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The #OS1337 [website](https://os1337.com) has been updated.
- We moved from #UbuntuMono to #B612Mono because the #B612 font family is licensed under SIL OFL and #Ubuntu's fonts have their own licenses.
- Also B612 is a *superior font* given that #Airbus got it designed, tested, and certified for *Civil Aviation Use*, which means it got extensive testing under harsh conditions.
Aesthetically, it's not much different!
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The #OS1337 [website](https://os1337.com) has been updated.
- We moved from #UbuntuMono to #B612Mono because the #B612 font family is licensed under SIL OFL and #Ubuntu's fonts have their own licenses.
- Also B612 is a *superior font* given that #Airbus got it designed, tested, and certified for *Civil Aviation Use*, which means it got extensive testing under harsh conditions.
Aesthetically, it's not much different!
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The #OS1337 [website](https://os1337.com) has been updated.
- We moved from #UbuntuMono to #B612Mono because the #B612 font family is licensed under SIL OFL and #Ubuntu's fonts have their own licenses.
- Also B612 is a *superior font* given that #Airbus got it designed, tested, and certified for *Civil Aviation Use*, which means it got extensive testing under harsh conditions.
Aesthetically, it's not much different!
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The #OS1337 [website](https://os1337.com) has been updated.
- We moved from #UbuntuMono to #B612Mono because the #B612 font family is licensed under SIL OFL and #Ubuntu's fonts have their own licenses.
- Also B612 is a *superior font* given that #Airbus got it designed, tested, and certified for *Civil Aviation Use*, which means it got extensive testing under harsh conditions.
Aesthetically, it's not much different!
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@jerry
OFC that doesn't apply to the OS/1337 project since as of now there is no "stable" there... -
@jerry
OFC that doesn't apply to the OS/1337 project since as of now there is no "stable" there... -
@jerry
OFC that doesn't apply to the OS/1337 project since as of now there is no "stable" there... -
@sjmulder @howtophil yeah.
Even @w84death 's #Floppinux will need - like OS/1337 - at least 16 MB of RAM...
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@sjmulder @howtophil yeah.
Even @w84death 's #Floppinux will need - like OS/1337 - at least 16 MB of RAM...
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@sjmulder @howtophil yeah.
Even @w84death 's #Floppinux will need - like OS/1337 - at least 16 MB of RAM...
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@Yuki not that I want to discourage anyone, but it would be frankly dishonest if I didn't clarify the current state OS/1337 is in.
OFC I want it to get there...
Just don't expect this to be a smooth ride as of now.
https://infosec.space/@OS1337/111852589368445456 -
@Yuki not that I want to discourage anyone, but it would be frankly dishonest if I didn't clarify the current state OS/1337 is in.
OFC I want it to get there...
Just don't expect this to be a smooth ride as of now.
https://infosec.space/@OS1337/111852589368445456 -
@Yuki not that I want to discourage anyone, but it would be frankly dishonest if I didn't clarify the current state OS/1337 is in.
OFC I want it to get there...
Just don't expect this to be a smooth ride as of now.
https://infosec.space/@OS1337/111852589368445456 -
@Yuki not that I want to discourage anyone, but it would be frankly dishonest if I didn't clarify the current state OS/1337 is in.
OFC I want it to get there...
Just don't expect this to be a smooth ride as of now.
https://infosec.space/@OS1337/111852589368445456 -
@sjmulder @landley sadly a lot of #TechIlliterates seem to accept the #Enshittification of #tech because they don't know better and rather believe marketing lies than ask #InconvenientTruth|s.
The fact that a lot of #Apps are so outrageous #Bloatware isn't a law of nature but a result of #WhatYouAllowIsWhatWillContinue applied to the masses...
There is no reason for a website (w/o images and other multimedia content OFC) to be bigger than OS/1337 and taking longer to load than #OS1337 needs to boot on anything that isn't a severely choked #Iridium satellite internet connection...
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@sjmulder @landley sadly a lot of #TechIlliterates seem to accept the #Enshittification of #tech because they don't know better and rather believe marketing lies than ask #InconvenientTruth|s.
The fact that a lot of #Apps are so outrageous #Bloatware isn't a law of nature but a result of #WhatYouAllowIsWhatWillContinue applied to the masses...
