwirtschaft
https://mastodon.online/@tinoeberl/1136416039454675063. #Petition zur Überarbeitung des #Verkehrswegeplans
https://mastodon.online/@tinoeberl/1136404969288892644. #OpenAI #Whistleblower Suchir #Balaji tot aufgefunden.
https://mastodon.online/@tinoeberl/113655578485834907 -
→ Former OpenAI Researcher Says the Company Broke Copyright Law
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/technology/openai-copyright-law.html“Suchir Balaji spent nearly four years as an artificial intelligence researcher at OpenAI. [A]fter the release of ChatGPT in late 2022, he thought harder about what the company was doing. He came to the conclusion that OpenAI’s use of copyrighted data violated the law and that technologies like ChatGPT were damaging the internet.”
#Balaji #researcher #OpenAI #ChatGPT #copyrighted #data #law #internet
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→ Former OpenAI Researcher Says the Company Broke Copyright Law
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/technology/openai-copyright-law.html“Suchir Balaji spent nearly four years as an artificial intelligence researcher at OpenAI. [A]fter the release of ChatGPT in late 2022, he thought harder about what the company was doing. He came to the conclusion that OpenAI’s use of copyrighted data violated the law and that technologies like ChatGPT were damaging the internet.”
#Balaji #researcher #OpenAI #ChatGPT #copyrighted #data #law #internet
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#BBCNews - #OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0el3r2nlko
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#BBCNews - #OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0el3r2nlko
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https://www.thenerdreich.com/balaji-srinivasans-gray-vision-for-san-francisco/
Cool - Gray City of #TechAuthorittarians: #Balaji's dark vision for #SanFrancisco
by #GilDuran 3 April 2024
#NetworkState #California #authoritarianism #Tech #farright #sfba
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https://www.thenerdreich.com/balaji-srinivasans-gray-vision-for-san-francisco/
Cool - Gray City of #TechAuthorittarians: #Balaji's dark vision for #SanFrancisco
by #GilDuran 3 April 2024
#NetworkState #California #authoritarianism #Tech #farright #sfba
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https://www.repubblica.it/tecnologia/2024/12/14/news/openai_ricercatore_morto_whistleblower_copyright-423886958
Recentemente #Balaji, ex ricercatore di #OpenAI, aveva raccontato al New York Times di avere dubbi sulla legittimità dell’utilizzo di dati protetti da copyright da parte della società guidata da #SamAltman
Suicide de l'un des lanceurs d'alerte et codeur de l'#IA
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Der ehemalige #OpenAI-Mitarbeiter und #Whistleblower Suchir #Balaji wurde in seiner Wohnung in San Francisco tot aufgefunden.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/12/13/openai-whistleblower-found-dead-in-san-francisco-apartment/
Der 26-Jährige hatte das Unternehmen öffentlich beschuldigt, urheberrechtlich geschützte Daten illegal für die Entwicklung von #ChatGPT genutzt zu haben.
Sein Tod, der als #Suizid eingestuft wurde, wirft Fragen auf, da Balaji als Schlüsselfigur in laufenden Klagen gegen OpenAI galt.
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Der ehemalige #OpenAI-Mitarbeiter und #Whistleblower Suchir #Balaji wurde in seiner Wohnung in San Francisco tot aufgefunden.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/12/13/openai-whistleblower-found-dead-in-san-francisco-apartment/
Der 26-Jährige hatte das Unternehmen öffentlich beschuldigt, urheberrechtlich geschützte Daten illegal für die Entwicklung von #ChatGPT genutzt zu haben.
Sein Tod, der als #Suizid eingestuft wurde, wirft Fragen auf, da Balaji als Schlüsselfigur in laufenden Klagen gegen OpenAI galt.
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A former #OpenAI employee, #Suchir #Balaji, was recently found dead in his San Francisco apartment, according to the San Francisco Office of the Chief Medical Examiner.
In October, the 26-year-old AI researcher raised concerns about OpenAI breaking copyright law when he was interviewed by The New York Times.
“The Office of the Chief Medical Examiner (OCME) has identified the decedent as Suchir Balaji, 26, of San Francisco.
The manner of death has been determined to be suicide,”
said a spokesperson in a statement to TechCrunch.“The OCME has notified the next-of-kin and has no further comment or reports for publication at this time.”
After nearly four years working at OpenAI,
Balaji quit the company when he realized the technology would bring more harm than good to society,
he told The New York Times.Balaji’s main concern was the way OpenAI allegedly used copyright data,
and he believed its practices were damaging to the internet.“We are devastated to learn of this incredibly sad news today and our hearts go out to Suchir’s loved ones during this difficult time,” said an OpenAI spokesperson in an email to TechCrunch.
Balaji was found dead in his Buchanan Street apartment on November 26, a spokesperson for the San Francisco Police Department tells TechCrunch.
