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The #OS1337 [website](https://os1337.com) has been updated.
- We moved from #UbuntuMono to #B612Mono because the #B612 font family is licensed under SIL OFL and #Ubuntu's fonts have their own licenses.
- Also B612 is a *superior font* given that #Airbus got it designed, tested, and certified for *Civil Aviation Use*, which means it got extensive testing under harsh conditions.
Aesthetically, it's not much different!
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The #OS1337 [website](https://os1337.com) has been updated.
- We moved from #UbuntuMono to #B612Mono because the #B612 font family is licensed under SIL OFL and #Ubuntu's fonts have their own licenses.
- Also B612 is a *superior font* given that #Airbus got it designed, tested, and certified for *Civil Aviation Use*, which means it got extensive testing under harsh conditions.
Aesthetically, it's not much different!
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@jerry
OFC that doesn't apply to the OS/1337 project since as of now there is no "stable" there... -
@jerry
OFC that doesn't apply to the OS/1337 project since as of now there is no "stable" there... -
@sjmulder @howtophil yeah.
Even @w84death 's #Floppinux will need - like OS/1337 - at least 16 MB of RAM...
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@sjmulder @howtophil yeah.
Even @w84death 's #Floppinux will need - like OS/1337 - at least 16 MB of RAM...
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@Yuki not that I want to discourage anyone, but it would be frankly dishonest if I didn't clarify the current state OS/1337 is in.
OFC I want it to get there...
Just don't expect this to be a smooth ride as of now.
https://infosec.space/@OS1337/111852589368445456 -
@Yuki not that I want to discourage anyone, but it would be frankly dishonest if I didn't clarify the current state OS/1337 is in.
OFC I want it to get there...
Just don't expect this to be a smooth ride as of now.
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@sjmulder @landley sadly a lot of #TechIlliterates seem to accept the #Enshittification of #tech because they don't know better and rather believe marketing lies than ask #InconvenientTruth|s.
The fact that a lot of #Apps are so outrageous #Bloatware isn't a law of nature but a result of #WhatYouAllowIsWhatWillContinue applied to the masses...
There is no reason for a website (w/o images and other multimedia content OFC) to be bigger than OS/1337 and taking longer to load than #OS1337 needs to boot on anything that isn't a severely choked #Iridium satellite internet connection...
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@polyote @landley #Lua is definitely an upgrade in some cases tho.
Like #neovim using it instead of #VimScript...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4OyfL5o7DUGranted I use #nano and have to get used to #kilo for #OS1337 but still...
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@polyote @landley #Lua is definitely an upgrade in some cases tho.
Like #neovim using it instead of #VimScript...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4OyfL5o7DUGranted I use #nano and have to get used to #kilo for #OS1337 but still...
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@DavittoKun @landley Tho I'd rather prefer something like my trusty #P11Z or a #NUCbook or a @frameworkcomputer because having the option to go with a #GUI desktop like @tails / @tails_live / #Tails is nice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7QSadly noone made something similar that comes in the form factor of my #X230Tablet or smaller with like fully upgradeable RAM & SSD as well as toolfree swappable batteries.
Even the #Framework seems to be a regression in that part...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ_8_880S60But yeah, I could just put #OS1337 on like a USB flashdrive and boot that or if I'm extra lazy use something like #Ventoy so I don't need to reflash stuff but can just drag & drop any image onto.
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@DavittoKun @landley Tho I'd rather prefer something like my trusty #P11Z or a #NUCbook or a @frameworkcomputer because having the option to go with a #GUI desktop like @tails / @tails_live / #Tails is nice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7QAnd sadly noone made something similar that comes in the form factor of my #X230Tablet or smaller with like fully upgradeable RAM & SSD as well as toolfree swappable batteries.
Even the #Framework seems to be a regression in that part...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ_8_880S60But yeah, I could just put #OS1337 on like a USB flashdrive and boot that or if I'm extra lazy use something like #Ventoy so I don't need to reflash stuff but can just drag & drop any image onto.
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@landley @DavittoKun *nodds in agreement*
I don't expect anyone maintaining, designing or building #CriticalInfrastructure to ever reach out to me or even use OS/1337, but if those developing i.e. medical IT take a look at this and decide to use a clean and minimalist #Linux, #FreeBSD, #OpenBSD or even #illumos - based distro with #toybox or another compact #Userland instead of some botched "embedded" Version of Windows, then already that's the kind of change I want to see...