There is no reason for a website (w/o images and other multimedia content OFC) to be bigger than OS/1337 and taking longer to load than #OS1337 needs to boot on anything that isn't a severely choked #Iridium satellite internet connection...
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@polyote @landley #Lua is definitely an upgrade in some cases tho.
Like #neovim using it instead of #VimScript...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4OyfL5o7DUGranted I use #nano and have to get used to #kilo for #OS1337 but still...
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@polyote @landley #Lua is definitely an upgrade in some cases tho.
Like #neovim using it instead of #VimScript...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4OyfL5o7DUGranted I use #nano and have to get used to #kilo for #OS1337 but still...
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@polyote @landley #Lua is definitely an upgrade in some cases tho.
Like #neovim using it instead of #VimScript...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4OyfL5o7DUGranted I use #nano and have to get used to #kilo for #OS1337 but still...
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@polyote @landley #Lua is definitely an upgrade in some cases tho.
Like #neovim using it instead of #VimScript...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4OyfL5o7DUGranted I use #nano and have to get used to #kilo for #OS1337 but still...
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@DavittoKun @landley Tho I'd rather prefer something like my trusty #P11Z or a #NUCbook or a @frameworkcomputer because having the option to go with a #GUI desktop like @tails / @tails_live / #Tails is nice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7QSadly noone made something similar that comes in the form factor of my #X230Tablet or smaller with like fully upgradeable RAM & SSD as well as toolfree swappable batteries.
Even the #Framework seems to be a regression in that part...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ_8_880S60But yeah, I could just put #OS1337 on like a USB flashdrive and boot that or if I'm extra lazy use something like #Ventoy so I don't need to reflash stuff but can just drag & drop any image onto.
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@DavittoKun @landley Tho I'd rather prefer something like my trusty #P11Z or a #NUCbook or a @frameworkcomputer because having the option to go with a #GUI desktop like @tails / @tails_live / #Tails is nice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7QSadly noone made something similar that comes in the form factor of my #X230Tablet or smaller with like fully upgradeable RAM & SSD as well as toolfree swappable batteries.
Even the #Framework seems to be a regression in that part...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ_8_880S60But yeah, I could just put #OS1337 on like a USB flashdrive and boot that or if I'm extra lazy use something like #Ventoy so I don't need to reflash stuff but can just drag & drop any image onto.
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@DavittoKun @landley Tho I'd rather prefer something like my trusty #P11Z or a #NUCbook or a @frameworkcomputer because having the option to go with a #GUI desktop like @tails / @tails_live / #Tails is nice...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbdt2vvF7QAnd sadly noone made something similar that comes in the form factor of my #X230Tablet or smaller with like fully upgradeable RAM & SSD as well as toolfree swappable batteries.
Even the #Framework seems to be a regression in that part...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ_8_880S60But yeah, I could just put #OS1337 on like a USB flashdrive and boot that or if I'm extra lazy use something like #Ventoy so I don't need to reflash stuff but can just drag & drop any image onto.
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@landley @DavittoKun *nodds in agreement*
I don't expect anyone maintaining, designing or building #CriticalInfrastructure to ever reach out to me or even use OS/1337, but if those developing i.e. medical IT take a look at this and decide to use a clean and minimalist #Linux, #FreeBSD, #OpenBSD or even #illumos - based distro with #toybox or another compact #Userland instead of some botched "embedded" Version of Windows, then already that's the kind of change I want to see...
I mean it would be cool if they used and contributed to #OS1337 but if I wanted to force them then I should've made some commercial distro akin to #WindRiverLinux or #VxWorks instead, and I don't...
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@landley @DavittoKun *nodds in agreement*
I don't expect anyone maintaining, designing or building #CriticalInfrastructure to ever reach out to me or even use OS/1337, but if those developing i.e. medical IT take a look at this and decide to use a clean and minimalist #Linux, #FreeBSD, #OpenBSD or even #illumos - based distro with #toybox or another compact #Userland instead of some botched "embedded" Version of Windows, then already that's the kind of change I want to see...
I mean it would be cool if they used and contributed to #OS1337 but if I wanted to force them then I should've made some commercial distro akin to #WindRiverLinux or #VxWorks instead, and I don't...