Officers and medics were called to his residence in the city’s Lower Haight district to perform a wellness check on the former OpenAI researcher.
No evidence of foul play was found during the initial investigation, according to police.
“I was at OpenAI for nearly 4 years and worked on ChatGPT for the last 1.5 of them,” said Balaji in a tweet from October.
“I initially didn’t know much about copyright, fair use, etc.
but became curious after seeing all the lawsuits filed against GenAI companies.When I tried to understand the issue better, I eventually came to the conclusion that fair use seems like a pretty implausible defense for a lot of generative AI products,
for the basic reason that they can create substitutes that compete with the data they’re trained on.”https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/13/openai-whistleblower-found-dead-in-san-francisco-apartment/
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A former #OpenAI employee, #Suchir #Balaji, was recently found dead in his San Francisco apartment, according to the San Francisco Office of the Chief Medical Examiner.
In October, the 26-year-old AI researcher raised concerns about OpenAI breaking copyright law when he was interviewed by The New York Times.
“The Office of the Chief Medical Examiner (OCME) has identified the decedent as Suchir Balaji, 26, of San Francisco.
The manner of death has been determined to be suicide,”
said a spokesperson in a statement to TechCrunch.“The OCME has notified the next-of-kin and has no further comment or reports for publication at this time.”
After nearly four years working at OpenAI,
Balaji quit the company when he realized the technology would bring more harm than good to society,
he told The New York Times.Balaji’s main concern was the way OpenAI allegedly used copyright data,
and he believed its practices were damaging to the internet.“We are devastated to learn of this incredibly sad news today and our hearts go out to Suchir’s loved ones during this difficult time,” said an OpenAI spokesperson in an email to TechCrunch.
Balaji was found dead in his Buchanan Street apartment on November 26, a spokesperson for the San Francisco Police Department tells TechCrunch.
Officers and medics were called to his residence in the city’s Lower Haight district to perform a wellness check on the former OpenAI researcher.
No evidence of foul play was found during the initial investigation, according to police.
“I was at OpenAI for nearly 4 years and worked on ChatGPT for the last 1.5 of them,” said Balaji in a tweet from October.
“I initially didn’t know much about copyright, fair use, etc.
but became curious after seeing all the lawsuits filed against GenAI companies.When I tried to understand the issue better, I eventually came to the conclusion that fair use seems like a pretty implausible defense for a lot of generative AI products,
for the basic reason that they can create substitutes that compete with the data they’re trained on.”https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/13/openai-whistleblower-found-dead-in-san-francisco-apartment/
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Imagine you could choose your citizenship the same way you choose your gym membership.
That’s a vision of the not-too-distant future put forward by #Balaji #Srinivasan.
Balaji – who is mostly just known by his first name – is a rockstar to the #cryptobros.
A serial tech entrepreneur and venture capitalist who believes that pretty much everything governments currently do,
tech can do better.I watched Balaji outline his idea last autumn, at a vast conference hall on the outskirts of Amsterdam.
“We start new companies like Google;
we start new communities like Facebook;
we start new currencies like Bitcoin and Ethereum;
❓can we start new countries?” ❓
he asked,
as he ambled on stage,
dressed in a slightly baggy grey suit and loose tie.He looked like a middle manager in a corporate accounts department.
But Balaji is a former partner at the giant Silicon Valley venture capital firm #Andreessen #Horowitz.
He has backers with deep pockets.
“Imagine a thousand different startups, each of them replacing a different legacy institution,” Balaji told the audience.
“They exist alongside the establishment in parallel,
they’re pulling away users,
they’re gaining strength,
until they become the new thing.”If startups could replace all these different institutions, Balaji reasoned,
they could replace countries too.He calls his idea the “#network #state”: startup nations.
Here’s how it would work:
communities form
– on the internet initially
– around a set of shared interests or values.Then they acquire land,
becoming physical “countries” with their own laws.These would exist alongside existing nation states, and eventually, replace them altogether.
You would choose your nationality like you choose your broadband provider.
The network state movement doesn’t just want pliant existing governments so that companies can run their own affairs.
It wants to replace governments with companies.
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Imagine you could choose your citizenship the same way you choose your gym membership.
That’s a vision of the not-too-distant future put forward by #Balaji #Srinivasan.
Balaji – who is mostly just known by his first name – is a rockstar to the #cryptobros.
A serial tech entrepreneur and venture capitalist who believes that pretty much everything governments currently do,
tech can do better.I watched Balaji outline his idea last autumn, at a vast conference hall on the outskirts of Amsterdam.
“We start new companies like Google;
we start new communities like Facebook;
we start new currencies like Bitcoin and Ethereum;
❓can we start new countries?” ❓
he asked,
as he ambled on stage,
dressed in a slightly baggy grey suit and loose tie.He looked like a middle manager in a corporate accounts department.