I mean it would be cool if they used and contributed to #OS1337 but if I wanted to force them then I should've made some commercial distro akin to #WindRiverLinux or #VxWorks instead, and I don't...
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@landley @DavittoKun *nodds in agreement*
I don't expect anyone maintaining, designing or building #CriticalInfrastructure to ever reach out to me or even use OS/1337, but if those developing i.e. medical IT take a look at this and decide to use a clean and minimalist #Linux, #FreeBSD, #OpenBSD or even #illumos - based distro with #toybox or another compact #Userland instead of some botched "embedded" Version of Windows, then already that's the kind of change I want to see...
I mean it would be cool if they used and contributed to #OS1337 but if I wanted to force them then I should've made some commercial distro akin to #WindRiverLinux or #VxWorks instead, and I don't...
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@DavittoKun @landley Granted, @Raspberry_Pi 's goals are different than mine and those goals are valid too.
You can't have #TechLiteracy by the masses if they never get #tech they can tinker and learn with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Dpz35HLOI#RaspberryPi basically dominate the #ARM & #ARM64-based SBC market because every competitior just solders some silicon on a board and thows it on the wall with neither good #Documentation nor #Support, letting customers to "fuck around and find out" instead, which is exciting for a few but a complete disregard to the value of time of the buyers for everyone who needs to make it go brrr.
There's a reason the #BananaPi0M2 was never scalped, because Software makes OSes and OSes make Hardware!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStMWhereas the #Pi0 / #Pi0W & #Pi0W2 - whilst being proprietary in nature, are easy to integrate and develop for with free, excellent documentation and a vendor that actually gives a shit!
Thus it would be stupid *NOT* to target their boards woth OS/1337!
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/docu/ideas/architectures.tsvSorry if I seem a bit nasty-worded...
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@DavittoKun @landley Granted, @Raspberry_Pi 's goals are different than mine and those goals are valid too.
You can't have #TechLiteracy by the masses if they never get #tech they can tinker with and learn with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Dpz35HLOI#RaspberryPi basically dominate the #ARM & #ARM64-based SBC market because every competitior just solders some silicon on a board and thows it on the wall with neither good #Documentation nor #Support, letting customers to "fuck around and find out" instead, which is exciting for a few but a complete disregard to the value of time of the buyers for everyone who needs to make it go brrr.
There's a reason the #BananaPi0M2 was never scalped, because Software makes OSes and OSes make Hardware!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStMWhereas the #Pi0 / #Pi0W & #Pi0W2 - whilst being proprietary in nature, are easy to integrate and develop for with free, excellent documentation and a vendor that actually gives a shit!
Thus it would be stupid *NOT* to target their boards woth OS/1337!
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/docu/ideas/architectures.tsvSorry if I seem a bit nasty-worded...
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@geraldew @RTP I think #Linux being #GPLv2 is good.
Would a lot of people prefer it to be #BSD?
Yes, myself included.Are some neckbeards angry it's #GPLv2only and not #GPLv3 or #AGPLv3?
Yes, but I don't think they matter beyond needing to quarantine them for their toxicity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2SKenHRhMgFact is: @linux is a good project and solid product as well, and @torvalds managed to get both businesses and individuals behind it, resulting in a very versatile common denominator of kernel.
That's why I chose if for #OS1337...
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@geraldew @RTP I think #Linux being #GPLv2 is good.
Would a lot of people prefer it to be #BSD?
Yes, myself included.Are some neckbeards angry it's #GPLv2only and not #GPLv3 or #AGPLv3?
Yes, but I don't think they matter beyond needing to quarantine them for their toxicity.Fact is: @linux is a good project and solid product as well, and @torvalds managed to get both businesses and individuals behind it, resulting in a very versatile common denominator of kernel.
That's why I chose if for #OS1337...
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Aside from "rebuilding under itself" which is on the roadmap, OS/1337 is close to #mkroot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkJkyMuBm3g&t=11m50s (video via @linuxfoundation feat. @landley )Certainly not a drop-in replacement, but that's not the primary goal of it either.
It would be nice, but it's not a strict necessity as of now...It's also not as cringe as using a botched Debian 8.2 shoved though OpenADK and left to marinade or rather rot for almost a decade on devices being deployed to customers...
https://www.viprinet.com/en/support/downloads#viprinuxAs of now, just running build.sh does build a working 1440kB floppy image that boots.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/scripts/build.shTho there are still some issues I'm confident this will get some releaseable alpha version this year if not the first half of it...
https://github.com/orgs/OS-1337/projects/1Contributions to #OS1337 are welcome as well as feedback: Tho be mindful this is pre-alpha software so it may have a lot of rough and sharp edges that can hurt.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issuesIf one can test on physical hardware with ISA and/or PC/104 bus that would really help.