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@landley @DavittoKun *nodds in agreement*
I don't expect anyone maintaining, designing or building #CriticalInfrastructure to ever reach out to me or even use OS/1337, but if those developing i.e. medical IT take a look at this and decide to use a clean and minimalist #Linux, #FreeBSD, #OpenBSD or even #illumos - based distro with #toybox or another compact #Userland instead of some botched "embedded" Version of Windows, then already that's the kind of change I want to see...
I mean it would be cool if they used and contributed to #OS1337 but if I wanted to force them then I should've made some commercial distro akin to #WindRiverLinux or #VxWorks instead, and I don't...
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@DavittoKun @landley Granted, @Raspberry_Pi 's goals are different than mine and those goals are valid too.
You can't have #TechLiteracy by the masses if they never get #tech they can tinker and learn with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Dpz35HLOI#RaspberryPi basically dominate the #ARM & #ARM64-based SBC market because every competitior just solders some silicon on a board and thows it on the wall with neither good #Documentation nor #Support, letting customers to "fuck around and find out" instead, which is exciting for a few but a complete disregard to the value of time of the buyers for everyone who needs to make it go brrr.
There's a reason the #BananaPi0M2 was never scalped, because Software makes OSes and OSes make Hardware!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStMWhereas the #Pi0 / #Pi0W & #Pi0W2 - whilst being proprietary in nature, are easy to integrate and develop for with free, excellent documentation and a vendor that actually gives a shit!
Thus it would be stupid *NOT* to target their boards woth OS/1337!
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/docu/ideas/architectures.tsvSorry if I seem a bit nasty-worded...
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@DavittoKun @landley Granted, @Raspberry_Pi 's goals are different than mine and those goals are valid too.
You can't have #TechLiteracy by the masses if they never get #tech they can tinker with and learn with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Dpz35HLOI#RaspberryPi basically dominate the #ARM & #ARM64-based SBC market because every competitior just solders some silicon on a board and thows it on the wall with neither good #Documentation nor #Support, letting customers to "fuck around and find out" instead, which is exciting for a few but a complete disregard to the value of time of the buyers for everyone who needs to make it go brrr.
There's a reason the #BananaPi0M2 was never scalped, because Software makes OSes and OSes make Hardware!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStMWhereas the #Pi0 / #Pi0W & #Pi0W2 - whilst being proprietary in nature, are easy to integrate and develop for with free, excellent documentation and a vendor that actually gives a shit!
Thus it would be stupid *NOT* to target their boards woth OS/1337!
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/docu/ideas/architectures.tsvSorry if I seem a bit nasty-worded...
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@DavittoKun @landley Granted, @Raspberry_Pi 's goals are different than mine and those goals are valid too.
You can't have #TechLiteracy by the masses if they never get #tech they can tinker with and learn with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Dpz35HLOI#RaspberryPi basically dominate the #ARM & #ARM64-based SBC market because every competitior just solders some silicon on a board and thows it on the wall with neither good #Documentation nor #Support, letting customers to "fuck around and find out" instead, which is exciting for a few but a complete disregard to the value of time of the buyers for everyone who needs to make it go brrr.
There's a reason the #BananaPi0M2 was never scalped, because Software makes OSes and OSes make Hardware!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51OMXTElStMWhereas the #Pi0 / #Pi0W & #Pi0W2 - whilst being proprietary in nature, are easy to integrate and develop for with free, excellent documentation and a vendor that actually gives a shit!
Thus it would be stupid *NOT* to target their boards woth OS/1337!
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/docu/ideas/architectures.tsvSorry if I seem a bit nasty-worded...
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@geraldew @RTP I think #Linux being #GPLv2 is good.
Would a lot of people prefer it to be #BSD?
Yes, myself included.Are some neckbeards angry it's #GPLv2only and not #GPLv3 or #AGPLv3?
Yes, but I don't think they matter beyond needing to quarantine them for their toxicity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2SKenHRhMgFact is: @linux is a good project and solid product as well, and @torvalds managed to get both businesses and individuals behind it, resulting in a very versatile common denominator of kernel.
That's why I chose if for #OS1337...
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@geraldew @RTP I think #Linux being #GPLv2 is good.
Would a lot of people prefer it to be #BSD?
Yes, myself included.Are some neckbeards angry it's #GPLv2only and not #GPLv3 or #AGPLv3?