But Balaji is a former partner at the giant Silicon Valley venture capital firm #Andreessen #Horowitz.
He has backers with deep pockets.
“Imagine a thousand different startups, each of them replacing a different legacy institution,” Balaji told the audience.
“They exist alongside the establishment in parallel,
they’re pulling away users,
they’re gaining strength,
until they become the new thing.”If startups could replace all these different institutions, Balaji reasoned,
they could replace countries too.He calls his idea the “#network #state”: startup nations.
Here’s how it would work:
communities form
– on the internet initially
– around a set of shared interests or values.Then they acquire land,
becoming physical “countries” with their own laws.These would exist alongside existing nation states, and eventually, replace them altogether.
You would choose your nationality like you choose your broadband provider.
The network state movement doesn’t just want pliant existing governments so that companies can run their own affairs.
It wants to replace governments with companies.
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The next morning,
wrecked,
I put on sweatpants and a hoodie
and tried to smuggle myself out of the hotel without having to talk to anyone.I gave my chit to the valet and looked around to find Vance and Yarvin standing there waiting for cars.
“How do you guys feel?” Yarvin asked.
Vance was wearing a hoodie too and looked like I felt.
“I feel horrible,” he said.
“Not good.”Yarvin asked what I’d thought of everything.
I said it would take a long time for me to figure that out.
We all shook hands,
and they waved as I got into my car and we all resumed our usual battle stations in the American info-wars.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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The next morning,
wrecked,
I put on sweatpants and a hoodie
and tried to smuggle myself out of the hotel without having to talk to anyone.I gave my chit to the valet and looked around to find Vance and Yarvin standing there waiting for cars.
“How do you guys feel?” Yarvin asked.
Vance was wearing a hoodie too and looked like I felt.
“I feel horrible,” he said.
“Not good.”Yarvin asked what I’d thought of everything.
I said it would take a long time for me to figure that out.
We all shook hands,
and they waved as I got into my car and we all resumed our usual battle stations in the American info-wars.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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“We are in a late republican period,”
Vance said later,
evoking the common New Right view of America as Rome awaiting its Caesar.“If we’re going to push back against it, we’re going to have to get pretty wild,
and pretty far out there,
and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with.”“Indeed,” Murphy said. “Among some of my circle, the phrase ‘extra-constitutional’ has come up quite a bit.”
I’d asked Vance to tell me, on the record, what he’d like liberal Americans who thought that what he was proposing was a fascist takeover of America to understand.
He spoke earnestly. “I think the cultural world you operate in is incredibly biased,” he said
—against his movement and “the leaders of it,
like me in particular.”He encouraged me to resist this tendency, which he thought was the product of a media machine leading us toward a soulless dystopia that none of us want to live in.
“That impulse,” he said,
“is fundamentally in service of something that is far worse than anything,
in your wildest nightmares,
than what you see here.”He gave me an imploring look,
as though to suggest that he was more on the side of the kind of people who read Vanity Fair than most of you realize.If what he was doing worked, he said,
“it will mean that my son grows up in a world where his masculinity
—his support of his family and his community,
his love of his community
—is more important than whether it works for fucking McKinsey.”At that, we called it,
and the crowd of young men who wanted to talk to him immediately descended on the couches.People kept bringing drinks, and there was a lot of shit talk, and it went on late.
I remember thinking at one point how strange it was that in our mid-30s
Vance and I were significantly older than almost everyone there,
all of whom thought they were organizing a struggle to change the course of human history,
and all of whom were now going to get sloppy drunk.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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“We are in a late republican period,”
Vance said later,
evoking the common New Right view of America as Rome awaiting its Caesar.“If we’re going to push back against it, we’re going to have to get pretty wild,
and pretty far out there,
and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with.”“Indeed,” Murphy said. “Among some of my circle, the phrase ‘extra-constitutional’ has come up quite a bit.”
I’d asked Vance to tell me, on the record, what he’d like liberal Americans who thought that what he was proposing was a fascist takeover of America to understand.
He spoke earnestly. “I think the cultural world you operate in is incredibly biased,” he said
—against his movement and “the leaders of it,
like me in particular.”He encouraged me to resist this tendency, which he thought was the product of a media machine leading us toward a soulless dystopia that none of us want to live in.
“That impulse,” he said,
“is fundamentally in service of something that is far worse than anything,
in your wildest nightmares,
than what you see here.”He gave me an imploring look,
as though to suggest that he was more on the side of the kind of people who read Vanity Fair than most of you realize.If what he was doing worked, he said,
“it will mean that my son grows up in a world where his masculinity
—his support of his family and his community,
his love of his community
—is more important than whether it works for fucking McKinsey.”At that, we called it,
and the crowd of young men who wanted to talk to him immediately descended on the couches.People kept bringing drinks, and there was a lot of shit talk, and it went on late.