Ideally use something like a Gotek #SFR1M44 test with if your System's #BIOS doesn't support USB-#Floppy emulation via an image file like some #Vortex86-based SBCs.
https://www.gotekemulator.com/P_view.asp?pid=57
(Doesn't require #Flash Floppy tho it's recommended!
https://github.com/keirf/flashfloppy)As of now, OS/1337 does boot, but has a lot of issues...
But we're confident to get them addressed.
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Aside from "rebuilding under itself" which is on the roadmap, OS/1337 is close to #mkroot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkJkyMuBm3g&t=11m50sCertainly not a drop-in replacement, but that's not the primary goal of it either.
It would be nice, but it's not a strict necessity as of now...But way less cringe than using a botched Debian 8.2 shoved though OpenADK and left to marinade or rather rot for almost a decade on devices being deployed to customers...
https://www.viprinet.com/en/support/downloads#viprinuxAs of now, just running build.sh does build a working 1440kB floppy image that boots.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/scripts/build.shTho there are still some issues I'm confident this will get some releaseable alpha version this year if not the first half of it...
https://github.com/orgs/OS-1337/projects/1Contributions to #OS1337 are welcome as well as feedback: Tho be mindful this is pre-alpha software so it may have a lot of rough and sharp edges that can hurt.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issuesIf one can test on physical hardware with ISA and/or PC/104 bus that would really help.
Ideally use something like a Gotek #SFR1M44 test with if your System.UEFI doesn't suppirt USB & floppy emulation via.image file.
https://www.gotekemulator.com/P_view.asp?pid=57
(Doesn't require #Flash Floppy tho it's recommended!
https://github.com/keirf/flashfloppyAs of now, OS/1337 does boot, but has a lot of issues...
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@foone this is why we'd always use release versions for OS/1337, because choosing some random #git snapshot that has to be manually rolled back is just assholeism and doesn't work when it comes to reproduceable builds.
Kinda reminds me of @landley 's retrospective on how the litigations on behalf of #BusyBox resulted in 0 lines of useable code for the project...
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@foone this is why we'd always use release versions for OS/1337, because choosing some random #git snapshot that has to be maually rolled back is just assholeism and doesn't work when it comes reproduceable builds.
Kinda reminds me of @landley 's retrospective on how the litigations on behalf of #BusyBox resulted in 0 lines of useable code for the project...
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For everyone wanting to test out OS/1337 there's good news:
You can just clone the #git repo or pull it as #zip:
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337and then just run ./scripts/build.sh
and within a few mins it'll spit out a bootable #1440kB image in /build/0.CORE/ to put on a 3,5" FDD or run in a VM [may it be #QEMU or #VirtualBox]...
Thanks to @SweetAIBelle for the generous contributions!
#OS1337 #Linux #Development #Embedded #EmbeddedLinux #CLI #TUI #minimalist #OS #FLOSS #OSS #FOSS
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For everyone wanting to test out OS/1337 there's good news:
You can just clone the #git repo or pull it as #zip:
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337and then just run ./scripts/build.sh
and within a few mins it'll spit out a bootable #1440kB image in /build/0.CORE/ to put on a 3,5" FDD or run in a VM [may it be #QEMU or #VirtualBox]...
Thanks to @SweetAIBelle for the generous contributions!
#OS1337 #Linux #Development #Embedded #EmbeddedLinux #CLI #TUI #minimalist #OS #FLOSS #OSS #FOSS
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For everyone wanting to test out OS/1337 there's good news:
You can just clone the #git repo or pull it as #zip:
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337and then just run ./scripts/build.sh
and within a few mins it'll spit out a bootable #1440kB image in /build/0.CORE/ to put on a 3,5" FDD or run in a VM [may it be #QEMU or #VirtualBox]...
Thanks to @SweetAIBelle for the generous contributions!
#OS1337 #Linux #Development #Embedded #EmbeddedLinux #CLI #TUI #minimalist #OS #FLOSS #OSS #FOSS
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For everyone wanting to test out OS/1337 there's good news:
You can just clone the #git repo or pull it as #zip:
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337and then just run ./scripts/build.sh
and within a few mins it'll spit out a bootable #1440kB image in /build/0.CORE/ to put on a 3,5" FDD or run in a VM [may it be #QEMU or #VirtualBox]...
