#os1337 — Public Fediverse posts
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:boost_ok: We'd like to move to fosstodon.org (or any other #FLOSS-centric Instance; preferably with #GlitchSoc support for #MarkDown)…
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:boost_ok: We'd like to move to fosstodon.org (or any other #FLOSS-centric Instance; preferably with #GlitchSoc support for #MarkDown)…
- Anyone willing to do a recommendation / offer an invite?
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:boost_ok: We'd like to move to fosstodon.org (or any other #FLOSS-centric Instance; preferably with #GlitchSoc support for #MarkDown)…
- Anyone willing to do a recommendation / offer an invite?
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:boost_ok: We'd like to move to fosstodon.org (or any other #FLOSS-centric Instance; preferably with #GlitchSoc support for #MarkDown)…
- Anyone willing to do a recommendation / offer an invite?
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@sjmulder @landley sadly a lot of #TechIlliterates seem to accept the #Enshittification of #tech because they don't know better and rather believe marketing lies than ask #InconvenientTruth|s.
The fact that a lot of #Apps are so outrageous #Bloatware isn't a law of nature but a result of #WhatYouAllowIsWhatWillContinue applied to the masses...
There is no reason for a website (w/o images and other multimedia content OFC) to be bigger than OS/1337 and taking longer to load than #OS1337 needs to boot on anything that isn't a severely choked #Iridium satellite internet connection...
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@polyote @landley #Lua is definitely an upgrade in some cases tho.
Like #neovim using it instead of #VimScript...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4OyfL5o7DUGranted I use #nano and have to get used to #kilo for #OS1337 but still...
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@DavittoKun @landley Tho I'd rather prefer something like my trusty #P11Z or a #NUCbook or a @frameworkcomputer because having the option to go with a #GUI desktop like @tails / @tails_live / #Tails is nice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7QSadly noone made something similar that comes in the form factor of my #X230Tablet or smaller with like fully upgradeable RAM & SSD as well as toolfree swappable batteries.
Even the #Framework seems to be a regression in that part...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ_8_880S60But yeah, I could just put #OS1337 on like a USB flashdrive and boot that or if I'm extra lazy use something like #Ventoy so I don't need to reflash stuff but can just drag & drop any image onto.
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@DavittoKun @landley Tho I'd rather prefer something like my trusty #P11Z or a #NUCbook or a @frameworkcomputer because having the option to go with a #GUI desktop like @tails / @tails_live / #Tails is nice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7QAnd sadly noone made something similar that comes in the form factor of my #X230Tablet or smaller with like fully upgradeable RAM & SSD as well as toolfree swappable batteries.
Even the #Framework seems to be a regression in that part...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ_8_880S60But yeah, I could just put #OS1337 on like a USB flashdrive and boot that or if I'm extra lazy use something like #Ventoy so I don't need to reflash stuff but can just drag & drop any image onto.
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@landley @DavittoKun *nodds in agreement*
I don't expect anyone maintaining, designing or building #CriticalInfrastructure to ever reach out to me or even use OS/1337, but if those developing i.e. medical IT take a look at this and decide to use a clean and minimalist #Linux, #FreeBSD, #OpenBSD or even #illumos - based distro with #toybox or another compact #Userland instead of some botched "embedded" Version of Windows, then already that's the kind of change I want to see...
I mean it would be cool if they used and contributed to #OS1337 but if I wanted to force them then I should've made some commercial distro akin to #WindRiverLinux or #VxWorks instead, and I don't...
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@landley @DavittoKun *nodds in agreement*
I don't expect anyone maintaining, designing or building #CriticalInfrastructure to ever reach out to me or even use OS/1337, but if those developing i.e. medical IT take a look at this and decide to use a clean and minimalist #Linux, #FreeBSD, #OpenBSD or even #illumos - based distro with #toybox or another compact #Userland instead of some botched "embedded" Version of Windows, then already that's the kind of change I want to see...
I mean it would be cool if they used and contributed to #OS1337 but if I wanted to force them then I should've made some commercial distro akin to #WindRiverLinux or #VxWorks instead, and I don't...
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@DavittoKun @landley Granted, @Raspberry_Pi 's goals are different than mine and those goals are valid too.
