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  1. when the following happens:
    1. dude A founds band B with singer C. their music is pretty good, and gets better over time.
    2. C leaves B, seemingly because her creativity is being stifled. Her solo work is more interesting and creative than her music with B.
    3. B hires new singer D. Their music with D is ok, but not as good as it was with C.
    4. D also leaves B, and her new solo stuff is better than her work with B.

    maybe the problem is A?

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