I remember thinking at one point how strange it was that in our mid-30s
Vance and I were significantly older than almost everyone there,
all of whom thought they were organizing a struggle to change the course of human history,
and all of whom were now going to get sloppy drunk.#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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Yarvin and Laurenson bounded out of the crowd as the cheers were still ringing.
They were giggling, seeming to have had some wine.
“Nixon—Nixon!”Laurenson said,
still laughing.I couldn’t tell if she was delighted or horrified.
A couple of hours later I found Vance standing up by the bar,
surrounded by a circle of young and identical-looking fanboys.I went over. He asked what I’d thought of the speech, and he suggested we find somewhere to talk.
He asked me to turn my recorder off so we could speak candidly.
I agreed, with regret, because the conversation revealed someone who I think will be hugely influential in our politics in the coming years,
even if he loses his Senate primary,
as both of us thought was possible.It also revealed someone who is in a dark place,
with a view that we are at an ominous turning point in America’s history.He didn’t want to describe this to me on the record.
But I can show it anyway, because he already says it publicly, and you can hear it too.
That night, I went up to my hotel room and listened to a podcast interview Vance had conducted with Jack Murphy,
the big, bearded head of the "Liminal Order" men’s group.Murphy asked how it was that Vance proposed to rip out America’s leadership class.
Vance described two possibilities that many on the New Right imagine
—that our system will either fall apart naturally,
or that a great leader will assume semi-dictatorial powers.“So there’s this guy Curtis Yarvin, who has written about some of these things,” Vance said.
Murphy chortled knowingly.
“So one [option] is to basically accept that this entire thing is going to fall in on itself,” Vance went on.
“And so the task of conservatives right now is to preserve as much as can be preserved,” waiting for the “inevitable collapse” of the current order.
He said he thought this was pessimistic.
“I tend to think that we should seize the institutions of the left,” he said.
“And turn them against the left.We need like a
de-Baathification program,
a de-woke-ification program.”I think Trump is going to run again in 2024,” he said.
“I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice:
Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state,
replace them with our people.”
“And when the courts stop you,” he went on, “stand before the country, and say
—” he quoted Andrew Jackson, giving a challenge to the entire constitutional order
—“the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”This is a description, essentially, of a coup.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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Yarvin and Laurenson bounded out of the crowd as the cheers were still ringing.
They were giggling, seeming to have had some wine.
“Nixon—Nixon!”Laurenson said,
still laughing.I couldn’t tell if she was delighted or horrified.
A couple of hours later I found Vance standing up by the bar,
surrounded by a circle of young and identical-looking fanboys.I went over. He asked what I’d thought of the speech, and he suggested we find somewhere to talk.
He asked me to turn my recorder off so we could speak candidly.
I agreed, with regret, because the conversation revealed someone who I think will be hugely influential in our politics in the coming years,
even if he loses his Senate primary,
as both of us thought was possible.It also revealed someone who is in a dark place,
with a view that we are at an ominous turning point in America’s history.He didn’t want to describe this to me on the record.
But I can show it anyway, because he already says it publicly, and you can hear it too.
That night, I went up to my hotel room and listened to a podcast interview Vance had conducted with Jack Murphy,
the big, bearded head of the "Liminal Order" men’s group.Murphy asked how it was that Vance proposed to rip out America’s leadership class.
Vance described two possibilities that many on the New Right imagine
—that our system will either fall apart naturally,
or that a great leader will assume semi-dictatorial powers.“So there’s this guy Curtis Yarvin, who has written about some of these things,” Vance said.
Murphy chortled knowingly.
“So one [option] is to basically accept that this entire thing is going to fall in on itself,” Vance went on.
“And so the task of conservatives right now is to preserve as much as can be preserved,” waiting for the “inevitable collapse” of the current order.
He said he thought this was pessimistic.
“I tend to think that we should seize the institutions of the left,” he said.
“And turn them against the left.We need like a
de-Baathification program,
a de-woke-ification program.”I think Trump is going to run again in 2024,” he said.
“I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice:
Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state,
replace them with our people.”
“And when the courts stop you,” he went on, “stand before the country, and say
—” he quoted Andrew Jackson, giving a challenge to the entire constitutional order
—“the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”This is a description, essentially, of a coup.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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On the last afternoon of NatCon,
a few hours before he was set to give the keynote address,
Vance showed up.He spotted me drinking a beer at the bar and came over to say hello.
“I still have no idea what I’m going to say,” he said, though he didn’t seem worried.
I wandered down to the ballroom to wait and ended up sitting with the U.S. correspondent for the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel.
I knew that some of the reporters there might have been under the impression that this was all mostly just tweedy MAGA pageantry.
He had a more complex view, having just spoken to Yarvin,
and asked me to explain his philosophy.I found myself at a loss.
I said that there were these things called the regime and the Cathedral and that Yarvin was “sort of a monarchist.”“A monarchist?”he asked.