You can't have #TechLiteracy by the masses if they never get #tech they can tinker and learn with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Dpz35HLOI#RaspberryPi basically dominate the #ARM & #ARM64-based SBC market because every competitior just solders some silicon on a board and thows it on the wall with neither good #Documentation nor #Support, letting customers to "fuck around and find out" instead, which is exciting for a few but a complete disregard to the value of time of the buyers for everyone who needs to make it go brrr.
There's a reason the #BananaPi0M2 was never scalped, because Software makes OSes and OSes make Hardware!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStMWhereas the #Pi0 / #Pi0W & #Pi0W2 - whilst being proprietary in nature, are easy to integrate and develop for with free, excellent documentation and a vendor that actually gives a shit!
Thus it would be stupid *NOT* to target their boards woth OS/1337!
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/docu/ideas/architectures.tsvSorry if I seem a bit nasty-worded...
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@DavittoKun @landley Granted, @Raspberry_Pi 's goals are different than mine and those goals are valid too.
You can't have #TechLiteracy by the masses if they never get #tech they can tinker with and learn with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Dpz35HLOI#RaspberryPi basically dominate the #ARM & #ARM64-based SBC market because every competitior just solders some silicon on a board and thows it on the wall with neither good #Documentation nor #Support, letting customers to "fuck around and find out" instead, which is exciting for a few but a complete disregard to the value of time of the buyers for everyone who needs to make it go brrr.
There's a reason the #BananaPi0M2 was never scalped, because Software makes OSes and OSes make Hardware!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStMWhereas the #Pi0 / #Pi0W & #Pi0W2 - whilst being proprietary in nature, are easy to integrate and develop for with free, excellent documentation and a vendor that actually gives a shit!
Thus it would be stupid *NOT* to target their boards woth OS/1337!
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/docu/ideas/architectures.tsvSorry if I seem a bit nasty-worded...
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Aside from "rebuilding under itself" which is on the roadmap, OS/1337 is close to #mkroot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkJkyMuBm3g&t=11m50s (video via @linuxfoundation feat. @landley )Certainly not a drop-in replacement, but that's not the primary goal of it either.
It would be nice, but it's not a strict necessity as of now...It's also not as cringe as using a botched Debian 8.2 shoved though OpenADK and left to marinade or rather rot for almost a decade on devices being deployed to customers...
https://www.viprinet.com/en/support/downloads#viprinuxAs of now, just running build.sh does build a working 1440kB floppy image that boots.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/scripts/build.shTho there are still some issues I'm confident this will get some releaseable alpha version this year if not the first half of it...
https://github.com/orgs/OS-1337/projects/1Contributions to #OS1337 are welcome as well as feedback: Tho be mindful this is pre-alpha software so it may have a lot of rough and sharp edges that can hurt.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issuesIf one can test on physical hardware with ISA and/or PC/104 bus that would really help.
Ideally use something like a Gotek #SFR1M44 test with if your System's #BIOS doesn't support USB-#Floppy emulation via an image file like some #Vortex86-based SBCs.
https://www.gotekemulator.com/P_view.asp?pid=57
(Doesn't require #Flash Floppy tho it's recommended!
https://github.com/keirf/flashfloppy)As of now, OS/1337 does boot, but has a lot of issues...
But we're confident to get them addressed.
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Aside from "rebuilding under itself" which is on the roadmap, OS/1337 is close to #mkroot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkJkyMuBm3g&t=11m50sCertainly not a drop-in replacement, but that's not the primary goal of it either.
It would be nice, but it's not a strict necessity as of now...But way less cringe than using a botched Debian 8.2 shoved though OpenADK and left to marinade or rather rot for almost a decade on devices being deployed to customers...
https://www.viprinet.com/en/support/downloads#viprinuxAs of now, just running build.sh does build a working 1440kB floppy image that boots.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/scripts/build.shTho there are still some issues I'm confident this will get some releaseable alpha version this year if not the first half of it...
https://github.com/orgs/OS-1337/projects/1Contributions to #OS1337 are welcome as well as feedback: Tho be mindful this is pre-alpha software so it may have a lot of rough and sharp edges that can hurt.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issuesIf one can test on physical hardware with ISA and/or PC/104 bus that would really help.
Ideally use something like a Gotek #SFR1M44 test with if your System.UEFI doesn't suppirt USB & floppy emulation via.image file.
https://www.gotekemulator.com/P_view.asp?pid=57
(Doesn't require #Flash Floppy tho it's recommended!
https://github.com/keirf/flashfloppyAs of now, OS/1337 does boot, but has a lot of issues...