Yes, but I don't think they matter beyond needing to quarantine them for their toxicity.Fact is: @linux is a good project and solid product as well, and @torvalds managed to get both businesses and individuals behind it, resulting in a very versatile common denominator of kernel.
That's why I chose if for #OS1337...
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@geraldew @RTP I think #Linux being #GPLv2 is good.
Would a lot of people prefer it to be #BSD?
Yes, myself included.Are some neckbeards angry it's #GPLv2only and not #GPLv3 or #AGPLv3?
Yes, but I don't think they matter beyond needing to quarantine them for their toxicity.Fact is: @linux is a good project and solid product as well, and @torvalds managed to get both businesses and individuals behind it, resulting in a very versatile common denominator of kernel.
That's why I chose if for #OS1337...
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@geraldew @RTP I think #Linux being #GPLv2 is good.
Would a lot of people prefer it to be #BSD?
Yes, myself included.Are some neckbeards angry it's #GPLv2only and not #GPLv3 or #AGPLv3?
Yes, but I don't think they matter beyond needing to quarantine them for their toxicity.Fact is: @linux is a good project and solid product as well, and @torvalds managed to get both businesses and individuals behind it, resulting in a very versatile common denominator of kernel.
That's why I chose if for #OS1337...
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Aside from "rebuilding under itself" which is on the roadmap, OS/1337 is close to #mkroot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkJkyMuBm3g&t=11m50s (video via @linuxfoundation feat. @landley )Certainly not a drop-in replacement, but that's not the primary goal of it either.
It would be nice, but it's not a strict necessity as of now...It's also not as cringe as using a botched Debian 8.2 shoved though OpenADK and left to marinade or rather rot for almost a decade on devices being deployed to customers...
https://www.viprinet.com/en/support/downloads#viprinuxAs of now, just running build.sh does build a working 1440kB floppy image that boots.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/scripts/build.shTho there are still some issues I'm confident this will get some releaseable alpha version this year if not the first half of it...
https://github.com/orgs/OS-1337/projects/1Contributions to #OS1337 are welcome as well as feedback: Tho be mindful this is pre-alpha software so it may have a lot of rough and sharp edges that can hurt.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issuesIf one can test on physical hardware with ISA and/or PC/104 bus that would really help.
Ideally use something like a Gotek #SFR1M44 test with if your System's #BIOS doesn't support USB-#Floppy emulation via an image file like some #Vortex86-based SBCs.
https://www.gotekemulator.com/P_view.asp?pid=57
(Doesn't require #Flash Floppy tho it's recommended!
https://github.com/keirf/flashfloppy)As of now, OS/1337 does boot, but has a lot of issues...
But we're confident to get them addressed.
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Aside from "rebuilding under itself" which is on the roadmap, OS/1337 is close to #mkroot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkJkyMuBm3g&t=11m50sCertainly not a drop-in replacement, but that's not the primary goal of it either.
It would be nice, but it's not a strict necessity as of now...But way less cringe than using a botched Debian 8.2 shoved though OpenADK and left to marinade or rather rot for almost a decade on devices being deployed to customers...
https://www.viprinet.com/en/support/downloads#viprinuxAs of now, just running build.sh does build a working 1440kB floppy image that boots.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/scripts/build.shTho there are still some issues I'm confident this will get some releaseable alpha version this year if not the first half of it...
https://github.com/orgs/OS-1337/projects/1Contributions to #OS1337 are welcome as well as feedback: Tho be mindful this is pre-alpha software so it may have a lot of rough and sharp edges that can hurt.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issuesIf one can test on physical hardware with ISA and/or PC/104 bus that would really help.
Ideally use something like a Gotek #SFR1M44 test with if your System.UEFI doesn't suppirt USB & floppy emulation via.image file.
https://www.gotekemulator.com/P_view.asp?pid=57
(Doesn't require #Flash Floppy tho it's recommended!
https://github.com/keirf/flashfloppyAs of now, OS/1337 does boot, but has a lot of issues...
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Aside from "rebuilding under itself" which is on the roadmap, OS/1337 is close to #mkroot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkJkyMuBm3g&t=11m50s (video via @linuxfoundation feat. @landley )Certainly not a drop-in replacement, but that's not the primary goal of it either.