He seemed taken aback to learn that what this hero figure of the New Right dreamed of was a king.
Vance showed up, wearing a suit and bright red tie,
looking relaxed for a person who was about to give a speech to hundreds of people who viewed him as possibly a last great hope in saving the American nation from global corporatist subjugation.He’d shot up in the polls and at that moment was second in his primary, helped by regular invitations from Carlson.
I asked how he was feeling about the speech. He looked impish. “I think I’ve got a good topic,” he said. “I’m going to talk about college.”
What he meant was that he was about to give a genuinely thunderous speech, titled
“The Universities Are the Enemy.”People immediately pointed out that it was a variation on something that Richard Nixon said to Henry Kissinger on White House tapes back in 1972.
Vance denounced elite colleges as enemies of the American people;
he has long proposed cutting off their federal funding and seizing their endowments.
The speech was later linked in alarmed
op-eds to “anti-intellectual” movements that had attacked institutions of learning.But that doesn’t quite reckon with what an apocalyptic message he was offering.
Because Vance and this New Right cohort, who are mostly so, so highly educated and well-read that their big problem often seems to be that they’re just too nerdy to be an effective force in mass politics,
are not anti-intellectual.Vance is an intellectual himself, even if he’s not currently playing one on TV.
But he thinks that our universities are full of people who have a structural,
self-serving, and
financial interest in coloring American culture as racist and evil.And he is ready to go to extraordinary lengths to fight them.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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On the last afternoon of NatCon,
a few hours before he was set to give the keynote address,
Vance showed up.He spotted me drinking a beer at the bar and came over to say hello.
“I still have no idea what I’m going to say,” he said, though he didn’t seem worried.
I wandered down to the ballroom to wait and ended up sitting with the U.S. correspondent for the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel.
I knew that some of the reporters there might have been under the impression that this was all mostly just tweedy MAGA pageantry.
He had a more complex view, having just spoken to Yarvin,
and asked me to explain his philosophy.I found myself at a loss.
I said that there were these things called the regime and the Cathedral and that Yarvin was “sort of a monarchist.”“A monarchist?”he asked.
He seemed taken aback to learn that what this hero figure of the New Right dreamed of was a king.
Vance showed up, wearing a suit and bright red tie,
looking relaxed for a person who was about to give a speech to hundreds of people who viewed him as possibly a last great hope in saving the American nation from global corporatist subjugation.He’d shot up in the polls and at that moment was second in his primary, helped by regular invitations from Carlson.
I asked how he was feeling about the speech. He looked impish. “I think I’ve got a good topic,” he said. “I’m going to talk about college.”
What he meant was that he was about to give a genuinely thunderous speech, titled
“The Universities Are the Enemy.”People immediately pointed out that it was a variation on something that Richard Nixon said to Henry Kissinger on White House tapes back in 1972.
Vance denounced elite colleges as enemies of the American people;
he has long proposed cutting off their federal funding and seizing their endowments.
The speech was later linked in alarmed
op-eds to “anti-intellectual” movements that had attacked institutions of learning.But that doesn’t quite reckon with what an apocalyptic message he was offering.
Because Vance and this New Right cohort, who are mostly so, so highly educated and well-read that their big problem often seems to be that they’re just too nerdy to be an effective force in mass politics,
are not anti-intellectual.Vance is an intellectual himself, even if he’s not currently playing one on TV.
But he thinks that our universities are full of people who have a structural,
self-serving, and
financial interest in coloring American culture as racist and evil.And he is ready to go to extraordinary lengths to fight them.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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We drove a long way into the desert before we arrived at the campaign meet-and-greet,
which was being hosted by a former CIA official in a comfortable retirement community.The crowd of a few dozen was mostly sweater-wearing retirees,
immersed in a media culture in which the people who repeated the most incendiary and Trumpist talking points tended to gain attention and political support.This kind of groupthink was not just a phenomenon of the liberal media,
and this fact has hampered the campaigns of both Masters and Vance,
who are often seen as Trump-aligned culture warriors,
and who have had a lot of trouble working their more complicated policy ideas into our fervid political conversation.He talked through his proposal to regulate tech companies as common carriers,
like America once regulated phone companies.The crowd seemed interested but hardly electrified.
When he took questions at the end, they were mostly the usual ones about the supposedly stolen 2020 election
—a view that Masters did not push back on
—the border wall,
vaccine mandates.One man raised his hand to ask how Masters planned to drain the swamp.
He gave me a sly look. “Well, one of my friends has this acronym he calls RAGE,” he said.
“Retire All Government Employees.”