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@rory Since then @SweetAIBelle and I have worked on OS/1337 and whilst we have some booting prereleases, I want to iron it out into something that works and that is easily extensible and "build from source yourself"...
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337
https://github.com/orgs/OS-1337/projects/1/views/1Tho #OS1337 is not to be confused with @landley 's reference implementation of a #toybox + #musl / #Linux distro that is #mkroot, which is close to but not identical to the foundation of #Android, but exceeds my space requirements.
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@rory Well, for #OS1337 I took inspiration from @w84death 's #Floppinux and took his #documentation and went full "chimp banging rocks together" on it, but swapping #BusyBox for @landley 's #toybox since I prefer #bash over #ash and wanted something really basic that would do more than cat text files but provide i.e. a portable #SSH #client on a FDD.
Something that could serve as a foundation or rather plain "slate for my other projects in lieu of a THICC distro that is not practically auditable -
@hramrach @bagder if you think #bash is horrible (I assume you use #zsh and/or #fish - which then yes that is a valid argument) then please take a look at #ksh, #tcsh or the original #UNIX #sh and tell me that's readable.
Tangents aside: Bash, for better or worse, is the #standard for #Linux and since I want OS/1337 to be "self-reproducing" / "self-hosting" with as little dependencies as possible, I'm stuck with it.
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Not to mention that OS/1337 should really excel with #transparency and #reproduceability in that the first #release should be completely possible to #DIY from scratch by running a single #bash script that yoinks said sourcecodes, .config files and in the end spits out a working & #bootable #1440kB 3,5" #FDD image.
Nothing fancy but something useable - even if it's just a #dropbear #SSH #Client (aka. #dbclient) and the basic #toybox tools to get #IPv4 connectivity.
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@HopelessDemigod The current goal is to get a 0.1 release that fits on a 1.400kB 3,5" FDD and includes #Linux (ideally 6.6.6 for maximum meme factor) #Toybox and #dbclient (#Dropbear #SSH as SSH-Client only) compiled against #musl-cross and bootable on any #i486 and up.
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:boost_requested: :boost_ok: :boost_animated: WANTED: Instance Recommendations for a FLOSS Project:
If anyone can recommend a good instance that isn't compromized by #Threads aka. #NSAbook / #StasiBook or is filled with #Stallmanists and #SystemD-haters let me know.
https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/111282597715483528I may also intent the same for other projects of mine like #ListsD & #NUCbook besides OS/1337 to enshure my account ain't a single point of failure.
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@blacklight +9001%
Another option is to #DemandBetter and #DoBetter.The fact that #Ubuntu 18.04 on a 7200rpm HDD is faster than #Windows 10 on a SATA-6G - SSD on the exact same system speaks volumes.
I refuse to use Windows & #MicrosoftOffice for the same reason: I hate the #Enshittification!
In terms of "Do better" I work on OS/1337 as #minimalist #CLI #Desktop #Linux.
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3. A repo that includes said built binaries as packages:
https://github.com/OS-1337/pkgs4. Additional useful and vital packages to make OS/1337 a useable #TUI-based OS.
Stuff like:
- #fish #shell ( https://fishshell.com )
- #enc ( https://github.com/life4/enc ) as #GnuPG replacement
- #ne ( https://ne.di.unimi.it/ ) #editorAnd a plethera of other tools that are quite essential...
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/docu/ideas/packages.list.tsvSo help is appreciated...
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@linear Well, I aim to #DoBetter and whilst I've yet to formulate it into a code of conduct, feel free to check out #ListsD and #OS1337 or #NUCbook and whateber else I work on ( see: https://github.com/kkarhan )
Cuz to me your words and actions matter, not some arbitrary bs that you didn't choose or that is irrelevant to the words and actions of yours...
Please smack me in the face if I fail at it and tell me why and what should be done better...
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@joepie91 Don't forget:
- #Mumble for #VoiceChats- #Linphone as #SIP / #VoIP client
- #gparted and #ddrescue as well as #testdik & #photorec for halding storage and recovering data.
And ofc all the tools I need daily like #SSH (#OpenSSH), #OpenVPN, #WireGuard, #IPsec, #pfSense, #OPNsense, #ipFire, #LUKS/ #dmcrypt and the whole #toolchain needed for OS/1337 like #gcc, #musl, #toybox, #dropbear and so on.