Thanks to @SweetAIBelle for the generous contributions!
#OS1337 #Linux #Development #Embedded #EmbeddedLinux #CLI #TUI #minimalist #OS #FLOSS #OSS #FOSS
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Yes, OS/1337 is still in active development...
It just takes time when the maintainer has more pressing obligations to fulfill...
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Yes, OS/1337 is still in active development...
It just takes time when the maintainer has more pressing obligations to fulfill...
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@torproject @fdroidorg @tails @Raspberry_Pi
But I guess a #arm5v11 or #ARM64 port of #Tails that boots on #RaspberryPi and compatible #SBCs would be a good start.I'd even forego a fancy #GUI in exchange for a #TUI / #CLI like I do work towards in #OS1337...
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@hspmauli @meerschweinchen83
Bei einem System das nur 80*25 Zeichen Text ausgibt sollte dem aber so sein...Ich wünschte ich hätte Budget um jemensch für entsprechendes #AccessibilityTesting von #OS1337 zu bezahlen, weil das schließlich auch #Arbyte ist die nicht einfach ist...
In der Theorie sollte es gut funktionieren aber ich konnte es bisher noch nicht verifizieren.
Da aber eine serielle Konsole unterstützt wird sollten allerdings theoretisch alle Ein- und Ausgaben implementierbar sein.
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I do want to get rid of #syslinux because it's like 200kB of #Perl that make it harder to make OS/1337 fit a #1440kB FDD.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issues/10Luckily @landley already pointed out the solution to me:
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issues/10#issuecomment-1868276691So all I need is get rid of my headaches and some time to make the #MinimalLinuxBootloader go brr!
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I do want to get rid of #syslinux because it's like 200kB of #Perl that make it harder to make OS/1337 fit a #1440kB FDD.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issues/10Luckily @landley already pointed out the solution to me:
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issues/10#issuecomment-1868276691So all I need is get rid of my headaches and some time to make the #MinimalLinuxBootloader go brr!
https://github.com/wikkyk/mlb -
I do want to get rid of #syslinux because it's like 200kB of #Perl that make it harder to make OS/1337 fit a #1440kB FDD.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issues/10Luckily @landley already pointed out the solution to me:
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issues/10#issuecomment-1868276691So all I need is get rid of my headaches and some time to make the #MinimalLinuxBootloader go brr!
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@cstross some #TechIlliterate even recommended this shit to me instead if a #Laptop when I was in school.
I told them unless it comes with the same #TTS voice as #StevenHawking has I don't want them to ever be allowed to make any technical decision or suggestion in their life!
Those things are like #TexasInstruments #calculators: an absolute #ripoff given even the shittiest #Netbook with the abundant #Intel #Z3735F #SoC running #OS1337 is more versatile.
And I literally just started that distro. -
Wanna see a specific tool / package in OS/1337?
Then please feel free to suggest one to us!
https://github.com/OS-1337/pkgs/blob/main/docs/WISHLIST.tsv -
@rory So think of #OS1337 like a new attempt at #tomsrtbt in terms of simplicity...
https://infosec.exchange/@rory/111630432435153899 -
@polpo tho right now my "can of worms" is a distro so simple "PC-Speaker" is all it can do for the foreseeable future...
OS/1337
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@rory Since then @SweetAIBelle and I have worked on OS/1337 and whilst we have some booting prereleases, I want to iron it out into something that works and that is easily extensible and "build from source yourself"...
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337
https://github.com/orgs/OS-1337/projects/1/views/1Tho #OS1337 is not to be confused with @landley 's reference implementation of a #toybox + #musl / #Linux distro that is #mkroot, which is close to but not identical to the foundation of #Android, but exceeds my space requirements.
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@rory Well, for #OS1337 I took inspiration from @w84death 's #Floppinux and took his #documentation and went full "chimp banging rocks together" on it, but swapping #BusyBox for @landley 's #toybox since I prefer #bash over #ash and wanted something really basic that would do more than cat text files but provide i.e. a portable #SSH #client on a FDD.
Something that could serve as a foundation or rather plain "slate for my other projects in lieu of a THICC distro that is not practically auditable -
And yes, #ISA also includes PC/104 (and I've also compiled support for that in as well) so I'd love to see people try this with anything they got at hand.
I wished I had @rasteri 's #WeeCee to test OS/1337 on....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJEp4ZUG7BI