The crowd liked the sound of this and erupted in a cheer.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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We drove a long way into the desert before we arrived at the campaign meet-and-greet,
which was being hosted by a former CIA official in a comfortable retirement community.The crowd of a few dozen was mostly sweater-wearing retirees,
immersed in a media culture in which the people who repeated the most incendiary and Trumpist talking points tended to gain attention and political support.This kind of groupthink was not just a phenomenon of the liberal media,
and this fact has hampered the campaigns of both Masters and Vance,
who are often seen as Trump-aligned culture warriors,
and who have had a lot of trouble working their more complicated policy ideas into our fervid political conversation.He talked through his proposal to regulate tech companies as common carriers,
like America once regulated phone companies.The crowd seemed interested but hardly electrified.
When he took questions at the end, they were mostly the usual ones about the supposedly stolen 2020 election
—a view that Masters did not push back on
—the border wall,
vaccine mandates.One man raised his hand to ask how Masters planned to drain the swamp.
He gave me a sly look. “Well, one of my friends has this acronym he calls RAGE,” he said.
“Retire All Government Employees.”
The crowd liked the sound of this and erupted in a cheer.
#Kyle #Rittenhouse #Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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I asked Masters whether he thought the core of his project was a fight against a consumerist
techno-dystopia that many on the left have also come to fear.He said yes.
I asked why, if this was the case, it almost never came across in his mainstream media appearances.
“That’s interesting feedback,” he said. “That it’s not coming through.”
“I go on, and it’s the tail end of the B block, and I’ve got two minutes to talk about #Kyle #Rittenhouse,” he’d said earlier,
talking about his spots on Fox News.
“And it’s like, ‘Well, the left is insane, and this kid shouldn’t have been on trial,
and they’re punishing him for being a white guy who defended himself with an AR-15.’ ”Conservative media seems to thrive on culture-war touch points as much as all the rest of it.
“I feel like I’m willing to go there,” he said.
“But you can’t do that on Laura Ingraham sound bites.”
He was a little less rosy about the future with some interviewers than he was with me.
“We need someone with their hand on the tiller who understands where we’ve been and where we need to go,” he told the podcaster Alex Kaschuta recently.
“Otherwise we will get just totally owned by the progressive left.
And the progressive left just remains the enemy.
It’s the enemy of true progress. It’s the enemy of everything that is good.”
I asked if he could give me a vision of what he thought victory for his side would look like.
“It’s just families and meaningful work,” he said,
“so that you can raise your kids and worship and pursue your hobbies and figure out what the meaning of it all is.”Pretty much anyone could agree with this. And pretty much anyone could wonder how it is that this sort of thing has come to seem radical,
or distant from the lives of many people growing into adulthood today.“It just feels so networked,” he said. “It’s so in-the-matrix.”
#Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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I asked Masters whether he thought the core of his project was a fight against a consumerist
techno-dystopia that many on the left have also come to fear.He said yes.
I asked why, if this was the case, it almost never came across in his mainstream media appearances.
“That’s interesting feedback,” he said. “That it’s not coming through.”
“I go on, and it’s the tail end of the B block, and I’ve got two minutes to talk about #Kyle #Rittenhouse,” he’d said earlier,
talking about his spots on Fox News.
“And it’s like, ‘Well, the left is insane, and this kid shouldn’t have been on trial,
and they’re punishing him for being a white guy who defended himself with an AR-15.’ ”Conservative media seems to thrive on culture-war touch points as much as all the rest of it.
“I feel like I’m willing to go there,” he said.
“But you can’t do that on Laura Ingraham sound bites.”
He was a little less rosy about the future with some interviewers than he was with me.
“We need someone with their hand on the tiller who understands where we’ve been and where we need to go,” he told the podcaster Alex Kaschuta recently.
“Otherwise we will get just totally owned by the progressive left.
And the progressive left just remains the enemy.
It’s the enemy of true progress. It’s the enemy of everything that is good.”
I asked if he could give me a vision of what he thought victory for his side would look like.
“It’s just families and meaningful work,” he said,
“so that you can raise your kids and worship and pursue your hobbies and figure out what the meaning of it all is.”Pretty much anyone could agree with this. And pretty much anyone could wonder how it is that this sort of thing has come to seem radical,
or distant from the lives of many people growing into adulthood today.“It just feels so networked,” he said. “It’s so in-the-matrix.”
#Unabomber #Kaczynski #Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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“ ‘The regime’ sounds really sexy, right?”
Masters said to me.“It’s a tangible enemy
—if you could just grapple with it in the right way, you can topple it.
And I think it’s actually just a lot less sexy and a lot more bureaucratic,” he said.“But I’ve read that stuff, and I see what it means.”
I asked him about the term
Thielbucks,
and how true it was that the Thiel Foundation was funding a network of New Right podcasters
and cool-kid cultural figures
as a sort of cultural vanguard.“It depends if it’s just dissident-right think-tank stuff,”
he told me,
“or if anyone actually does anything.”“I don’t know how that became a meme,” he said about Thielbucks.
“I think I would know if those kids were getting money.”
“We fund some stuff,” he told me. “But we’re not funding an army of meme posters.”