It would be nice, but it's not a strict necessity as of now...It's also not as cringe as using a botched Debian 8.2 shoved though OpenADK and left to marinade or rather rot for almost a decade on devices being deployed to customers...
https://www.viprinet.com/en/support/downloads#viprinuxAs of now, just running build.sh does build a working 1440kB floppy image that boots.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/scripts/build.shTho there are still some issues I'm confident this will get some releaseable alpha version this year if not the first half of it...
https://github.com/orgs/OS-1337/projects/1Contributions to #OS1337 are welcome as well as feedback: Tho be mindful this is pre-alpha software so it may have a lot of rough and sharp edges that can hurt.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issuesIf one can test on physical hardware with ISA and/or PC/104 bus that would really help.
Ideally use something like a Gotek #SFR1M44 test with if your System's #BIOS doesn't support USB-#Floppy emulation via an image file like some #Vortex86-based SBCs.
https://www.gotekemulator.com/P_view.asp?pid=57
(Doesn't require #Flash Floppy tho it's recommended!
https://github.com/keirf/flashfloppy)As of now, OS/1337 does boot, but has a lot of issues...
But we're confident to get them addressed.
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Aside from "rebuilding under itself" which is on the roadmap, OS/1337 is close to #mkroot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkJkyMuBm3g&t=11m50sCertainly not a drop-in replacement, but that's not the primary goal of it either.
It would be nice, but it's not a strict necessity as of now...But way less cringe than using a botched Debian 8.2 shoved though OpenADK and left to marinade or rather rot for almost a decade on devices being deployed to customers...
https://www.viprinet.com/en/support/downloads#viprinuxAs of now, just running build.sh does build a working 1440kB floppy image that boots.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/main/scripts/build.shTho there are still some issues I'm confident this will get some releaseable alpha version this year if not the first half of it...
https://github.com/orgs/OS-1337/projects/1Contributions to #OS1337 are welcome as well as feedback: Tho be mindful this is pre-alpha software so it may have a lot of rough and sharp edges that can hurt.
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/issuesIf one can test on physical hardware with ISA and/or PC/104 bus that would really help.
Ideally use something like a Gotek #SFR1M44 test with if your System.UEFI doesn't suppirt USB & floppy emulation via.image file.
https://www.gotekemulator.com/P_view.asp?pid=57
(Doesn't require #Flash Floppy tho it's recommended!
https://github.com/keirf/flashfloppyAs of now, OS/1337 does boot, but has a lot of issues...
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@foone this is why we'd always use release versions for OS/1337, because choosing some random #git snapshot that has to be manually rolled back is just assholeism and doesn't work when it comes to reproduceable builds.
Kinda reminds me of @landley 's retrospective on how the litigations on behalf of #BusyBox resulted in 0 lines of useable code for the project...
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@foone this is why we'd always use release versions for OS/1337, because choosing some random #git snapshot that has to be manually rolled back is just assholeism and doesn't work when it comes to reproduceable builds.
Kinda reminds me of @landley 's retrospective on how the litigations on behalf of #BusyBox resulted in 0 lines of useable code for the project...
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@foone this is why we'd always use release versions for OS/1337, because choosing some random #git snapshot that has to be maually rolled back is just assholeism and doesn't work when it comes reproduceable builds.
Kinda reminds me of @landley 's retrospective on how the litigations on behalf of #BusyBox resulted in 0 lines of useable code for the project...
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For everyone wanting to test out OS/1337 there's good news:
You can just clone the #git repo or pull it as #zip:
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337and then just run ./scripts/build.sh
and within a few mins it'll spit out a bootable #1440kB image in /build/0.CORE/ to put on a 3,5" FDD or run in a VM [may it be #QEMU or #VirtualBox]...
Thanks to @SweetAIBelle for the generous contributions!
#OS1337 #Linux #Development #Embedded #EmbeddedLinux #CLI #TUI #minimalist #OS #FLOSS #OSS #FOSS
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For everyone wanting to test out OS/1337 there's good news:
You can just clone the #git repo or pull it as #zip:
https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337and then just run ./scripts/build.sh
and within a few mins it'll spit out a bootable #1440kB image in /build/0.CORE/ to put on a 3,5" FDD or run in a VM [may it be #QEMU or #VirtualBox]...
Thanks to @SweetAIBelle for the generous contributions!
#OS1337 #Linux #Development #Embedded #EmbeddedLinux #CLI #TUI #minimalist #OS #FLOSS #OSS #FOSS