He told me that he and Thiel had met with Khachiyan, one of the cohosts of Red Scare.
“Which was cool,” he said. “Their podcast is interesting.”
I asked if there was a world in which they might get funding from Thiel.
“Maybe, yeah,” he said.
“We fund some weird stuff with the Thiel Foundation.”
We drove together to a campaign event, talking about everything from how technology is reshaping our brains to environmental policy,
both of us circling from different political directions to an apocalyptic place.“I do think we’re at a moment of crossroads,” he said.
“And if we play it wrong, it’s the Dark Ages.”
Masters has publicly said he thinks “everybody should read” the #Unabomber’s anti-tech manifesto,
“Industrial Society and Its Future,”
which may sound strange for a young tech executive running to serve in the United States Senate.But to Masters, #Kaczynski’s critique was a useful analysis of how technology shapes our world
and how “degrading and debasing” it could be to human lives.#Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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“ ‘The regime’ sounds really sexy, right?”
Masters said to me.“It’s a tangible enemy
—if you could just grapple with it in the right way, you can topple it.
And I think it’s actually just a lot less sexy and a lot more bureaucratic,” he said.“But I’ve read that stuff, and I see what it means.”
I asked him about the term
Thielbucks,
and how true it was that the Thiel Foundation was funding a network of New Right podcasters
and cool-kid cultural figures
as a sort of cultural vanguard.“It depends if it’s just dissident-right think-tank stuff,”
he told me,
“or if anyone actually does anything.”“I don’t know how that became a meme,” he said about Thielbucks.
“I think I would know if those kids were getting money.”
“We fund some stuff,” he told me. “But we’re not funding an army of meme posters.”
He told me that he and Thiel had met with Khachiyan, one of the cohosts of Red Scare.
“Which was cool,” he said. “Their podcast is interesting.”
I asked if there was a world in which they might get funding from Thiel.
“Maybe, yeah,” he said.
“We fund some weird stuff with the Thiel Foundation.”
We drove together to a campaign event, talking about everything from how technology is reshaping our brains to environmental policy,
both of us circling from different political directions to an apocalyptic place.“I do think we’re at a moment of crossroads,” he said.
“And if we play it wrong, it’s the Dark Ages.”
Masters has publicly said he thinks “everybody should read” the #Unabomber’s anti-tech manifesto,
“Industrial Society and Its Future,”
which may sound strange for a young tech executive running to serve in the United States Senate.But to Masters, #Kaczynski’s critique was a useful analysis of how technology shapes our world
and how “degrading and debasing” it could be to human lives.#Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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A few weeks after NatCon, I drove from California to Tucson to meet Masters,
a very tall, very thin, very fit 35-year-old.I wanted to see how all this might translate into an actual election campaign,
and I’d been watching a lot of Fox News,including Yarvin’s streaming interview with Carlson in which he gave a swirling depiction of how the Cathedral produced its groupthink.
“Why do Yale and Harvard always agree on everything?” he asked.
“These organizations are essentially branches of the same thing,” he told a mesmerized Carlson.
“You’re like, ‘Where are the wires?’ ”
He sketched his vision of (as he calls it) a “constitutional” regime change that would take power back from this oligarchy
—so diffuse most people hardly knew it was there.“That’s what makes it so hard to kill,” he said.
At a coffee shop near the house he’d bought when he moved back home to Tucson from the Bay Area,
Masters and I went through the tenets of his nationalist platform:on-shoring industrial production,
slashing legal immigration,
regulating big tech companies,
and eventually restructuring the economy so that one salary would be enough to raise a family on.I mentioned Yarvin and his line of arguing that America’s system had become so sclerotic that it was hopeless to imagine making big systemic changes like these.
“In a system where state capacity is very low…” I started the question.
“Alas,” he said, with a twinkle in his eye.
“Do we need a crisis to get there?” I asked him.
“Maybe, maybe, maybe,” he said.
It wasn’t where his immediate thinking was.“I’ll have the proverbial machete,” he said. “But yeah, it may take some kind of crisis to get us there.”
He paused. “But we’re already sort of in one, right?”
Masters often says he’s not as black-pilled and pessimistic as some in the New Right spheres.
He seems, unlike many New Righters, to still earnestly believe in the power of electoral politics.
But he does think that the culturally liberal and free-market ideology that has guided America’s politics in recent years
is a hopeless dead end.“A country is not just an economy,” Masters told the dissident-right outlet
IM—1776
recently.“You also need a conception of yourself as a nation, as a people, and as a culture.
And that’s what America is increasingly lacking today.”
“It’s true that I’m incredibly hopeful,” he said to me.
“I think it’s really bleak, I think the default is continued stagnation, and maybe you get the crisis in 5 years or maybe it’s 30 years from now.”
He told me that he didn’t like to use terms like the Cathedral and used “the regime” less often than Vance,
although I later noticed that he used this latter phrase frequently with interviewers on the dissident right.
#Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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A few weeks after NatCon, I drove from California to Tucson to meet Masters,
a very tall, very thin, very fit 35-year-old.I wanted to see how all this might translate into an actual election campaign,
and I’d been watching a lot of Fox News,including Yarvin’s streaming interview with Carlson in which he gave a swirling depiction of how the Cathedral produced its groupthink.
“Why do Yale and Harvard always agree on everything?” he asked.
“These organizations are essentially branches of the same thing,” he told a mesmerized Carlson.
“You’re like, ‘Where are the wires?’ ”
He sketched his vision of (as he calls it) a “constitutional” regime change that would take power back from this oligarchy
—so diffuse most people hardly knew it was there.“That’s what makes it so hard to kill,” he said.
At a coffee shop near the house he’d bought when he moved back home to Tucson from the Bay Area,
Masters and I went through the tenets of his nationalist platform:on-shoring industrial production,
slashing legal immigration,
regulating big tech companies,
and eventually restructuring the economy so that one salary would be enough to raise a family on.I mentioned Yarvin and his line of arguing that America’s system had become so sclerotic that it was hopeless to imagine making big systemic changes like these.
“In a system where state capacity is very low…” I started the question.
“Alas,” he said, with a twinkle in his eye.
“Do we need a crisis to get there?” I asked him.
“Maybe, maybe, maybe,” he said.
It wasn’t where his immediate thinking was.“I’ll have the proverbial machete,” he said. “But yeah, it may take some kind of crisis to get us there.”
He paused. “But we’re already sort of in one, right?”
Masters often says he’s not as black-pilled and pessimistic as some in the New Right spheres.
He seems, unlike many New Righters, to still earnestly believe in the power of electoral politics.
But he does think that the culturally liberal and free-market ideology that has guided America’s politics in recent years
is a hopeless dead end.“A country is not just an economy,” Masters told the dissident-right outlet
IM—1776
recently.“You also need a conception of yourself as a nation, as a people, and as a culture.
And that’s what America is increasingly lacking today.”
“It’s true that I’m incredibly hopeful,” he said to me.
“I think it’s really bleak, I think the default is continued stagnation, and maybe you get the crisis in 5 years or maybe it’s 30 years from now.”
He told me that he didn’t like to use terms like the Cathedral and used “the regime” less often than Vance,
although I later noticed that he used this latter phrase frequently with interviewers on the dissident right.
#Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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Like Levy, Milius is in the funny position of being at the intersection of many of these crosscurrents,
having worked in mainstream politics but appearing on so-called dissident podcasts
and being on the periphery of a cultural scene where right-wing politics have taken on a sheen approximating cool.
She said she was too “black-pilled”
—a very online term used to describe people who think that our world is so messed up that nothing can save it now
—to think much about what it would look like for her side to win.“I could fucking trip over the curb,” Milius said, “and that’s going to be considered white supremacism.
Like, there’s nothing you can do. What the fuck isn’t white supremacism?”
“They’re going to come for everything,” she said.
“And I think it’s sinister
—not that I think that people who want to pay attention to race issues are sinister.But I think that the globalization movement is using these divisive arguments in order to make people think that it’s a good thing.”
This is the Cathedral at work.
#Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook
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Like Levy, Milius is in the funny position of being at the intersection of many of these crosscurrents,
having worked in mainstream politics but appearing on so-called dissident podcasts
and being on the periphery of a cultural scene where right-wing politics have taken on a sheen approximating cool.
She said she was too “black-pilled”
—a very online term used to describe people who think that our world is so messed up that nothing can save it now
—to think much about what it would look like for her side to win.“I could fucking trip over the curb,” Milius said, “and that’s going to be considered white supremacism.
Like, there’s nothing you can do. What the fuck isn’t white supremacism?”
“They’re going to come for everything,” she said.
“And I think it’s sinister
—not that I think that people who want to pay attention to race issues are sinister.But I think that the globalization movement is using these divisive arguments in order to make people think that it’s a good thing.”
This is the Cathedral at work.
#Dasha #Nekrasova #Thiel #Balaji #Srinivasan #Coinbase #Koch #Milo #Yiannopoulis #Steve #Bannon #NRx #RAGE #authoritarianism #monarchy #Yarvin #crypto #decentralized #internet #Lydia #Laurenson #BDSM #Mencius #Moldbug #Anton #Yarvin #Yarvin #Thielverse #Cruz #Josh #Hawley #Masters #Vance #Rod #Dreher #Walter #Kirn #worldview #dystopian #hell #Peter #Thiel #NatCon #Thielbucks #Vance #Blake #Masters #Thiel #Foundation #New #Right #Curtis #Yarvin #incels #Josh #Hammer #Michael #Anton #Chris #Arnade #Sohrab #Ahmari #Compact #libertine #left #libertarian #right #kook